Transhumanists: AI WILL TAKE ALL JOBS AND LEAD TO A JOBLESS APOCALYPSE
I'm sick of the transhumanist religion. Any debunks to transhumanists? ChatGPT-like AIs are a highly useful multi-functional tool but it doesn't feel like they will make traditional employment obsolete. I feel like the future will kinda be like Star Wars, where droids exist but jobs do too.
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People who think AI will somehow take all jobs are just morons who unironically fell for the "fully automated luxury gay space communism" meme. AI will either turn out to be a nothingburger or be forced out of existence by popular revolt - it literally only stands to benefit multi-billionaire corporation owners who can save money on staff. Braindead morons who talk about shit like "democratizing art" will be hung.
The only people who would actually accept AI-produced media and entertainment are the same sort of drooling morons who already do shit like play unity asset-flip open-world-survival-crafting shit instead of real games or watch romcoms on the Hallmark channel instead of proper theater releases. The average consumer only tolerates soulless slop to a certain degree, you can get away with marvel capeshit but if you start dipping much lower than that you lose people
As AI becomes capable of creating convincing music, it raises the question: how can we discern if a composition is genuinely the work of a musician, or if it was AI-assisted? Will accolades continue to be awarded to those compositions that are crafted solely by human creativity? Trust is crucial in appreciating art. Once it's lost, the impact of the work diminishes significantly.
>you can get away with marvel capeshit but if you start dipping much lower than that you lose people
oh we have yet to see anything my friend
>it literally only stands to benefit multi-billionaire corporation owners
Yeah, which is why you will be obsolete soon
Oh yeah, and don't even kid yourself into thinking there will be a revolution, we've been brainwashed for decades and there will be no glorious revolution
>proper theater releases
Old af detected. Those darn talkies are just a fad grampa.
The incel seethe is palpable through my computer screen.
The incel hates and fears what he cannot understand, whether that be interacting with females or understanding basic science. I'm pretty surre the scientists and enigneers working on this stuff at Google and OpenAI have a better understanding of artificial intelligence and it's' capabgilities than some anti-tech luddite schizo shitposting on bot about transhumanism and other STEM topics that they're too stupid to understand.
Maybe instead of getting all worked up and paranoid about AI and muh transhumanism, you should leave your moms basement and find something better to do that arguing with random people on the internet about AI.
It’s a hype machine with unprotected growth therefore the grifters swarm and pump it this includes tesla, google, microsoft. Grifting is extremely popular in a world of ponzi finance
>people unironically worship chatbots nowadays and think they're super-intelligence beings and not just a glorified auto-complete
>implying he himself is something more than a meat chatbot
>implying 99.98% of human work (including sciense) isn't glorified statistics
In this post you are essentially saying that you are equivalent to a chatbot. the person you're responding to will deny that he is equivalent to a chatbot, but you will say that you are. You'll even say it aggressively and be angry when it's denied.
>Any debunks to transhumanists?
Reality.
>ChatGPT-like AIs are a highly useful multi-functional tool but it doesn't feel like they will make traditional employment obsolete.
Well, I guess the question is whether there will be any problems humans can continue to solve better (or at least more cheaply) than AI. Eventually, the answer could very well become no
>ChatGPT-like AIs are a highly useful multi-functional tool but it doesn't feel like they will make traditional employment obsolete
The problem is that 1 person will do the job for which 3 were needed before. The less people you need to do the job, the lower the demand for workers and the lower the price of them.
The utility of things is not the only component of its price. Bargain power makes a huge part of it.
If something increass productivity but lowers you bargain power it actually worsens your condition. Thats how it was at the beginning of industrial revolution and how its going to be now.
unironically explain to me why that is a problem. Why should I care?
>1 person will do the job for which 3 were needed before
More like 20. This isn't like the industrialization of farming where every agriculture job taken by tractors and fertilizer was replaced by 2 more designing, building, and maintaining tractors. AI has the potential to replace entire teams of dozens of people with one guy typing in sentences all day. Gains in AI software and coding jobs won't be nearly enough to actually re-saturate the market.
Because the more disposable you are to the billionaire class the more they can treat you like shit, moron. The only reason the average person has access to any luxuries is because labor is valuable and the elites know they can't get you to work for them unless you're satisfied to a certain degree. If AI starts taking technical and creative jobs you're not worth jack-shit to them anymore, they'll have you digging ditches and flipping burgers for $2 an hour just so you can afford to live in a shantytown slum and eat a loaf of bread every couple days.
how fricking dare you bring materialism and reality into BOT, this is a haven for delusional morons who can hardly perform the most fundamental calculus derivations
I actually think AI is going to lead to financial collapse.
We already have a problem with entry level vs experienced jobs and this will just exasperate the problem. Entry level jobs will just cease to be a thing and only those with familial connections will be able to maintain themselves early in their career (we can see this already in stock brokering which had perfectly viable entry level positions from the late 1800s to the 1980s until it was democratized). AI will cause this across the white collar landscape. People graduate college right now without the required skills for work and with the allergic reaction the university systems are having to AI, it will just get worse.
You only need one expert to guide AI and correct the hallucinations, coding, etc. into something actually true and an expert plus an AI beats an expert and a team of support. Tech writing, which is actually very good experience for engineers and scientists as it exposes them to what is going on in a field/project without costing anything but their time, is going to completely disappear as an expert provides a few high level bullet points, generates a paper with AI, adds further detail, then has the AI clean it all up and put it in whatever inane format is necessary for the day.
This will all lead to a collapse as experts become a small minority of humans with every organization clamoring for them. No one will be willing to sacrifice for their fields or the fields that support their organizations since if they do waste time training up those with no experience, they'll just instantly get poached. It's going to cause a circling of the drain and financial crisis that will only be solved by government intervention and quotas on experience levels.
Freedom! No more need to work, oh thank god, we are FREE
>misinformation
This buzzword predicts penis size, and by that I mean -1 because you're a troony
AI is good at accessing informations, this has been true about computers for decades. Trust me the growth will end up being sigmoidal. Yes it replaces doctors and lawyers and thridie programmers, but those people were always fricking moronic.
I hope it destroys corporate culture and replaces all pencil pushing subhumans.
Intelligence and art based society is better. Wise and Physically Aesthetic.
The Myth of Artificial Intelligence by Erik Larson
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams
> But when all people have become useless, self-propagating systems will find no advantage in taking care of anyone. The techies themselves insist that machines will soon surpass humans in intelligence.[14] When that happens, people will be superfluous and natural selection will favor systems that eliminate them—if not abruptly, then in a series of stages so that the risk of rebellion will be minimized.
> Even though the technological world-system still needs large numbers of people for the present, there are now more superfluous humans than there have been in the past because technology has replaced people in many jobs and is making inroads even into occupations formerly thought to require human intelligence.[15] Consequently, under the pressure of economic competition, the world's dominant self-propagating systems are already allowing a certain degree of callousness to creep into their treatment of superfluous individuals. In the United States and Europe, pensions and other benefits for retired, disabled, unemployed, and other unproductive persons are being substantially reduced;[16] at least in the U. S., poverty is increasing;[17] and these facts may well indicate the general trend of the future, though there will doubtless be ups and downs.
I can tell whoever made that shitty meme (probably with the help of a bot due to their own incompetence) has no idea what they're talking about, because passing standardized tests is easier than almost all of those other examples. It's fact based answers from known information that would've been included in its training set.
"All" jobs? How will AI replace day care workers, nursing home workers, construction workers, farm workers, cops, firefighters, etc?
Maybe "some" jobs will go away. But not "all" of them.
Basically all manufacturing, farming and mining is assembly line work that is just a little different or annoyingly compound in each step that programing a traditional robot is just barely too annoying.
Consider checkout at a store. The object is rotated to find the tag, scanned, and then stored in a way that doesn't piss off the customer because you put a watermelon into a bag with eggs.
AI would ace ap calc much earlier. Math is just applying identities
If the AI is so great why does this Wikipedia page exist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_mathematics
Where is the AI when you need it? Why has the AI not solved any of those problems?
nobody has figured out the correct prompt yet
The AI is too arrogant to reveal the solutions to us mortal human beings.
>entire original Seinfeld episode in the style of Werner Herzog
Where?
>JOBLESS APOCALYPSE
In the end, decades from now, all this will settle down to taxing AI & robots, which will then pay for UBI.