It is possible that intelligence, as it exists in humans, is not computable. To think otherwise would be unscientific and much closer to a religious belief like the existence of a sky daddy who is always watching and judging everything you do.
you hate the idea of something watching and judging you because you engage in practices that you are ashamed of and want nobody to know about.
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Anonymous
this always gets me
why would an omnipotent being allow something that is against it's goals ?
also the theory of darwinist evolution doesn't actually says that the first cell wasn't engineered, it just says that we were unintended (and that nobody cares about us), which is what scares the fuck out of every religious freak (because they need to feel special)
4 months ago
Anonymous
tl;dr all religions actually care about the human, not about the god(s)
4 months ago
Anonymous
darwinist evolution is obsolete
it's all neodarwinist, composed of the discoveries of both Darwin and Mendel
who was Mendel? A Catholic Monk from the time of Darwin.
Oops, you got debunked.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Darwinism is an old idea. modern evolutionary biology is past that
a useful norm for a data set would be something like the byte count multiplied by some large constant and all of a sudden you have a curve that will perfectly fit the data and give perfect answers.
AI is a joke, the entire field is a bunch of morons twiddling knobs with stochastic gradient descent
AI is literally just that which we call "AI". Using "AI" for a 500 line C script determining the behaviour of a video game character is perfectly legitimate.
Saying a LLM is conscious is nonsensical. No one even knows what consciousness is, and only biological organisms have developed it. It is a science fiction fantasy, algorithms are algorithms. The idea of conscious machines simply fits the current transhuman agenda of the retard class.
Yes. Do you not know what a neural net actually is? It's a fit of summed and nested functions with fitted weights at every level of the nesting. It's mathematically just a nonlinear regression, and can be solved using nonlinear regressive methods, but because of its special form we are able to use very efficient numerical derivation (auto-derivatives).
It's even covered in applied statistics books (mainly as cliff notes because it wasn't popular) in the 2000s.
What ISNT applied statistics is going through and manually programming AI. Such as a massive if/then statements or state machines (which are what is often used in videogames because it tends to be satisfying enough).
The concept of “artificial intelligence” is aspirational (like ‘warp drive’) and does not describe any existing or likely to exist computational system.
a neural signal in our head is passed according to the all-or-none law, with a threshold that decides between these states
isn't that just applied statistics ?
But the AI doesn't actually think about anything. It just scans the field for every single turn it has and chooses the most probable move to win. Humans can actually think ahead and devise a strategy
Tell me the statistical theory behind transformers then. Most neural nets have little meaningful statistical interpretations apart from it outputs logits.
its just a chat bot.
dont see what all the hubbub is about.
humans have been 100% fooled by chatbots for at least the last 15 years.
to say CHAT-gpt is an ai is a gross misunderstanding of the tools created and made available.
pretty sad the to see the whole world caught up in a frenzy of misinformation.
hollywood and anime poisons a bunch of loser nerds' brains with ideas about friendly humanoid robots and now the friendless losers are convinced they're going to be able to buy a friend at the apple store in in two weeks. that idea appeals to them because its way easier and less painful than getting over their repulsive personality disorders would be
>intelligence is nothing special and can be reduced down to physical interactions >technology tiptoes into artificial intelligence >my consciousness is special and can't be reduced down to physical interactions
This is what all these AI cope threads boils down into.
>Human decision making and resulting behaviour follow heuristics >Unfortunately that's what the empirical data continues to demonstrate. >Therefore humans are AI / applied statistics
Amazing argument. Yes autists that's sarcasm.
>noo computer can't think
>because... uhhh they just can't, okay??
Why are you posting instead of talking to your thinking computer?
because AGI has not been invented yet
but it's not in principle impossible
>because AGI has not been invented yet
So you agree then, computers can't think
It is possible that intelligence, as it exists in humans, is not computable. To think otherwise would be unscientific and much closer to a religious belief like the existence of a sky daddy who is always watching and judging everything you do.
you hate the idea of something watching and judging you because you engage in practices that you are ashamed of and want nobody to know about.
this always gets me
why would an omnipotent being allow something that is against it's goals ?
also the theory of darwinist evolution doesn't actually says that the first cell wasn't engineered, it just says that we were unintended (and that nobody cares about us), which is what scares the fuck out of every religious freak (because they need to feel special)
tl;dr all religions actually care about the human, not about the god(s)
darwinist evolution is obsolete
it's all neodarwinist, composed of the discoveries of both Darwin and Mendel
who was Mendel? A Catholic Monk from the time of Darwin.
Oops, you got debunked.
Darwinism is an old idea. modern evolutionary biology is past that
You can fit a deterministic function with a neural network too.
You an fit any function with enough parameters. What is your point?
> You an fit
LMAO
give me a data set and i will fit a function with a ([math]||data||[/math] + trillion parameters) to the data perfectly
a useful norm for a data set would be something like the byte count multiplied by some large constant and all of a sudden you have a curve that will perfectly fit the data and give perfect answers.
AI is a joke, the entire field is a bunch of morons twiddling knobs with stochastic gradient descent
heres the data: https://warosu.org/sci/
now make me a version of BOT free of gays, retards and schoolchildren (AKA retarded gays)
>https://warosu.org/sci/
text search, very cool
Yes, that's what "AI" is.
I agree with the sentiment, but "applied statistics" is also too broad to characterize machine learning.
>deterministic function
I'm not a ZFC head, but even the people working with different frameworks call them differently. E.g. operations.
AI actually is broader. It literally does encompass things like state machines as well as the applied statistical methods of machine learning.
Machine learning itself is just a subfield of both Applied Statistics and AI.
AI is literally just that which we call "AI". Using "AI" for a 500 line C script determining the behaviour of a video game character is perfectly legitimate.
a simulated chess game IS a chess game
simulated reasoning IS reasoning
Limited reasoning isn't consciousness though.
Consciousness is a spectrum, a gnat is conscious but not as conscious as an elephant or a human.
Likewise a neural network or LLM might be conscious on some level, just like the gnat.
>LLM might be conscious
It might be but it's a known fact that you're retarded
It's only going to keep getting worse, people are becoming more retarded as time goes on.
BOT is bots, man, the only winning movw is not to play, don't respond and sage if you do
Saying a LLM is conscious is nonsensical. No one even knows what consciousness is, and only biological organisms have developed it. It is a science fiction fantasy, algorithms are algorithms. The idea of conscious machines simply fits the current transhuman agenda of the retard class.
I don't think there's any reason not to assume gnats are p-zombies.
> simulated sex IS sex
Learn how to think, you've been drinking too much kool-aid and it's showing
>Ceci n'est pas une pipe
>simulated reasoning IS reasoning
But nobody is simulating reasoning.
not yet
A simulated physics system IS NOT the physical system
shut up yud
>AI is really just applied statistics
And science is just statistics.
>And science is just statistics.
is it tho
TOTAL SHELLFISH DEATH
BILLIONS - NO - TRILLIONS MUST DIE!
Biology is just applied chemistry
It is applied ((quantum)) chemistry
Chemistry is just quantum electrodynamics.
That's what I said already
Biology has strong elements of mechanics & thermodynamics involved as well. Ppl in chemistry should learn thermodynamics, but they don't
chemistry just follows physical laws
physical laws are all based on math
math exists only in your head
therefore biology is imaginary
Regression, SVMs, bayesian classifiers, etc. sure, but can you really say a neural net is stats based?
Yes. Do you not know what a neural net actually is? It's a fit of summed and nested functions with fitted weights at every level of the nesting. It's mathematically just a nonlinear regression, and can be solved using nonlinear regressive methods, but because of its special form we are able to use very efficient numerical derivation (auto-derivatives).
It's even covered in applied statistics books (mainly as cliff notes because it wasn't popular) in the 2000s.
What ISNT applied statistics is going through and manually programming AI. Such as a massive if/then statements or state machines (which are what is often used in videogames because it tends to be satisfying enough).
The concept of “artificial intelligence” is aspirational (like ‘warp drive’) and does not describe any existing or likely to exist computational system.
No it's just average applied math
"statistics" means data, retard
Powerful.
A.S.
Ok
kinda weak. thermo is applied statistics, so is finance. lots of stuff really
a neural signal in our head is passed according to the all-or-none law, with a threshold that decides between these states
isn't that just applied statistics ?
Chess AI is beyond human grandmasters. To call it “applied statistics” is a bit of an understatement
But the AI doesn't actually think about anything. It just scans the field for every single turn it has and chooses the most probable move to win. Humans can actually think ahead and devise a strategy
It has always been stats, so what? Don't tell me you guys didn't know that...
Tell me the statistical theory behind transformers then. Most neural nets have little meaningful statistical interpretations apart from it outputs logits.
if the output is a bunch of statistics then the model is statistical, simple as
missing linear algebra and multivariable calc, but yes it's also applied statistics
obviously gradient descent or kNN models are not aware of their own processes, this post is for BOTtards
its just a chat bot.
dont see what all the hubbub is about.
humans have been 100% fooled by chatbots for at least the last 15 years.
to say CHAT-gpt is an ai is a gross misunderstanding of the tools created and made available.
pretty sad the to see the whole world caught up in a frenzy of misinformation.
Everyone of you anti-AI scum are in for a bad time.
Least schizophrenic techie.
hey samir break time is over, back to work.
Generative Statistics
hollywood and anime poisons a bunch of loser nerds' brains with ideas about friendly humanoid robots and now the friendless losers are convinced they're going to be able to buy a friend at the apple store in in two weeks. that idea appeals to them because its way easier and less painful than getting over their repulsive personality disorders would be
>buy a friend at the apple store
open source ai gf or bust
>intelligence is nothing special and can be reduced down to physical interactions
>technology tiptoes into artificial intelligence
>my consciousness is special and can't be reduced down to physical interactions
This is what all these AI cope threads boils down into.
>AI is really just applied statistics
about time they for a use for that stuff, now since it is applied id say it's engineering time
Unfortunately that's what the empirical data continues to demonstrate.
>Human decision making and resulting behaviour follow heuristics
>Unfortunately that's what the empirical data continues to demonstrate.
>Therefore humans are AI / applied statistics
Amazing argument. Yes autists that's sarcasm.
My brain is statistics?
>artificial intelligence
genuine stupidity