AI is really just applied statistics

You know it's right because computers can't think

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >noo computer can't think
    >because... uhhh they just can't, okay??

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you posting instead of talking to your thinking computer?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        because AGI has not been invented yet
        but it's not in principle impossible

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >because AGI has not been invented yet
          So you agree then, computers can't think

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is possible that intelligence, as it exists in humans, is not computable. To think otherwise would be unscientific and much closer to a religious belief like the existence of a sky daddy who is always watching and judging everything you do.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              you hate the idea of something watching and judging you because you engage in practices that you are ashamed of and want nobody to know about.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                this always gets me
                why would an omnipotent being allow something that is against it's goals ?

                also the theory of darwinist evolution doesn't actually says that the first cell wasn't engineered, it just says that we were unintended (and that nobody cares about us), which is what scares the frick out of every religious freak (because they need to feel special)

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                tl;dr all religions actually care about the human, not about the god(s)

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                darwinist evolution is obsolete
                it's all neodarwinist, composed of the discoveries of both Darwin and Mendel
                who was Mendel? A Catholic Monk from the time of Darwin.

                Oops, you got debunked.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Darwinism is an old idea. modern evolutionary biology is past that

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can fit a deterministic function with a neural network too.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You an fit any function with enough parameters. What is your point?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        > You an fit
        LMAO

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          give me a data set and i will fit a function with a ([math]||data||[/math] + trillion parameters) to the data perfectly

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            a useful norm for a data set would be something like the byte count multiplied by some large constant and all of a sudden you have a curve that will perfectly fit the data and give perfect answers.

            AI is a joke, the entire field is a bunch of morons twiddling knobs with stochastic gradient descent

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            heres the data: https://warosu.org/sci/
            now make me a version of bot free of homosexuals, morons and schoolchildren (AKA moronic homosexuals)

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >https://warosu.org/sci/
              text search, very cool

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, that's what "AI" is.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with the sentiment, but "applied statistics" is also too broad to characterize machine learning.

      >deterministic function
      I'm not a ZFC head, but even the people working with different frameworks call them differently. E.g. operations.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI actually is broader. It literally does encompass things like state machines as well as the applied statistical methods of machine learning.

    Machine learning itself is just a subfield of both Applied Statistics and AI.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI is literally just that which we call "AI". Using "AI" for a 500 line C script determining the behaviour of a video game character is perfectly legitimate.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    a simulated chess game IS a chess game
    simulated reasoning IS reasoning

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Limited reasoning isn't consciousness though.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Consciousness is a spectrum, a gnat is conscious but not as conscious as an elephant or a human.

        Likewise a neural network or LLM might be conscious on some level, just like the gnat.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >LLM might be conscious
          It might be but it's a known fact that you're moronic

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's only going to keep getting worse, people are becoming more moronic as time goes on.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              BOT is bots, man, the only winning movw is not to play, don't respond and sage if you do

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Saying a LLM is conscious is nonsensical. No one even knows what consciousness is, and only biological organisms have developed it. It is a science fiction fantasy, algorithms are algorithms. The idea of conscious machines simply fits the current transhuman agenda of the moron class.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think there's any reason not to assume gnats are p-zombies.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      > simulated sex IS sex
      Learn how to think, you've been drinking too much kool-aid and it's showing

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ceci n'est pas une pipe

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >simulated reasoning IS reasoning
      But nobody is simulating reasoning.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        not yet

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      A simulated physics system IS NOT the physical system

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      shut up yud

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI is really just applied statistics

    And science is just statistics.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >And science is just statistics.
      is it tho

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        TOTAL SHELLFISH DEATH

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          BILLIONS - NO - TRILLIONS MUST DIE!

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Biology is just applied chemistry

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is applied ((quantum)) chemistry

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Chemistry is just quantum electrodynamics.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's what I said already

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Biology has strong elements of mechanics & thermodynamics involved as well. Ppl in chemistry should learn thermodynamics, but they don't

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      chemistry just follows physical laws
      physical laws are all based on math
      math exists only in your head
      therefore biology is imaginary

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Regression, SVMs, bayesian classifiers, etc. sure, but can you really say a neural net is stats based?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Do you not know what a neural net actually is? It's a fit of summed and nested functions with fitted weights at every level of the nesting. It's mathematically just a nonlinear regression, and can be solved using nonlinear regressive methods, but because of its special form we are able to use very efficient numerical derivation (auto-derivatives).

      It's even covered in applied statistics books (mainly as cliff notes because it wasn't popular) in the 2000s.

      What ISNT applied statistics is going through and manually programming AI. Such as a massive if/then statements or state machines (which are what is often used in videogames because it tends to be satisfying enough).

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The concept of “artificial intelligence” is aspirational (like ‘warp drive’) and does not describe any existing or likely to exist computational system.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No it's just average applied math
    "statistics" means data, moron

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Powerful.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A.S.
    Ok

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    kinda weak. thermo is applied statistics, so is finance. lots of stuff really

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    a neural signal in our head is passed according to the all-or-none law, with a threshold that decides between these states
    isn't that just applied statistics ?

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chess AI is beyond human grandmasters. To call it “applied statistics” is a bit of an understatement

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      But the AI doesn't actually think about anything. It just scans the field for every single turn it has and chooses the most probable move to win. Humans can actually think ahead and devise a strategy

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has always been stats, so what? Don't tell me you guys didn't know that...

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me the statistical theory behind transformers then. Most neural nets have little meaningful statistical interpretations apart from it outputs logits.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      if the output is a bunch of statistics then the model is statistical, simple as

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    missing linear algebra and multivariable calc, but yes it's also applied statistics

    obviously gradient descent or kNN models are not aware of their own processes, this post is for BOTtards

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its just a chat bot.
    dont see what all the hubbub is about.
    humans have been 100% fooled by chatbots for at least the last 15 years.
    to say CHAT-gpt is an ai is a gross misunderstanding of the tools created and made available.
    pretty sad the to see the whole world caught up in a frenzy of misinformation.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone of you anti-AI scum are in for a bad time.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Least schizophrenic techie.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      hey samir break time is over, back to work.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Generative Statistics

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    hollywood and anime poisons a bunch of loser nerds' brains with ideas about friendly humanoid robots and now the friendless losers are convinced they're going to be able to buy a friend at the apple store in in two weeks. that idea appeals to them because its way easier and less painful than getting over their repulsive personality disorders would be

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >buy a friend at the apple store
      open source ai gf or bust

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >intelligence is nothing special and can be reduced down to physical interactions
    >technology tiptoes into artificial intelligence
    >my consciousness is special and can't be reduced down to physical interactions
    This is what all these AI cope threads boils down into.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI is really just applied statistics
    about time they for a use for that stuff, now since it is applied id say it's engineering time

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unfortunately that's what the empirical data continues to demonstrate.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Human decision making and resulting behaviour follow heuristics
      >Unfortunately that's what the empirical data continues to demonstrate.
      >Therefore humans are AI / applied statistics
      Amazing argument. Yes autists that's sarcasm.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        My brain is statistics?

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >artificial intelligence
    genuine stupidity

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