>ask stackoverflow a question >don't answer my question but steer me to a framework or niche product that abstracts away what i need to do instead
ChatGPT will answer my questions.
>ask question on stackoverflow >This was already answered, you're a fricking moron, you're asking the wrong question, DUPLICATE (unrelated question), try using obscure language with no real world use
Why would anyone want to use stack overflow? You're better off getting wrong information on reddit or youtube than actively hostile information at this fricking point.
>How do I do A? I can't do B because $reasons >lol just use these twenty different frameworks and rewrite the entire thing in a different language to do B instead
I don't understand the bad reputation has gotten.
I rarely visit it. But when I do I generally find relatively useful answers there.
But I think activity has died down a lot since ChatGPT took over. So not much new knowledge is going to accumulate there. This is what ingratitude leads to. Enjoy your AI slop.
kek I asked an algorithm question not too long ago and got piled with down votes because I didn't format basic multiplication shit using latex. And got a few passive aggressive comments. I improved my post and then they came back and said it was still shit for x y and z reasons and replaced the link i had in the post because I linked to a website that has cookies. I didn't see anything in the rules about cookies and I'm pretty sure the new link also had cookies too. So it was clearly just them being c**ts at that point.
So yeah, you bet I'm paying 20 dollars to my ai overlord instead now.
Aren't the people answering questions on stackoverflow volunteers? The main reason the site is inferior to AI is because of the misbehavior of the people 'answering' questions. It's not really the site devs fault and isn't directly replacing developers, just deleting the entire business.
> cheap money era: > - tech companies hire a legion of people to do who knows what > expensive money (high interest rates) era: > - tech companies correct their bs hiring practices by firing a bunch of people > mah A.I.
Or maybe it's because rising interest rates mean that companies actually have to have some plan for making money, and can't just bs about increasing the amount of users with made up stats anymore
>ask stackoverflow >one two attention prostitute trannies and 8 pajeets respond >ask ChatGPT >data actively filtered by barely literate Africans is used to produce a increasingly nonsensical response
Dark times ahead
>ask question on stackoverflow >nobody gives helpful answer >getting condescending replies to my question >ask chatGPT how to solve my problem >gets it solved without getting attitude from homosexual zit faced nerds on stackoverflow
if that site shuts down nothing of value would be lost
well you know, if you weren't using privacy software that prevents tracking they wouldn't have to ask every time because they'd store your choice in a cookie
This
I remember back in college I used to ask my physics question from yahoo answers (sometimes) and god I had to stop myself from typing in all caps because they were the most condescending butthole I ever knew.
Motherfricker you CHOSE to answer, why are you such an ass
I am glad chargpt here to deliver us from egotistical peabrain humans
ChatGPT will create a fully formed function with my specifications that I can use to test. It doesn't always get it right or exactly what I need, but it's a good jumping off point.
Compared to stackoverflow, where sometimes there isn't a usable function, or if they do have one, it uses way too many dependencies to be tested.
According to their linked in they have between 500-1000 employees. I'm guessing 80% of that is HR, 15% marketing, 4% chief diversity officers and 1% people actually keeping the servers running.
Good. Stack Overflow is too intimidating to post questions on. I feel like any question I may ask will get attacked because I wrote it wrong in some way, or god forbid someone already had the same/similar question several years back and I inconvenience one of the millions of strangers to type a repeat answer.
ChatGPT doesn't give you shit for asking questions, so naturally this is the superior option. Let it all burn.
Chatgpt is literally trained on stackoverflow you idiots
I just modded the sys prompt on gpt-4 to always answer like a malding stack overflow user. same experience but better, havent used stacky in almost a year
Good. Stack Overflow is too intimidating to post questions on. I feel like any question I may ask will get attacked because I wrote it wrong in some way, or god forbid someone already had the same/similar question several years back and I inconvenience one of the millions of strangers to type a repeat answer.
ChatGPT doesn't give you shit for asking questions, so naturally this is the superior option. Let it all burn.
The only thing that matters is that the median household income in 1970 was 235oz of gold. A senior SWE is very likely earning less than a 1970 truck driver in real terms. AI is a meme, technology is a force multiplier. Do not get distracted, you are generating more than ever, yet they want to pay you less than ever. Do not capitulate.
>there are people who help people do code they've been hired to write for free >there are people who do someone else's homework for free >there are people who answer people's questions for free >there are people who moderate forums for free >there are people reporting rule breaking posts for free >there are people babysitting entire subreddits and hastags for free >there are people who are expected too look at most vile child pornography and moderate it for free
most of the modern websites work on unpaid work of armchair jannies who want to "better the world" and "contribute to the community" by making rich people even richer. unionize the jannies.
There is nothing truly free in this world. Those c**ts get to boss people around and spread their garbage ideals in exchange for being a slave. They are the lowest of the low, since they have nothing better to do with their lives other than work for "free"
The price we pay for these "people" to run internet discussion and drive our culture is astronomical.
If you have to ask a question on stack overflow you're probably doing it wrong. Your exact question should already be answered at least 9 times out of 10.
I think this is the heart of the matter. 80% of programming questions have been answered already, exponential growth doesn't exist. It's more like a sigmoid function and we're in the tapering off part.
SO is a good site, but most questions have been answered.
>80% of programming
really it's this, programming is pretty much done unless you're developing actual new tech or some complicated low level efficiency stuff. But for 95% of the volume of programming, the problem is known, the patterns are known, and it's better having an AI assemble it and not code up a shitty insecure app because of inexperience/stupidity.
The purpose of stackoverflow is (was?) to create a repository of well-crafted questions and answers. The quality of the results depended on both the questioner and the answerer. This is real work and not immediately rewarding. Therefore the scoring system. It worked quite well for a good while.
In 10 years humans will not be capable of building up such a system anymore.
looking forward for stackoverflow to be about quality and not streetshitters spamming it with useless questions, since those will be busy asking ai for spaghetti bloat code
Had anybody noticed how fricking convenient it is that whatever's getting replaced by AI has tons of people flood in and talk about how shit they were in the first place?
>AI might replace writers! >THEY'RE ALL GOYSLOP LGBTQ LEFTISTS SUBVERTING ME ANYWAYS (Which is why I support them swapping to gpt which has racial bias sensitivity trained into it c:)
>AI might replace artists! >THEY'RE NOT REAL ARTISTS ANYWAYS IT'S ALL FURRY SLOP SCRIBBLES, FORCED DIVERSITY SLOP AND PORN (Which is why I support companies moving to Dall-E which has built in gender diversity and updates to remove stereotyping prompts c:)
>AI might replace coders and coding communities! >THEY'RE ALL TRANNIES AND GIVE SHIT ANSWERS ANYWAYS (which is why I support swapping to language models that give hallucinatory non working code and give me answers trained from said stackoverflow trannies anyways c:)
Has it occurred to you that a glorified chatbot is only capable of replacing these people/things because they fricking suck and their level of quality set a very low bar in the first place?
They're not real artists, though. An artist has ideas in their head, that they try to put down on paper exactly as they like, according to their skill. Typing in words and getting an image back depending on a dozen models fighting eachother just isn't the same, it's closer to using a search engine.
I just modded the sys prompt on gpt-4 to always answer like a malding stack overflow user. same experience but better, havent used stacky in almost a year
Black person. ChatGPT (or at least the free version of it) is based on 2021 sources. All of this will be outdated in a few years. I've already had issues ChatGPT and the documentation couldn't fix. If the code gets a bit complex ChatGPT rapidly becomes completely useless too.
Can someone explain like I'm moronic how advertising is a sustainable way to run ANYTHING online? It doesn't matter how many Papa Johns ads you throw at me, I'm still not buying that garbage.
yes, ads work in large numbers, so if they show a million people a subway ad, they know about how many sandwiches they will sell.
famous saying in the ad industry - "I know that half the money I spend on ads is wasted, I just don't know which half"
Last, don't underestimate the number of very smart people that work in this area, it's very complex and most people don't have any insight into what goes on but there is stuff out there about it if you want to learn.
aren't the answers written by users, and not paid employees?
if so why the frick is it a company? are they trying to monetize the frick out of it beyond minimal operating costs?
why do all these sites that went into maintenance mode decades ago even have employees? like at most all you need is like 2 people at most to maintain a website once it's finished...
Frick, you reminded me there was a really fricking funny topic on the stack exchange network in the hot questions last week which I didn't open because I was at work. Anyone remember what it was?
Hahahhahaha hahahha haaaa!!! Good riddance COOOOOODERS! So long! Was nice knowing you! AD BASED FINANCING WAS ALWAYS A FALLACY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER! Hahahahahahahha COOOOODERS BTFO! FRICK ADS! FRICK COOOODERS!
The problem with stackoverflow is that if you need help with something new and unique you don't get answer until someone eventually answers it. But what's worse is what happens if nobody really answers it or there's no real solution? Like a question about how do I fill and addcreate multiple excel sheets in powershell? Not just one sheet but multiple? It turns out it's not really possible or requires too much work to provide any value. It also can't be done in python, however you will see plenty of answers suggesting different ways to get the names or a dictionary list of all the sheet names within a workbook...
Show me every single piece of code you're ever written and a comprehensive list of everything you've tried or considered, including just using a pencil and paper. I demand scans of the paper and a shaving from the pencil mailed to my P.O. Box
It's not a threat for devs
Stack overflows strength was answering questions for devs
The ai does that now because it contains all of SO's information without needing to suffer SO's social credit redditness and homosexualry.
Ad revenues are down globally because of the interest rate freezing up easy money, tard.
>May be
>Woman's option
moron
This.
> My job is safe!
We all say that, until we see the stack of flat pac boxes on our desk.
>he doesn't have a 4-week notice clause in his contract
lol ask me how i know you don't have a real job?
>ask stackoverflow a question
>don't answer my question but steer me to a framework or niche product that abstracts away what i need to do instead
ChatGPT will answer my questions.
>Closed as duplicate of X
>X is not even remotely the same question
ChatGPT just gives me the answers, or at least points me in the right direction.
>Ask StackOverflow how does I into code
>Closed as non-specific
ChatGPT just gives me the answer, or at least points me in the right direction.
That's the right way to do it though
>ask question on stackoverflow
>This was already answered, you're a fricking moron, you're asking the wrong question, DUPLICATE (unrelated question), try using obscure language with no real world use
Why would anyone want to use stack overflow? You're better off getting wrong information on reddit or youtube than actively hostile information at this fricking point.
>How do I do A? I can't do B because $reasons
>lol just use these twenty different frameworks and rewrite the entire thing in a different language to do B instead
>
>How do I do A?
>You don't want to do A
This happens so much. People need to learn to read and answer the actual fricking question.
I don't understand the bad reputation has gotten.
I rarely visit it. But when I do I generally find relatively useful answers there.
But I think activity has died down a lot since ChatGPT took over. So not much new knowledge is going to accumulate there. This is what ingratitude leads to. Enjoy your AI slop.
kek I asked an algorithm question not too long ago and got piled with down votes because I didn't format basic multiplication shit using latex. And got a few passive aggressive comments. I improved my post and then they came back and said it was still shit for x y and z reasons and replaced the link i had in the post because I linked to a website that has cookies. I didn't see anything in the rules about cookies and I'm pretty sure the new link also had cookies too. So it was clearly just them being c**ts at that point.
So yeah, you bet I'm paying 20 dollars to my ai overlord instead now.
>le BOT hacker unironically gives more wholesome answers than stackoverflow
Aren't the people answering questions on stackoverflow volunteers? The main reason the site is inferior to AI is because of the misbehavior of the people 'answering' questions. It's not really the site devs fault and isn't directly replacing developers, just deleting the entire business.
AI has nothing to do with random streetshitters giving wrong and bad answers to simple questions solved by glancing a man page.
> cheap money era:
> - tech companies hire a legion of people to do who knows what
> expensive money (high interest rates) era:
> - tech companies correct their bs hiring practices by firing a bunch of people
> mah A.I.
This. Frick your stupid bait thread.
Or maybe it's because rising interest rates mean that companies actually have to have some plan for making money, and can't just bs about increasing the amount of users with made up stats anymore
>ask stackoverflow
>one two attention prostitute trannies and 8 pajeets respond
>ask ChatGPT
>data actively filtered by barely literate Africans is used to produce a increasingly nonsensical response
Dark times ahead
>usage and revenue declines
Does she have a source or is she just talking our of her ass?
She asked chatgpt(3.5 because she's a cheap prostitute) and that's what it told her
why don't they just learn to code or something?
>ask question on stackoverflow
>nobody gives helpful answer
>getting condescending replies to my question
>ask chatGPT how to solve my problem
>gets it solved without getting attitude from homosexual zit faced nerds on stackoverflow
if that site shuts down nothing of value would be lost
>THIS SITE USES COOKIES
>[USE ALL THE COOKIES]
>[NECESSARY ONLY]
>[CUSTOM COOKIE OPTIONS]
>we'll ask again next time too
>and the time after that
>also the site is useless and is at the top of every search engine
well you know, if you weren't using privacy software that prevents tracking they wouldn't have to ask every time because they'd store your choice in a cookie
which is illegal under GDPR, because it's not essential for the site's functionality
This
I remember back in college I used to ask my physics question from yahoo answers (sometimes) and god I had to stop myself from typing in all caps because they were the most condescending butthole I ever knew.
Motherfricker you CHOSE to answer, why are you such an ass
I am glad chargpt here to deliver us from egotistical peabrain humans
ChatGPT will create a fully formed function with my specifications that I can use to test. It doesn't always get it right or exactly what I need, but it's a good jumping off point.
Compared to stackoverflow, where sometimes there isn't a usable function, or if they do have one, it uses way too many dependencies to be tested.
Holy shit, is that actually the poo workflow? Just mindlessly googling how to do what you need?
Lemme guess, they had like 10k employees to maintain a literal Q&A site?
According to their linked in they have between 500-1000 employees. I'm guessing 80% of that is HR, 15% marketing, 4% chief diversity officers and 1% people actually keeping the servers running.
holy shit, techsyndicate wendel is a troony now?
always was
Good.
Frick stackoverflow and frick their trannie jannies.
Chatgpt is literally trained on stackoverflow you idiots
So it's superior to StackOverflow. Has the answers, but none of the bullshit of StackOverflow.
well, they forgot to code the snark and gatekeeping
indeed, picrel
>doneness
It's a perfectly cromulent word
You can add it in by editing the main prompt
It is. Ofcourse it is. But it removed the condescending attitude
Yep removed the ego from the knowledge
Good. Stack Overflow is too intimidating to post questions on. I feel like any question I may ask will get attacked because I wrote it wrong in some way, or god forbid someone already had the same/similar question several years back and I inconvenience one of the millions of strangers to type a repeat answer.
ChatGPT doesn't give you shit for asking questions, so naturally this is the superior option. Let it all burn.
The only thing that matters is that the median household income in 1970 was 235oz of gold. A senior SWE is very likely earning less than a 1970 truck driver in real terms. AI is a meme, technology is a force multiplier. Do not get distracted, you are generating more than ever, yet they want to pay you less than ever. Do not capitulate.
You laid out the problem, but what is the solution?
>there are people who help people do code they've been hired to write for free
>there are people who do someone else's homework for free
>there are people who answer people's questions for free
>there are people who moderate forums for free
>there are people reporting rule breaking posts for free
>there are people babysitting entire subreddits and hastags for free
>there are people who are expected too look at most vile child pornography and moderate it for free
most of the modern websites work on unpaid work of armchair jannies who want to "better the world" and "contribute to the community" by making rich people even richer. unionize the jannies.
There is nothing truly free in this world. Those c**ts get to boss people around and spread their garbage ideals in exchange for being a slave. They are the lowest of the low, since they have nothing better to do with their lives other than work for "free"
The price we pay for these "people" to run internet discussion and drive our culture is astronomical.
>so posters
>devs
Expected bait, but only found clickbait. Sic transit gloria mundi.
If you have to ask a question on stack overflow you're probably doing it wrong. Your exact question should already be answered at least 9 times out of 10.
I think this is the heart of the matter. 80% of programming questions have been answered already, exponential growth doesn't exist. It's more like a sigmoid function and we're in the tapering off part.
SO is a good site, but most questions have been answered.
>exponential growth doesn't exist
indefinitely*
This is the heart of the illusion, chatgpt is just a shadow of Google circa 2007
>80% of programming
really it's this, programming is pretty much done unless you're developing actual new tech or some complicated low level efficiency stuff. But for 95% of the volume of programming, the problem is known, the patterns are known, and it's better having an AI assemble it and not code up a shitty insecure app because of inexperience/stupidity.
AI is the one coding up a shitty insecure app. The rest of your statements are true, but AI can't even make a single working file.
The purpose of stackoverflow is (was?) to create a repository of well-crafted questions and answers. The quality of the results depended on both the questioner and the answerer. This is real work and not immediately rewarding. Therefore the scoring system. It worked quite well for a good while.
In 10 years humans will not be capable of building up such a system anymore.
>saar overflow
good morning, and good riddance
> every piece of info is going to be replaced by AI hallucinations
All hail the slopnet.
stackoverflow also has a shitty moderator problem.
looking forward for stackoverflow to be about quality and not streetshitters spamming it with useless questions, since those will be busy asking ai for spaghetti bloat code
>Kill stackoverflow the place AI steals it's answer from
>AI becomes useless at answering questions
>rehire people
>repeat cycle
Had anybody noticed how fricking convenient it is that whatever's getting replaced by AI has tons of people flood in and talk about how shit they were in the first place?
>AI might replace writers!
>THEY'RE ALL GOYSLOP LGBTQ LEFTISTS SUBVERTING ME ANYWAYS (Which is why I support them swapping to gpt which has racial bias sensitivity trained into it c:)
>AI might replace artists!
>THEY'RE NOT REAL ARTISTS ANYWAYS IT'S ALL FURRY SLOP SCRIBBLES, FORCED DIVERSITY SLOP AND PORN (Which is why I support companies moving to Dall-E which has built in gender diversity and updates to remove stereotyping prompts c:)
>AI might replace coders and coding communities!
>THEY'RE ALL TRANNIES AND GIVE SHIT ANSWERS ANYWAYS (which is why I support swapping to language models that give hallucinatory non working code and give me answers trained from said stackoverflow trannies anyways c:)
literally 0 sense
It's all true, though.
Has it occurred to you that a glorified chatbot is only capable of replacing these people/things because they fricking suck and their level of quality set a very low bar in the first place?
They're not real artists, though. An artist has ideas in their head, that they try to put down on paper exactly as they like, according to their skill. Typing in words and getting an image back depending on a dozen models fighting eachother just isn't the same, it's closer to using a search engine.
I just modded the sys prompt on gpt-4 to always answer like a malding stack overflow user. same experience but better, havent used stacky in almost a year
most of the morons getting laid off at tech companies are literally fricking dead weight
you can quadruple your salary right now by using gpt4 and taking quadruple the contractsc
sorry, but basically, the weak pussies will perish. usch is the way. i hope they lose their mortgage, wives, and everything else
just in, strikes over guys!
I thought stackoverflow was just a forum.
Black person. ChatGPT (or at least the free version of it) is based on 2021 sources. All of this will be outdated in a few years. I've already had issues ChatGPT and the documentation couldn't fix. If the code gets a bit complex ChatGPT rapidly becomes completely useless too.
>expecting technical questions to be answered coherently by nerds
I see your point OP
Can someone explain like I'm moronic how advertising is a sustainable way to run ANYTHING online? It doesn't matter how many Papa Johns ads you throw at me, I'm still not buying that garbage.
>can someone tell me how people who sell burgers think that's a good idea when i don't even like burgers?
That's what you sound like.
But the websites aren't advertising their products or products related to the content of the website.
yes, ads work in large numbers, so if they show a million people a subway ad, they know about how many sandwiches they will sell.
famous saying in the ad industry - "I know that half the money I spend on ads is wasted, I just don't know which half"
Last, don't underestimate the number of very smart people that work in this area, it's very complex and most people don't have any insight into what goes on but there is stuff out there about it if you want to learn.
aren't the answers written by users, and not paid employees?
if so why the frick is it a company? are they trying to monetize the frick out of it beyond minimal operating costs?
What exactly do the employees do? Are they the ones responsible for most the bitter, rage filled responses that all follow the pattern:
How dare you... HOW DARE YOU ASK THIS QUESTION?
I am locking this, here's a link to a decade old question about a different problem that never got an actual answer.
Also, next time post every single thing you tried.
>hey guys how do I do X
>lol you must be moronic for trying to do X do YZ instead
why do all these sites that went into maintenance mode decades ago even have employees? like at most all you need is like 2 people at most to maintain a website once it's finished...
>like at most all you need is like 2 people at most to maintain a website once it's finished...
do you think only 2 people maintain BOT?
clearly only one or two, just look at how long the is2 subdomain was fricked recently
A single mastermind would be more efficient but zero would be more sovlful
student alert
Frick, you reminded me there was a really fricking funny topic on the stack exchange network in the hot questions last week which I didn't open because I was at work. Anyone remember what it was?
stackoverflow is one of the websites that people had to use and everyone hated it.
Adtech bubble!
AI is future.
If you're a serious dev Stackoverflow should be on your uBlacklist anyway.
>>AI is not a threat for devs
yeah its not a threat for "devs" for anyone doing actual work its gonna improve their workflow if anything
chatgpt gives really fricked up answers though. you have to double check with it if its solution is even remotely viable.
Hahahhahaha hahahha haaaa!!! Good riddance COOOOOODERS! So long! Was nice knowing you! AD BASED FINANCING WAS ALWAYS A FALLACY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER! Hahahahahahahha COOOOODERS BTFO! FRICK ADS! FRICK COOOODERS!
StackOverflow has employees?
>How do I do X?
>NOOOOO DON'T DO X NEVER DO X YOUR SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR DOING X DO Y AND NO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL WORK
Stack overflow a shit
Almost all developers I know use adblocker, I'm not sure if they were making profit in the first place.
SE student here, should I be worried?
n-
>onimai
yes
But I thought everyone there did it for free?
The problem with stackoverflow is that if you need help with something new and unique you don't get answer until someone eventually answers it. But what's worse is what happens if nobody really answers it or there's no real solution? Like a question about how do I fill and addcreate multiple excel sheets in powershell? Not just one sheet but multiple? It turns out it's not really possible or requires too much work to provide any value. It also can't be done in python, however you will see plenty of answers suggesting different ways to get the names or a dictionary list of all the sheet names within a workbook...
Show me every single piece of code you're ever written and a comprehensive list of everything you've tried or considered, including just using a pencil and paper. I demand scans of the paper and a shaving from the pencil mailed to my P.O. Box
It's not a threat for devs
Stack overflows strength was answering questions for devs
The ai does that now because it contains all of SO's information without needing to suffer SO's social credit redditness and homosexualry.
It's creating even more devs.
Finally, Stack can return to a place of discussion