why do they care about AI? Making art shouldn't be for others or money. It should be done for expressing ourselves. Artist who care about this are as sovless as AI.
>Why is this person who dedicated their life to a craft that is already barely respected freaking out over emerging tech that will further devalue their entire skill set? >She's probably just greedy
Correct, it's greed.
These artists want to be able to profit from it, if they can't they feel bad about it and realize that everything they make is just training data.
Artists aren't tools.
Artists use tools to express themselves.
If an artist is replaced by a tool, they aren't really making art. People really need to learn more art history cause this same scenario has played out numerous times and artists always end up improving as a result. You'll find essays from pretentious French Gaylords in the 1800's about how photography is killing the arts and must be stopped because you no longer have to commission some gay to paint an expensive portrait of you anymore. And then you fast forward to fricking 1990 and photographers were fricking livid that Photoshop took all the difficulty of post processing and editing away from their pussy hands and made it so simple that they would surely be out of jobs.
senior software dev here, that's exactly what I do. I don't pretend coding has "muh sovl", I just do whatever shit needs to get done in the most efficient way possible so I can get back to mai waifu
LOL kek this just sparked some idea to me.
if you put "no no" stuff it would be refused to get trained with AI.
we're talking e-girlchad artists won't get frickd since the AI cannot draw dicky (and if they do they'd get pickled)
you can also draw racist shit and caricatures alike, like on that pic "Black person" sure can AI do that? it's too woke.
senior software dev here, that's exactly what I do. I don't pretend coding has "muh sovl", I just do whatever shit needs to get done in the most efficient way possible so I can get back to mai waifu
Based tech enjoyer
I'm a junior dev who just recently picked up digital drawing as a hobby , quite fun really. Surely real artists can use this as a leverage instead of terminally seething online?
looks like some high school kid using random prompts in stable diffusion, should have hired one of the autists from /sdg/ to create a marvel lora and create something that actually looks better than any artist
Terms like "dehumanizing", "sexualization", "commodification" are always used when someone ones to bettle technological advances that make our lives better, but since they can't really find a fault in the new technologies, they have make up words that imply that AI/biotech and so on are somehow bad because reasons.
"it hurts my ego" is a really funny argument all things considered. just imagine how many jobs have been lost over the course of history to technological innovation, think of all the careers rendered anachronistic and obsolete, think of all the economic disenfranchisement of working people. now think of how nobody has ever given a shit.
"my feelings are hurt" doesn't quite carry the same weight as "i can't afford to feed my kids anymore." the answer to both will always remain the same. "not my problem"
>that make our lives better
Delusional
One thing does not mean the other
AI has the potential to be a great tool indeed. The same way a nuclear reaction is great for energy production.
Tech is a double edged sword. To think otherwise is very imature. Transhumanists and tech freaks are morons. Humans do not need tech to be happy or survive.
Tech is a luxury and should be respected
>The art team were the ones that made the decision to use AI for the imagery, not any executive at Marvel >They specifically did it because the idea of the show is about humans being replaced and they thought it was perfect for the theme
The people saying AI will replace artists make no sense. Do you not realize the prompts still have to be written and possibly tuned by someone? I doubt some executive at Disney or the director are going to want to have waste their time fiddling with Stable Diffusion instead of just hiring an artist to do it and touch up any changes they want after creation. Is there any evidence of these artists jobs actually being fully replaced by AI tools at large corporations like Disney? Most I've seen of AI actually replacing anyone is at spammy SEO companies that want to shit out hundreds of worthless blogposts a day
The problem with these articles and a lot of normies' fears of AI is they think the production studio just opened up an image generator, entered "Secret Invasion Credits" and clicked GO and the entire sequence was complete.
They used AI to help flesh out the design and art style of the credits but they still had to animate and edit every frame. AI just sped the process up.
God i hate looking at AI art. It's like trying to make out images while staring at television static. Literally just noise and patterns in the data. Completely soulless
I'm really fricking sick of left-wing political activism. It's always the same fricking thing: easy, short-term moral victories that are often harmful in the mid to long term, and the total suppression of any nuance.
How shit this is so good. I haven't seen art of this quality in years. It just has such a good sense of style and flow. The artist should be worry while they were filling their head with bullshit propaganda the AI was actually doing their jobs much better than them.
Why are you hating the game and not the players?
The problem in OP pic is not AI, but rather the company that don't give a single frick about people and will use any means to cut corners.
I still don't see how they "didn't give a frick a out people" when they very clearly paid people to make it...
What the frick do people expect intros for shovelware Disney+ shows to be? Can anyone who's mad about this name a single other Disney+ original live action show with an intro that's actually artistically impressive?
This isn't a fricking Saturday morning cartoon, it's a live action show put on a platform where they expect a majority of viewers will just skip through anyway while binge watching.
There's an interview out there with the showrunner about the intro and tb h it sounds like he's a bit dim and just wanted an excuse to use AI because it's the new thing - they can make post-hoc justifications about it tying into the theme of the show for damage control.
Yes people got paid, they used Method Studios, but the team was pretty small and titles for big shows usually involve larger teams so Disney and method probably saved quite a bit of money here.
My problem is that it looks like trash; like embarrassingly bad. Method should feel awful about putting out something like this. Contrast with the titles to recent shows like Foundation or raised by wolves and it's mind boggling that this thing made it to air.
Have you seen the intro for their other Disney+ shows? I assure you, not a single one of them is high budget or looks good. Check out
https://i.imgur.com/uFxGGU1.gif
>NOOOO THEY HECKIN TOOK AN ARTIST'S JOB FOR THIS!!!
Meanwhile, the intro for their other shitty show...
as an example of what they did for Loki's intro.
The opening does indeed look like shit, but people are kidding themselves if they think anyone's jobs were cut. Truth is this intro has more thought and effort out into it than any other Disney+ marvel series. That may not say much, but it's the truth really. People are only pissy because it's AI, they never cared the past 3 or so years that their goyslop gave 0 fricks in how their intros were presented. Wandacision was probably the only one that they actually bothered with and that was probably just because it added to the plot.
Tb h I think the Loki one is actually better than this, but yes, I think the short, low effort title thing has been a trend for awhile now. Makes sense too for streaming platforms.
I think it's valid for artists to upset here tho. First, and less important, Disney has the money to fund nice titles if the showrunners demand it - they've certainly made an allowance on length here which is arguably more important.
But more importantly this does set a precedent and it's a grim reminder of where things are headed. Let's be honest, people will cut costs where they can and now they can say 'well Disney did it'. It's going to happen more and more and beyond just titles, is just the reality of it. The visceral reaction to it is because now it is real and it's here and it happened at one of the most cash-rich places in Hollywood. I'll just be honest, 2d artists are in trouble and anyone getting into the field now should probably explore other options because it's going to get really brutal.
COVID was the AI and vaxx helped deliver it. >over 70% of the worlds population has been inoculated with the [Q]uantum AI >13.4 billion doses administered
Now we just wait for them to roll out the new technohomosexual system and hook up all the cattle to it along with all the IoT devices before the inevitable. Many of the unvaxxed will line up for the boosters once UBI and other benefits are announced.
stfu you moronic homosexual frick. Ai will help us create vaccines to help us survive probably even help us come up with a cure for aging fast as frick too. AI will equalize as well because no one will be able to keep the cure for aging to themselves for very long.
Why do you want to cure aging Mr.Reddit?
You think living forever is a good thing?
Why no improve people's shitty lives instead of creating some satanic thing? Life is death.
You are the cultist you transhumanist scum
Life's meaning is derived from it being an unique and temporal experience.
AI is supposed to be a tool and treated as such. You should also respect its power not c00m to it. If anything, it should be used to improve live on earth of both human beings and other living organisms. Not destroy it for muh intelligence. You don't need any of it.
And making people live forever is not an improvement. It's a jail for eternity. If you don't see the moral implication of it you are a deranged tech c00mer
What ACTUALLY happened: >the art used for the AI generation was artists' own concept art >the decision came from artists/studio, not Marvel or Disney >no one lost their job or money because of it
No, AI is based and moronic. Most artists are mentally ill cry babies
why do they care about AI? Making art shouldn't be for others or money. It should be done for expressing ourselves. Artist who care about this are as sovless as AI.
>Why is this person who dedicated their life to a craft that is already barely respected freaking out over emerging tech that will further devalue their entire skill set?
>She's probably just greedy
Correct, it's greed.
These artists want to be able to profit from it, if they can't they feel bad about it and realize that everything they make is just training data.
Artists aren't tools.
Artists use tools to express themselves.
If an artist is replaced by a tool, they aren't really making art. People really need to learn more art history cause this same scenario has played out numerous times and artists always end up improving as a result. You'll find essays from pretentious French Gaylords in the 1800's about how photography is killing the arts and must be stopped because you no longer have to commission some gay to paint an expensive portrait of you anymore. And then you fast forward to fricking 1990 and photographers were fricking livid that Photoshop took all the difficulty of post processing and editing away from their pussy hands and made it so simple that they would surely be out of jobs.
God people are so moronic.
Yep, people said the same thing about chess.
Chess is more popular than ever.
It's bullshit arguments put forward by pea-brained morons.
I don't care about artists. I only care about nipping the AI menace in the bud before it's too late.
This image sums it up
Both are shit
>You don't like this garbage?
>That means you like this garbage.
Kek
I'm seeing two lines in the red thing
artgay here, imagine crying about AI instead of using it as a tool to enhance your art and make the whole process faster
>artgay here, imagine crying about AI instead of using it as a tool to enhance your art
In terms of output,
artgay + AI > random moron + AI
senior software dev here, that's exactly what I do. I don't pretend coding has "muh sovl", I just do whatever shit needs to get done in the most efficient way possible so I can get back to mai waifu
based senior dev
With coding its really not the journey but purely the destination
LOL kek this just sparked some idea to me.
if you put "no no" stuff it would be refused to get trained with AI.
we're talking e-girlchad artists won't get frickd since the AI cannot draw dicky (and if they do they'd get pickled)
you can also draw racist shit and caricatures alike, like on that pic "Black person" sure can AI do that? it's too woke.
Based tech enjoyer
I'm a junior dev who just recently picked up digital drawing as a hobby , quite fun really. Surely real artists can use this as a leverage instead of terminally seething online?
You're most definitely not an art-anything you soulless subhuman.
>WAAAAAH PEOPLE OWE ME A JOB
looks like some high school kid using random prompts in stable diffusion, should have hired one of the autists from /sdg/ to create a marvel lora and create something that actually looks better than any artist
>hired
all they had to was make a bait comment saying noone in the thread could ever create such content
The uncanny nature of the AI is the intended effect because the plotline about shape-shifting aliens.
Terms like "dehumanizing", "sexualization", "commodification" are always used when someone ones to bettle technological advances that make our lives better, but since they can't really find a fault in the new technologies, they have make up words that imply that AI/biotech and so on are somehow bad because reasons.
"it hurts my ego" is a really funny argument all things considered. just imagine how many jobs have been lost over the course of history to technological innovation, think of all the careers rendered anachronistic and obsolete, think of all the economic disenfranchisement of working people. now think of how nobody has ever given a shit.
"my feelings are hurt" doesn't quite carry the same weight as "i can't afford to feed my kids anymore." the answer to both will always remain the same. "not my problem"
>that make our lives better
Delusional
One thing does not mean the other
AI has the potential to be a great tool indeed. The same way a nuclear reaction is great for energy production.
Tech is a double edged sword. To think otherwise is very imature. Transhumanists and tech freaks are morons. Humans do not need tech to be happy or survive.
Tech is a luxury and should be respected
they didn't say this about special FX explosions or model spaceship builders.
PHONY OUTRAGE because political ally is now on chopping block.
>The art team were the ones that made the decision to use AI for the imagery, not any executive at Marvel
>They specifically did it because the idea of the show is about humans being replaced and they thought it was perfect for the theme
The people saying AI will replace artists make no sense. Do you not realize the prompts still have to be written and possibly tuned by someone? I doubt some executive at Disney or the director are going to want to have waste their time fiddling with Stable Diffusion instead of just hiring an artist to do it and touch up any changes they want after creation. Is there any evidence of these artists jobs actually being fully replaced by AI tools at large corporations like Disney? Most I've seen of AI actually replacing anyone is at spammy SEO companies that want to shit out hundreds of worthless blogposts a day
I'll agree that AI takes your job if you agree that mass immigration takes mine. Capisce?
>just outcompete Infinite Resource X
isn't really a convincing argument when it's your job on the line is it?
>incredible artists
>at Marvel Studios
heh
The only AI art I care about is my own, anything else is (to me) worth less than garbage
Based all those artgays will have to admit their dads were right all along.
what dads?
Wouldn't you like to know Black person boy
This is what we will get from now on. Teams of sub-saharan joggers prompting all day to achieve such results. Enjoy.
The problem with these articles and a lot of normies' fears of AI is they think the production studio just opened up an image generator, entered "Secret Invasion Credits" and clicked GO and the entire sequence was complete.
They used AI to help flesh out the design and art style of the credits but they still had to animate and edit every frame. AI just sped the process up.
>dehumanizing
Great. I hate humans.
So why haven't you killed yourself?
Because he only pretends to hate life.
I do love my mom though
someone has to hate the humans, I am making a noble sacrifice by staying alive in order to project my hatred onto the world
I think humans are the only ones capable of hating humans, and so they do
it's a phenomenon called oikophobia, and it's fricking everywhere
music to my ears
Can't believe artists are THAT butthurt, this shit is incredible
tbf that is from Reddit.
even better then
>suicide livestream
>art
lol, that's not art, that's entertainment
when will ai replace redditmoderators?
>devaluing art
Black person they have been doing that for decades. Where were articles like this back then?
>NOOOO THEY HECKIN TOOK AN ARTIST'S JOB FOR THIS!!!
Meanwhile, the intro for their other shitty show...
God i hate looking at AI art. It's like trying to make out images while staring at television static. Literally just noise and patterns in the data. Completely soulless
I'm really fricking sick of left-wing political activism. It's always the same fricking thing: easy, short-term moral victories that are often harmful in the mid to long term, and the total suppression of any nuance.
Actual creative people will always be working. Sad hacks that don't have their own style deserve obsolescence.
How shit this is so good. I haven't seen art of this quality in years. It just has such a good sense of style and flow. The artist should be worry while they were filling their head with bullshit propaganda the AI was actually doing their jobs much better than them.
Its clearly done by union artist
Nope AI. Artist should be worried. Maybe if they had the skills and talents of their grandparents, but this batch is fricked.
I don't really care about it tbh but my problem with AI comes from the fact that it might possibly give opportunities to pajeets like
to make money or popularity when I just really want them all to suffer
fartists got too wienery. they were spamming how AI would kill programmers, but it killed them instead lmao
Why are you hating the game and not the players?
The problem in OP pic is not AI, but rather the company that don't give a single frick about people and will use any means to cut corners.
I still don't see how they "didn't give a frick a out people" when they very clearly paid people to make it...
What the frick do people expect intros for shovelware Disney+ shows to be? Can anyone who's mad about this name a single other Disney+ original live action show with an intro that's actually artistically impressive?
This isn't a fricking Saturday morning cartoon, it's a live action show put on a platform where they expect a majority of viewers will just skip through anyway while binge watching.
There's an interview out there with the showrunner about the intro and tb h it sounds like he's a bit dim and just wanted an excuse to use AI because it's the new thing - they can make post-hoc justifications about it tying into the theme of the show for damage control.
Yes people got paid, they used Method Studios, but the team was pretty small and titles for big shows usually involve larger teams so Disney and method probably saved quite a bit of money here.
My problem is that it looks like trash; like embarrassingly bad. Method should feel awful about putting out something like this. Contrast with the titles to recent shows like Foundation or raised by wolves and it's mind boggling that this thing made it to air.
Have you seen the intro for their other Disney+ shows? I assure you, not a single one of them is high budget or looks good. Check out
as an example of what they did for Loki's intro.
The opening does indeed look like shit, but people are kidding themselves if they think anyone's jobs were cut. Truth is this intro has more thought and effort out into it than any other Disney+ marvel series. That may not say much, but it's the truth really. People are only pissy because it's AI, they never cared the past 3 or so years that their goyslop gave 0 fricks in how their intros were presented. Wandacision was probably the only one that they actually bothered with and that was probably just because it added to the plot.
Tb h I think the Loki one is actually better than this, but yes, I think the short, low effort title thing has been a trend for awhile now. Makes sense too for streaming platforms.
I think it's valid for artists to upset here tho. First, and less important, Disney has the money to fund nice titles if the showrunners demand it - they've certainly made an allowance on length here which is arguably more important.
But more importantly this does set a precedent and it's a grim reminder of where things are headed. Let's be honest, people will cut costs where they can and now they can say 'well Disney did it'. It's going to happen more and more and beyond just titles, is just the reality of it. The visceral reaction to it is because now it is real and it's here and it happened at one of the most cash-rich places in Hollywood. I'll just be honest, 2d artists are in trouble and anyone getting into the field now should probably explore other options because it's going to get really brutal.
Jobs are dehumanizing but those seem to be sticking around forever.
Friendly reminder to unionise now because it's coming for you too
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/21/media/bild-germany-newspaper-ai-layoffs/index.html
The average anon is a neet either way and /misc/tards are beyond brainbroken
COVID was the AI and vaxx helped deliver it.
>over 70% of the worlds population has been inoculated with the [Q]uantum AI
>13.4 billion doses administered
Now we just wait for them to roll out the new technohomosexual system and hook up all the cattle to it along with all the IoT devices before the inevitable. Many of the unvaxxed will line up for the boosters once UBI and other benefits are announced.
stfu you moronic homosexual frick. Ai will help us create vaccines to help us survive probably even help us come up with a cure for aging fast as frick too. AI will equalize as well because no one will be able to keep the cure for aging to themselves for very long.
Why do you want to cure aging Mr.Reddit?
You think living forever is a good thing?
Why no improve people's shitty lives instead of creating some satanic thing? Life is death.
>Life is death.
spoken like a true cultist
You are the cultist you transhumanist scum
Life's meaning is derived from it being an unique and temporal experience.
AI is supposed to be a tool and treated as such. You should also respect its power not c00m to it. If anything, it should be used to improve live on earth of both human beings and other living organisms. Not destroy it for muh intelligence. You don't need any of it.
And making people live forever is not an improvement. It's a jail for eternity. If you don't see the moral implication of it you are a deranged tech c00mer
undeniably true though, it's a belief that isn't up for debate
is it the phrasing that stuck in your craw? nothing lasts forever.. feel better?
>Consume any new media from the US in 2023
lmao
reminder that the marketplace for art is not supply-constrained before you come in with brainlet takes.
What ACTUALLY happened:
>the art used for the AI generation was artists' own concept art
>the decision came from artists/studio, not Marvel or Disney
>no one lost their job or money because of it
supporting any form of ai art should be grounds to lose your job
nah
but 5c have been deposited into your openai account
Didn't knew secret invasion is out. Thanks for the heads up.