Duolingo laid off a huge percentage of their contract translators, and the remaining ones are simply reviewing AI translations to make sure they're 'acceptable'.
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>contract translators
KEK, I mean, literally why would you not do this?
This is a very reasonable decision from them. Why pay 4 jannies when you just just pay 2 to produce the same slop?
The guys who made Duolingo are fricking geniuses.
Why don't zoomers know how to combine two images into one? You don't need to reply to yourself. Unless you're a phonegay
Discuss what? People just need to accept AI is here to stay and jobs, and in some cases this term is applied very loosely, will be lost. If you want a future-proof job, start learning welding, construction, HVAC, electrical engineering, etc. Actually useful stuff.
what trades should I into? I've been doing concrete and stonemasonry since high school and I'm helping my father in law with HVAC work to try to pick some of that up
Any sort of job that puts you adjacent to the military-industrial complex. I'm busting my ass trying to get into aerospace because I figure the last jobs that will be fully automated are the ones that deal with state security.
>you're fired
>please rate your employment 1-5
Voice were AI created since a long time, and nobody cried when voice actor were fired...
kek
>Get dumb sentences like "He likes to eat bugs!"
don't care, frick duolingo.
>Reject all AI-based companies
>Reject all AI-based companies
>Reject all AI-based companies
>Reject all AI-based companies
>Reject all AI-based companies
>Reject all AI-based companies
Cope.
Must've been the remaining two duolingo employees in
lol why are you defending companies laying off people with AI? Fricking bootlickers I swear.
Continuous demanding usage of AI slop will incentivize companies to use more AI shit in a lot of services. Enjoy your new EV or washing machines with homosexual ass GPT capabilities when not everything needs to be implemented with GPT. You should be the one to have a nice day stupid homosexual.
Get a real job, limp wrist. I have a low skill job that I know will never be taken over by AI. Work for local businesses rather than large companies. Get your hands dirty, pussy homosexual b***h.
Why shouldnt everything have GPT in it?
I'm already being spied on by my toaster, the least that rat bastard could do is solve a few homework problems for me.
nah, no thanks, your recommendation is moronic and doesn't even give a reason. have a nice day now
Ai >>> contractors
When are you canceling your health insurance?
Your complains will fall on deaf ears, and your posts will get tons of replies by, ironic enough, AI bots made to post favourably about AI.
It's over. If you want to talk to real people, you will have to do it the old way: in person.
>Reject cars horses are the best!
>Reject gasoline steam rules!
>Embrace all AI-based companies
>Embrace all AI-based companies
>Embrace all AI-based companies
>Embrace all AI-based companies
original sauce
99% of white collar workers are shitlibs, i will not shed a single tear when all of them get replaced by a server farm.
LEARN TO CODE.
>LEARN TO COD...ACK
You should post the curve after 09/2023
>contractors
lol, also translation jobs were always gonna be the first to go along side copywriting
Guy was working for 5 years as a translator, not even the kind that has to be able to talk and listen at the same time - A fricking text-translator.
And he's surprised he's getting replaced? I'm surprised his position even existed 5 years ago.
I hope the guy learned a skill other than 'being fluent in 2 languages' in those 5 years.
Even this is going to be replaced with just Google Translate. It can interpret between languages pretty well right now and I know they're still working on it.
This
This is the equivalent of wanting to be a grocery store cashier in a white town, you know self checkouts are coming, you know even in a perfect world your labor pool will be oversaturated.
Self checkouts lose supermarkets far more money than it would cost for a cashier.
True. I was surprised they weren't doing that for years
>not even the kind that has to be able to talk and listen at the same time - A fricking text-translator.
That's called an interpreter you dubmfrick.
learn to weld.
weld what? your replacements?
dumb motherfricker
>fakin blaady
>Create machines create machines create machines
Yup. Blue collar, white collar, we're all gonna be taken down. So put on your fricking red collar and get ready.
I like the idea of us all coming together and building robots so this sounds like a good timeline.
>2024
>Learn to fix robots
try the 1960s anon.
You missed the other key point: by late 2010s the "learn to code" meme had driven software engineer wages down outside certain areas.
You're skipping ahead a bit, Duolingo.
We're still in the normalization-phase of generative AI.
But don't worry, soon enough we'll have half as many jobs available on the market, most of which will be entry-level prompt monkey jobs that pays minimum wage. Mainly because you no longer need to have any sort of expertise or training; just be fluent in a language the AI speaks.
You books, movies, and games will become more and more generic, because writing will primarily be made using AI with minimal QA.
Your games and software will have more and more minor bugs and generic assets, because it will be put together by AI with minimal QA.
Communications (email, ads, presentations, etc.) will be more and more sterile, because it will all be largely generated by AI with minimal QA.
You will consume the aislop, and you will be happy.
They're already generic, buggy and stale bro, you're worried that pissing in the sewer is going to make the water dirty
>implying it can't get worse
>implying companies won't try and get away with worse
>implying the majority of people won't come to accept it because they're too dependent on it
It has been worse enough already for a long long time, I already don't base my life on it to care, everything I consoom is just the same things that were done in the 90s and before.
>implying the majority of people won't come to accept it because they're too dependent on it
Of course they will. They have been gobling it up since when it became shit by human hands!
>omg it will get worse!!!
It's already bad moron
>but it will get WORSE THAN THAT!
No, you don't get it. IT'S ALREADY THAT BAD. It's already shit. You homosexuals think that soulless slop made by humans is good while soulless slop made by AI is bad, but both are the same shit just made by different things.
>You books, movies, and games will become more and more generic, because writing will primarily be made using AI with minimal QA.
>Your games and software will have more and more minor bugs and generic assets, because it will be put together by AI with minimal QA.
>Communications (email, ads, presentations, etc.) will be more and more sterile, because it will all be largely generated by AI with minimal QA.
Wow, so we have been consuming AI since 2010!
>Communications (email, ads, presentations, etc.) will be more and more sterile, because it will all be largely generated by AI with minimal QA.
NOOOO THINK OF THE HECKIN ADERINOS!!! I CANT BELIEVE THEYRE GIVING IT TO AI INSTEAD OF THE INTERN
Falling America is like falling Rome, but the bread is bad and the circus is stupid.
That honestly gives me hope.
The people are not sufficiently placated.
Good thing I have a huge backlog of content that can last me more than a lifetime.
Books aside, movies and games are too risky to experiment with, and therefore don't get innovated upon very much. Investors just won't have it.
Even so, good films get the recognition they deserve. Recent Disney films got panned because they were trash. Same with the shit LotR show.
The real problem is the fact that brand recognition and marketing is sufficient to carry trash out of the box office bomb zone. It doesn't have to be good, you don't need to like it, you just need to go SEE it. Anything else is irrelevant.
It’s interesting. Initially I thought AI wasn’t much of a threat because if you have even a tiny bit of taste it’s obvious all it can turn out is generic, poorly-made slop. But it turns out businesses are perfectly happy with selling generic slop and people are perfectly happy with consuming it - they did so long before AI after all.
have you ever read Buzzfeed? that was standardised to a huge extent.
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Dont know what people expected, the writing was on the wall for years, being a translator was always a job on borrowed time, we didnt even need AI for computers to handle this, just a decent translation program.
Like it sucks for these people, but its hard to feel bad when you've cultivated zero skills other than having been born in a bi lingual household. Thats really not even a skill these days anymore since theres so many bilingual folks now.
>being a translator was always a job on borrowed time
Translators tended to "pride" themselves on passing on meaning during translation when no direct translation is available. Something machines has a hard time doing until recently.
Anime/Manga translators are an extreme example of this and it's about high time they get the boot too
Synchronous in-person translation is still highly coveted, especially in politics or for cultures big on body language. The trick if you know multiple languages is being an extrovert.
Who cares, Duolingo ruined learning languages
Ai is NOT a threat!
>thousands laid off
It's a passing fad!
>thousands laid off
It'll never replace human workers!
>thousands laid off
Corporations don't care about us, but that doesn't mean they'll use AI!
>thousands laid off
The government will stop it any day now!
>thousands laid off
AI WILL TAKE DECADES TO BE A THING!!
>millions laid off
This makes me so fricking hard. I want every job sector to fricking collapse
Heavy Duolingo user here with a +1000 days streak
As much as I hate this, it is the right move. In the past, when I pressed the "My translation should have been accepted" button, it took up to 5 months to get approved.
AI will do this almost in real time.
Bro are LLMs going to replace me in civil?
Once you homosexuals that complain about being replaced right now understand that you have been doing that to us since 2010, in different ways and in different areas, then you might get that this was already predicted, that's why you see people prepping on varied forms.
But you homosexuals never will get it, you probably will rot six feets under thinking the same.
Meanwhile, the contractor who did my bathroom makes more than most programmers in my country. Obviously AGI will obliterate all, but automation moves slower than demographic collapse.
>Obviously AGI will obliterate all, but automation moves slower than demographic collapse.
Not this time, buddy. This time it's advancing much, much faster than demographic collapse. You ready to find out what happens to a nation when the government is owned by corporations, and allows said corpos to lay off millions of people inside of a few years with NO financial protections or aid?
Who do you morons think corporations will sell goods and services to if all the common peasants are in poverty?
me, I am the ultimate goy
>Who do you morons think corporations will sell goods and services to if all the common peasants are in poverty?
Anon, you still don't get it? That's exactly the point. The corporations LITERALLY DO NOT THINK THAT FAR AHEAD. Do you know what they see and think? They see "replace worker with AI, next quarter shareholder profits = HUGE!!!"
They're not thinking about the economy. They're not thinking about the fallout. They're not thinking about how this destroys buyer power and would leave no one to sell goods to. This does NOT concern them: what they care about, like an addict sniffing a full crack pipe, is that they can make the Number Bigger for next quarter. Does that sound silly and scary to you? Yeah, it is! That's why we're in this situation, because corporations literally do not plan for a future more than a few months ahead at a time.
Welcome to Hell, butthole.
People need to realize that’s it’s idiots all the way up. Businesses are run by people who are agreeable, convincing, popular, and who are able to make deals happen; but they’re not run by people who are truly smart. Chaos will ensue when these corpos put millions out of work because they’re too fricking dumb to realize they need people with money to sell products to. This is why a “hidden hand” exists—to prevent these morons from tanking civilization.
The target audience for bigger companies is not their customers. It's their shareholders and investors.
They can't just be profitable, they have to be *increasingly* profitable every year. They have to focus on growth and not sustainability, because that's their true business model.
The peasants will require goods from corporations to survive.
The government will print the peasants money to afford it.
>This time it's advancing much, much faster than demographic collapse.
No, it ain't. Robots are still terrible manipulators being run by software with no common sense. Just adding more layers will not fix this shit, it needs AGI.
Current levels of AI are only a productivity enhancer in a tiny sliver of the economy.
>Once you homosexuals that complain about being replaced right now understand that you have been doing that to us since 2010
The fact that you think this has only been going on since 2010 shows how fricking moronic you are. This has been the entire point of the industrial revolution you giga-homosexual.
>manual translators
do companies really?
Konichiwa, dood!
When will there be an AI that can translate, correct and modify a VN to run on non-Japanese systems?
AI doesn't exist
Explain Data from Star Trek then.
Explain the Data I have of me sleeping with your mom
doesn't exist, just like AI
i-i uhh i'm not prepared to give an explanation for that at this moment
6th Gen video games unironically had better ai then any game since 2010 and ai salesmen really think any current AI is "advanced" when we peaked over a decade ago. Please show me a game with better enemy AI then the first fear game or trilogy of stalker games. You can't. AI is a dead end field and computer science peaked like aerospace engineering and the Saturn v.
Nobody cares about AI in vidya, it's all about pretty graphics.
Hes a long guy
bjarne a real homie
god i wish i was a saturn v rocket
Its not because of the translations done by the ai but its a scapegoat to hife their deșire to restructure.
I tried to use ChatGPT 4 to tell me what the proper response to the Twi word for "thank you," "medase," and it told me to use "akwaaba." The Ghanaian girl I said that to laughed and told me it was a good attempt but I used the word incorrectly. So much for AI translation.
>AI helps you score
>instead of pounding foreign pussy you're shitting only AI wingman on BOT
Beyond salvation
Why are you talking to a Ghanian girl
She has giant breasts and a really big round butt. I'm a black American so don't worry about it.
cool
kek
Dont shit up the african gene pool with your mutt genes.
Because he's GHANA get some, you limp-dick half-man.
>Known as meme owl
>known for being useless as tutor
>now powered by AI
you know, it might be better now.
Do we know if it's because of AI, or are people just assuming that? There have been lots of layoffs lately that have had more to do with interest rates and lack of investor capital than anything else.
Come on man. You know the foremost reason is because corporations realized that AI as-is now can replace shitloads of data-type jobs. The interest rates just help justify the mass execution of workers.
I agree it sounds plausible, but I wanted to know if there's anything to substantiate it beyond what some random person says online. Like
for example. The only evidence I saw in OP's twitter post was a picture of a reddit post going "of course this is the case".
The employees are saying the remaining translators are just overseeing/correcting AI output now. That's as much information as we're going to get right now because actively saying you're replacing people with AI is a PR frickup right now.
It's not going to stop any of them from doing it
They're all just going to do it as hard and fast as they can, and then shrug as the allegations come in: why would they care? they'll be making so much more money!
Businesses are generally risk averse and there's a lot of legal and cultural shitflinging going on around AI at the moment. Best to keep it all quiet for as long as possible.
That's what I'm saying though, is that they're going to keep it quiet while also going full-bore ahead with implementing it and doing mass layoffs. So in reality it's going to be like a kid stealing from the fridge: yeah they're being 'quiet' and getting away with it, but everyone knows what they're doing.
Yes, but just remember that those jobs are also not future-proof anymore either, and you will also run into the issue of sudden mass labor pools with limited jobs.
>Yes, but just remember that those jobs are also not future-proof anymore either
For manual creative labor such as this you would need advanced robotics and intelligence that is capable of modeling the world at least as well as humans. Both of these things are many, many decades away. Far enough to say these jobs are future-proof. Most white collars are fricked right now, though.
>Both of these things are many, many decades away.
No, they are objectively not. Less than a decade away, and you're foolish to think that they need to model the world as well as humans in order to do things like weld. They're mimics. They mimic behavior from what's learned, and if you build a mobile welding machine tested and trained on thousands of hours of welding examples with a properly modeled AI, then you will quickly have an excellent mobile welding robot. These are not daydreams, these are technologies being designed and tested as we speak. Did you miss the video where a robot makes coffee after 10 hours of learning? We're trapped in a gigantic leap-frog cycle with this tech, there is no such thing as 'decades away' anymore.
Who is paying you?
Nobody dimwit, because AI is cleaving all the jobs away. That's the point of this conversation, how AI is absolutely going to be used to get rid of countless workers.
Two more decades?
agenda 2030, we do not have two decades, mate.
>we need government to print more money and make our labor less competitive because we can't find good jobs
No, what the government needs to do is massively tax the rich and corporations who are going to use AI, and then pay out everyone a steady UBI and making sure AI is paying to improve the country and the lives of its people.
>the rich ignore tax laws
>we need government to make more tax laws for the rich to ignore
The only way to tax the rich is DEFLATION. The rich have their wealth locked up in hard assets. They get walking around money by taking out loans against overpriced assets to pay off loans against underpriced assets and live off the difference. They can do this FOREVER while getting even richer as long as the value of the currency always goes down. If the value of the currency goes up, they get crunched and have to sell their principle below price. This makes everyone else richer and creates more opportunities for normal people.
>No, they are objectively not.
>be robot welder
>fall over
>explodes
>destroys materials
Get a job limpwrist.
The pathological reddit spacing is a dead giveaway they're doing it for free.
Outside of industrial manufacturing, which is already done by robots because it's all standardized, you cannot really mimic a weld, though. Each one is different. It requires a degree of creativity. And robotics are still laughably limited and cumbersome. It is even debatable if capable autonomous robots are feasible with our current knowledge of material science. The only way manual creative labor can be outsourced to machines in any reasonably short timescale is if civil engineering suddenly becomes standardized (i.e everything is designed and built in a limited number of ways), and whether that is even possible is unknown. For the foreseeable future the closest robots will get to manual labor jobs is perhaps hauling heavy objects.
Or just Mexicans
Those jobs will remain largely future proof because you can't rollback commits IRL. AI will help guide humans who physically implement and semi-automate portions of the robotics manufacturing process, and near fully automate the basics of the design and research processes, while still needing human guidance on composition.
Learn to prompt, code, weld, and 3d print buddy.
The days of only knowing how to do basic CRUD apps, basic artwork, or basic truck driving are behind us.
Creative fusions across fields is all you have left. Robotics is the obvious fusion that will take the lead, but there are also other combo fields that will come to the forefront as well.
>Learn to prompt
Lmao this homie still thinks LLMs are going anywhere but the trash heap.
I agree with you on all of this, but my argument is that it will still not be enough to future-proof in the face of unstable corporations who will seek to minimize human hires to maximize profit. We're going to see mass instability from layoffs in search of that profit, and there will be no clear or open roads of employment left that won't be rapidly-diminishing labor jobs. We're about to face an unprecedented labor crisis, and none of us are going to win the gamble to be one of the robot repairmen.
Then I guess the government can grow a pair of balls and hold a few billionaires at metaphorical gunpoint to either pay to play with new federal tax laws on the rich, or lose the market and face sudden mass legal attacks. If they want this shell game to continue, then they need to fricking pay for the bread and circuses.
>hold a few billionaires at metaphorical gunpoint
Because selective appropriation of assets only leads to political stability and increased liberties for the common man.
With how much overproduction and waste is regularly created in this wolrd I would suspect that more people are allowed to win robot repairman title than you'd think.
The actual problem would probably be in finding people who are broadly skilled enough to work on robots. Most people are skilled in one area, framework, or technology. Creative generalists will command high salaries for knowing how to best compose fine tuned prompt results and also knowing exactly where to not trust use of LLMs during the composition process.
>The actual problem would probably be in finding people who are broadly skilled enough to work on robots
Like alot of shit nowadays, the vast majority of "technicians" will merely follow the directions of either a program or an actual technician whose sole job is to diagnose issues.
Going by the lack of paid ads lately I'm guessing it's more to do with interest rates, but they're going to sell it on the AI narrative because that makes them look less incompetent. They already have enough quality problems with their materials. The fact that they're putting AI gains into cutting costs rather than courseware improvements kind of tells you where they're at.
>The fact that they're putting AI gains into cutting costs rather than courseware improvements kind of tells you where they're at.
It tells you where *every* corporation is at now. They don't want to improve. They don't even want to sell a product: they hate that. What they want is their Number to get Bigger, so they have the High Score and the most dollars. AI promises a very High Score, so every waking moment from now on is going to go towards investing in AI and implementing it to become free labor that doesn't have to be paid like a human. This will give them the Biggest Number.
I just took a huge shit reading this thread on the shitter but it feels like there is more shit to push out. seems like I'm a little constipated, hmmm...
Good morning, sir
this is contractor work. this would be different story if this was full time TAXED employee.
And why does them being taxed matter?
>thinks contractors don't pay taxes
I swear BOT is nothing but crypto morons that have never worked a single day in their life now.
No bro you don't get it contractors just don't report their income
Unless if your talking about contracting to individual people, a business is required to file both a w9 and a 1099 with the IRS.
For any business larger than a mom and pop, it's advantageous for them to file these forms because now they are able to write off whatever they paid you from their taxable income.
So if your a tech contactor working for any medium or larger business, it doesn't matter if you willingly report your income or not, the IRS knows it was there and at worst you could be charged for tax fraud if you try to hide it
I was agreeing with you and was being facetious, sorry. I'm so contracting on the side
prostitues dont pay taxes. neither do onlyfans prostitutes.
I don't care about localizalators
Based.
AI will translate into top 50 languages of the world with ease all the video games and anime Japan produces.
Imagine the income.
GPT says because it is superior and doesn't even know who you are.
If LLM are good enough at translating between foreign languages for Duolingo, why wouldn't I just learn from an LLM instead of Duolingo?
Because LLMs are very good at passing a sniff test and very bad at being correct.
Wrong question bucko. Hand over the subscription money.
You can. But you won't have the structured progression, example sentences to learn from and, etc.. LLMs also don't do well at remembering right now so tracking progress will be hard.
But I think you are right in general on the trajectory of things. Maybe you won't be able to learn just using chatgpt alone, but I'm sure duolingo is also shitting its pants because it's now much easier to build such learning apps on top of or using LLMs.
Duolingo has always been shit so no one will probably notice.
Translating is a nonsense job, most people who aren't mentally handicapped are fluent in 2 or 3 languages at least
Duolingo is dead.
People will learn robotics translator vs any humankind, just skip duolingo and learn translate native to target language in ChatGPT4.
Can't wait till it happens anime troonlaters and as a bonus I'll be making my own subs.
Its comical that these techies are still all unapologetic lefties that buy into these distractions like "Insurrection" "Systemic Racism" "Fascism" and whatever boogeyman the establishment left uses to pacify them but ignore the real problem that will harm them irreparably as in Immigration, AI and Black Violence in cities.
The people who actually ignore or even advocate for immigration and shit think they can avoid it for as long as their miserable lives exist.
and thats what is so funny, these smug techies all thought that it would be the "magachuds" that would have their jobs replaced first but it was them and anyone with any experience with AI knew these tech jobs would be the first ones to go.
Next are diagnostic medical professionals.
You scoff, but I'm worried what will happen when all these unemployed people start flooding the trades.
nothing.
The real thing people should be worried about are the 300k illegal aliens that cross the border into the US every month. They can and are being paid under the table and will continue to depress wages.
I'm not worried about that because the solution is known and simple. Things just aren't bad enough yet for people to care. But the displaced workers trying to come into welding will be unresolvable.
>the solution is known and simple
what deportation?
Do you not understand how the abuse of the asylum system works? It takes at least 5 years to get a court hearing to determine if someone is able to seek asylum and when Maria from Caracas is here in this country and has a child she gets to stay.
Border security.
won't matter.
They use the asylum system. You can have all the security you want and it won't change the problem.
It also doesn't deal with the millions already here.
Displaced tech morons aren't going to pick up a welding torch because it won't pay enough fast enough to keep the house or stop their prostitute wife from leaving with the kids. I've seen this play out in Florida with Space Center employees for generations. They're going to go on welfare and kill themselves with substance abuse.
Unfortunately the only way to get rid of illegals is falling wages and grass roots persecution. The government won't do it for you.
tech tards couldn't handle welding. Too hands on for them.
They'll do what all lefties do and get a job at starbucks and try and unionize it.
That's stuff that management and PR cares about. I'm worried about making enough money in 10 years to retire somewhere far away.
That's a problem for the next generation to deal with.
it's happening now.
Don't care. They should find a real job.
99% of white collar jobs will be completely gone forever in 5 years, all that there will be left is government "jobs" that only exist to pay political favors.
>im irreplaceable AI will nev-ACK!
Reminder that if you have a job and you are reading this, you will be replaced by artificial intelligence.
God I hope so. I just want to NEET in a UBI pod. Working is miserable and the hope that AI will destroy everything around me keeps me breathing
translator is already a bullshit job
you're supposed to learn a language to impregnate foreign pussy
duolingo is probably one of the worst service to learn a language, not a big loss.
For me is the story of the two old gay men.
based they shoved gay shit into latin they deserve to be replaced