Ai can now distinguish between sex differences in the human brain.
DR chud says “These models worked really well because we successfully separated brain patterns between sexes,” Menon said. “That tells me that overlooking sex differences in brain organization could lead us to miss key factors underlying neuropsychiatric disorders.”
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https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2024/02/men-women-brain-organization-patterns.html
what a shit article
TLDR:
Ah yes we found differences in the 2 sex's brains. Yes the hotspots are different. Men and women react differently. This can help us investigate further. Thanks AI!
It's a hit piece so the researchers can say they're doing something but nothing was done.
What are the differences? what are the implications of the different brain patterns? what's the conclusion? Men and women are different and have different hormones and ways of thinking? wow so groundbreaking like that wasn't already known
What you're missing is that being raised as a female or as a male will structure your brain differently, independently of your hormones or genetics. It's a social construction, due to patriarchal structures. If a scientific study were to do the same on people who have a PTSD from their childhood, they would have the same brain patterns that people without PTSD wouldn't have, and this wouldn't have anything to do with genetics.
Brain is just like muscles. Can't a female have more muscles than most males? Testosterone may play a role in how easy it is to grow them, but it's not the only thing that matters. Your alimentation, your training are much more likely to determine how much muscles you have, and they're not induced by genetics or hormones.
This could not have anything to do with hormones, such as ostrogens. Trans people are people who, from their childhood, they never felt like the gender they were assigned to. So when they're raised, they will usually refuse to conform to what's expected from their gender norm, and therefore their brain will be constructed differently, and closer to the brain patterns found in females for MTF and males for FTM, even before any hormonal therapy.
>What you're missing is that being raised as a female or as a male will structure your brain differently
Lies. There is zero evidence to support this. The only experiment ever done for this was Dr Money's and it ended proving his hypothesis wrong. All other data and real-world observations (namely from children who are abused/raised as another sex due to cultural things) point that they end up developing normally and don't become troons.
>independently of your hormones or genetics
Hormones regulate the function and development of organs, including the brain. It's ludicrous to assume they don't affect brain development.
>It's a social construction, due to patriarchal structures
Irrelevant to the discussion. Being a social construction only means that a concept or the individual's perception of reality is shaped by the society he inhabits. It doesn't mean that social constructions are inherently decoupled from the real underlying properties of the object or structure; nor does it mean that the object of structure doesn't actually exist outside of society's perception.
In other words, you're full of shit.
>If a scientific study were to do the same on people who have a PTSD from their childhood, they would have the same brain patterns that people without PTSD wouldn't have
Yes, because stress shapes the brain.
>Brain is just like muscles. Can't a female have more muscles than most males?
No, she can't. The top 10 % women don't have the same muscle mass as the average man.
>Trans people are people who, from their childhood, they never felt like the gender they were assigned to
1. Gender is observed, not assigned.
2. Irrelevant. The vast majority of trans individuals nowadays don't present gender dysphoria from a young age. It manifests suddenly during their teens/early adulthood. It's also highly correlated with heavy social media use.
John Money's experiment was a perfect example precisely of why you morons are wrong. David was literally assigned female at birth and when raised as such hated it and wanted to be a man instead. The takeaway you people seem to have gotten is "don't let boys be girls" but you do realize that's not exactly what happened, right? Preventing people from transitioning will kill them. This is what "41%" is about. I think part of the big hangup is that you have weird beliefs and attitudes towards women in general; if David were somehow surgically given a penis at birth and raised a male I don't think you would have the same idiot opinion. Doesn't matter because Dr Money did not invent any of this gender shit Judith Butler was talking about it in the 70s
Certainly not because of the knowledge of having been maimed at birth and then made into a freakshow experiment by a pedophile, no no
>Preventing people from transitioning will kill them.
That's a good thing I support the eugenics of the mentally ill
>Preventing people from transitioning will kill them.
Nobody cares
>Money’s moronic abuse actually proves trannies are real!
lol, so trannies are mentally ill?
>Money claims (without any evidence) that sex and his definition of gender are separate things
>to prove gender has no biological basis, he raises a boy as a girl
>he presents boyish behavior his entire life
>he refuses to be a girl
>eventually he's told that his entire life is a lie. He was maimed at birth and raised as a girl as part of an experiment he didn't want to be a part of
>his brother becomes paranoid and depressed once he realizes his entire life was a lie, that his parents and doctors lied to both of them their entire lives
>he kills himself
>David spends the rest of his life blaming himself for his brother's death
>David realizes the entire psychiatric and medical fields twisted his story and pretends that Money was right all along
>David becomes depressed and kills himself
>decades later troons twist his story to somehow prove that gender is a "le social construct" and its assigned at birth even though his entire story proves otherwise
Frick you. You don't care about David's suffering and also you actually like when trannies kill themselves because you see them as martyrs and you use that to fuel your delusions.
You're a demon.
>You're a demon.
You know I'm really starting to think this too and that the Christians might be right
Realizing that was one of the biggest blackpills of my life.
If the Christians are right about that then they are right about Jesus and salvation. Should be the biggest white pill of your life
Jesus was a real historical figure that no historian is disputing. The resurrection had 500 eyewitness testimonies. There are 20,000 recovered manuscripts of the New Testament (#1 most found manuscript) with a 99% accuracy across the texts across 3 languages (The Illiad is #2 most recovered with 697). People, with the help of demonic thinking, have been trying to poke holes in it (such as the staff vs no staff contradiction) so we ignore the 99% of incontrovertible truth in it, when those issues are explainable by the fact that the world is complicated and Jesus / God are capable of changing their mind or adjusting the plan to fulfill the prophecies and bring order to reality.
God is real. Jesus is real. Lucifer is real. Lucifer is the god of this world. The Father of the Messiah is the God of heaven. Jesus is the Son of God and is precisely what God would be like if he was distilled down into human form from his infinitely complex being relative to us.
I thought it was all nonsense until I looked into the historical accuracy of it. It's all real. We are experiencing a simulation or some sort of spiritual videogame created by God that is a veil over the "real" world. There's so much more that we don't understand and won't until the rapture.
based evangelist, thank you for spreading the word anon
people used to believe in witches, too
people used to believe in lots of things
>until the rapture
that shit is not even biblical
you're a phony
What the Christians don't know is that they're either unwillingly or unknowingly in cahoots with the same ~~*crowd*~~
It's no coincidence that Korea is the most pozzed feminazi East Asian country and the most Christian East Asian country. Wokeism is just Secular Christianity.
>f David were somehow surgically given a penis at birth
The dude was born with a penis, you dingbat. It got rekd during circumcision and that's why the deranged israelite Money trooned him out.
>Trans people are people who, from their childhood, they never felt like the gender they were assigned to.
Or at least never since they installed Discord
t. I'm trans btw
How can wearing dresses fricking change the structure of your brain? Much less in a way consistent among all people.
>What you're missing is that being raised as a female or as a male will structure your brain differently, independently of your hormones or genetics.
[citation needed]
>What you're missing is that being raised as af emale or as a male will structure your brain differently, independently of your hormones or genetics. It's a social construction, due to patriarchal structures.
Literal pedo John Money's opinion
the issue with Money's experiment is that you can't truly know if David wanted to be a man because it was his true mental desire, irrespective to biological sex, or because he wanted to be a man because of his biological sex, irrespective to the way he was raised.
It sure confirms that you can't deny what your unconscious mind truly wants you to be, but in the end, what causes your mind to come to that conclusion is rather unknown if it is a completely arbitrary choice from the Id, involuntary to the Ego or if it is or can be shaped by either the environment or biology.
Looking at it from the contemporary scientific point of view and psychological understanding, the whole experiment proves nothing and just served to kill an entire family.
David presented behavioral issues and gender dysphoria since a young age. If Money's moronic and unsubstantiated claims were true the probability of David showing that would be the same as the real women's population (very low.)
Then there's observational data from boys raised as girls due to cultural issues or neglect: they all grow up and decide to become men. The amount of them that decide to be women is statistically insignificant.
The women that presented as men to do men roles like studying back in the day didn't troon out either.
Money was full of shit and the entire psychology and medical fields have been pretending he was right for decades.
>Money was full of shit and the entire psychology and medical fields have been pretending he was right for decades.
yeah, I reached the same conclusion the moment I first heard of his experiment back in Law School.
>the issue with Money's experiment is that you can't truly know if David wanted to be a man because it was his true mental desire, irrespective to biological sex, or because he wanted to be a man because of his biological sex, irrespective to the way he was raised.
You're mentally ill. The guy wanted to be a man because he was a man. A genitally mutilated man, molested his entire childhood by israeli pedos, but still a man.
Still at it beyond the veil ol' Johhny boy?
>Brain is just like muscles.
It really isn't.
>independently of your hormones or genetics
independently of your hormones or genetics
>independently of your hormones or genetics
independently of your hormones or genetics
>independently of your hormones or genetics
independently of your hormones or genetics
>independently of your hormones or genetics
Nice "science" you got there, I hope you have verifiable falsifiable reproducible proofs for that claim.
>What you're missing is that being raised as a female or as a male will structure your brain differently
And what you missed was that when John Money tried to force a boy to be raised a girl he ENDED UP FRICKING KILLING HIMSELF
Half of troons try to kill themselves after having been trooned out. That's not news.
Anyone who defends a procedure with a 41% mortality rate simply cannot be taken seriously.
citation needed
Common knowledge.
> a female have more muscles than most males?
No lol, not without steroids. Even then she'll probably be weaker than most. moronic c**t.
Muh "they were socially conditioned" bullshit
These tests were done during puberty anon, when both girls and boys were in different stages of development(as women grow faster and mature faster than men).
There's charts that shows results of college aged men and women and it shows almost no difference between the intelligence of men and women(maybe men having 1 to 2 points higher than women on average).
>asking to be spoonfed
Here Black person
http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/25/average-iq-of-students-by-college-major-and-gender-ratio/
>"This brings up an interesting question of how valuable the SAT is as a standardized test across all majors, if a higher SAT score is really only indicating that the student is better at solving quantitative/analytical problems. Not all majors require a high analytical aptitude, after all."
Lol, the entire article is the excuse of "Women have le higher emotional intelligence" but spread out.
You know this was made to save face because of his previous study which pic related is from.
>"After all the controversy that arose after I posted my breakdown of college majors by gender last week, I promised myself I'd stay away from controversial gender-related topics for a while."
>disproves the sexist gap in cs degrees
this image is worth its weight in bitcoin
>maybe men having 1 to 2 points higher than women on average
Women could as well have more points on average, but if males have significantly greater variability then they will be dominating on the extremes. Consider the first graph.
yes, there's more moron men than women, but there's also more genius men than women, since the curve is slightly flatter for men
That's exactly what I'm saying m8.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis
Turd flinging monkey did do an episode on this. Basically, no women aren't in average smarter than men and nor men aren't on average showing great variance.
These studies are conducted on pubescents, who despite being the same age are do in different biological stages of maturity(ie a 14 year old boy is still a 14 year old boy but a 14 years old girl is a 15-16 year old boy in biological maturity).
He then provided studies that were conducted on college aged students that showed men and women showed almost the same variance and in average men being slightly smarter than women.
Link to the video btw
https://archive.org/details/BitChute-EiY9w951uSg
Ok, let's entertain this thought.
If puberty influences brain development, then puberty blockers would delay and modify brain development. That means, all differences between troon brains and normal brains aew caused by the hormonal treatments they undergo. That means, hormones do influence brain development.
Did anyone say they didn't? I thought it was already well accepted?
>Turd flinging monkey did do an episode on this. Basically, no women aren't in average smarter than men and nor men aren't on average showing great variance.
0 reading comprehension.
You have no idea what the conversation is even about.
Men routinely score 1-4 points higher IQ on average than women.
That is not a small amount - that difference combined with the broader extent of the male population, results in - as this image shows
, several times more men on the higher end of the IQ curve than women. There are about 3.5x more men with an IQ of 130 than women with an IQ of 130. There are 2x fewer men with an IQ of 70 than women with an IQ of 70.
IQ is bullshit, it has been invented by rich people to justify that their children have "more potential" than others, and to keep them rich, to keep unjust inequalities in place. It has also been used as a racism and misogynistic tool, like you do right now, but this number means nothing.
>Honestly, I have no idea what the frick you're trying to say here. But doesn't the article clearly state that there are differences in two categories of brains? What is your point in bringing up such an utterly deranged study? And how are you going to confirm your bold claim of "absolutely no genetic correlation"
There could be a genetic correlation, but that's not what OP's study said. You cannot prove that there is a genetic correlation.
>Brain is just like muscles...
>I still have no idea where you're going with this. I don't know anything about dietary effects working out the brain or if testosterone is even a factor for a "stronger" brain. You still have yet to tell anyone how you're going to confirm your bold claim.
That's not what I meant, I don't think testosterone have any effect on the brain's capacities or intelligence. It seems complicated to determine what's the role of one single hormone is, as we don't even fully understand how the brain works.
>This could not have anything to do with hormones
>So what does it have to do with? Spoon feed us morons oh enlightened one.
Education? Being raised as a female or a male.
I wasn't rich but was diagnosed with an IQ of 340
There are scientific evidence that rich kids are much much more likely to have a higher IQ, but this doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. But these tests cost a lot of money, so it's less likely to be tested as a poor child.
Prove me wrong with sources please, I'm lazy.
>I don't think testosterone have any effect on the brain's capacities or intelligence
post degree and research papers substantiating your opinion, doc
I can't believe the Juden got me to give her a ~~*You*~~
>What you're missing is that being raised as a female or as a male will structure your brain differently, independently of your hormones or genetics
Being raised as a mathematician will structure your brain differently, independently of your hormones or genetics.
>If a scientific study were to do the same on people who have brain PTSD...
Honestly, I have no idea what the frick you're trying to say here. But doesn't the article clearly state that there are differences in two categories of brains? What is your point in bringing up such an utterly deranged study? And how are you going to confirm your bold claim of "absolutely no genetic correlation"
>Brain is just like muscles...
I still have no idea where you're going with this. I don't know anything about dietary effects working out the brain or if testosterone is even a factor for a "stronger" brain. You still have yet to tell anyone how you're going to confirm your bold claim.
>This could not have anything to do with hormones
So what does it have to do with? Spoon feed us morons oh enlightened one.
b8/8 come see me after class
I am genuinely one dumb motherfricker, but c**ts like you really do make me feel smart. Are you braindead?
The water-level task is one of the most easily replicable experiments in psychology, and consistently splits results based on physical sex.
Unless you want to argue that social pressures are keeping women from ever seeing glasses of water.
what about being raised by only women?
had only a mother and sisters, forced to do laundry and fold lady clothes my whole life, but im still a guy and not gay.
Did they test it on transwomen and what results does it give for them? What about after HRT? I must know if the chuddies are right or wrong
estrogen will change brain structure slightly, theres a couple of studies on this topic but only after taking E, I would assume test for ftms would do similar things
>estrogen will change brain structure slightly
I remember reading some headline saying guys who took hormones had irreparable damage to their IQ.
Yes, it turns them into women.
A male brain is completely different from a woman's brain. The whole structure is different, the synaptic density is different, it's connected to all sorts of shit in the endocrine system that doesn't even exist in the other. A male brain can never even think a woman's thoughts, because the brains are so different. Just because some weirdo measure brain responses and find that homos and trannies experience attraction when seeing benis just like women doesn't mean your brain is somehow actually similar to a woman's. Any pathological exam of structure, cells etc. would instantly tell anyone categorically you have a man's brain in your female (male) body.
Do people with Complete androgen insensitivity syndrome have male or female brains?
Male.
Then why do they behave like females and are very rarely trans
Because men with low testosterone become effeminate, but they are still men.
Are there any measurable brain differences between them and women? Show me some studies
Doesn't seem to be, but they're so incredibly rare that there would be hard to build any statistics with a reasonable sample size in the first place. Better to just discount those people in a discussion about men and women. They are biological men, however, so obviously their brain structure will be male.
So their brain is male, and yet they act, think and live as females in every conceivable way? Those brain differences must be pretty insignificant then.
Being able to pee standing up and not get wet is not "living as a female in every conceivable way".
Well, they can't actually think like women, not having the brain structure of an actual woman. But sure, they can "live" as a woman in the purely extrinsic sense, I guess. Obviously they can't reproduce and have children or do anything else a real woman can. But they can wear nailpolish and dresses, if that's what you mean?
Is amazing how many of these trannied think superficially of what is a woman. Allways trying to skin walk as porn stars
There also are normal ones, but you don't notice them
>There also are normal ones, but you don't notice them
We notice ALL of you, passing is a myth
t. clocks cishons
>depending on your education
Are you talking about life experiences?
No such thing as a normal troony. We notice them. We were just polite enough not to laugh at them
>doesn't mean your brain is somehow actually similar to a woman's.
You started off good, but your conclusion is dumb. There are men with gynecomastia or other conditions that makes their bodies go haywire and develop female characteristics or no male characteristics (like people with alpha 5 reductase deficiency developing a clit-like micropenis). Why would the brain be an exception from this, and why would some men not develop brains that are closer (but not identical) to women's? Of course these cases are not the norm, they're mutations, usually harmful to the host, but if someone says the earth is flat, the appropriate reaction is not to claim that it's actually hyper-cube shaped with a hollow core. Homosexuality, left-handedness, situs invertus, aphantasia folks who can't rotate an apple in their minds, there's all sorts of mutants out there that don't have a reason to exist, but we shouldn't pretend they don't.
>and why would some men not develop brains that are closer (but not identical) to women's?
Because a man and a woman's brain are two completely different biological structures, down to the cellular levels, up to different structure, synaptic density, connections and so on. Your question is like
>why can't a dog just be a cat?
>Because a man and a woman's brain are two completely different biological structures
Just like you and a Black person are completely different biological structures, yet for some reason you still react like a dumb gorilla Black person who can't read despite being white. Read my fricking post again, nobody is saying "hurr why can't male be female?" I'm saying your cells have the biological information for being both male and female available at conception and your body can frick you up and make you more female-like but not completely female. Also your analogy is moronic because there are cat-like dogs and there are dog-like cats.
Sure, a cat can be a bit dog-like. It's still a cat, though.
I mean, agreed. Just like Michael Jackson was still an african american, trannies are still biologically male at the end of the day, but they're castrated males with feminized brains. (i.e. smaller size of the inferior-parietal lobule which is usually larger on men but smaller on women, or other such changes) What I disagree with is the idea that even though two structures are different, they can't be more or less similar depending on circumstances, like how dolphins are similar with sharks despite being mammals. Here, have a troony cat.
>What I disagree with is the idea that even though two structures are different, they can't be more or less similar depending on circumstances
Well, they can't. They can be abnormal in their own variance, but they can't actually be "similar" to the other. Anyone doing an autopsy on the most "fembrained" male brain imaginable would still be able to instantly determine that the subject in question is a male brain.
>a mammal cannot be like a fish to some degree, more so than other mammals
>a male brain cannot be like a female brain to some degree more so than other male brains
I'm sorry you had to find this out now but your brain is literally too feminized to hold an argument properly, you just keep repeating the same line like an NPC golem or bot without even reading what the other party says. Have a good day sir, I mean ma'am.
Correct. I don't really read your troon drivel anymore, I just hear
>reeeeeeeeeeeee I can be wamen too
Which you can't.
Why can't you just have some fricking manners and be polite enough to use peoples pronouns? It costs you nothing
I don't like lying, in my experience lies compound and create all sorts of complications down the line.
>Why don't you play pretend with me? How dare you, NAZIIIIII REEEE
Because I am not supporting mental illness and your israeli propaganda.
>but only after taking E
Not true
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/
Tldr; mtfs do have more feminized brains on average but they skewing doesn't to very far
but the skewing doesn't go very far*
sorry I'm phoneposting
Anyone who's looked into this will be able to conclude that trannies would have been ordinary tomboys and tomgirls if not for humans' obsession with gender as a concept. Gender dysphoria obviously isn't an inherent part of the human condition. It's induced. No other animal has shown any signs of gender dysphoria, including the ones which demonstrate self-awareness and theory of mind.
Pretty much.
>I'm a man but I am not into watching sportsball or heavy drinking.
>Surely that means I am a woman!
Their problem isn't gender dysphoria, their problem is that they are morons who think they need to be carbon copies of each other.
Trannies do show as fundamentally male but feminised
Chuddies are actually right and wrong in either case. Because male brains being different from female brains is a huge antifeminist win, and them being the same is a huge antitrans win.
Do you really need to ask? Most transwomen either have hobbies that are most common in autistic men like coding or they have hobbies that are most common in flamboyant gays like theater. They think and act like men.
Basically every time they do those kinds of tests the results are that both MtFs and FtMs are men.
Unfortunately this upsets absolutely everyone so it gets swept under the rug and n=6 garbage gets published instead to pretend transsexuality is bidirectional.
there is no female or male brain. that study should say estrogen vs testosterone brain. each hormone plays a huge role in how brain DEVELOPS. no you cannot simply start taking the other hormones and expect a change.
well the pink and blues are not going to like this one bit
What if (in the absence of hormone meds) they show patterns more similar to their opposite sex? Wouldn't they feel vindicated?
they would, but they don't.
haven't they been saying this for decades, as the reason why troonyism is okay?
man with woman brain?
If you spent any amount of time interacting with trannies you would know that they very clearly have male brain.
>aggresive
>hyper-promiscuous
>into male hobbies
>socially inept
That's because they have male brains.
>Stanford
>California
Something something troony ideology being pushed for certain. Don't trust a single thing.
>AI can hallucinate when making images
>AI can hallucinate when writing code
>AI can hallucinate when making movies
>AI can hallucinate when reading off of fricking Wikipedia
>AI can be trusted as 100% scripture when processing medical information related to the human brain
Do you seriously think they had a fricking LLM running the analysis here?
AI is used as a buzz term for any type of statistical computing these days they're not related in any meaningful way.
AI is used every time it involves self-learning algorithm. If they made algorithm that then gets trained on some data, it is AI. If it is all hand coded, it is not AI.
It's arbitrary where you draw that line though. Linear regression is a learning algorithm but it's something you can do by hand. In the end of the day it's all just statistics
there are tons of "AI" algorithms, the problems you mentioned are all specific to LLMs and NNs
there are much simpler and way more effective algorithms to do what OP's image does
it's the other way around moron, hand coding a list of every possible input and response is still ""AI"" but machine learning and self inferrential algorothms are a subset.
Troons btfo and David the israelite and John ~~*money*~~ burning in Hell still never to be vindicated (because troonism is fundamentally flawed).
I for one am excited to see phrenology coming back it makes midwit biology majors seethe.
>AI can be trusted as 100% scripture when processing medical information related to the human brain
Yes, and I'm tired of pretending it can't be.
I'm no AI fanatic but I trust a statistical model more than I trust some bullshit made up by a mentally ill crossdresser.
>DR chud
Nice try op
Underrated (im a massive sexist)
I don't understand why people are so scared to admit that male and female brains are different.
What people are scared to admit is that the main difference is simply size. Men have more brain than women, which is why they are more intelligent.
Interesting. Well males with famale brains has been been discovered before, so this this is more an automation of the analysis.
This nothing to do with being trans though. Sorry to those of you who wanted to justify it. HRT is and will always be a bad therapy. and only seem to work at times since our brain is so adaptable.
Go beyond gender and rock that female organization patters as a human.
>Well males with famale brains has been been discovered before
Literally impossible. Where would the part that connects to the endocrine system that regulates uterine functions go? A female brain couldn't even survive in a male body.
>what is a woman
>nobody knows
>what is a womans brain
>identifiable through logical algorithms
it can only get better I guess
okay but how about neurological differences between something more challenging
how about people who have a family and a career for 30 years, then one day decide to knife a stranger and eat their skin. Wouldn't it be awesome if there were markers to identify those kinds of brains
So you could do what, exactly? Imprison them on suspicion? Put them under surveillance? Send them to therapy that won't do anything?
save lives perhaps
remember when that was cool and trendy
Who's life exactly will that save?
what does that matter, a life is a life
>remember when people were gullible and naive and we could get them to support invading other countries for oil to SAVE DA CHIRRUN?
Frick off
>artificial intelligence model
thanks, i hate it.
new journo buzzword has been unlocked.
Autogynophiles show male brains but HSTS show female brains.
The one measurable difference between them was one that is also measured in homosexual vs hetero men, while differences relating to body ownership were shared between the two
CAIS don't have a penis, what are you talking about?
I mean in terms of personality.
>I mean in terms of personality.
Well, like I said, there are no real studies on people with this developmental disease, because they're so incredibly rare. I don't know anything about their personality in general and neither do you.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12710824/
A sample size of 22 people isn't enough for a proper statistical study. That's an opinion at best, pseudoscience at worst (if you think the results of that study are scientific.) This is what the replication crisis was about, a problem plaguing modern psychology.
And yet you are very confident that they are "male brained".
They have male biological genetics, XY chromosomes, so yes, they have male brains. What does it matter anyways, they are people with a disease.
>confuses between phenotype and genotype
>but it doesn't matter anyway because it goes against my opinion
A male body can't produce a female brain, that wouldn't be a viable life-form.
[citation needed]
First you have to explain how one single organ can have a different chromosomal set than everything else in the organism.
You're again confusing phenotype with genotype.
Also, chimerism does exist in humans.
>Also, chimerism does exist in humans.
Only as non-viable mutations, severe developmental disorders.
https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/case-lydia-fairchild-and-her-chimerism-2002
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/216874877_Dual-gender_macrochimeric_tissue_discordance_is_predicted_to_be_a_significant_cause_of_human_homosexuality_and_transgenderism
I ask for organs and you give me tissue.
Cancer is tissue, you realize that correct?
Is prostate cancer now proof of a third gender?
Nice reading comprehension bro
Why would you think some random homo's unproven hypothesis is an argument of some sort?
I could say the same thing about your male brain hypothesis. There are no universally proven behavioral or cognitive differences.
It's not a hypothesis, male and female brains are completely different. They are structured differently, they have different synaptic densities, they are wired to things in the body that doesn't exist in the other sex. There is no way to confuse the two in any way except through wilful obfuscation of reality. That male and female brains are fundamentally different down to the smallest cell is just a biological objective fact that can be rigorously proven conclusively.
Repeating the same things doesn't make them any more true either.
Well, it's just a biological fact that's not disputed by anyone (sane.)
>everything is a fact except for cases where it's not true, but those are rare and don't count, my model is perfect
You can dissect a male and female brain and observe the difference in structure, synaptic density, that it's connected to parts that don't exist in the other body etc. This has been done many times. It's not disputed at all.
Do you have a link to such an experiment
Medschool
If you had paid more attention in med school you would have noticed the "tend to" in "tend to have X differences"
That male and female brains connect to different things that don't exist in the other body isn't something it "tends" to do. It's just biological reality, go 41% yourself.
>b- but you have no ovaries, NOT A REAL WOMAN, DIE!!!
You were winning the argument until that post, what are you doing buddy?
Just returning the 41% meme with equally dumb shit
>delusional freak denies objective reality
>u were winning
lol
Not only do you have no ovaries, you don't even have the parts in your brain that connects to the female endocrine system which control the ovaries you don't have. This is because you have a male brain in a male body, down to every single male cell with it's male XY chromosomes. Simple as that.
You still haven't clarified how that is related to a condition where the body map of the amygdala is that of the opposite sex
>where the body map of the amygdala is that of the opposite sex
It's not, it's slightly more towards the opposite sex than the average for the sex, but still completely different. Try to at least keep track of your own pseudoscience.
>completely different
There are trannies on that plot which lie outside the male results and in the average female size
And their brains are still fully male.
Sure, whatever that means
Says the Black person that doesn’t know what an organ is.
>here's some rando's hypothesis
>am I wamen now?
jej
I’m not confusing anything. You’re confusing the realities of how genotype and phenotype manifest in humans.
>chimerism
Not relevant to my question. You need to show that it’s possible for one organ to have a different chromosomal set than every other organ in that individual.
This insistence on gendering the brain is ridiculous. Next you’re going to start talking about your soul.
The only thing you're doing by trying to force the issue with paid for pseudoscientific studies, is that people stop respecting the corrupted institutions you get to do this shit. You will never be a real woman, and you just have to live with that.
Well BOT?
Isn't this the troony who used real photos of toddlers to draw porn?
Yep. They aren't interested in your children though
Just being seen as one
Acting like one
Being around child
Grooming children
Teaching children sex Ed
Drawing pictures of children
How come they're always demanding to read books to kids, why never the elderly, sick or disabled?
We all know why but we aren't allowed to say it outloud
it depends on what you mean by "transition"
parents have a legal duty of care over their children. if the child wanted to harm themselves the parents could go to jail if they assisted in the childs self harm wishes.
In a decade from now will we see young adults bringing lawsuits against the state and parents for allowing them to decide to transition when they were uneducated, uniformed, highly impressionable children.
The only defence trans people have against this argument is usually that those kids don't exist, that every kid who transitions is a success. Well maybe it's too soon to tell. We do know that trans people are vastly overepresented in suicide statistics. Maybe that is the regret manifesting itself.
>In a decade from now
We have to get rid of the laws containing the phrase "gender identity and expression" first. Replace it with "verifiable clinical diagnosis of transsexualism" if you must, but right now even doctors must abide by anti-discrimination law and so they have no choice but to give their patients what they say they want.
AND the government has to STOP compelling parents to allow their children to go through HRT. You can't really sue someone for doing something family court compelled them to even if they knew it was wrong.
We need to first ban these anti- discrimination laws.
Yes, totally a passable woman.
Tbh, that image is right though. If your age is not on the clock, then you can have sex alright.
That's right! Age of consent should be 25!
Yeah, if you want people to turn in to critical coomers that is.
Interesting map, later people have sex, greater the sexual frustration among the general populace grows. While developed countries like Japan and China copes with porn shitholes like India and Indonesia turns to rape and harassment.
It should be noted that Zoomers are the most sex depraved generation while also being the most sex deprived generation.
Man, from the way people brag about it you'd think all values in the table there should be two years lower than they currently are.
I think in general for women, it's usually 1-2 years younger.
>boys lie about having sex all the time
>there's a lot of pressure nowadays for girls to lie as well
>homos actually have sex for the first time when they're around 11 years old (on average). They lie about this by claiming it was later in life
Self-reported sexual encounters are just as useless as self-reported penis size or masturbation frequency. Everybody lies.
A tendency towards lying about having sex earlier would also indicate a tendency towards most people having sex early. You wouldn't feel the need to lie if everyone else were as dry as you as seen in the case with pajeets and chinks.
Not necessarily. It merely means that there is a stigma about being a virgin and having sex earlier is seen as something good.
Most parents lie about the Tooth Fairy, that doesn't point towards fairies being real.
Tooth fairy and having sex are completely two different stuff. Parents don't genuinely want tooth fairy to exist, people lying about having sex do want to.
This comparison is stupid.
There wouldn't be a widespread stigma against being a virgin if at least a plurality of people had sex.
Also that chart isn't even that over blown to begin with. As some anon said, it seemed 2 years older than what people say when they had sex.
Just like self-reported penis size. Any man could say "yes, I have a 29 inch penis" but that would be ridiculous and unbelievable, so they inflate it by claiming 6 or 7 inches instead of the average that is 5. Think back to your own middle school days. Nobody believed the 14-year old kid who claimed to have sex every weekend with hot lesbian neighbors.
Claiming that you had sex at 15-16 is believable and doesn't raise any suspicions, since everyone thinks that's the normal age. It's as simple as that.
Only Nordic countries state they had sex that young and it seems consistent with the more open nature of sex in Nordic nations.
Other countries that states that low are "liberal" third world shitholes such as Latin America or Eastern Europe. Its not hard to believe favela Black folk or polish homosexuals lose virginity at the age of 14-16.
Most other developed nations state their in somewhere in the range of 17-19.
>Most other developed nations state their in somewhere in the range of 17-19
Like for example? Literally only asia still has these taboos in the developed world. Everything else is shitskin cope
Also I'll add that just like a tendency to lie about having sex earlier, there's also a tendency to lie about having sex later, especially in very conservative countries like India and Indonesia where pre marital sex(for both men and women) is looked down upon.
>looked down upon
>in cultures that focus on the family unit
As God intended. Fornication deserves to be shamed everywhere.
Really, people in China lie about having sex later?
I remember watching an old Asian comedy movie which is about a father trying to prevent his son from meeting up with a maid's daughter whom he's fallen in love with because he already arranged a marriage for his son with his friend's daughter and if word got out of him having a lover before would ruin that marriage. I don't know if it was Chinese but definitely east asian.
So yeah they do. Though most young Chinese don't do arranged marriage anymore so it might be different in their case.
Based
Retroactively lock my parents up for their crime of having me at 20 and fricking up my development when they should have been making more money to better raise their kids.
16 or early as the girl can handle is best for babies. u best just die rn senpai
It a simple game of statistics, if 41% is the default assumption, once you increase the transition rate to one above the one of "it was a phase and I grew out of it" you are killing more by wrong transition than saving.
The problem is cranking up the numbers artificially, also due to financial interest, creating a problem where one wasn't present.
Ask /d/ why they are on /d/ and how easy it is to frick up a child's mind.
e.g. watching movie of pic related alone created an own fetish category of "blueberry expansion"
Are you saying we should stop writing such scenes at all because some weird kid might develop a fetish? Plenty of fairy tales with a changeling theme exists before this one and nobody talked about having a fetish of transforming things in the past. Also we got no idea how mentally ill at birth many kids are, it's been shown probability of mental illnesses increases with delayed motherhood and many women of our parents generation had their kids in their 30s and 40s.
Also my hypothesis is that transformation fetish is mostly a sub conscious instinct towards sadism(for those who wants to see people to be transformed) /masochism (for those who wants to see themselves transformed) which are instinctually present in people(maybe 100 years ago you couldn't find transformation fetish porn but you could still find many sadomasochist smut).
Multiple things contribute to fetishes, but, well, lets take that image as an example. I think it would be pretty hard to get yourself to get off more strongly on unnatural things like that, if it wasn't for the ability to see something and then immediately go look up porn of it. But I think that for most people, it's more common to be looking up normal porn and then just run into something really goddamn weird while you're already jacking off.
His point being that human sexuality is malleable, but he kinda picked a weird example since it's more malleable than anyone (and I mean ANYONE) wants to admit, thus the means by which it is shaped are poorly understood.
I strongly see disagree. I had weird fetishes even before I had access to the internet. Most people who don't have fetishes believe it must be due to some childhood influence or internet. In fact, due to the nature of my fetish, I'm mostly looking to furry and troony sites but not even once have I ever fapped to their stuff.
Yeah the way you describe might be one way people develop fetishes but I don't think it's universal, in fact I don't think many of them actually develop avfetish, just become tolerant(just like how I don't mind seeing furty shit being inserted in my fetish but I still rather get off from a human female being subjected to it).
Many of us genuinely had something wrong happening in our head since our birth and it might be a combo of genes and pre-natal conditions.
Well, when I say "while looking up porn" I mean "while experiencing anything in a sexual context" for example tickling fetishes obviously predate the internet but that doesn't mean people are born desitined to like things like that. But since I don't know what you get off on or your whole life's story I can't guess how that happened. I will say that at a certain age anything to do with the opposite sex can seem magically fascinating so "a sexual context" can be much broader than what adults commonly think, and human sexuality is the most malleable when it starts to develop.
But I know for a fact the easy availability of porn doesn't help stop weird fetishes from developing.
>Are you saying we should stop writing such scenes at all because some weird kid might develop a fetish?
It's only an example of how easy the mind is influenced, the context is not sexual, other than a viewer possibly having a first harmless affection to the character and then exposing this character to something odd, creating a connection.
This is different from developing a taste for something at an age you are already consuming pornography.
(An other easy to pin-point fetish to look out for getting much more common in the near future is likely one created by the Venom-movie kissing scene)
In case of the context of general confusion this is relevant as we are not dealing with single scenes in movies, which might create a few oddballs by coincidence, but an organized questioning of the developing sexuality and self-image of children deliberately exposing the children to it.
This will have an impact, help some, but confuse quite a few depending on how those it would help are identified and the subject approached, at this stage we can unfortunately not yet tell if we're hunting mosquitos in the living-room with a fly swatter .. or using a shotgun.
imagine referring to yourself in such a self deprecating way as "cis white male" lmao
>self deprecating
Lol, I belong to the dominant group. Look at the top 10 richest humans in the world, they're "cis white male", exactly like me. What's "self deprecating" about it anon?
>Science is LE BAD, but I have no source to prove you wrong
Ok well I guess I'll continue to have my belief 🙂
You could just say "I'm a white man" but you say "cis white male" lmao. israelites are not white, so most likely you are not white either.
>I belong to the dominant group
>im a cis white male
Referring to yourself as that puts you in the "cuck" category, not the "dominant group" category lmao
>This is wrong. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6204758/
Pseudoscientific cherry-picking. Disregarding the vast differences in structure between male and female brains to myopically focus on some tiny similarities, to come to a biased conclusion.
> Disregarding the vast differences in structure between male and female brains
There’s no real evidence of this. Or rather, there is no evidence that the “gender” of the brain is anything different than the biological sex of the individual.
aka no shit a man has a male brain, he has a male body.
There is no reality where someone can have the wrong brain.
As a genuine question here : what about the exceedingly small intersexed population who were surgically assigned one way or the other, and were raised to that assigned gender? IE PsudoMales raised a female because this was the surgically easier path, Psudomales raised male because this was the easier path, and the various forms of true hermaphodism?
Some presentations of psudo male do basically nothing, and people only find out later in life when they have difficulties trying to conceive children. Other presentations are significant enough that they may be marked as female at birth and basically not know until they never hit puberty. They are genetically male, but will have all external female anatomy, including a veganal canal, though its often shorter and always ends in a blind pouch.
I would be interested to know how these people fit into the patterns, and I think it might be insightful to see how much is a nurture or nature component ( to the best you can as there are just so many other variables).
>This guy's crazy
This guy is the base of all trans bullshit we have today
It would be more accurate to say Magnus Hirschfeld was the base. You know, the guy whose books the nazis burned.
Sigmund Freud is the base of psychology bullshit we have today. Excepted that now it's not bullshit anymore. Freud was dumb and said many dumb things, and now what?
>It really isn't.
But it consumes the same thing in your body, is growing like muscles when you make it work, it's becoming better only on areas you work on and not others like muscles. It's not exactly a muscle, but the more you make some synapses function, the more they will develop, especially during childhood and adolescence. But yes unlike muscles you won't loose your intelligence just by stoping to exercise for a few weeks. Which means it's even harder to rewire stuff that you learned as a child.
Technology?
>thread about actual technology
>it's all talk about trannies
>christcucks smell opportunity and start shilling
trannies are bad
>rápe
Lah-de-dah.
They really can't help themselves, can they.
This is what took much internet porn does to a person.
It's a thread about men and women, of course troons are going to be the majority of posters. And wherever homos are, so are christcucks.
Where do you think you are? It wasn't never about the board's topic. But the unstoppable thoughts about trannies, pointless culture wars topics and most important of all; shit posting.
good morning satan
>implying it wasn't bait from the beginning
go back to /lgbt/ you underage newbie
>this actual scientific study is bait so let me spam my troony obsession or go to the gay board
You must be 18 or older to use this site.
(You), the densest material in the universe.
Birds of a feather.
i always laugh when people try to make it out as a troony vs. christian thing, they're both nutjobs
>they're both nutjobs
Society always had its share of nutjobs. But if you're gonna choose to be a nutjob anyway, better a christian than a troony.
Nah, even if I were to fall for religion nignoggery, I rather choose something like Buddhism or Taoism instead.
>I rather choose something like Buddhism or Taoism instead.
Why?
There's inherit truth in the concept of rebirth. The universe itself is in this cycle.
So what happens after the heat death of the universe?
>thread about actual technology
>it's all talk about trannies
>christcucks smell opportunity and start shilling
Actually transitioning is a form of technology, because it's the application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes. What's more cyberpunk than that (as of 2024)? One day, we will have even more impressive technologies, to change and improve even more our bodies. It's so exciting! Hopefully conservative people will stop getting in the way of science.
I will always get int he way of your scientific aberrations. Seethe. Cope. Dilate.
>What's more cyberpunk than that
>trannoid autist is so fricking stupid that he thinks cyberpunk is something we should be working for rather than against
41% yourself. It literally depicts a dystopia and is usually meant as a warning.
>It literally depicts a dystopia and is usually meant as a warning.
This. The good future was 1960s jolly and colorful futurism, while the bad future was bleak and awful troon cyberpunk.
Trips of truth. Almost everything that could have gone wrong did.
Cyberpunk is dystopian, I meant it like cyborgs are cool.
What's weird is that you are so obsessed with trans people, despite that some other technologies (such as social networks) are proven to be bad for mental health, and you do not fight as hard against them. Could it have something to do with the fact that social networks make a lot of money to billionaires, but transitioning doesn't? And, imagine if one of those billionaire would buy out a social network, to then find a scapegoat (let's say "wokism") to blame, so he would manipulate people into hating trans people instead of billionaires? Nah, Elon Musk wouldn't do that, am I right? He wouldn't meme to be the "cool billionaire"?
Isn't it what cyberpunk dystopias are all about though? Like big, unruled corporations lead by greedy billionaires being bad for the society? There are a few things that would be cool, like androids, cyborgs, etc., but you missed the point of cyberpunk dystopias: criticizing corporatocracies.
I really do think studying the brain extensively should be banned. Nothing good can come from it.
Black person, you do know that men in c**tries like India and Indonesia wears "skirts" called Longi right?
>Mentions shithole countries
Such many reasons on why we shouldn't become like those homosexuals.
And yet those shithole countries hates homosexuals, trannies and keep women in line better than you do.
No I didn't know, but are they asked to not show their underwear as children?
Someone said I'm trans, the opposite of being trans is being cis. Words. And I'm not israelite neither, I have a very catholic family.
>Males and females get the same education.
They don't, for many reasons. You're not teached to play with the same toys, to wear the same clothes. But beyond that, what kind of representative billionaire do a little girl see on the TV? Try to find a woman in the top 10 of richest people, just one.
>reeeeeeeeeeeee I can be wamen too
>Which you can't.
Since when are humans subject to their biology? Throughout history, humans have transcended what was naturally possible, doing incredible and extraordinary things. We have technology and science for transitioning, but you oppose it, for strange principles.
Not true, but if it were, if you don't let them transition they will be more likely to have huge depressions because of the gender dysphoria. I think you forgot what "dysphoria" meant.
And then, trans people are also more likely to be depressed by transphobia, because of people acting like you.
>No I didn't know, but are they asked to not show their underwear as children?
I've never heard this said with any degree of importance to any child, male or female.
>Since when are humans subject to their biology?
Are you kidding? Try to be a bird, or an ant, or even something more closely related, like a chimp. You can't. You're stuck as a male homosexual sapiens, bud.
>Not true, but if it were, if you don't let them transition they will be more likely to have huge depressions because of the gender dysphoria. I think you forgot what "dysphoria" meant.
>And then, trans people are also more likely to be depressed by transphobia, because of people acting like you.
The evidence shows that the rate of suicides doesn't get better after transition. The evidence also shows that most people with gender dysphoria get over it soon enough.
Trans ideology has grown by leaps and bounds this last decade. Far more attention and accommodation is being given to trans people. And yet, mental illness is still on the rise. Trans people are STILL depressed and suicidal, far moreso than the general non-trans population. I'd suggest to you that encouraging transition and gender-affirming care (and associated phenomena, but we'll leave those alone) are making all people, especially gender dysphorics, much sicker and more depressed.
When someone believes they're a bird, we don't surgically attach wings and a beak to them and encourage them to try to fly. Your self-reported opinions about what kind of creature you feel you should be are meaningless, because yes, we are limited by biology.
We might try actually treating mental illness (dysphoria, depression, etc.) instead of accommodating it.
>Try to be a bird, or an ant, or even something more closely related, like a chimp. You can't. You're stuck as a male homosexual sapiens, bud.
I did and I can, in VR, a technology. Oh yeah I know that right now, it only works for your eyesight, but give it a few more years and it should be fine. I'll fly like an eagle, piloting a blimp.
>The evidence shows that the rate of suicides doesn't get better after transition.
Which evidence? I found a scientific study:
"We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32072611/
>The evidence also shows that most people with gender dysphoria get over it soon enough.
Children with a gender dysphoria yes, not teenagers or adults. I'm against allowing minors to transition anyway.
>Trans people are STILL depressed and suicidal, far moreso than the general non-trans population.
They're depressed before because of gender dysphoria, and less depressed after thanks to their transition. But they're still depressed often due to societal stigma, discrimination, and victimization. Let's try to not discriminate them, and offer them mental health assistance and gender-affirming surgery, and see if it can significantly reduce the likeliness of suicidal thoughts.
>I'd suggest to you that encouraging transition and gender-affirming care (and associated phenomena, but we'll leave those alone) are making all people, especially gender dysphorics, much sicker and more depressed.
Based on what? Science studies say the opposite.
>When someone believes they're a bird
Literally who. I met people who thought they should be a human of the opposite sex. They're already human. It's not such a big deal. We can even (thanks to technology) make them be who they feel like they are.
>We might try actually treating mental illness (dysphoria, depression, etc.) instead of accommodating it.
We must do this and also let them transition.
>I did and I can, in VR, a technology.
What color is your skin?
>Im against minors transitioning
Why? It's been consistently shown early transitioning before puberty starts hitting lowering gender dysphoria seen in trannies. You won't be passing well to the opposite gender if you transition in your adulthood when growth hormones during your puberty dimorphises men and women.
>I have a very catholic family.
That explains everything.
>Throughout history, humans have transcended what was naturally possible, doing incredible and extraordinary things. We have technology and science for transitioning, but you oppose it, for strange principles.
The technology and science for transitioning doesn't work.
>They don't, for many reasons. You're not teached to play with the same toys, to wear the same clothes. But beyond that, what kind of representative billionaire do a little girl see on the TV? Try to find a woman in the top 10 of richest people, just one.
Kids of different sex prefer to play with different toys naturally.
If things like toys and clothes determined your identity, then you'd see even greater influence of things like environment they grew up in. Yet you see people move from villages to cities, from mountains to harbors, without experiencing any "geographical dysphoria". Your environment does not shape your identity anywhere nearly as your sex. Maybe because only one of these things is actually genetic.
Watching TV and earning money is not education as well. They are not very correlated in the edge cases like "top 10 richest people".
>Kids of different sex prefer to play with different toys naturally.
Source?
According to this meta-analysis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7031194/
It hasn't been proven clearly that such a difference exists. "It is generally recognized that there are gender-related differences in children’s toy preferences. However, the magnitude of these differences has not been firmly established." And also "gender-related differences increased with age", which seems to suggest that I'm right when I say it's LEARNED, not innate.
>If things like toys and clothes determined your identity, then you'd see even greater influence of things like environment they grew up in. Yet you see people move from villages to cities, from mountains to harbors, without experiencing any "geographical dysphoria". Your environment does not shape your identity anywhere nearly as your sex. Maybe because only one of these things is actually genetic.
I'm sorry what? How your environment doesn't shape your identity?? Elon Musk is in the top 10 of richest people in the world, because he was born in a rich family. How many billionaires comes from places without schools, such as small villages in Africa?
>Watching TV and earning money is not education as well. They are not very correlated in the edge cases like "top 10 richest people".
Watching TV is part of education, whether you like it or not. If you see someone you admire, you'll want to become them. Which women can girls admire?
The greater difference in gender-stereotyped behavior compared to brain structure suggests that social or cultural factors play a larger role in these behavioral differences than structural brain differences. And yes, there a size difference, and now what? The size makes you be different too? Who said that?
>Why?
I don't know tbh, I would have to look for pros and cons.
Idk what you're talking about, but if you knew psychology, you would know that education matters.
>broccoli and oak tree bear remarkable structural similarity
>forget the size difference, it's immaterial, broccoli and oak trees are the quantitatively the same and should be considered equivalent for any analysis
Brain sizes makes no difference. There has been scientific studies on this, and what they showed is that the ratio brain weight/total weight is the one that is the most likely to determine intelligence. Whales have a huge brain but are dumb, because of this ratio. Obviously a female who weights 45 kg will have a smaller brain than me who weight 75 kg, but my brain has more stuff to manage (e.g. because I eat more food, so my digestion requires more cells time) so I'm not more intelligent.
>That just means there hasn't been enough studies to corroborate that. It doesn't meant that there is no connection, just that it hasn't been formally studied.
It means that such a connection cannot be proven. Therefore, with actual science and more than 70 studies on the subject, we can say it doesn't exist.
>By the way it wasn't until 2019 that there was a study proving that cows produce more milk when they're relaxed and listening to music even though singing and making them relaxed to get more mill from them is something that has been observed and done for hundreds of years.
OK...? Can't you see a difference between your misogynistic opinion and playing music to cows?
>There's also zero studies proving a definitive link between smoking and cancer even though we have observed the data and know the mechanisms involved.
This is not true. Here's a meta-analysis of 216 studies:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17893872/
By that logic, an ant is the smartest creature. moron, the biggest correlation isn't brain size but brain cells. Even though the whale's brain is bigger, it has lesser nueral connections than a human brain.
And why ants aren't smart despite having the largest brains relative to their size, because its so tiny that you can have only so much neurons.
Btw, relatively most measurements show men having a higher head to total body ratio than women so even that argument is moot.
>By that logic, an ant is the smartest creature. moron, the biggest correlation isn't brain size but brain cells. Even though the whale's brain is bigger, it has lesser nueral connections than a human brain.
Don't make me say things I didn't say. Dolphins have the highest ratio of all cetaceans, and they're effectively smarter than all others. I think you have to get beyond a certain threshold for this ratio to be relevant. But female and male humans are so close together in weight (relatively to ants) that this ratio is relevant.
"Some researchers prefer lean body weight to brain mass as a better predictor." (source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14673198/)
Maybe that's why? I have no idea what you're talking about though, you don't give any source.
>That's not how the null hypothesis works anon.
That's exactly how it works though. Especially when you tried in more than 70 studies to prove it, but repeatedly failed to.
No, among Cetaceans Sperm Whales are the smartest, some studies suggesting that they've a culture as complex as prehistoric humans. Dolphins are more approachable, but that doesn't mean they're smarter just like how dogs being more understandable to humans doesn't mean they're smarter than pigs.
And even if women and men are slightly similar in body to head ratio, as another anon in the thread said, that slight advantage accounts for a lot in a larger population.
Also, it's kind of funny how you screamed "muh correlation not causation" while citing hypothesis literally citing correlational observation(such as head to body ratio determining intelligence).
And no, that's not how null hypothesis works. Especially when most of them do show correlation that you dismiss outright as "not strong evidence".
>we can say it doesn't exists
That's not how the null hypothesis works anon.
>it can't be proven
Do you even scientific process bro? Science can't prove things right, only "not wrong." You cannot prove that there is or isn't a connection between sex and toys, but observational data points that way.
By the way, there are zero long-term studies proving the effectiveness of HRT or transition. The only ones that exist are either riddled with methodology issues and/or high morbidity; or they find that in the long term there is no difference at all in outcome.
Again, observational data points to troons being more mentally ill, more depressed and more suicidal despite having governments, the entire medical field and corporations bending over for them.
>meta analysis
All that can do is point towards a possible connection between smoking and cancer.
Troons are the most disingenuous morons there are. They don't know, and don't care for, the scientific process. They just spout shitty useless studies to silence others.
>Do you even scientific process bro? Science can't prove things right, only "not wrong." You cannot prove that there is or isn't a connection between sex and toys, but observational data points that way.
Correlation doesn't mean causality.
There are scientific studies showing that the older they get (the more education they get), the more they play with a toy meant for their gender according to society, which tends to show that without external societal pressure, the sex wouldn't determine which toys they play with.
>By the way, there are zero long-term studies proving the effectiveness of HRT or transition. The only ones that exist are either riddled with methodology issues and/or high morbidity; or they find that in the long term there is no difference at all in outcome.
There are meta-analysis like the one I linked, and you you have no source to back up your claim.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32072611/
>Again, observational data points to troons being more mentally ill, more depressed and more suicidal despite having governments, the entire medical field and corporations bending over for them.
They are before or after transition, with or without it, but they are less depressed and have less suicidal thoughts after transition.
>All that can do is point towards a possible connection between smoking and cancer.
It shows a direct correlation between smoking and cancers, and this is a higher predicator than other things, so the scientific consensus is that smoking cause cancer. It won't necessarily be the cancer's cause in a smoker though.
>Troons are the most disingenuous morons there are. They don't know, and don't care for, the scientific process. They just spout shitty useless studies to silence others.
Are you talking about all humans and calling them "troons" for some reason?
>Humans are the most disingenuous morons there are. They don't know, and don't care for, the scientific process. They just spout shitty useless beliefs to silence others.
>Correlation doesn't mean causality.
Playing styles vary from a very young age, which is something troons willingly ignore to hyper-focus on toy colors.
>which tends to show that without external societal pressure, the sex wouldn't determine which toys they play with
To reach this conclusion you have to assume from the beginning that all variation is solely due to societal factors (which is the biggest issue of all "gender" studies, including Money's). It could be that sex is an inherent part of the self and it manifest itself more strongly as time goes by.
Which seems to be the case considering the vast majority of children with dysphoria get over it after puberty. Another thing troons love to ignore.
>There are meta-analysis like the one I linked
Irrelevant because they're based on garbage studies. If you make a meta-analysis of smoking studies financed by Marlboro you'd find out that smoking is good for health too.
>and you you have no source to back up your claim
Oh, but I do. All troon hallmark studies suffer from hilariously small groups, hilariously huge morbidity, hilariously short timeframes; or a combination of the three.
The only long term study that has ever been conducted showed zero improvement, which is why a certain Nordic country rolled back their transitioning programs for children. Another fact troons love to ignore.
>They are before or after transition, with or without it, but they are less depressed and have less suicidal thoughts after transition
Not according to the only long term study that has ever been conducted. Also all observational data points towards transition being useless.
>It shows a direct correlation between smoking and cancers
But you just said correlation doesn't equal causation?
You know which two things have higher correlation than smoking and cancer? Sex and gender.
>it hasn't been firmly established
That just means there hasn't been enough studies to corroborate that. It doesn't meant that there is no connection, just that it hasn't been formally studied.
By the way it wasn't until 2019 that there was a study proving that cows produce more milk when they're relaxed and listening to music even though singing and making them relaxed to get more mill from them is something that has been observed and done for hundreds of years. There's also zero studies proving a definitive link between smoking and cancer even though we have observed the data and know the mechanisms involved.
>there seems to be some proof gender differences start some time in early infancy
>BUT THIS ISN'T STRONG EVIDENCE FOR YOUR SPECIFIC CLAIM
>However it does increase with age
>THIS IS STRONG PROOF FOR MY CLAIM THOUGH
No, it's not. People associating certain things with their genders as they grow and learn isn't a proof that the gender is by itself socially created.
What do you think? Do you think they could flash if they weren't careful?
Skirts aren't some men only dress, most hot humid climates opt such as the c**tries opted for a dress that allowed free air flow.
Sisters i don't feel so good about this one
>those points and error bars
They will just cope saying they're all "one of the real ones" on the woman side of the chart
it's indicating there's a subpopulation inside the troony population
Draw the two humps in the troony one separately and you've got two normal distributions with 2 distinct populations
there's a bunch of "trannies" that are clustering more male than the straight men are.
hmmmm
they're just on the more effeminate side of male, not exactly unexpected information
Damn she posted the pussy chart
>The violin plots look like pussies except the troony one looks like a butcher job
lel
>ITT
>Are you pretending that your education isn't structuring your brain? Then why can't I have big muscles without any training too?
Males and females get the same education.
Damn that's crazy really, I'm glad The Scientists exist out there to state the obvious
>show brainscan to AI of a trans woman
>AI says its female
This would make chuds seethe forever kek. It's likely that transwomen truly have women brain (true trans though not AGP)
Oh I'm aware of that possibility. In fact I think homosexuality is caused by partial feminization of the brain, when it's not caused by certain actions taken during early adolescence owing to the fact that human sexuality is more malleable than anyone wants to admit.
I just think that almost everyone currently claiming to be transgender would be identified according to their biological sex. IF the model is allowed to remain accurate.
However if the production version is as biased as chatGPT is, this is going to be a massive disaster as it sorts almost everyone that goes through it into "female" just to cover its owner's and developer's asses from the troony mob, and will perpetuate the crisis.
>biased as chatGPT is, this is going to be a massive disaster as it sorts almost everyone that goes through it into "female" just to cover its owner's and developer's asses from the troony mob,
It won't be "almost everyone" but it'll work exactly like this lol. It'll be like the bpd preschool teachers who see a little boy pick up a barbie who then coach him into telling his family that he's actually a girl but encoded into neural analysis. We're beyond fricked.
Good morning, sir.
Genuinely please explain this from your linked paper:
>Only when unsupervised clustering was applied to the “uncorrected” volume of gray and white matter regions, brains from females and males were more separated, with the chance that two males or two females would be in the same cluster being about twice the chance that a female and a male would be in the same cluster. It is noteworthy that this ratio, while higher than that obtained when unsupervised clustering algorithms were applied to “uncorrected” cortical thickness or to “corrected” volume of gray and white matter regions (∼1.1), is much lower than the ratio obtained by these algorithms when applied to the gender-stereotyped behavior (>6). Moreover, as was the case for the anomaly detection analysis, the better separation achieved for the “uncorrected” volume of gray and white matter regions was attributed to the differences between females and males in total brain volume.
This reads as "female and male brains are actually the same when we eliminate thickness and volume from the comparison, otherwise they are obviously different"
ok but by what mechanism where there even be differences between men and women like what could make them physically and mentally different that doesnt make sense
By what mechanism is a man made distinct from a dog.
Imagine how much better off civilization would be if females literally had the intelligence levels of dogs and only men could think and speak.
Men's brains are larger and have higher synapse density. Basically the male brain is more advanced.
Endocrinal
Men have better spatial and motor skills
Women have better long term memory and a more developed frontal lobe (behave more maturely)
To put it simply, men are in general larger than men hence have larger brains(while having around the same nueral density which in means in average more brain cells than women, so it's not the case like elephants who have larger brains but blower nueral density than humans) than women in general. Though there's lots of cope studies going around saying intelligence in women isn't related to their brain size or something.
>while having around the same nueral density
No.
Are you FRICKING moronic
SEXUAL DIMORPHISM HAS BEEN SELECTED FOR BY EVOLUTION FOR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS
FRICKING have a nice day moron GORILLA Black person
Enough. The chemicals are turning the frogs gay and they're making all the zoomers into femboys too.
I hope you're not being sarcastic because both of these are more or less true
anon all humans are equal
if (bigbrain) then man else woman
you know what they say about guys with big brains
>it's so desperate its responding to itself now
>.1 a
Boys have a penis.
Girls have a vegana.
Your chromosomes determine your sex.
Gender was conjured up by a pedo.
This isn't complicated, morons.
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is King!
this stuff has always confused me
who's who between "god" "jesus" "lord" "king" "holy spirit" etc
they all seem to be used interchangeably, until you also use things like "jesus is the son of god", even though i've heard people use "the lord" to refer to both jesus and god
Surprised there's only a mild amount of people being misleading on this in the thread and almost as much cope. The trannies keep winning.
>https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2310012121
alright so where the frick can i get the full study? i wanna read it but i can't a non-paywalled website that has it
has it been put in some pirated document database yet?
Technology?
This erages both sides of the crazies. One denies that the mental disorder of being transgender even exists while the other side fears this kind of research because it would make the transtrenders even more obvious because while they do have mental disorders it is not that one.
Oh I think it probably does exist.
But just like those people who feel like their limbs aren't actually their own and are some corpse's or something, they are in fact so few in number that they shouldn't be even remotely politically relevant to anyone. I also think that the way to do the greatest good for the greatest number of people unfortunately means allowing their lives to be difficult and confusing so that everyone else can lead more predictable lives, and to remove or reduce the unfairness, hatred, competition, and porn that lead people to want to change their bodies so drastically, but also cause other social problems.