if they're suspected of sharing/possessing actual CSAM, then sure. Otherwise
Big CP
this, unironically. In contrast to what
IIRC the training data contains scrapped CP so it's not victimless as some people might suggest.
and
https://i.imgur.com/HP0YogD.jpg
>They never used actual cp to train loras or checkpoints
Yeah, right
, you don't even need to train it on real children. A model trained exclusively on CSAM would probably give itself away, since it's borrowing heavily from certain types of images or depictions that could probably be identified by users or even law enforcement.
The US Supreme Court actually had impressive foresight on this. >pic related
While it's certainly not unfeasible for someone to use CSAM as training material, it wouldn't be something that wouldn't be without risks, nor is it required.
3DCG models, petite adults, 2D pornography, all of these types of images can produce outputs that are just as realistic and satisfactory to put a dent in the CSAM market. It just needs time to thrive, otherwise we'll just be dealing with the same issue quantified exponentially and with a blurrier rationale.
Kek this is the only reason I can actually think of that alarms would be going off over this. Unfortunately, all 50 states must recognize the first amendment right to generate pixels.
You will own no CP (while the elites have all the CP)
You will not devalue the CP market by AI generated CP (while the elites have all the CP).
CP is for the elites only you pleb.
>downloading videogames and movies for free hurts the videogame and movie industry >downloading chinese cartoon book pictures... HELPS the chinese cartoon book industry
help me goldberg im going insane
8 months ago
Anonymous
>inb4 can't be compared >inb4 fundamentally different
8 months ago
Anonymous
>cant be compared
why
>it just cant be
oh
8 months ago
Anonymous
Unironically I blame the professionalization for that cop out.
8 months ago
Anonymous
This.
CP industry doesn't profit from someone downloading CP for free. Banning simple possession makes literally 0 sense and is just an excuse to arrest people, as planting it is very easy for the US government.
Now try to explain why you aren't using similar images to your boomer dinosaur congressmen. It's impossible. They won't understand. There's a "training" so "obviously" it must have some "image" in there of children.
8 months ago
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Yeah, it does, of clothed children.
Of course that just makes it harder to explain, that to be unable to generate child pornography, it must not be capable of generating any pornography.
The most likely outcome of this is to place the burden of proof on you that any model in your possession didn't have any illegal content in it.
>Your Honor, the only children involved in this "CSAM" you found on my hard drive were the chinks at the sweatshop factory assembling the GPUs I used. The images were actually based off my favorite pornstar, Young Monroe, at the LEGAL age of 18, and I will now sue the court for defamation.
Correct, it’s all about destroying morally corrupt filth in our society. Pedo murder should be legal no questions asked, like killing a rat on your property.
>IIRC the training data contains scrapped CP
Stable Diffusion's inputs are image URLs on the clearnet, to be downloaded on the spot during the training process.
Very few of those URLs are definitely tagged with CP-related terms and phrases. Most or all of them are not actual CP. For example, banner ads for Brazilian porn sites where the only "8yo" thing in the picture is maybe the woman's boob job. Clickbait for degenerates that, if anything, should only make generating actual CP harder.
Source: querying the LAION 5+ dataset used in SD's training almost a year ago. Other fun findings: there are more pictures tagged with "wedding" than with "blue." Basically, Stable Diffusion is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHotXbGZiFY and ecommerce listings.
The US "black budgets" aren't taken directly from the tax payer, they're funded by illicit government enterprises, such as drugs and human trafficking (both things that we know for sure that feds have direct involvement in)
AI will allow blackmailed pedophiles to have plausible deniability. This royally (pun intended) fricks up any power structure that relies on blackmail.
It's literally a status symbol, only the elites can look at the forbidden fruit because hurting children is their prerogative. If anyone could have the same without any children involved, this exclusive benefit would be worthless.
I bet that more than half these attorneys have their computers full of the real shit, not just "AI" pictures but actual photographs where they're the ones with those they claim to protect.
I'm all for not criminalizing e-girl stuff (which is obviously cartoons), but photorealistic content is where I draw the line. Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life in order to live the experiences that they watched. What do you think this means for children?
>Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life in order to live the experiences that they watched.
Pfffft Hahahahahahahaha
Good one anon
>Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life in order to live the experiences that they watched
Yes, that's why permavirgins never watch porn.
Oh wait.
Ok, I'll concede that my wording was weird. I meant that porn produced a desire in the average man to seek women. Those who feel they can't act on this desire due to personal shortcomings (permavirgins, as you said) turn into incels.
Damn, reddit styled pro-government concern posts are incredible bait
Why do you think this is bait? Can you explain how I'm wrong? I'm always open to learn.
>I meant that porn produced a desire in the average man to seek women
Not really. I'm just getting my rocks off, and after that I'll continue insulting and hating women.
Cringe.
Both e-girl hentai and AI child erotica should be legal.
Legal CP is proven to keep pedos from molesting children. >Milton Diamond, from the University of Hawaii, presented evidence that "[l]egalizing child pornography is linked to lower rates of child sex abuse". Results from the Czech Republic indicated, as seen everywhere else studied (Canada, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Finland, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Sweden, US), that rape and other sex crimes "decreased or essentially remained stable" following the legalization and wide availability of pornography. His research also indicated that the incidence of child sex abuse has fallen considerably since 1989, when child pornography became readily accessible – a phenomenon also seen in Denmark and Japan. The findings support the theory that potential sexual offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex crimes against children. While the authors do not approve of the use of real children in the production or distribution of child pornography, they say that artificially produced materials might serve a purpose.[2] >Diamond suggests to provide artificially created child pornography that does not involve any real children. His article relayed, "If availability of pornography can reduce sex crimes, it is because the use of certain forms of pornography to certain potential offenders is functionally equivalent to the commission of certain types of sex offences: both satisfy the need for psychosexual stimulants leading to sexual enjoyment and orgasm through masturbation. If these potential offenders have the option, they prefer to use pornography because it is more convenient, unharmful and undangerous (Kutchinsky, 1994, pp. 21)."[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse
>using logic and evidence
Umm, you're supposed to shut off your critical thinking when someone screeches "think of muh children" and allow megacorps to lobby for more laws that destroy privacy and enable state surveillance.
Okay, thank you for the evidence. That's all I wanted to know. Assuming this is true (I'm too lazy to scrutinize the findings at the moment), then I concede.
It should obvious at this point the government has no intention of actually solving crime because that would lose them votes. It's about keeping everything shit so you can always claim to make it better. Pedos in particular are a great issue to keep around because you can use them as an excuse to enact authoritarian laws.
Most people are cowards
That's why anti-pedo "heroes" crusade against drawings, AI, dolls and basement dwellers while turning a blind eye on the rich and powerful passing children around like cigarettes
8 months ago
Anonymous
But I thought America was the home of the brave?
8 months ago
Anonymous
That was way back when the accepted answer to women wanting to vote was "get back in the kitchen"
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah anon why doesn't people throw away their great lives for a relatively insignificant issue? The only people who do this are losers with nothing to lose.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Because that's LITERALLY how this shitshow of a country got started.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The liberty of grooming children on Discord? I'm not going to equate 1776 to generating CSAM on a GPU.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's impressive you can type coherently with that much boot in your face.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Work harder in phrasing your argument because optics matter, child.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>optics matter
True, but rather in weeding out cattle such as you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Anti-pedos are often pedos.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I remember there being a whole image collection of these "the anti-pedo doth protest too much" moments
8 months ago
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8 months ago
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Nah, the collection I'm talking about was on an archival site, though I'm not surprised to see that THAT site also has its own collection
Good on them for keeping on top of these things
I think fricking pedophiles is always a good thing ®, but I can't avoid thinking that there's a bunch of AIbros hands over this in order to finally get their so called regulatory capture. Remember how the government is always using "to protect the kids" in order to strip people's rights?
>“While we know Congress is aware of concerns surrounding AI, and legislation has been recently proposed at both the state and federal level to regulate AI generally, much of the focus has been on national security and education concerns,” the letter reads. “And while those interests are worthy of consideration, the safety of children should not fall through the cracks when evaluating the risks of AI.”
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/5/23860412/ai-attorneys-general-50-states-congress-csam
January 6th 2.0 is more likely than Trump winning though, simply because of all the criminal cases he's got pending. If only one charge sticks he'll likely sit for the rest of his life.
Have you ever considered that if you mandatorily give pedos the rope they will mandatorily give children the rope, considering that it removes a witness? Or does your inability to look past your next meal simply render you unable to consider that possibility? >inb4 abused children are better off dead
I concur, but I wouldn't limit it to the "abused" part.
lets say someone kidnaps someone, if the sentence is death, how many of the kidnappers are going to say frick this shit we are going out together, if caught you have 0 reason to keep the person alive.
but if its just time in jail, you get less murder suicide events, we have had real life cases where this was put in practice, granted they are from 400~ years ago, you would rather have the kidnapped person back alive than dead, even if you wish the person who did it to die, its better they dont for everyone's sake.
the law makes an action illegal, that stops most people from doing said action under any normal circumstance
if the criminals who still do the action have no incentive to not go nuclear, why would they not go nuclear?
yes and no, you have to keep in mind the difference between someone who commits a crime and then someone who is a sociopath by nature.
again, see kidnapping, the reason we don't just kill the fricker for kidnapping or rapeing the person is because if the sentence is death regardless, they are more likely to just kill the person to get rid of any evidence.
its the reason that we treat criminals far FAR differently before they commit a violent act, and after they do.
>if the criminals who still do the action have no incentive to not go nuclear, why would they not go nuclear?
Because if they do, we not only execute them, but we use the best medical technology available to keep them alive as long as possible so we can torture them as excruciatingly as possible in the most horrific of ways imaginable by the human mind. The choice is death, or wish you were. Sadly, you homosexuals just love your little pedo's so much you'll never let justice occur.
The 8th Amendment disagrees with your head cannon.
8 months ago
Anonymous
WRONG
You are not American, opinion discarded
8 months ago
Anonymous
>schizo ramblings
Don't care, take your meds.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Not relevant you moronic pedo, nothing I said would be cruel or unusual punishment for pedo's. But of course you would try to defend yourself, I'm not surprised.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>nothing I said would be cruel or unusual punishment for pedo's
Again, the 8th Amendment disagrees with your head cannon.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Again, not relevant because its not cruel nor unusual punishment for pedo's. Learn to read you fricking pedophile.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You seem to think that your "for pedos" has any relevancy whatsoever. It doesn't.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It does actually, hence why you don't see the death penalty for stealing, because that would be cruel and unusual punishment for theft. It has to be cruel or unusual punishment, it's not cruel or unusual to torture pedophiles. But again I'm not surprised you don't want to be tortured to death because you're a pedophile.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>lots of incoherent ramblings again
There was actually a time where you could be sentenced to death for stealing a horse for instance, but that was before the Supreme Court's ruling in 1976 that stated that it was totally OK to sentence people to death as long as certain standards were upheld (split of trial into guilt and penalty phases with determination of mitigating and aggravating factors, plenty of automatic appeals and so forth). This makes DP cases so bothersome and expensive that legislatures opted to either ban the DP altogether, or only use them in the worst of cases - and even then the penalty isn't supposed to cause unnecessary suffering.
tl; dr: your impotent, incompetent rage is shining through, and I fricking love it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You don't see death penalty for anything other than murder in America, moron.
Which we do all the time because their votes theoretically influence what the federal government does which affects New York. Even though in practice voting doesn't affect anything anymore, they're not quite ready to drop the pretense, so everything's connected which is why everything everywhere in the world is ALL YOUR FAULT.
>anyone who harms a child, be it sexually or mutilating their genitals before that child can decide themselves what they want to do deserves the same actions forced upon them >most rapes end with the victim's death
anon is an actual homosexual for his posts and I hope he gets v&
Once they outlaw it, how can they enforce it? Obviously Windows will report keystrokes that are suspicious but Linux doesn't care. Stable Diffusion also works offline and doesn't store your data as far as I know. Maybe feds will easily sieze AI downloaders, repositories, and models to stuff bugs inside of them for monitoring. We still fall under the patriot act. Did Intel ME even report shit to the feds at all yet?
>Obviously Windows will report keystrokes that are suspicious
I want to see them try that, what with all the telemetry removal people can do to an ISO before installing it. >inb4 it's gonna be reinstalled once connected to the internet
Not with Simplewall it ain't.
the same way they enforce hatespeech and other illegal laws. It wont be a real law, just a terms of service agreement, a community guideline, a pretense to start investigations for other things because the target has a demonstrated probable cause by participating in something legal and unrelated what are you some kind of bigot? Stop asking questions. We are in a post law society, they just do whatever they want and everyone is too scared to call them out on it. We no longer have a society where people are willing to stand up simply for the principle of an issue.
there is none, that's not how it works. It can generate a picture of an astronaut riding a horse in Middle Earth, but there's never been a picture of such a thing ever. It's just transposing a child's face and proportions onto a naked adult, or vice versa but there's no evidence that any real csam was used in training anything, this would be highly illegal and would have been prosecuted by now, and it would not be difficult to figure out. why do you see people doing more cartoonish pictures? because there's better reference material, the "realism" models are just resizing the torso of a flat-chested adult and sticking a child's head on top, it's very obvious >inb4 have a nice day pedo
no, I don't think I will. why don't you come find me tough guy
>2023 >outdated CP laws are still around
How the frick haven't Americans realized CP laws are just an excuse to spy on you at this point? Are they moronic?
CP laws aren't an excuse to spy on people, you silly. They're an excuse to eliminate people. >make an announcement on the ~~*(news*~~) and ~~*(social media*~~) that an ~~*(insider*~~) has revealed that Person X is totally a child molester and totally has loads of CP in his computer >either A) the NPCs kill him for you, or B) you get to arrest him with impunity, plant said CP in his computer when it gets brought in as ~~*(evidence*~~) and then jail kills him for you
It's THAT easy. There have already been cases of NPCs murdering innocent people and being let off the hook because "they were trying to protect the children! they killed an innocent but it was a for a ~~*(good cause*~~)!"
Exactly. Any Black person can simply refuse to talk with the pigs, and that's what the Black person should be doing even if he's guilty, seeing as any confession he gives during a police interview will be given for free and can't be argued for in plea deals. If, however, the Black person shuts up, and the cops have nothing else on him, then there's a good chance he walks without a single charge. >t. paralegal
And this one just for completionist's sake:
Cops don't have to Mirandize you, that is, read the Miranda warning (right to remain silent, right to an attorney free of charge, questioning stops as soon as you clearly say "I want to speak with a lawyer" - also it's NOT "Miranda rights", only a "Miranda warning" about your constitutional rights) unless you are in custody. They can simply invite you for a talk without telling you any of that shit and let you dig your own grave, and everything is going to be admissible in court.
In short: never ever EVER talk to the police.
Ever. Seriously, I mean it.
And this one just for completionist's sake:
Cops don't have to Mirandize you, that is, read the Miranda warning (right to remain silent, right to an attorney free of charge, questioning stops as soon as you clearly say "I want to speak with a lawyer" - also it's NOT "Miranda rights", only a "Miranda warning" about your constitutional rights) unless you are in custody. They can simply invite you for a talk without telling you any of that shit and let you dig your own grave, and everything is going to be admissible in court.
In short: never ever EVER talk to the police.
Ever. Seriously, I mean it.
>Black person refused to cooperate >shot to death
8 months ago
Anonymous
You're confusing police interviews with arrests. If the cops have an arrest warrant or probable cause they can arrest you, and once they do they can use deadly force if you resist. That doesn't prevent you from refusing an interview and asking for a lawyer; all that's gonna happen in that case is that you'll be booked into the local jail (because you've been arrested, after all). You'll then appear before a judge who will appoint legal counsel and set your bond.
Basically make it a huge burden to investigate and make such investigations mandatory so no private citizen can manage it and all major venues have draconian rules as a result.
can i have a list of tensors or loras that are suspected for being trained on csam? for filtering purposes. i dont want to have them in my devices and network.
i know one called *staber but thats kinda outdated by now. pedocoomers would probably have made something with higher quality by now.
They can't stop it without going full 1984 and I somehow doubt that general public would support that, even if it screws pedos.
Some pedo in his NEET-apartment fapping to imaginary children is not a threat to anyone. Denying him of the material will just make him turn to the dark web and download his fix from there and that shit is literal children suffering to produce fapping material.
Though it would not be surprising if they manage to get some beyond 1984 going in few countries/states. Culminating in mandatory thought/memory scans once the technology allows it, which is not that far off anymore. 50 to 100 years for accurate thought reading of images, sound and video. That will get all pedos and criminals BTFO.
>thought/memory scans
That will ironically be the end of authoritarianism as everybody will be able to see that what the people who want to rule over others think.
>everybody will be able to see that what the people who want to rule over others think
ahahhahaahahhahaha >he thinks the tech would be used on the ruling class
Some shithead will, and then the public will forget about it the next day because they're all indoctrinated NPCs who're better off dead.
There are no innocents, only target practice.
>end of authoritarianism
LOL.
The same way cameras are a end to authoriterianism?
You know since we all can see what Jeff Bezos is doing.
Oh wait their data is hidden and you get accused of cyber staling if you ask for it while the NSA waches you 24/7.
Enjoy your life pleb.
They can't stop it without going full 1984 and I somehow doubt that general public would support that, even if it screws pedos.
Some pedo in his NEET-apartment fapping to imaginary children is not a threat to anyone. Denying him of the material will just make him turn to the dark web and download his fix from there and that shit is literal children suffering to produce fapping material.
Though it would not be surprising if they manage to get some beyond 1984 going in few countries/states. Culminating in mandatory thought/memory scans once the technology allows it, which is not that far off anymore. 50 to 100 years for accurate thought reading of images, sound and video. That will get all pedos and criminals BTFO.
scans
Technology will create a nightmare control scenario that was unimaginable 200 years ago.
>is not a threat to anyone.
You are not thinking in totalitarianism.
Would you like the >Protect from the terrorists
or the >Protect the children
Excuse?
You're a defeatist. You say the NSA is watching everybody. What did they achieve with that tremendous power? Convince me the NSA is something else than a psyop to create a Hawthorne effect on a mass scale.
>. You say
All I'm saying is that we should have nuked ourselves in the Cuban missile crisis (1962) [good timeline]. What we are experiencing now is the bad timeline.
>that shit is literal children suffering to produce fapping material
Is it though? Much of it is just kids recording themselves jerking off in front of a webcam.
You can play video games on a console or only on a government approved GPU that requires key verification from the video game for it to run the signed code
GPUs that run unsigned code are dangerous weapons only used by criminals
>You need gpus to play video games. >goyim, you dont need a gpu, you can steam games from this device we will rent to you :^)
I wouldn't care about this if I knew they were ONLY going to ban CP, but the problem is that they'll ban all sex. AI ethicists have shown themselves to be antisexuals who hate all sex. So now I'll be lumped in with pedophile CP generators if I try to have AI milf sex or get it to say something the ethicists deem unwoke.
>antisex
the current trend is not antisex, but antireproduction. >how does this effect my chinese cartoon book pictures
because good looking porn gives you the motivation to find a good looking partner and reproduce. Part of the current agenda for population control is to subvert your natural inclination for sex = reproduction and replace it with sex = recreation. Just like equality quietly morphed into equity, sex being solely for pleasure is the new normal they are trying to social engineer. This plays into the childfree life style they promote which helps normalize LGBTQ. If sex is only for fun, then it wont matter if you are gay, or asexual, or trans. If, in principle, the purpose of sex is to not make babies, then anything goes as long as the state allows it.
and they dont even have to enforce it realistically. as long as its on the books as a tool to use, then they can add it to the list of trumped up charges whenever the state wants to move on someone for whatever reason.
>We are in a post law society
Sweet. Let's go kill cops then.
sorry anon, but that's only for the unelected neo-artistocrats and their imaginary friend, the legal-liability free corporation. The middle class still must follow the rules, because thats the rule 🙂
>Part of the current agenda for population control is to subvert your natural inclination for sex = reproduction and replace it with sex = recreation.
But letting people have recreational sex with AI would promote that mindset, so it's not that. I think it's just because AI is controlled by israelites and Indians, two groups who tend to be traditionalist and sex-negative.
I wouldn't care about this if I knew they were ONLY going to ban CP, but the problem is that they'll ban all sex. AI ethicists have shown themselves to be antisexuals who hate all sex. So now I'll be lumped in with pedophile CP generators if I try to have AI milf sex or get it to say something the ethicists deem unwoke.
Having some forbidden pixels on your computer that you can be thrown in jail for generating, yeah I just don't see how the government would ever abuse such a thing at all. Especially when they raid your house and can't find anything incriminating but have a huge incentive to want to get you on something.
>"Your Honor, the creation date on the file in question was mere minutes after officers arrived to serve the warrant for suspicion of posting mean things on Facebook. Our forensics team have concluded the only possible explanation is that the suspect had been generating the images as we entered the premises."
How many times are innocent people going to effectively get SWATed by false positives before anyone realizes it's a bad idea? Or will that just be the "cost of doing business"?
>2023 >outdated CP laws are still around
How the frick haven't Americans realized CP laws are just an excuse to spy on you at this point? Are they moronic?
Imagine the stupidest person that you know.
Now imagine that this person is smarter than 50% of the US.
There are furry models, trained on furry art, that are absolutely terrible at realistic stuff. There are (human-centered) realistic models, not trained on anything furry, that suck at furry stuff. There are known merges that, using only those models as ingredients, can generate photorealistic furry stuff that was impossible with either of the original models, more so, photorealistic furry creatures that simply don't exist to begin with and are entirely synthetic. This has been done, it's not a theoretical scenario, it's not an experiment related to what's being discussed here, and it can be replicated.
Point is, the idea that models like those they want to ban could only exist if they were trained on the real deal is simply preposterous. It's false. It's a malicious lie. It's not about protecting anyone, it's just the millionth case of control for the sake of control using the "think of the children" bullshit as an excuse.
This is only being done to prevent blackmail inflation. Watch for details: https://invidious.io.lol/watch?v=xlmhhh9HYqc > AI bros
have a nice day gaygitor.
I was just thinking about this. How much of the population are actually pedophiles? I would say it is less than 1% but even if its higher like 2%, and we already have tools to deal with these """"people"""" why is there always such a knee jerk reaction? Control. When its a slow news day, attack pedophilia and pass laws to take more freedom and privacy from normal citizens. >if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
I have nothing to hide, and I am not a pedophile. I run Windows 11 with full telemetry because I don't care. I am not going to waste my energy hating on less than 1%. Seems like a monumental waste of energy. I hate sin in every form and view it as a sickness that needs to be addressed for sure. Chipping away at freedoms is not the way. They set up all these laws because they know it affects so little people and most people wont care or celebrate them for doing it. I don't hate pedos because I don't hate the rest of the LGBT and I want everyone to repent and be saved by Jesus. I would rather them spend the resources to deal with the Black person problem we currently face. They won't because that costs money.
I tell you this right now, most cops I know are getting ready for a shtf situation. They are going to go home and arm themselves and stick together with their families and loved ones. All this is a slide event to keep your eyes off of what they are actually doing.
>their families and loved ones
No one loves cops. People who're not completely brainwashed bootlickers cheer whenever another pig gets put in a casket. >inb4 their families
Are virtue-signalling, nothing more.
>I tell you this right now, most cops I know are getting ready for a shtf situation. They are going to go home and arm themselves and stick together with their families and loved ones.
Those other two replies tried pretty hard to change the subject away from this. The police officers/other LE that I know are doing the same.
>You need gpus to play video games. >goyim, you dont need a gpu, you can steam games from this device we will rent to you :^)
[...] >antisex
the current trend is not antisex, but antireproduction. >how does this effect my chinese cartoon book pictures
because good looking porn gives you the motivation to find a good looking partner and reproduce. Part of the current agenda for population control is to subvert your natural inclination for sex = reproduction and replace it with sex = recreation. Just like equality quietly morphed into equity, sex being solely for pleasure is the new normal they are trying to social engineer. This plays into the childfree life style they promote which helps normalize LGBTQ. If sex is only for fun, then it wont matter if you are gay, or asexual, or trans. If, in principle, the purpose of sex is to not make babies, then anything goes as long as the state allows it.
and they dont even have to enforce it realistically. as long as its on the books as a tool to use, then they can add it to the list of trumped up charges whenever the state wants to move on someone for whatever reason.
[...]
sorry anon, but that's only for the unelected neo-artistocrats and their imaginary friend, the legal-liability free corporation. The middle class still must follow the rules, because thats the rule 🙂
>the current trend is not antisex, but antireproduction.
This is saddening. It's a blow to my heart every time I meet a nice woman, even if I don't want to date her, who has fallen into the brainwashing of not wanting to start a family. Last three that I did date it turned out they didn't want to have kids (or any more kids). It's fatiguing beyond belief. I'll have my own family someday but damn society is fricked.
I also think that I'm talking to the same (You) with both of these replies.
Actual numbers are 15-20% preferential (higher arousal response to 8-11yo stimulus than 18-23) and ~3% exclusive (measurable arousal response to 8-11 and none to 18-23). For reference, prevalence of left handedness is 10%, homosexuality is 3%.
"To study the impact..." uh huh sounds like an excuse to visit FBI headquarters for a private screening of the best of their stash, get properly wound-up, and then they're off to Epstein Island for a cocaine and viagara-fueled weekend of exploiting children.
literally just outlaw all pictures of children on the internet so the chuds can't train
then make it required to have a facecam to use a computer and hire people to watch the cameras of people who use sites like BOT, kiwifarms and deviantart
all the morons in this thread going "what children??!?!" the ones used in the datasets training the AIs. even if you find one that didn't base it's trash off of real CSAM, you're still a degenerate for trying to find loopholes excusing your desire to abuse children/watch children get abused
I dont want it to be legal for someone to flood the web with that disturbing photorealistic shit
I dont want to have no legal recourse against people using it to troll or spam
Any sharing or distributing should be criminalized to some degree
Same as how they handle minors faces photoshopped on porn
shut up you fricking cuck. you act like you cannot enforce your own rules on your own subreddit or whatever reddit-tier website you browse. you're a huge gay.
Everyone is shitting themselves worrying about AI making most workers obsolete (which will happen), but the one technology that might cause less REAL pizza to be produced is being fought against? Seems counterintuitive to me. If the internet was flooded with fake pizza, there would be a lot less losers paying for the real thing.
>[...] to establish a commission dedicated to studying the impact of AI on child exploitation.
That does seem reasonable and sensible. Perhaps they will find no evidence that one leads to the other and will stop clamping down on it. Perhaps they will find that it actually reduces harm to real children. Yes, I'm sure there will be a fair and objective study regarding the real impact. Oh wait...
if somebody creates csam from a real child's image, I think that pretty clearly should be illegal
but if it's not an actual human, who is the victim? same with the weeb pedos into e-girl and shota. if it's an outlet for the pedos so they dont hurt real children, it seems like something we should try
>it's still THIS easy to dupe morons into supporting your ideological crusades
Yes, slaves- I mean, fellow humans, we need to stop algorithmic generation of images and sounds to protect artists' patreons-I mean, protect the children, of course.
People who generate CSAM should also be investigated.
That would just be the state investigating itself.
Woah cool it with the antisemitic comments
if they're suspected of sharing/possessing actual CSAM, then sure. Otherwise
this, unironically. In contrast to what
and
, you don't even need to train it on real children. A model trained exclusively on CSAM would probably give itself away, since it's borrowing heavily from certain types of images or depictions that could probably be identified by users or even law enforcement.
The US Supreme Court actually had impressive foresight on this.
>pic related
While it's certainly not unfeasible for someone to use CSAM as training material, it wouldn't be something that wouldn't be without risks, nor is it required.
3DCG models, petite adults, 2D pornography, all of these types of images can produce outputs that are just as realistic and satisfactory to put a dent in the CSAM market. It just needs time to thrive, otherwise we'll just be dealing with the same issue quantified exponentially and with a blurrier rationale.
Explain how AI-generated drawing of lewd e-girl is "abusive", it's just moral panic
Pure communist thinking.
Turing who was seen as deviant in his tine defeated Enigma and invented computers.
Turing's only claim to fame in westoid world was being gay when it was illegal. He didn't crack the enigma. Rejewski did.
No one cares anymore. History has been written.
Why
Who is harmed and whos the victim
antisemitic much?
>Jews oppose pedophilia
That NWO doesn't sound so bad.
Did your beloved lose interest in you once you turned old and ugly?
I'm a man
That's no answer to my question.
Big CP
Which is? Dominos? Pizza Hut?
Yup glowies and the global elite are losing their monopoly on CSAM
Kek this is the only reason I can actually think of that alarms would be going off over this. Unfortunately, all 50 states must recognize the first amendment right to generate pixels.
Why, do you think, are they humping Congress to do anything about it? Because the 1st Amendment is part of the federal constitution.
>Big CP
Shh do not call them out you get this website banned.
>Big CP
keks
>>Big CP
>keks
You will own no CP (while the elites have all the CP)
You will not devalue the CP market by AI generated CP (while the elites have all the CP).
CP is for the elites only you pleb.
>downloading videogames and movies for free hurts the videogame and movie industry
>downloading chinese cartoon book pictures... HELPS the chinese cartoon book industry
help me goldberg im going insane
>inb4 can't be compared
>inb4 fundamentally different
>cant be compared
why
>it just cant be
oh
Unironically I blame the professionalization for that cop out.
This.
CP industry doesn't profit from someone downloading CP for free. Banning simple possession makes literally 0 sense and is just an excuse to arrest people, as planting it is very easy for the US government.
Hey, cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>Who is harmed and whos the victim
The OC they are using to train these models.
What do you mean by OC?
They never used actual cp to train loras or checkpoints
>They never used actual cp to train loras or checkpoints
Yeah, right
No one cares about your doubt. The burden is yours to actually proof it.
>wow, you can generate images of buildings made of pasta
>This means the AI must have been trained on pictures of buildings made of pasta!
moron alert
Now try to explain why you aren't using similar images to your boomer dinosaur congressmen. It's impossible. They won't understand. There's a "training" so "obviously" it must have some "image" in there of children.
Yeah, it does, of clothed children.
Of course that just makes it harder to explain, that to be unable to generate child pornography, it must not be capable of generating any pornography.
The most likely outcome of this is to place the burden of proof on you that any model in your possession didn't have any illegal content in it.
>Your Honor, the only children involved in this "CSAM" you found on my hard drive were the chinks at the sweatshop factory assembling the GPUs I used. The images were actually based off my favorite pornstar, Young Monroe, at the LEGAL age of 18, and I will now sue the court for defamation.
Same moral argument as Apple or the FBI doing it. It's all "hashed" right?
It's not about victims friend, it never was.
Correct, it’s all about destroying morally corrupt filth in our society. Pedo murder should be legal no questions asked, like killing a rat on your property.
No one cares about your pathetic morality though, and all you can do about that is cope and seethe.
AI-generated children
Sounds like a matter for AI-jurisdiction, not the real-life one.
Synths are people too
AI-people are not real people.
>whos the victim
nation of ukraine
IIRC the training data contains scrapped CP so it's not victimless as some people might suggest.
How do you know?
Have you seen the training data?
Citation needed.
doubt
>source: my hairy butthole
>Train on adults with clothes
>Train on adults without clothes
>Train on children with clothes
>Let it fill in the blank
>profit?
>IIRC the training data contains scrapped CP
Stable Diffusion's inputs are image URLs on the clearnet, to be downloaded on the spot during the training process.
Very few of those URLs are definitely tagged with CP-related terms and phrases. Most or all of them are not actual CP. For example, banner ads for Brazilian porn sites where the only "8yo" thing in the picture is maybe the woman's boob job. Clickbait for degenerates that, if anything, should only make generating actual CP harder.
Source: querying the LAION 5+ dataset used in SD's training almost a year ago. Other fun findings: there are more pictures tagged with "wedding" than with "blue." Basically, Stable Diffusion is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHotXbGZiFY and ecommerce listings.
IYDETBML (if you are dumb enough to believe my lie) you mean
The US "black budgets" aren't taken directly from the tax payer, they're funded by illicit government enterprises, such as drugs and human trafficking (both things that we know for sure that feds have direct involvement in)
AI will allow blackmailed pedophiles to have plausible deniability. This royally (pun intended) fricks up any power structure that relies on blackmail.
Bingo
When there's a new fake drug in the market that is shifting the customers from using the real drugs, who will try to attack the fake one?
Jews.
Jews. J fricking ews.
It's literally a status symbol, only the elites can look at the forbidden fruit because hurting children is their prerogative. If anyone could have the same without any children involved, this exclusive benefit would be worthless.
I bet that more than half these attorneys have their computers full of the real shit, not just "AI" pictures but actual photographs where they're the ones with those they claim to protect.
Hollywood, if people make ai cp they might watch less simulated softcore cp that Hollywood produces.
I'm all for not criminalizing e-girl stuff (which is obviously cartoons), but photorealistic content is where I draw the line. Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life in order to live the experiences that they watched. What do you think this means for children?
>Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life
kek
>Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life in order to live the experiences that they watched.
Pfffft Hahahahahahahaha
Good one anon
>Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life in order to live the experiences that they watched
Yes, that's why permavirgins never watch porn.
Oh wait.
Ok, I'll concede that my wording was weird. I meant that porn produced a desire in the average man to seek women. Those who feel they can't act on this desire due to personal shortcomings (permavirgins, as you said) turn into incels.
Why do you think this is bait? Can you explain how I'm wrong? I'm always open to learn.
>I meant that porn produced a desire in the average man to seek women
Not really. I'm just getting my rocks off, and after that I'll continue insulting and hating women.
>Pornography is enough to make the average man aroused and seek out women in real life in order to live the experiences that they watched.
Damn, reddit styled pro-government concern posts are incredible bait
Cringe.
Both e-girl hentai and AI child erotica should be legal.
Legal CP is proven to keep pedos from molesting children.
>Milton Diamond, from the University of Hawaii, presented evidence that "[l]egalizing child pornography is linked to lower rates of child sex abuse". Results from the Czech Republic indicated, as seen everywhere else studied (Canada, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Finland, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Sweden, US), that rape and other sex crimes "decreased or essentially remained stable" following the legalization and wide availability of pornography. His research also indicated that the incidence of child sex abuse has fallen considerably since 1989, when child pornography became readily accessible – a phenomenon also seen in Denmark and Japan. The findings support the theory that potential sexual offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex crimes against children. While the authors do not approve of the use of real children in the production or distribution of child pornography, they say that artificially produced materials might serve a purpose.[2]
>Diamond suggests to provide artificially created child pornography that does not involve any real children. His article relayed, "If availability of pornography can reduce sex crimes, it is because the use of certain forms of pornography to certain potential offenders is functionally equivalent to the commission of certain types of sex offences: both satisfy the need for psychosexual stimulants leading to sexual enjoyment and orgasm through masturbation. If these potential offenders have the option, they prefer to use pornography because it is more convenient, unharmful and undangerous (Kutchinsky, 1994, pp. 21)."[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse
>using logic and evidence
Umm, you're supposed to shut off your critical thinking when someone screeches "think of muh children" and allow megacorps to lobby for more laws that destroy privacy and enable state surveillance.
Get with the program, dude.
they don't want to get rid of pedos, they need an easy scapegoat to push their agenda
Okay, thank you for the evidence. That's all I wanted to know. Assuming this is true (I'm too lazy to scrutinize the findings at the moment), then I concede.
It should obvious at this point the government has no intention of actually solving crime because that would lose them votes. It's about keeping everything shit so you can always claim to make it better. Pedos in particular are a great issue to keep around because you can use them as an excuse to enact authoritarian laws.
I just keep wondering why no one has eliminated Grady Judd yet.
Most people are cowards
That's why anti-pedo "heroes" crusade against drawings, AI, dolls and basement dwellers while turning a blind eye on the rich and powerful passing children around like cigarettes
But I thought America was the home of the brave?
That was way back when the accepted answer to women wanting to vote was "get back in the kitchen"
Yeah anon why doesn't people throw away their great lives for a relatively insignificant issue? The only people who do this are losers with nothing to lose.
Because that's LITERALLY how this shitshow of a country got started.
The liberty of grooming children on Discord? I'm not going to equate 1776 to generating CSAM on a GPU.
It's impressive you can type coherently with that much boot in your face.
Work harder in phrasing your argument because optics matter, child.
>optics matter
True, but rather in weeding out cattle such as you.
Anti-pedos are often pedos.
I remember there being a whole image collection of these "the anti-pedo doth protest too much" moments
Nah, the collection I'm talking about was on an archival site, though I'm not surprised to see that THAT site also has its own collection
Good on them for keeping on top of these things
cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>t. pederast
Why don't you answer the question?
Why should I? I will not use my time on pederasts unless it is to rope them.
So you're powerless AND uneducated. Got it.
I think fricking pedophiles is always a good thing ®, but I can't avoid thinking that there's a bunch of AIbros hands over this in order to finally get their so called regulatory capture. Remember how the government is always using "to protect the kids" in order to strip people's rights?
>“While we know Congress is aware of concerns surrounding AI, and legislation has been recently proposed at both the state and federal level to regulate AI generally, much of the focus has been on national security and education concerns,” the letter reads. “And while those interests are worthy of consideration, the safety of children should not fall through the cracks when evaluating the risks of AI.”
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/5/23860412/ai-attorneys-general-50-states-congress-csam
>safety of children
WHAT. CHILDREN.
The ones that will be out of a job because AI can generate a good-enough facsimile of their work.
That shit used to be all over israelitetube.
If you were any party interested in controlling the development of AI then this CSAM is definitely the best excuse you could come up with
I can't wait for the Supreme Court to nuke Congress due to 1st Amendment violations and make bootlickers seethe to death.
Between the Berenson lawsuit and the potential of a radicalised Trump getting back into the White House we could be in for some major lulz.
January 6th 2.0 is more likely than Trump winning though, simply because of all the criminal cases he's got pending. If only one charge sticks he'll likely sit for the rest of his life.
about fricking time.
Even AI pedos deserve the rope.
Have you ever considered that if you mandatorily give pedos the rope they will mandatorily give children the rope, considering that it removes a witness? Or does your inability to look past your next meal simply render you unable to consider that possibility?
>inb4 abused children are better off dead
I concur, but I wouldn't limit it to the "abused" part.
Shut up you edgy paedo homosexual
And if not? Are you gonna be real angry with me again?
>legalize rape so rapists have less of a reason to kill their victims
just have a nice day, pedo
>not giving the rope <=> legalizing it
I love the impotent rage you're extruding.
lets say someone kidnaps someone, if the sentence is death, how many of the kidnappers are going to say frick this shit we are going out together, if caught you have 0 reason to keep the person alive.
but if its just time in jail, you get less murder suicide events, we have had real life cases where this was put in practice, granted they are from 400~ years ago, you would rather have the kidnapped person back alive than dead, even if you wish the person who did it to die, its better they dont for everyone's sake.
the law makes an action illegal, that stops most people from doing said action under any normal circumstance
if the criminals who still do the action have no incentive to not go nuclear, why would they not go nuclear?
Criminals are not known for their strong ability to weigh risk and reward.
yes and no, you have to keep in mind the difference between someone who commits a crime and then someone who is a sociopath by nature.
again, see kidnapping, the reason we don't just kill the fricker for kidnapping or rapeing the person is because if the sentence is death regardless, they are more likely to just kill the person to get rid of any evidence.
its the reason that we treat criminals far FAR differently before they commit a violent act, and after they do.
>if the criminals who still do the action have no incentive to not go nuclear, why would they not go nuclear?
Because if they do, we not only execute them, but we use the best medical technology available to keep them alive as long as possible so we can torture them as excruciatingly as possible in the most horrific of ways imaginable by the human mind. The choice is death, or wish you were. Sadly, you homosexuals just love your little pedo's so much you'll never let justice occur.
The 8th Amendment disagrees with your head cannon.
WRONG
You are not American, opinion discarded
>schizo ramblings
Don't care, take your meds.
Not relevant you moronic pedo, nothing I said would be cruel or unusual punishment for pedo's. But of course you would try to defend yourself, I'm not surprised.
>nothing I said would be cruel or unusual punishment for pedo's
Again, the 8th Amendment disagrees with your head cannon.
Again, not relevant because its not cruel nor unusual punishment for pedo's. Learn to read you fricking pedophile.
You seem to think that your "for pedos" has any relevancy whatsoever. It doesn't.
It does actually, hence why you don't see the death penalty for stealing, because that would be cruel and unusual punishment for theft. It has to be cruel or unusual punishment, it's not cruel or unusual to torture pedophiles. But again I'm not surprised you don't want to be tortured to death because you're a pedophile.
>lots of incoherent ramblings again
There was actually a time where you could be sentenced to death for stealing a horse for instance, but that was before the Supreme Court's ruling in 1976 that stated that it was totally OK to sentence people to death as long as certain standards were upheld (split of trial into guilt and penalty phases with determination of mitigating and aggravating factors, plenty of automatic appeals and so forth). This makes DP cases so bothersome and expensive that legislatures opted to either ban the DP altogether, or only use them in the worst of cases - and even then the penalty isn't supposed to cause unnecessary suffering.
tl; dr: your impotent, incompetent rage is shining through, and I fricking love it.
You don't see death penalty for anything other than murder in America, moron.
anime website
OI YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT 1girl M8?
Thank frick the UK has laws against this well in advance.
>the UK
Clown Island.
>Clown Island
Not exactly the name I had in mind ...
>Currency in dollars
That might be a different clown island my friend
>$
the wienerroaches
pic on the left is exactly the same screens on the scanners we have in australia
this like judging texans for what goes on in new york
Which we do all the time because their votes theoretically influence what the federal government does which affects New York. Even though in practice voting doesn't affect anything anymore, they're not quite ready to drop the pretense, so everything's connected which is why everything everywhere in the world is ALL YOUR FAULT.
>anyone who harms a child, be it sexually or mutilating their genitals before that child can decide themselves what they want to do deserves the same actions forced upon them
>most rapes end with the victim's death
anon is an actual homosexual for his posts and I hope he gets v&
Possession of CSAM is a felony that has to be proven. It's called presumption of innocence, motherfricker.
This is your claim
Prove it
Once they outlaw it, how can they enforce it? Obviously Windows will report keystrokes that are suspicious but Linux doesn't care. Stable Diffusion also works offline and doesn't store your data as far as I know. Maybe feds will easily sieze AI downloaders, repositories, and models to stuff bugs inside of them for monitoring. We still fall under the patriot act. Did Intel ME even report shit to the feds at all yet?
>Obviously Windows will report keystrokes that are suspicious
I want to see them try that, what with all the telemetry removal people can do to an ISO before installing it.
>inb4 it's gonna be reinstalled once connected to the internet
Not with Simplewall it ain't.
>iso
What's the best windows iso for privacy?
The ones you make yourself - that is, OO-ed and MSMG Toolkit-ed ones.
I don't really understand any of those terms, could you please elaborate or link some resources so I can begin to build my own?
Nvidia's market share is gigantic. They are the only ones that truly matter, so they will probably start here.
If they're going to hamfist that shit in like they did their telemetry BS I wouldn't worry too hard.
>but Linux doesn't care
Wokeshit “code of conduct” nonsense will be ‘em posed by entryists.
>code of conduct
has nothing to do with reporting stuff to the feds...
exactly correct
>how can they enforce it?
the same way they enforce hatespeech and other illegal laws. It wont be a real law, just a terms of service agreement, a community guideline, a pretense to start investigations for other things because the target has a demonstrated probable cause by participating in something legal and unrelated what are you some kind of bigot? Stop asking questions. We are in a post law society, they just do whatever they want and everyone is too scared to call them out on it. We no longer have a society where people are willing to stand up simply for the principle of an issue.
>We are in a post law society
Sweet. Let's go kill cops then.
>but Linux
THERE IS A OPERATING SYSTEM INSIDE YOUR PROCESSOR YOU KEK!
Waiting for Risc-V linux support to improve so i can escape x86
riscv is actively developed by china, which is another security clusterfrick
>Waiting for Risc-V linux support
Keep on waiting.
Never will happen or they get build in GSM modems on the chip.
>Waiting for Risc-V linux support to improve so i can escape x86
Daily reminder the Pentium 4 has no IME.
Now the glowies are going to be buying up ll the used pentium 4s anon
It has unique serial numbers THOUGH
there is none, that's not how it works. It can generate a picture of an astronaut riding a horse in Middle Earth, but there's never been a picture of such a thing ever. It's just transposing a child's face and proportions onto a naked adult, or vice versa but there's no evidence that any real csam was used in training anything, this would be highly illegal and would have been prosecuted by now, and it would not be difficult to figure out. why do you see people doing more cartoonish pictures? because there's better reference material, the "realism" models are just resizing the torso of a flat-chested adult and sticking a child's head on top, it's very obvious
>inb4 have a nice day pedo
no, I don't think I will. why don't you come find me tough guy
to clarify, by vice versa I mean it's transposing a naked adult on a child's face and proportions i.e. modifying the size to fit the body
>2023
>outdated CP laws are still around
How the frick haven't Americans realized CP laws are just an excuse to spy on you at this point? Are they moronic?
Imagine the stupidest person that you know.
Now imagine that this person is smarter than 50% of the US.
Now imagine that I lied, and it's actually 80%.
Based Satan-spawn. Can't argue with those numbers.
The stupidest person I know literally doesn't know how to spell words correctly and reads every 3rd word wrong
Have you seen the US illiteracy rates?
People don't realize how moronic it is to have a crime where possession of its evidence is illegal.
CP laws aren't an excuse to spy on people, you silly. They're an excuse to eliminate people.
>make an announcement on the ~~*(news*~~) and ~~*(social media*~~) that an ~~*(insider*~~) has revealed that Person X is totally a child molester and totally has loads of CP in his computer
>either A) the NPCs kill him for you, or B) you get to arrest him with impunity, plant said CP in his computer when it gets brought in as ~~*(evidence*~~) and then jail kills him for you
It's THAT easy. There have already been cases of NPCs murdering innocent people and being let off the hook because "they were trying to protect the children! they killed an innocent but it was a for a ~~*(good cause*~~)!"
serious question, how do you even inspect checkpoints or loras that was *presumely* trained on literal cps?
make training dataset upload to public mandatory before you release checkpoints or loras
otherwise you go to jail
That would violate the presumption of innocence. You never have to prove you're innocent; the state has to prove you guilty.
>You never have to prove you're innocent
and the police can stop and question a random Black person whenever he wants to
Exactly. Any Black person can simply refuse to talk with the pigs, and that's what the Black person should be doing even if he's guilty, seeing as any confession he gives during a police interview will be given for free and can't be argued for in plea deals. If, however, the Black person shuts up, and the cops have nothing else on him, then there's a good chance he walks without a single charge.
>t. paralegal
And this one just for completionist's sake:
Cops don't have to Mirandize you, that is, read the Miranda warning (right to remain silent, right to an attorney free of charge, questioning stops as soon as you clearly say "I want to speak with a lawyer" - also it's NOT "Miranda rights", only a "Miranda warning" about your constitutional rights) unless you are in custody. They can simply invite you for a talk without telling you any of that shit and let you dig your own grave, and everything is going to be admissible in court.
In short: never ever EVER talk to the police.
Ever. Seriously, I mean it.
>Black person refused to cooperate
>shot to death
You're confusing police interviews with arrests. If the cops have an arrest warrant or probable cause they can arrest you, and once they do they can use deadly force if you resist. That doesn't prevent you from refusing an interview and asking for a lawyer; all that's gonna happen in that case is that you'll be booked into the local jail (because you've been arrested, after all). You'll then appear before a judge who will appoint legal counsel and set your bond.
Basically make it a huge burden to investigate and make such investigations mandatory so no private citizen can manage it and all major venues have draconian rules as a result.
can i have a list of tensors or loras that are suspected for being trained on csam? for filtering purposes. i dont want to have them in my devices and network.
i know one called *staber but thats kinda outdated by now. pedocoomers would probably have made something with higher quality by now.
only glowpigs can have that power
I thought CSAM was one of those funny squares that you can spend one air to ground missile on in Ace Combat for some bonus points
They can't stop it without going full 1984 and I somehow doubt that general public would support that, even if it screws pedos.
Some pedo in his NEET-apartment fapping to imaginary children is not a threat to anyone. Denying him of the material will just make him turn to the dark web and download his fix from there and that shit is literal children suffering to produce fapping material.
Though it would not be surprising if they manage to get some beyond 1984 going in few countries/states. Culminating in mandatory thought/memory scans once the technology allows it, which is not that far off anymore. 50 to 100 years for accurate thought reading of images, sound and video. That will get all pedos and criminals BTFO.
>thought/memory scans
That will ironically be the end of authoritarianism as everybody will be able to see that what the people who want to rule over others think.
>everybody will be able to see that what the people who want to rule over others think
ahahhahaahahhahaha
>he thinks the tech would be used on the ruling class
Some shithead will, and then the public will forget about it the next day because they're all indoctrinated NPCs who're better off dead.
There are no innocents, only target practice.
>>he thinks the tech would be used on the ruling class
Sir you forgot your picture
he thinks the tech would be used on the ruling class
ahahhahaahahhahaha
>end of authoritarianism
LOL.
The same way cameras are a end to authoriterianism?
You know since we all can see what Jeff Bezos is doing.
Oh wait their data is hidden and you get accused of cyber staling if you ask for it while the NSA waches you 24/7.
Enjoy your life pleb.
scans
Technology will create a nightmare control scenario that was unimaginable 200 years ago.
>is not a threat to anyone.
You are not thinking in totalitarianism.
Would you like the
>Protect from the terrorists
or the
>Protect the children
Excuse?
I want to protect the terrorists.
You're a defeatist. You say the NSA is watching everybody. What did they achieve with that tremendous power? Convince me the NSA is something else than a psyop to create a Hawthorne effect on a mass scale.
>. You say
All I'm saying is that we should have nuked ourselves in the Cuban missile crisis (1962) [good timeline]. What we are experiencing now is the bad timeline.
Take the nuclear pill anon.
They can't break encryption
>that shit is literal children suffering to produce fapping material
Thank frick I was born without a conscience.
>that shit is literal children suffering to produce fapping material
Is it though? Much of it is just kids recording themselves jerking off in front of a webcam.
how would you know
finally.
just ban all AI research
Not gonna happen.
no AI for the goyim that's for sure
Go jerk a leaf kaczynski
the solution is simple, full BAN on GPUs
they are dangerous weapons
You need gpus to play video games.
full ban on video games
Alright, then I'll start killing cops in real life instead of killing them in GTA. Who's with me?
do it now, coward.
>implying I'm not doing so already
You can play video games on a console or only on a government approved GPU that requires key verification from the video game for it to run the signed code
GPUs that run unsigned code are dangerous weapons only used by criminals
Guess I'll turn criminal then.
And also kill cops in real life, since, y'know, I'm a criminal now and I've got nothing to lose.
Cloud services are the future that goyim will be put on. That includes general computational tasks like playing video games.
Software renderers exist
>You need gpus to play video games.
>goyim, you dont need a gpu, you can steam games from this device we will rent to you :^)
>antisex
the current trend is not antisex, but antireproduction.
>how does this effect my chinese cartoon book pictures
because good looking porn gives you the motivation to find a good looking partner and reproduce. Part of the current agenda for population control is to subvert your natural inclination for sex = reproduction and replace it with sex = recreation. Just like equality quietly morphed into equity, sex being solely for pleasure is the new normal they are trying to social engineer. This plays into the childfree life style they promote which helps normalize LGBTQ. If sex is only for fun, then it wont matter if you are gay, or asexual, or trans. If, in principle, the purpose of sex is to not make babies, then anything goes as long as the state allows it.
and they dont even have to enforce it realistically. as long as its on the books as a tool to use, then they can add it to the list of trumped up charges whenever the state wants to move on someone for whatever reason.
sorry anon, but that's only for the unelected neo-artistocrats and their imaginary friend, the legal-liability free corporation. The middle class still must follow the rules, because thats the rule 🙂
>The middle class still must follow the rule
Sweet! I'll fill out my resignation form, and then it's time to make cops dance for their lives!
>Part of the current agenda for population control is to subvert your natural inclination for sex = reproduction and replace it with sex = recreation.
But letting people have recreational sex with AI would promote that mindset, so it's not that. I think it's just because AI is controlled by israelites and Indians, two groups who tend to be traditionalist and sex-negative.
They aren't interested in population control, they just want to get rid of white people.
You can run AI on CPU or specialized hardware like TPU or NPU
CPUs are too slow to do anything dangerous
TPUs and NPUs will be allowed for select businesses with a government license
I wouldn't care about this if I knew they were ONLY going to ban CP, but the problem is that they'll ban all sex. AI ethicists have shown themselves to be antisexuals who hate all sex. So now I'll be lumped in with pedophile CP generators if I try to have AI milf sex or get it to say something the ethicists deem unwoke.
yeah yeah the main source are undeleted torrents
also
What?
They download CSAM from torrents as main source to generate AI-generated CSAM
So what was the crossthread for?
both
So you're saying PTG has CSAM? If so I think it would be banned by now?
Having some forbidden pixels on your computer that you can be thrown in jail for generating, yeah I just don't see how the government would ever abuse such a thing at all. Especially when they raid your house and can't find anything incriminating but have a huge incentive to want to get you on something.
>"Your Honor, the creation date on the file in question was mere minutes after officers arrived to serve the warrant for suspicion of posting mean things on Facebook. Our forensics team have concluded the only possible explanation is that the suspect had been generating the images as we entered the premises."
You got it.
they could just use their actual CSAM stash for that 2bh
this should turn out at least as well as the war on drugs
How many times are innocent people going to effectively get SWATed by false positives before anyone realizes it's a bad idea? Or will that just be the "cost of doing business"?
Principles are a parody in the face impetuitey.
pedophiles continue to ruin life for everyone else.
More like glowies and their useful idiots.
>blaming the pedos
were right after all.
>attorney generals
It's Attorneys General. What a fricking homosexual!
There are furry models, trained on furry art, that are absolutely terrible at realistic stuff. There are (human-centered) realistic models, not trained on anything furry, that suck at furry stuff. There are known merges that, using only those models as ingredients, can generate photorealistic furry stuff that was impossible with either of the original models, more so, photorealistic furry creatures that simply don't exist to begin with and are entirely synthetic. This has been done, it's not a theoretical scenario, it's not an experiment related to what's being discussed here, and it can be replicated.
Point is, the idea that models like those they want to ban could only exist if they were trained on the real deal is simply preposterous. It's false. It's a malicious lie. It's not about protecting anyone, it's just the millionth case of control for the sake of control using the "think of the children" bullshit as an excuse.
The funny thing is that I AM thinking about the children.
Constantly. :^)
Thoughts shouldn't be illegal though.
If awareness that people have offensive thoughts is that unbearable for the majority, dealing the backhand in full looks optimal.
they just make shit up and normies believe it.
Pedophiles btfo
idk wth this has to do with AI technology
This is only being done to prevent blackmail inflation. Watch for details: https://invidious.io.lol/watch?v=xlmhhh9HYqc
> AI bros
have a nice day gaygitor.
ACK! Ban photoshop too.
I'm so glad China is going to dissolve the US's pathetic illusion of rule of law.
>implying rule of law not an illusion
>implying your English skills are not an illusion
Why don't we use AI to hack systems and kill people?
>MGS2 intensifies
I was just thinking about this. How much of the population are actually pedophiles? I would say it is less than 1% but even if its higher like 2%, and we already have tools to deal with these """"people"""" why is there always such a knee jerk reaction? Control. When its a slow news day, attack pedophilia and pass laws to take more freedom and privacy from normal citizens.
>if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
I have nothing to hide, and I am not a pedophile. I run Windows 11 with full telemetry because I don't care. I am not going to waste my energy hating on less than 1%. Seems like a monumental waste of energy. I hate sin in every form and view it as a sickness that needs to be addressed for sure. Chipping away at freedoms is not the way. They set up all these laws because they know it affects so little people and most people wont care or celebrate them for doing it. I don't hate pedos because I don't hate the rest of the LGBT and I want everyone to repent and be saved by Jesus. I would rather them spend the resources to deal with the Black person problem we currently face. They won't because that costs money.
I tell you this right now, most cops I know are getting ready for a shtf situation. They are going to go home and arm themselves and stick together with their families and loved ones. All this is a slide event to keep your eyes off of what they are actually doing.
>their families and loved ones
No one loves cops. People who're not completely brainwashed bootlickers cheer whenever another pig gets put in a casket.
>inb4 their families
Are virtue-signalling, nothing more.
>population are actually pedophiles?
The only artist who speaks the truth of our times.
>jealous old women
That's right, you're old.
>I tell you this right now, most cops I know are getting ready for a shtf situation. They are going to go home and arm themselves and stick together with their families and loved ones.
Those other two replies tried pretty hard to change the subject away from this. The police officers/other LE that I know are doing the same.
>the current trend is not antisex, but antireproduction.
This is saddening. It's a blow to my heart every time I meet a nice woman, even if I don't want to date her, who has fallen into the brainwashing of not wanting to start a family. Last three that I did date it turned out they didn't want to have kids (or any more kids). It's fatiguing beyond belief. I'll have my own family someday but damn society is fricked.
I also think that I'm talking to the same (You) with both of these replies.
>who has fallen into the brainwashing of not wanting to start a family
In my perspective it's starting a family that's the brainwashing.
So are erections, I guess...
really?
Actual numbers are 15-20% preferential (higher arousal response to 8-11yo stimulus than 18-23) and ~3% exclusive (measurable arousal response to 8-11 and none to 18-23). For reference, prevalence of left handedness is 10%, homosexuality is 3%.
Reminder that if you support the criminalization of CP, you don't belong on BOT.
the government must perish.
Just the anglos
Name one woe in the world that wasn't caused by anglos
I see your nose from here
Israel was caused by anglos anon
>Israel wasn't OUR fault...
The fricking nerve of you "people"
Alcohol bros it's over.
fug not me alcy
"To study the impact..." uh huh sounds like an excuse to visit FBI headquarters for a private screening of the best of their stash, get properly wound-up, and then they're off to Epstein Island for a cocaine and viagara-fueled weekend of exploiting children.
Why don't we start cracking down on the cp collection that the NSA has first?
Are you ready to murder military personnel by the millions and trigger a secessionist revolution? Because that is what it would take.
>our federal taxes go to protecting the child porn stash of a federal agency with military personnel
god I love this country
Well, it doesn't need to be
>this country
literally just outlaw all pictures of children on the internet so the chuds can't train
then make it required to have a facecam to use a computer and hire people to watch the cameras of people who use sites like BOT, kiwifarms and deviantart
I've got a better idea:
>just outlaw the government
What is a child?
Someone who can suck my dick standing.
Warwick Davis is a child!?!
You know what, sure. At least for my purposes.
wow another pedo bait thread
all the morons in this thread going "what children??!?!" the ones used in the datasets training the AIs. even if you find one that didn't base it's trash off of real CSAM, you're still a degenerate for trying to find loopholes excusing your desire to abuse children/watch children get abused
You sound impotent.
You still haven’t answered the question.
Go back to Twitter if you don't have an argument beyond your emotions.
I dont want it to be legal for someone to flood the web with that disturbing photorealistic shit
I dont want to have no legal recourse against people using it to troll or spam
Any sharing or distributing should be criminalized to some degree
Same as how they handle minors faces photoshopped on porn
Emotions may count for something on reddit, but this isn't it.
>Any sharing or distributing should be criminalized to some degree
so like torrents
shut up you fricking cuck. you act like you cannot enforce your own rules on your own subreddit or whatever reddit-tier website you browse. you're a huge gay.
>Failed to UOOOOOH
We need to just like put everyone who is registered to vote in a camp or at least sterilize these backward Statists.
>Google ban Stable diffusion for colab
Is not fair ;_;
Porn detecting software already exists. Just upgrade it to detect digital CP and ban that from being shared on discord etc.
>Think of the children!
Okay, let's talk about Epstein island.
>Not those ones!
guess 10 torrent search engines that contains that.
Everyone is shitting themselves worrying about AI making most workers obsolete (which will happen), but the one technology that might cause less REAL pizza to be produced is being fought against? Seems counterintuitive to me. If the internet was flooded with fake pizza, there would be a lot less losers paying for the real thing.
Life starts making more sense when you realize it's never about "protecting the children"
Think anon, why would these lawmakers be against fewer people paying for CP?
What you idiots fail to address is there's already code in each SD ui that logs what you prompt.
We must protect the imaginary children.
Why must we protect children in the first place?
>inb4 they're our future
Exactly. It's time to stop.
Israel is lit.
>[...] to establish a commission dedicated to studying the impact of AI on child exploitation.
That does seem reasonable and sensible. Perhaps they will find no evidence that one leads to the other and will stop clamping down on it. Perhaps they will find that it actually reduces harm to real children. Yes, I'm sure there will be a fair and objective study regarding the real impact. Oh wait...
Lots of pedo sickies in here I hope you guys get locked up and treated
I hope I get to murder you someday.
if somebody creates csam from a real child's image, I think that pretty clearly should be illegal
but if it's not an actual human, who is the victim? same with the weeb pedos into e-girl and shota. if it's an outlet for the pedos so they dont hurt real children, it seems like something we should try
There are 3 clear victims anon.
Your soul
My eyes
>implying anon cares
>implying I have a soul
>implying I care about your eyes
>He doesn't care about his victims
Typical child rapist mentality
Which """""victims"""""? :^)
souls dont exist and i saw my first beheading video when i was 7. my eyes are ruined beyond repair
im not a pedo so maybe it wouldn't work, but if it helps even 1 less child get abused i think it's worth investigation even if it's repugnant
Just like fully synthetic ivory would destroy the ivory market, I think CSAM will make CP worthless. I think it's a win-win.
Everyone disable any graphics card firmware updates. We all know what they will try to pull now.
On no, won't someone think of the AI generated children, never mind the shit that happens to actual kids, le technology bad!!
Good. Ai is gay and pedophiles are equally inhuman.
I hope a pedophile does your children.
He doesn't have children and neither do you.
You are evil, like all pedos.
You sound impotent, like all bootlickers.
You sound upset, like all wienersuckers
The discovery of oil virtually eliminated whaling. How does CSAM not effectively do the same to CP?
What are they gonna do, pry the GPU from my PC?
>it's still THIS easy to dupe morons into supporting your ideological crusades
Yes, slaves- I mean, fellow humans, we need to stop algorithmic generation of images and sounds to protect artists' patreons-I mean, protect the children, of course.