ai art should simply not exist

ai art should simply not exist

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    stop making digital art.
    and start making tangible art.
    problem solved.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      On one hand, we have printers.
      On the other hand, we have programmable robotic arms that can feasibly create paintings they've been programmed to replicate from digital. Extremely difficult to do with the current interfaces and limits of today's firmware, but it shouldn't take much investment to pull off.

      digital "art" has never been and will never be art.

      It's just a commodity like money. It has whatever value the party gives it and will always have value as a store of value.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    You cannot fight the technological tide, why even bother?
    People really think they can just turn back the clock a bit because the way things are going makes them uncomfortable. It's so arrogant.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's exactly how I feel about AI-hating artists. Their only 'criticism' of AI art is 'Hurr-durr, it is now possible to generate pictures for free, therefore my life is ruined'. If your trade can be replaced this easily, you never had a real trade.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree but your last sentence is moronic; everything will at some point be capable of being completely automated

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If we're going to defend the merits of capitalism and the "free market" (lol), I must defend the increased productivity and efficiency that comes with obsoleting human labor. Humans have needs that impede productivity, time sinks that take them away from work. Computers and machines will work constantly until they fail, as long as they have their required resources, and they don't need to be compensated individually and will never complain about labor rights or work conditions.

    This is the "free market" at work, that you defend.
    You lose.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    digital "art" has never been and will never be art.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      but sharpy markers on a toilet bowl is art

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    surrogate activities

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    daily gpt thread

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    This autist also needs to get off their high horse.
    8-fricking-billion humans on the planet with more on the way.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >being good
    >give me
    Who cares what some fricking ESL shitter thinks. Stopped reading right there. Kys.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I need to dig holes with my bare hands to feel fulfilled

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      ??? There was literally nothing about digging holes in that post tho? Is this a bot post?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You hear about Black folk posting on this site but then you're always shocked when a moron replies to you. Read the highlighted part of the image, and consider how "digging with your hands bringing fulfillment" applies.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah i read the entire post and there's literally no mention of digging with your hands insight. Please circle it if I missed it (I know I didnt, your just a schizo)

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        too be fair, you need pretty high IQ to understand analogies

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ai art should simply not exist
    Degenerate art should not exist, nor should degenerates.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ai art should simply not exist
    yet it does.

    how will you cope with your cognitive dissonance?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      i will attend some lectures on gunpowder and mess around with pipes

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's a valid concern. By the time AI gets advanced enough to outperform real artists and have its own sense of individuality, then we're all fricked and we should be more concerned about the survival of the human race

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit an AI just flied over my house its over for us humanbros

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You know exactly what I meant by that. Once AI is indistinguishable from humans and replicates art without any soul or variety, do you really believe anyone will find fulfillment or enjoyment in art or simply being alive? No, you should also consider what uncanny valley means because that's ultimately where AI is headed

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Once AI is [fanfiction]
          you put too much effort and too little thought into this bait

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's called foresight anon. It may not be happening right now, but it will happen eventually.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >do you really believe people can be happy if robots can doodle as well as them
          Is that a real fricking question

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You misunderstand. This is hypothetical if AI replaced all forms of art (literature, visual art, music, etc.)

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, so? Why would I stop enjoying life just because a robot can do art better than me? That doesn't even stop me from doing art, just stops me from monetizing it

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's a funny way to replace the human condition and the purpose of art to begin with

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                The purpose of art is to express yourself. You're free to do it and I'm sure your loved ones will still enjoy your doodles, you're just not free to make money with it.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I'm not making "doodles", nobody is disputing artists can still express themselves. The problem will happen when AI replaces all human likeness and removes all human elements from art itself

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                your schizo rambling make no sense bro

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Try working on your reading comprehension man.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ai removes all human elements from art itself
                this is absolute nonsense, literally words put together with no meaning attached

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Once AI is indistinguishable from humans and replicates art without any soul or variety
                If it lacks soul and variety then apparently human artists would still be needed to make art with soul and variety, in your scenario.

                >AI replaces all human likeness and removes all human elements from art itself
                Well then that AI art won't be popular and won't replace human art will it? Whatever becomes popular with humans will be appealing to humans, don't worry about that. Somehow I doubt AI art won't be able to appeal to humans though, humans are pretty simplistic

                It would quite literally make all of the human condition purposeless and any struggle meaningless, why would anyone attempt to express themselves once AI slop destroys every artform? I'm not sure you've thought this through to the full extent

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It would quite literally make all of the human condition purposeless and any struggle meaningless
                you can already use this argument for human geniuses
                >noooo michaelangelo existed, why should i bother drawing 🙁 the west has fallen...

                >why would anyone attempt to express themselves once AI slop destroys every artform
                for the same reason they wanted to express themselves before the ai. you have no idea what art is

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I said nothing about human geniuses. I said "in the likeness of humans", which AI will eventually be able to replicate (see: uncanny valley)

                >you have no idea what art is
                Alright man.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                i still have no idea what "ai art" has to do with human desire of expressing yourself through art

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It would quite literally make all of the human condition purposeless and any struggle meaningless
                you're such a fricking moron. i really don't know why people say or think moronic things like this. have you ever just painted random crazy shit in an emotional frenzy? or made a bunch of noise with your band-mates while you all go insane for an hour or 2 smashing beer bottles and screaming into your mics? too this day, one of my fondest memories was writing a song in like 30 minutes in high-school called "Black folk in heat", some fricking moronic grindcore/hardcore piece that climaxed in all 4 band members smashing the shit out of a single symbol for about 1 minute at the end.

                the idea that a computer could somehow become a replacement for the emotional release of certain types of art is fricking moronic. kys you homosexual. i really fricking hate you morons.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a musician anon.

                Nonetheless, it will happen one day

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                ..and how would that stop people from making music the old way? There is a complete lack of consideration for human agency in your posts, are you severerly autistic or something?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                All you've done is throw around ad hominems and fallacies so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Yes, anyone can continue to make art, the question is whether AI will demoralize everyone and become indistinguishable from humans creating art

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >demoralize everyone
                Why? As a musician you must be used to your work being completely irrelevant and not sneeded by anyone. Are you laboring under the delusion that you'll be a big rock star or something? I have friends with musical talent, they just sort of play an instrument all the time. They just like it. You can't demoralize them, they just like doing it

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                yet you haven't explained a single cognizant reason for WHY the existence of AI art would demotivate people to such a degree. what catharsis is there in listening to a piece of music a computer wrote vs composing your own?? you haven't been able to give a single answer to that.

                rest assured tons of people out there can probably write far better pieces of music than you can, far faster. does that somehow diminish the enjoyment you get when creating music? are you fricking moronic? seriously... do you have some form of fricking brain damage? misanthropic homosexuals are the fricking worst.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, anyone can continue to make art, the question is whether AI will demoralize everyone and become indistinguishable from humans creating art
                The answer is no it won't demoralize anyone except morons like you. That's what everyone is trying to tell you. Anyone who has an INNATE desire to make art won't give two shits about whether an AI could make something better, only people who do it for updoots and attention will care which will only be for the better.
                >All you've done is throw around ad hominems and fallacies
                ???
                I'm just expressing my bewilderment at the fact that you don't even deem it necessary to explain how stable diffusion existing would force everyone to stop making art any other way.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Believe me, I'm not demoralized at all. The future artists will be

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Both putting words into my mouth and implying shit I never said.
                It is not happening now, but it will happen in the future. Enjoy

                You are just asserting the same shit over and over again without any argument.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                wait so your argument as to why this is going to demoralize people is basically
                >it's just going to happen bro trust me
                and then you readily admit that it's had no effect on you.
                amazing.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                how? in what fricking way? how is listening to the music a computer made ever going to compare with improvising with your bandmates? that's a fricking moronic idea. that's insanely moronic. that's so fricking moronic i think i've taken like 10 points of permanent IQ damage just from reading your moronic idea. kys.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why would I express myself I don't get money and adoration in return???
                You're not an artist are you. I've drawn and written a lot of stuff that I never plan to show anyone, because I enjoy drawing and writing. I don't do it for attention or money, AI existing doesn't change anything for me. You do art because you enjoy doing art, that's the human condition you keep talking about

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                ??? Make art for yourself, not for others. You are a clout-obsessed zoomie have a tantrum that AI art will make it harder for you to get the online attention you so crave. You don’t care about any of the human spirit you are ranting about.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why would I express myself I don't get money and adoration in return???
                You're not an artist are you. I've drawn and written a lot of stuff that I never plan to show anyone, because I enjoy drawing and writing. I don't do it for attention or money, AI existing doesn't change anything for me. You do art because you enjoy doing art, that's the human condition you keep talking about

                Both putting words into my mouth and implying shit I never said.
                It is not happening now, but it will happen in the future. Enjoy

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It is not happening now, but it will happen in the future. Enjoy
                what will happen? if a person likes the act of drawing, and expressing himself by drawing, explain how AI has ANY impact on this person.

                the only people ai will kill are paintpigs, and that's a good thing

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have already been replaced 🙂
                Go buy some crayola and make some doodles kid

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                xD

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >AI replaces all human likeness and removes all human elements from art itself
                Well then that AI art won't be popular and won't replace human art will it? Whatever becomes popular with humans will be appealing to humans, don't worry about that. Somehow I doubt AI art won't be able to appeal to humans though, humans are pretty simplistic

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Once AI is indistinguishable from humans and replicates art without any soul or variety
          If it lacks soul and variety then apparently human artists would still be needed to make art with soul and variety, in your scenario.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    art should not be a profession. it's something you should do in your free time, because it makes you happy. the only reason artgays are seething is because they think they should be able to keep getting away with being paid for a hobby

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trust me, anyone can be good at art
    >how do i know this?
    >because i, a sample size of a single person, was able to improve into being really good
    >since everyone else starts out like me (really bad), that means everyone else would be really great too
    I hate how common this line of thinking is, dont even care about anything else, this single justification of "it happened to me so it will happen to everyone else" is used to justify so many crappy opinions. I hope he enjoys living the mediocre life like everyone else without a talent

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    finally someone who is honest about their motivations for hating AI art
    fortunately those motivations don't have any moral significance and also they belie a childish attitude to artistic production which is sadly shared by a lot of people

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ai art should simply not exist
    why
    I have yet to hear/read a good reason

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      me mediocre, unga bunga, me no want other know, other people not as mediocre, other people better, too easy, unga bunga, no pride for me, pride for them, they happy, me sad, me mad they happy, unga bunga

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      When you get past all the arguments of ethics and stealing, it ultimately just boils down to "it's not fair", because it's too fast and efficient compared to a human copying a style or art the traditional way

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't fair when digital artists replaced trad artists, wasn't fair when photobashers took jobs from people who painted everything by hand, wasn't fair when people started tracing 3D models and placing them into photobashed environments. They were awfully fricking quiet throughout all of that though

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        no good reason then.
        these new software allowed me to generate assets for my various projects, I don't have to waste money and time with some unreliable humans so it's an absolute win to me.
        jobs come and go, I wish artists the best of luck in their professional reconvertion, billions have done it before, billions will do it in the future also, they will survive just fine.
        they can still do art on the side, not everything has to be a job, they can also exploit the occasion to make an human-made label or some shit, I'm sure there is a market for that.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    most people have never cared where their entertainment comes from
    these people didn't matter and in an era where everyone can blasts themselves with content at unprecedented speeds, it matters even less

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    homie JUST GET A JOB HAHAHA SENSE OF USEFULNESS HAHAHA LIKE homie JUST GO DIG A HOLE OR SOMETHING HAHAHAHA

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trad painters are replaced by digital artist
    This is fine, says digital artist
    >digital artists are replaced by artists photobashing their "concept" "art"
    This is fine, says photobashing artist who now does less work for same pay
    >photobashing artists start to use 3D models to help light their photobashes and to place characters around it
    This is fine, says photobasher as he gets even more money for even less work
    >3D using photobashers are replaced by AI
    NOOOOOO THIS IS THE END OF ART MY ARTWORK HAS SOUL, says photobasher calmly

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      wtf is photobashing?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly what it sounds like, a photo collage. Yeah most landscapes in modern concept art are just photo collages with some photoshop filters on. And most characters in modern concept art are traced 3D models, with extra detail drawn on top.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          random sd gens are way better than photobashing then

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ai art should simply not exist
    It's a reasonable fear, but ultimately a.i. is just another tool and a good artist is going to use it to make better art.
    It's a shovel. What it does depends on the hands of he or xe who wields it.

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >clicks a button
    >destroys an entire industry

    ahhhhhhhh

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    do not redeem the diffusion sir

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    This shit will replace 9 jobs. In fact, it will create more.
    Mark my words morons.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      0*

      Well I'm sorry for those 9 guys at any rate.

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >being good at art gave me a sense of belonging and a sense of usefulness
    >now that AI can do it i've lost that sense of belonging and usefulness
    holy shit what a fricking moron. he literally immediately contradicts his point about his art skill giving him a sense of belonging. if "being good at art" was really what gave him a sense of belonging, then computers being good at it wouldn't have had any effect on his sense of purpose.
    >i will lose my sense of belonging because people won't appreciate my art anymore
    yep, and there it fricking is; admittance that it was never about being good at art for the sake of creating something beautiful; it was about being RECOGNIZED as being good at art. when you get down to it with these morons, it's always the same thing that underlies their entire ethos, they talk about how much they love art and how it completes them as a person and then they immediately explain how they've lost their motivation because a computer can do it. fricking pathetic. i have 0 respect for these fricking losers.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >yep, and there it fricking is; admittance that it was never about being good at art for the sake of creating something beautiful; it was about being RECOGNIZED as being good at art.
      nail on head

      Yeah I'm not making "doodles", nobody is disputing artists can still express themselves. The problem will happen when AI replaces all human likeness and removes all human elements from art itself

      >The problem will happen when AI replaces all human likeness and removes all human elements from art itself

      [...]
      [...]
      It would quite literally make all of the human condition purposeless and any struggle meaningless, why would anyone attempt to express themselves once AI slop destroys every artform? I'm not sure you've thought this through to the full extent

      >why would anyone attempt to express themselves once AI slop destroys every artform?
      Because they still want to express themselves? I don't see how that's supposed to be some kind of gotcha. I don't even see how AI slop would "destroy" an artform, when it is strictly adding another artform alongside an existing artform without touching the existing one. Even though stable diffusion exists you can still do oil painting in the footsteps of the old masters, or draw with alcohol markers and fineliners, or anything. I don't see where any "destruction" is supposed to come from.
      Also there is an internal contradiction in your statements because you assume at the same time that AI art will always be shit in some way (lacking the human element), while also assuming that it will nevertheless completely conquer all other artforms. If AI art is as shit as you say, it well therefore not be able to conquer human-made art. If it's not as shit as you say, then it may conquer human art but it won't be as much of a problem as you suggest.

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did you censor the username ? This isnt discord

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >art major
    >implying anyone gives a shit

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