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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need to be paid to do art. Some might even say art is at its best when not paid for by someone and created spontaneously, without someone ordering "one art please" from some McArtist.

    Artists aren't entitled to be paid a living for their work.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      good point, no replies

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      False, if I want to commission a truly great comic of myself getting married to Fluttershy, then I should pay the artist for the effort and attention to detail they've put in. I'm not saying that everybody should be an artist, but a human is still more intelligent than even the best deep learning systems, and therefore they will be able to produce better art, if at the very least because they can now use an ai artist as a tool to accelerate their workflow in planning.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Depends what you understand as intelligence. If it’s the “reasoning” capability and ability to perform tasks, according to research LLMs are already exceeding human capabilities in several fields, which is only expected to increase in the future

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a human is still more intelligent than even the best deep learning systems
        depending on how general you are. Do you mean "the best deep learning systems" right now? Then sure. Ever? Then that's a logical flaw in your argument.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least for right now, but even then, when the AI artist does get better and better, I don't know, I'd just rather have something that's meant to be expressive and emotional still be produced by someone that can feel those expressions and emotions, it makes the art feel more valuable to me. I mean, I like Vocaloid music, but part of the reason I love the songs so much is that despite the robotic tones, which I mean I do like, but the stories the feelings the song content is what I really connect with and come back to.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a white male incel with a STEM degree btw. In case that wasn't obvious.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >by someone that can feel those expressions and emotions
            You're assuming there will never be a form of artificial life that can "feel".
            Or you're assuming that precisely because it is artificial, it cannot ever "feel". Even though most emotions humans feel and understand are on a completely different level than animals, thus logic would say that these emotions are not rooted in biology, but in cognition.

            I'm a white male incel with a STEM degree btw. In case that wasn't obvious.

            Same but not sure how that's relevant

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            homosexual do you really think all artists do that to "feel" emotions? Most of them do it for quick bucks by drawing your most degenerate fetish. That's why they're mad now since it prevents them to overcharge you for middle schooler tier art

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Barneygay you missed a spot

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Some might even say art is at its best when not paid for by someone and created spontaneously
      Art is best done when done by yourself. And I'm not talking about "comissioning artists", just pick a brush or pencil or whatever and do it yourself you fricking lazy homosexual. Acquire a skill that requires precise hand movements, your brain is literally addicted to this shit but you don't know since you've never tried it yourself. Asking AI to do art for you is no different than comissioning an artist.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >spending years to properly learn an useless skill that’ll get you absolutely nothing in life
        Cringe way to throw away years of your life

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >T. Nihilist
          Any hobby is useless with your mindset. Just spend your years away aimlessly doing nothing or wageslaving like goyim cattle instead, I'm sure you prefer that.

          True, art is very fun to do by oneself, but what if the project is going to take too much time out of my very busy schedule? Then I need to offload the work that I want done to an artist that will accept compensation for the hours I'm asking them to pour over Fluttershy's beautiful eyes, hooves, mane, wings, etc.

          Valid point but I'm not big into that, so comissioning would be meaningless to me.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            There’s the useless hobbies and the hobbies you can make real money from, like mechanical engineering
            Most “artists” earn well below bare minimum living wage, and the “successful” ones can’t even compete with most expert salaries

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The purpose of hobbies is to earn money
              The israelite mindfricked you to the point of no return. Have you learned nothing from the "senior programmer that wants to be a farmer" meme? It's absolutely not about money, and many people don't care about living a luxurious life and would prefer to live a simpler life. Sure, being able to earn a lot of money with your hobby is a bonus, but if you have to work on it professionally until it sucks all soul out of your hobby it's pointless. Ideally you work and hobby are either separate so you can still feel fulfillment from it, since you must be very lucky to get a non-freelancer job that involves your hobby nd is not soul-crushing.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doing something without the perspective of benefitting from it is quite stupid though. Sure if it’s something that takes like few hours or a weekend it’s whatever, but several years? That’s a massive waste of potential income that you could use to buy a new sports car or whatever. Its absolutely more worth it having this eventually suck out fun from the hobby, than doing something for years unpaid, or paid very little

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the only benefit from anything is money!
                lel

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Literally is, and before you say “muh happiness” money can buy you more happiness than the activity alone can bring

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, you'll talk about wasted time and income in the same sentence you propose buying a fricking sports car, as if that isn't one of the worst thinkable wastes of money.

                I think I'll continue enjoying my hobbies, finding meaning in my creative pursuits and improving my skills for the sake of personal fulfilment and self-development, but you're free to enjoy your fancy vroom vroom anon.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not a wasted income I’m talking about, it’s the wasted potential income which makes a difference, it’s the money you could have earned in meanwhile. The sports car is an example, can be whatever you enjoy, a datacenter grade GPU, a ship, a fricking minigun or whatever fulfills you

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can be whatever you enjoy
                like, you know, creating things that have value to you beyond monetization

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Materialism is truly the prime mental illness of our time

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Doing something without the perspective of benefitting from it is quite stupid though.
                Becoming a subjectively better person, and an objectively more skilled one. The point is the dopamine that you brain releases (naturally, don't even try to equate masturbation or something like that to a hobby) and the product that gets out of it.
                >Sure if it’s something that takes like few hours or a weekend it’s whatever, but several years?
                >That’s a massive waste of potential income that you could use to buy a new sports car or whatever.
                Again, mindfricked by the israelite. I (as many others) do not care about the latest product. I do not care about owning a sports car, I do not care about owning a McMansion, I do not care about having the latest released hardware in my PC, I just don't.
                >Its absolutely more worth it having this eventually suck out fun from the hobby, than doing something for years unpaid, or paid very little
                You have never had a real hobby, and I'm not even an artist to gatekeep art or whatever. You have never felt the dopamine rush of your weeks, months or even years of effort bearing fruit towards not the money that your creating could've brought you, but that which you created. You have never felt the human need to be the master of their craft, not for money or prestige but just because.
                Arguing at this point is meaningless. I just hope you can one day be free of your consumerist mindset.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You have never felt the dopamine rush of your weeks, months or even years of effort bearing fruit towards not the money that you’re creating could've brought you, but that which you created.
                NTA but what if the years of effort don’t make you a good artist or don’t lead to “bearing fruit” that’s good? You are left with sadness and wasted time

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you fail you just get up and either try again or try something else like a normal human being. People nowadays (and especially the younger generations) are too afraid of failure to try anything. One can't learn without failure. Even if you're a drooling moron that can't do anything right you can go to a gym.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://news.uchicago.edu/story/why-you-may-learn-less-failure-success
                Failure is for losers

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, failure and giving up is for losers. Failure and persevere is how it goes. Failure is part of part of life and reality.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                From the original study's abstractact (thanks for not linking it homosexual):
                "Thus, when ego concerns are muted, people tune in and learn from failure" (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0956797619881133)
                If you just stop being a b***h it works.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                The process is rewarding by itself. The high you get from acquiring artistic skills is bigger than what you get from programming, as you're learning. You don't really feel anything from making a calculator or a text editor except for a sense of progress, but learning some basic perspective or color theory means you can make things that felt like a mysterious dark art before.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you're not a code monkey you have to learn group theory, cryptography, algorithms specifically designed for graphics programming and their principles, the many computer architectures and protocols that are there, computer networks, etc. to be able to do your job. You learn more from programming than from arts, it's just not a motor skill.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        True, art is very fun to do by oneself, but what if the project is going to take too much time out of my very busy schedule? Then I need to offload the work that I want done to an artist that will accept compensation for the hours I'm asking them to pour over Fluttershy's beautiful eyes, hooves, mane, wings, etc.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Asking AI to do art for you is no different than comissioning an artist.
        This is true, and when the "artist" fricks up I can just keep telling "him" to try again rather for virtually nothing or try and explain it to "him" some other way rather than complain to some person and/or pay more to maybe get the result I'm after.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You don't need to be paid to do art.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didnt he hate doing that particular fresco? Iirc he *had* to do it, but actually just wanted to chill doing his own shit

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's actually not uncommon, read up on the 1812 Overture for example. Money motivates great artists to do great things, and average artists to do average things.

          Congrats to the girl, keep promoting yourself.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need to be paid to code. Some might even say code is at its best when not paid for by someone and created spontaneously, without someone ordering "one app please" from some code monkey.

      Coders aren't entitled to be paid a living for their work.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s literally true, look at GitHub

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          And yet we still have jobs for coding.

          -posted from my GitHub downloaded captcha solving app I never donated to

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's me you're replying to and yeah, you are absolutely correct. I know a dude who does demoscene C++ as a hobby, and drives a city bus for a living because he wants to keep programming fun instead of a grind for money.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I would like to point out, that demoscene is a form of art.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          bisqwit?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not quite, but another finn though.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody is replacing me though.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          NeetAI when?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        bruh, programmers are the people working the hardest for a day when humans won't need to do programming anymore. You're preaching to the wrong congregation.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You think that's some sort of gotcha, but it is unironically correct. The best software out there is FOSS

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Code is a instrument to produce immediate useful stuff for society
        Non commissioned art (and every entertaining items) is not so it's there for as long as we artificially maintain the market
        Even thinking of comparing them makes you an absolute artist

        t. nocoder

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know you are trying to make bot mad because someone said the same thing about art, but the problem is, you're both correct.

        There should be no AI protectionism. If you can still get paid to do things in the age of AI, great. But you aren't owed this and a lot of people are going to choose to use AI because it is simpler, faster and usually higher quality.

        Nobody is entitled to make a living doing any specific thing. It all really depends on if people are willing to pay you for your work.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah just look at the state of Loonix. OS of the year any day now!!

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe harder artgay. In 3 years you'll be studying Python through tear-filled eyes

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Talking 'bout personal experience uh

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        ...you are aware we don't get paid to produce the python scripts that helps you generate AI content and it's a literal hobby for us and not job, right?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes i do it for free, I code for free, I "contribute" to others proyects (working for 0 dollars), I only use programs that are done for people tha also do it for free and Im habby

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, but I wrote a kinda long shell script (~200 lines) for fun (only 1 loop though) and a few years later someone paid me ~13K after tax for the rights to it (it was gpl before) because it was useful in his niche business and most of them are moronic, but also can't afford to hire programmers.
        I'm sure most code that isn't written in-house is this way. There is a difference between commissioning and having a team of employees who can look at the long term goals of the business or take on long term research projects.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Much of the best and now most famous art was made by commission or made to be sold for money. The mona lisa was commissioned by a rich merchant.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is true, but lets consider what the subject is too, an artist could be just as likely to be paid to produce ugly postmodernist desconstructivist trash as they are to produce some sort of beautiful impressionist masterpiece of the Equestrian countryside with the subject of the painting being a cute mare with love and hardship, and relief with coming of the viewer's presence expressed implicitly in her eyes.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody is stopping buyers from commissioning real artists, so what is the whine about exactly?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Me reporting them stops them from drawing

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >spend a potentially large sum of money commissioning an artist and wait days/weeks to get a piece of art you may not even like
          >type some words and press a button
          Almost everyone will choose the latter if it is even remotely comparable in output, especially companies.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So AI art is art after all? Does it fulfill the role of art? A rose by any other name?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Mona Lisa is not an example of 'best' art, it is just an example of 'famous' art. It was never close to one of Leonardo's best pieces and was never remarkable in general, it's just famous.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mona Lisa became famous after they tried to steal it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong.
        The best and most famous art was done by people who lived like monks and dedicated their whole live to it. And most of the time actually did it for their religious believe.

        You are only thinking about the Mona Lisa because you are artificially limiting yourself to art that is property that can be sold and traded with.
        All the shit the Catholic church owns or ancient roman and greek statues are not up for sale, so we can't put a price tag on them.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Technically not wrong, but we live under capitalism, so nobody really has the freedom to live that pleasant, draw-when-you're-inspired life.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody is entitled to any wage. people are willing to trade only because it's worth it to them -- And it in fact can be worth it to both parties (Thomas Sowell's description is the case of a man who would rather have a newspaper than 50c and a newspaper company which would rather have 50c than a newspaper).

      As long as there are people who value human-made art enough that they'd be willing to pay an amount of money that artists would rather have than the time & effort & result in the act of creating the art, there will be a market for human artists.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best art often used to come from tortured artists living in poverty all their lives. Fine art commissioned by kings or the church was rare and only for a select few artists.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >makes comic against AI art
    >has the shittiest artsyle imaginable
    Like clockwork, etc

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      LOL

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      LOL

      since current "ai" is just glorified google search and glorified copy-paste, it's still the same issue.
      if their art is shit "your" art from "ai" is shitty.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can exclude garbage from the dataset

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why even have a second character in the comic if they're not going to say anything?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      So this prostitute can self insert

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine drawing something this ugly and suspecting someone would choose to put it in a training set for their AI.

        Unless you can show the AI negative examples of what something shouldn't look like, this artist is totally immune from being used to train AI.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's Pizzacake all of her comics are moronic self inserts complaining about shit without a shred of creativity or real humor.

        So in essence, perfect basedboy bait.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Illustrated tweets

          https://i.imgur.com/TjbjBJk.png

          jesus christ

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      troony self-insert

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok coomer.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          ok trooner

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      "me good, them bad."
      it's pretty much the same formula "satirists" have been using for decades.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's hilarious for a webcomic to take the "artists must be paid for their work" side
    You release your poorly drawn, copy-pasted "art" for free on the Internet for everyone to see. If you believed your art has value in itself you'd sell access to it, not post it for free and try to make money on the sly off ads, merch and donations.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    seething aijeets ITT
    artists keep winning.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      With the recent suicide attempt numbers and the doomposting? They won long time ago in this category

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing will stop attention-seeking digital artists from posting their shit online, they will stop drawing if they can't do that and switch to something else like camwhoring. You can see it in their style, the material they produce, it's all very clearly informed by the feedback they get, and by the desire to get good at the things that get them good feedback. If they deviate you can instantly see how limited they are.

    Oh and you can train AI on AI output, so the premise is incorrect.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these homosexuals keep harping on about AI being some sort of conspiracy to wipe out artists out of existence, when in reality it's just another tool and most AI people have no malice against them.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Many of these artists likely use things like content aware fill, which is a similar concept anyway.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        look, anon. i see where you're coming from, but I guarantee the artists butthurt about this do not use content-aware fill. they use shit like CSP and PaintToolSAI. they don't know how to fully use their digital art tools.
        >Layers are meaningless to them. color on one layer. lineart on another. whats a layer blend mode?
        >Wand select tool + flood fill? What are you talking about, i just paint it in manually.
        >filters? Why would I want to sharpen my image?
        >custom brushes? Stamps? no thanks I just use the ones i downloaded from deviantART
        >Cant even do text editing in their shit software
        >knows zero hotkeys or shortcuts
        >unable to work on files larger than 3000x3000 because pc starts to lag. >can't undo more than 50 times because scratch discs are full. does not know how to allocate more
        >layer masking? layer clipping? why could i need that?
        >destructive cropping
        >resizes image without making it a smart object, has no concept of resolution
        >puppet warp? warp? are you talking about a muppet and star trek crossover?

        Amazing shit like the content aware fill and use of ai gens to fill in their backgrounds, extend their drawings to fit different dimensions etc. is just completely beyond them.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's scary to a lot of shartists because they have to evaluate what art really is and reconcile their conception of it, something they've never done. Remember, a lot of these shartists crying about AI are only crying because they see people taking their "style" and making something they won't be compensated for with it. For years, shartists were talking about what makes art, and it turns out the only thing these artists care about is the most superficial aspects of it, not the pseudo intellectual drivel that inspires most "modern art".

      A writer can have someone impersonate them with their writing style, but still maintain identity through the uniqueness of their expression, most commonly reflected from life experiences. An artist also can, but unfortunately most of the shartists crying weren't making thoughtful and reflective artwork. They were drawing furry porn and webcomics.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        the thing with the pseudo-intellectual drivel coming out of art schools that inspires "modern art" is that it's relativistic posturing. it's superficial guidance on 'how you're supposed to act correctly" that can never be applied beyond the novice level because those concepts are so superficial that treating them as a rule compromises your ability to create new ideas and creative concepts. it's less so much poisoning the well, it's more like malnourishing your peasants.

        shartists are not engaging in artistry to create new ideas and creative concepts, they're just sycophants that worship at the feet of an artificial god. people in art school, not of their own ignorance, are legitimately taught that aesthetics and art and interchangible concepts. it just means they will get assblasted when someone tells them a sketchbook drawing isn't art because they were purposefully misled for an ulterior motive

        what im saying is that you should read Mein Kampf for the section on Viennese art schools

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no need for new art to be fed to the machine. with all the data present you can generate an infinite number of variations that can again be used to train better models. and shitty webcomic bs like OP was obsolete even before AI shat on it

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    More like
    >Fortfeit your art and surrender. We will add your technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

    You can either deny everyone art, or be consumed by AI while posting

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >she slowly started posting nudes of herself over the months
    Delicious

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Am I petty, but I swear, with all these shitty as frick comics I see, a part of me wants to draw just to show how it's done. Like this one, instead of just "I am silly", play that scenario out
    >panel 1: human artists drawing
    >panel 2: they get fired, and a bot is dragged in
    >panel 3: bot makes a bunch of derivatives
    >panel 4: bot's boss (or the bot itself) calls the artists, asking them for source material
    Bugs me how web comics just rely on basic dialog/facial expressions to get a shitty point/joke across. I read eulogy that had more imagery than the webcomics you see posted

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s a moronic idea anon, as the chance of an actual derivative of what the previous artists drew is as high as chance of you getting laid

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      that would be a mildly amusing comic, yes.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >look at art
    >take inspiration from it
    >make art
    >ai looks at my art
    >ai takes inspiration from my art
    this (clap emoji) NEEDS (clap emoji) to (clap emoji) STOP
    (clap emoji)
    NOW

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    if AI art is so trash and human artists are so much better (doubtful based on this shitty comic), why are they getting so upset over it?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      People tend to get upset when undesirables move into their neighborhood and litter trash all over the place. It’s not so much the pictures themselves, but the people behind them who have zero awareness to what makes art “work” and posts shit that has so many blatant issues, and not even soulful little imperfections, but lacking consistency in aesthetic direction/mood. It looks like cheap walmart crap, which would be fine if people making it knew that’s what it was, but having an eye for such things requires years of experience, so they don’t and have the audacity to call themselves real artists. Of all the AI slop, I’ve seen only 2 that I’d actually call good pictures and, even then, part of what makes art “art” is the process behind it, and the experience/methods behind that(leading to things like unique styles which are a glimpse into the subconscious of the artists, hence why art is communication even at its base level.) Prompting isn’t an artform, and I don’t think most artists would care so much about AI if people using it and posting it everywhere stopped considering themselves artists.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >part of what makes art “art” is the process behind it
        Only "artists" really care about that

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're the first pass user I've ever seen, I find that incredible.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poor woman artist has to rely on selling nudes to survive now. 🙁
    https://kemono.party/patreon/user/59577203

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think she “needs to”
      From her timeline you can see how she slowly got coerced into it from the positive attention she was getting

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think she “needs to”
      From her timeline you can see how she slowly got coerced into it from the positive attention she was getting

      No offense but how do women like that get attention on the internet? Simps should be genocided.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        some people never leave their rooms so average coochie seems god-tier to them.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      looks israeli

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Canada, so probably yes!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Emergence IRL

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least for right now, but even then, when the AI artist does get better and better, I don't know, I'd just rather have something that's meant to be expressive and emotional still be produced by someone that can feel those expressions and emotions, it makes the art feel more valuable to me. I mean, I like Vocaloid music, but part of the reason I love the songs so much is that despite the robotic tones, which I mean I do like, but the stories the feelings the song content is what I really connect with and come back to.

      women really can't miss an opportunity to shamelessly prostitute themselves out, can they?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >https://kemono.party/patreon/user/59577203
      This b***h has some UGLY breasts

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >coping.jpg

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a feeling huge datasets of real art released just before the AI "revolution" (i.e. when SD came out) will be worth a lot more as time progresses.

    Remember how the moronic Br*tish fed ground-up cattle remains back to cows and brought about the mad cow disease? That's exactly what's going to happen with AI art. As datasets become more and more contaminated, AI art will be fed back into new AI models, and the AI inbreeding will yield much worse results.
    We will have so much AI garbage that it will be impossible to filter them out. You won't be able to trust a dataset, and you can't really collect your own data because it will be contaminated.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s literally what’s happening to humans too though
      Twitter artists learn from other Twitter artists, creating worse and worse atrocities, or another case is the corporate artstyle and how each generation of it is even more disgusting than the one before
      Contamination of “dataset” doesn’t only happen to machines, absolutely happens to humans too

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a simple with real artists, or at least it's not really a problem.
        For example, western art generally looks like garbage, and it's worth going out of your way so you don't come across it. Garbage western artists beget garbage western artists. However, I've seen some talented western artists who chose to use or incorporate eastern art styles and made pretty nice stuff. So talented humans are capable of improving and choosing a good example to follow. The cross-contamination situation is very real though and I'm glad Japanese artists are leaving Twitter.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can use LLMs to determine from context if a posted image is generated, and it's not like images are on a GPT4 text-generation level yet, they should be easily automatically distinguishable. If they're not detected then they probably have good enough "genes" to inbred.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice slippery slope fallacy with no information except source: your fat ass. You know nothing about this subject, frick off and have a nice day moron.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Enjoy looking at sterile smooth diarrhea art digested and shit out by 5 models before it reaches you.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah. it's better than most artists right now, but it'll start going down hill any day now.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            2 weeks more and artists will finally defeat it!

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        slippery slope is not a fallacy

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy looking at sterile smooth diarrhea art digested and shit out by 5 models before it reaches you.

      I don't know, every problem these AI happen to have is corrected at an alarming fast rate, see hands and how it got quickly fixed with inpainting in like, what was it, one month? Surely what you're talking about and how it will be the AI's demise, will actually be fixed in, again, like a month.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know if it will lead to the AI's demise, I highly doubt that, but I'm highly skeptical about training with generated data. Of course, the best models will have better datasets, but I speculate the amount of shit that is about to flood the world will make it hard to collect your own data. As an anon pointed out, this is much worse for text, but can't imagine it being beneficial for images either.
        AI will keep getting better, and we will be seeing AI art everywhere. It can't be helped.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      There will be multiple actual humans sifting through those datasets tagging any/all possible AI work. Cleaning datasets will be an actual job, and the clean datasets themselves will be very valuable. The biggest issue will be artistic stagnation of the datasets when all major artists use AI in their process.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is an actual concern I've seen discussed. anons responding to you are moronic. there will never be another "purely human" internet from this point moving forward. Not unlike how non-contaminated earth is nearly impossible to source after the nuclear age.

      LLM's are supposed to reflect human behavior. It might not be a problem now, but it will be in a few generations. Negative feedback loop.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >LLM's are supposed to reflect human behavior. It might not be a problem now, but it will be in a few generations. Negative feedback loop.
        This. There's a reason why autists like Elon or the leddig devs are closing down access to valuable training data right now.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Lol nice

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      5557
      idgi

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stop replacing me
    >you literally can't replace me (emotions, passion etc)
    What IS the problem here? There is no problem apparently.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd be way more sympathetic to them (and I guess am to anyone that does) if they stuck with the first. Technology won't stop either way, but this
      >YOU'LL NEVER BE ME
      >YOU'RE DESTROYING MY LIFE
      >I'M NOT SCARED
      >FRICK YOU
      shit, makes them so fricking hard to feel for.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once it's sufficiently good can't it train against itself?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not without human interaction

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does this need to be a comic.
    There's no necessary visual information or comedy.
    This c**t should stop drawing and go play minecraft (or similar).

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    moronic comic

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn't understand ard
      >NOOO it's the art that's moronic!!
      no wonder you think AI creates new art

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        every human artist copies others
        no way around

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    her comics were so unfunny I went out of way and created an account just so I could block her

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Should have reported her first for good measure

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        will do certainly

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    people use ai art because it's free and they wouldn't have paid for an artist anyway, same concept of piracy

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Piracy is not only free but also usually better than the original you could buy (you actually own the product with no DRM or any kind of restrictions).
      AI art is almost always worse than what a good artist would make but it's often good enough for the purpose, especially for free.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        bro have you seen the style of average artist and the mistakes they make
        even shittr with worst model performs better than that

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's a reason why I said "good artist." But yes, this is the context we need to consider. Shitty and average artists usually make very bad art, and AI beats them with literally zero effort (unless they have SOVL), that's why they are seething.
          High-profile artists are less threatened by AI.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I use AI art for stuff I'm too lazy to draw myself, and it's great. I still draw the stuff I find fun to draw, but all the endless npc portraits for my game can easily be automated

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        too bad steam removes your game if it has ai art in it, itch.io should be fine tho I think

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fine

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even in their fantasies they can't help but make themselves look like troons.

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it that 100% of the artists I see seething about AI have garbage style that would likely get excluded from any curated dataset?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah they get used for training embeddings like easynegative lmao
      Even the trash is good for composting

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    its only unskilled artists being affected, borders dont exist anyway

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      also what are you a bigot? silicon deserves rights too

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >its only unskilled artists being affected,
      Yeah I have a friend who does art coms (and is good) and he has never once complained about AI.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen some artists I like (including ones, commonly used for style prompts) complain.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        the joke is this is how they brushed off people complaining about illegal immigration

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh. yeah. I'm european, so our complaint were never "they took our jobs", rather that they use up our resources as well as steal/kill/rape like crazy.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kek, true.
            Europeans would be fricking dancing in the streets if any of the migrants actually worked jobs.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              I would be doing the worm if a Black person actually invented something that improved my everyday quality of life

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >human is influenced by another human
    >...
    >computer is influenced by human
    >has incel meltdown

    I don't get this.

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You posted their art on a different board

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Artists: "we hate the 1%! keeping all the money they earned from the masses1!!!"
    Also Artists: "we, the 1% of talented artists should be the only ones show can make art!"

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      good morning sirs, pajeeta sexo

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy based!
      Fricking kek, saved!
      Truly, humor worth of BOT

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why does she lie to the doctor?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because she is a women.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/EbEllnN.png

      Reddit bros...

      where are the porn edits?
      i thought we have AI now

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reddit bros...

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      reddit: i hate you troon [USER BANNED FOR THIS POST]
      reddit: [edited] i like your suff!

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

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    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      my favorite people on earth are those who are triggered by reddit

      like how weak do you have to be that gay robot is the "this is me being hurrassed"

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  34. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Won't AIs just start referencing themselves when making art? Getting weirder and weirder as the human influence is diluted. I remember a story a few years ago when two AIs gradually evolved their own short-hand language from English for making deals.

  35. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone can see her butthole on the internet => opinion discarded.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      where

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://kemono.party/patreon/user/59577203

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          women whoring themselves out is empowering, haven't you heard chud

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >see older posts
          >just pictures of herself
          >getting riskier and riskier as time goes on
          >full-on e-thot by now
          this is some fetish material
          I feel kinda sad in a way, approaching the wall truly does a number on the mind of most modern women

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wtf this b***h got two children

          Lmao it's so over for those kids

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Somehow whoring out her comic self-insert feels worse than whoring out her actual self.

  36. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI art is the futu-
    Imagine thinking making webcomics is art

  37. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't even need AI to rip-off that person's "art"; the character is like 20 strokes, the coloring is simple gradients and text boxes (and the text within) are fricking basic as hell. I bet anyone here could set up a PS workflow and replicate that style perfectly in less than 10min. It would beat wasting the time training.

  38. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ai relies on existing art for training
    >stealing
    >human artists rely on existing art for training
    >not stealing

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean you know the automated response is that machines =/= humans

  39. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    why would you steal from the most unfunny comic series ever lmao

  40. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    artists are dead already and they don't even know it.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen this idea made before. about regular school content. also.

      thanks for the mice I'll sell them

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        i'm surprised people haven't used this tech to generate childrens books by the truck load.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          they have and have been mocked and criticized to oblivion

          also no copyright.

  41. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Language's next and since language is everything for us, that will be the end of the human-led part of history. It was short, ugly and violent. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      same. Literally cannot wait.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      same. Literally cannot wait.

      Nothing will be what it seems like.

  42. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Be human artist
    >Constantly consooming other people's art 24/7
    >Learn from these other art pieces without the consent of the original creator
    >Apply those influences in your own work to create something new
    >AI starts to do the exact same thing
    >NOOOOOOOOOOOO T- T- THATS STEALING!!1!!!!!
    >mfw cognitive dissonance

  43. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI art is the futu
    what is futu? did you mean futa?

  44. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    cringe

  45. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    commission human art then.

  46. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it that all the people who make these shorty comics can’t draw? Lmao.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too busy getting camgirl bux and basking in reddit updoots.

  47. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI needs a shitty art filter.

  48. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Photoshop killed art long before AI did.

    Works as good as the great masters could already be produced in days with only 3 years experience in good tooling. So master level workmanship already went from 10 years to 10 days. Now it's reduced to 10 minutes.

    Good art should demonstrate one of two things. It should demonstrate a mastery of a talent, like hand carving something out of marble. Or it should reveal a truth that society refuses to accept.

    Social Justice morons are incapable of exposing truth since their entire persona is toeing false ideological lines. They are lazy morons so they can't get good at anything. So they are incapable of taking any of the two paths towards great art.

  49. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a feeling no AI is "stealing" pizzacakecomics "art"

  50. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  51. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the more things change, the more things stay the same.
    The same crowd which hated unabomber/luddites and said mine workers to get tech jobs ARE now making the same arguments luddites did regarding industrial revolution.
    funny how that works out.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      trannies are going to fricking ruin ted k. aesthetics

  52. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    okay now edit it to be about gay people expecting straight people to keep breeding

  53. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe AI would steal real art from real artists like me. Capitalism is truly evil.

  54. 6 months ago
    sneedypie

    >implying AI can't steal art from its own creations

  55. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >My reaciton to ai deniers when you no longer have to pay for photos or clipart.

  56. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    you don't even need new art to feed the AI. just make an evolution system where the AI creates art with some changes and then keep saying yay or nay to guide the AI to the right direction.

    also as sidenote, humanity has already created so much art that you literally cannot go through it all even if you dedicate your life to just browsing through it. therefore there's not reason to create more and we should just abolish copyright. people would still create (arguably better) art just for fun.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just make an evolution system where the AI creates art with some changes and then keep saying yay or nay to guide the AI to the right direction.
      It already happened, the way people trained and merged Stable Diffusion models was the "yay", and to increase the speed of the process and keep storage space viable (as people kept downloading 5GB models their space began to run out) the "nay" was what was deemed unimportant when keeping checkpoints at their minimum size.
      The sad state of affairs is that about 5 months ago models plateaued, becoming 97% similar to each other, creating "same faces" (what was "yayed" to be the most pleasing faces) which you'll get no matter what model you use, and since then nobody has broken any new ground and models stagnated.
      Specially because SDXL arrived but it turns out it's not as good as the SD models that plateaued earlier.
      Hands are still terrible and need impainting, people still get body horror and have to resort to generate many pictures and throw away the bad ones, and we still don't have character permanence (a character redrawn may now be wearing a tie instead of the buttons of the previous pic.)
      It's as if a new alternative to text to image has to appear to replace all this, and we just use this to learn from previous mistakes. But imagine if you describe an image with some action and the emotions of the characters and it's actually drawn that way, forget about banning AI pictures because nobody will be able to tell them apart.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        All the problems you point out are real but you can't do much about the gacha aspect of it when the whole field is a black box gacha. I mean, can we expect determinism from what is basically brute-force search with shortcuts?
        Frick ML

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        SDXL is a base model moron, like SD1.4 and so on, so compare the base mode to base model, not to the fine tunes and merges

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Specially because SDXL arrived but it turns out it's not as good as the SD models that plateaued earlier.
        Hands are still terrible and need impainting, people still get body horror and have to resort to generate many pictures and throw away the bad ones, and we still don't have character permanence (a character redrawn may now be wearing a tie instead of the buttons of the previous pic.)
        It's as if a new alternative to text to image has to appear to replace all this, and we just use this to learn from previous mistakes. But imagine if you describe an image with some action and the emotions of the characters and it's actually drawn that way, forget about banning AI pictures because nobody will be able to tell them apart.

        I don't get this take on SDXL. I'm getting massively improved results vs using SD a couple months ago with less need to have large batch sizes and needing less work to refine final image.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          > we still don't have character permanence
          /lmg/ sort of figured that one out. It's a software issue and not a flaw with the models we use.

          Chat coomers have an advantage, in that text logs are easy to save and edit in order to achoeve a sort of recursive training method in order to maintain permanence with their waifus.

          For images, we would need a collector in our software, that continuously re-trains itself on it's own generated content to produce it's own LoRAs in order to achieve the same results.

  57. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ah yes, the ol' "strawman opponent angrily spewing lines while the person who made the picture is silent and calm"
    the most creative and intelligent of arguments

    anyone got the "i am silly" picture?

  58. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    A truly philosophically indefensible argument. What do human artists do besides observe the world and abstract, interpret, regurgitate, etc. to produce a work of art? AI is intelligence, limited by its inability to strengthen its sensory inputs, but it is performing the same process. Unless these lefty atheist artists want to claim there is something only a human can do due to some innate capability or connection to some higher force that introduces otherworldly objects into their consciousness?

  59. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >poor female being oppressed
    >malicious male robot being the oppressor
    Switch genders and see the seethe.

  60. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    -re

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      dicky is the future -/-> ai art is the future

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        ai art is the future -> dicky is the future

  61. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how AI can't make edited porn of this comic if drawing is so easy for them

  62. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >seething for a year straight
    happy anniversary SD bros

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