AI Art Ethics and Artist Seethe Thread

Reminder that if copyright laws were enacted to ban AI art, it would also ban parodies and fan art by extension. Artists are fucking themselves over by trying to boycott AI.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/AI_art_seethe

    lmao based

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What are they smoking thinking this is AI generated?
      It's not like AI is some blackbox where you put an art and it generates you a derivative with different perspective, features, etc. AI can change some features and morph some things, but it won't just redraw whole image from a different angle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is the artist saying their work was stolen or not?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As you can see.
          And everyone in the comments goes crazy trying to prove it was AI generated.
          It's like these people never used an AI before but try to larp as some experts. This is a scene from the show, it's clearly just a regular redraw. Plagiarism maybe if you for some reason do not consider original artwork to be plagiarism of the same scene in the show, but there is no way this was done by an AI.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            AI witch hunts are going to be so much fun.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >NOOOO NOT MY SUPER GENERIC IDEA

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That scene is also taken from the show. There is literally nothing original about it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >AI can change some features and morph some things, but it won't just redraw whole image from a different angle.
        It actually can and will if you make it. It maps from a latent feature space to an image space. You can see many very similar high level features in the image but drawn from a different perspective. Retards like you keep forgetting that these are generative models, they will produce a complete image from nothing but noise. They don't need a pre-existing image to "morph" even though you can use one in place of noise.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Retards like you keep forgetting that these are generative models, they will produce a complete image from nothing but noise. They don't need a pre-existing image to "morph" even though you can use one in place of noise.
          Except that would require you to train an embedding or similar complex technique that barely anyone knows about and even less do it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What are you talking about, retard? The entire process of training the models and their primary use case is using noise as input in conjunction with text prompts. Using images in place of noise for morphing your pepes into paintings is just a secondary use for the system.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >What are you talking about, retard? The entire process of training the models and their primary use case is using noise as input in conjunction with text prompts.
              There are different kinds of trainings that you can do, I was talking about training an embedding, not model, but whatever.

              >Using images in place of noise for morphing your pepes into paintings is just a secondary use for the system.
              So, whats your point? Even the guy who comissioned that artwork said he sent the artwork on the left to the artist as reference. There is no way AI generated it, whenever it was img2img or miraculously randomly generated from noise.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Actually, now that I think about it, there seems to be a huge deal of confusion about how these diffusers actually work. People think they denoise the image directly - applying local modifications to the actual picture - when in reality that's not the case at all. Stable diffusion is a LATENT SPACE diffuser. It denoises the latent space representations of the images, not the images themselves.

          In layman's terms, it operates on the conceptual contents of the image, not the visual image itself. So things like global perspective shifts are fairly simple for the model to do.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >In layman's terms
            Cringe
            >LATENT SPACE diffuser. It denoises the latent space representations of the images, not the images themselves.
            Buzzwords.

            The fact is that it literally saves pictures and then copy pasts parts of them.
            >b-b-b- my buzzwords
            No idiot we all can see the results.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Retard

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It denoises the latent space representations of the images, not the images themselves.
            Can you explain how strength parameter works in img2img? It allows you to determine how close will the output resemble input, with 0% being pixel by pixel identical and 100% being completely unrelated.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I want to begin to understand this, what's a good resource for a professional Software Dev with a Math intensive related degree?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's with all the super cringy commentary on every post? Reeks of trying way too hard. Just let the seethe speak for itself, autist.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gimmick accounts made by larping landlords are some of the most cringiest accounts on twitter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck you LoveForLandlords and LoveForAnimesexuals are hilarious and Plebbit still falls for it after literal years

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not hilarious
          It's fucking sad that reddit retards still buys at this shit

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hahaha who's the comic artist who's being parodied in this? I've seen lots of his comics on BOT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kelly

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanx anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My head canon is that this kid is the gay nazi furry child of this old guy

      https://i.imgur.com/gLXf6Nk.jpg

      Thanx anon

      Like father like child.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're fucking retarded, OP, and 100% an ashkenazi garden gnome. 100% no fucking doubt about you ratling.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ok garden gnome

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's hard to take art seriously when drops of paint and soups cans are seen as art.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This. Apparently going to Walmart and buying two clocks is enough to qualify as a fucking world renowned artpiece. The definition of art was diluted so much it's basically meaningless nowadays.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/w0Wo9mr.jpg

          This. Apparently going to Walmart and buying two clocks is enough to qualify as a fucking world renowned artpiece. The definition of art was diluted so much it's basically meaningless nowadays.

          >The definition of art was diluted so much it's basically meaningless nowadays.
          Art critics of the early 20th century would've laughed at that AI art and called it infantile or pedestrian. "High Art" has never been anything more than a way for rich snobs to out-snob each other. The fact that you idiots think it ever had anything to do with quality or art for art's sake just exposes how naive and uneducated you are.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there's less shit clogged up my ass than there is in your post

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Art critics of the early 20th century

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That just shows any piece of shit can be art, regardless who made it, if some people approve of it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >left
        "made" by a coomer NEET
        >right"
        made by globohomo

        Both are soulless.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ok garden gnome
        >doesn't use the word garden gnome
        yeah, again, up yours, you disgusting ashkenazi garden gnome rat.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Responding to a 6 hour old post

          moron they've likely moved on and aren't reading this thread anymore, unlike you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you replied 😉

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not me, sorry. Guess your mental breakdown is giving you delusions 🙂

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just use BOT X and view your replies at any time.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're a fool just playing right into the hands of corpos and other garden gnomes.

    AImorons can only use false equivalences and put down artists to elevate themselves, they are incapable of standing on their own. They needed artists to come up with their artworks so they could train their models, once they had what they wanted they were more than happy to attack artists.

    Look at this shrewd pajeet, he's been an edge fund analyst for 16 years and received over 100 million in VC capital to start his meme startup. Yet here he is, acting like artists are some protect class and artists are keeping poor people from creating art.

    The reality is much different: there are millions of resources on how to become an artist, do a simple search on YT or Google. Artists are eager to share their knowledge and they never put anyone down for wanting to do art. The "cripples" on plebbit which I'm sure the AImoron will post in a second are all false flagging shills, the art world has always been welcoming and encouraging to disabled people and in fact has long been the sole way for disabled people to express themselves, think of all those with no limbs still drawing with their feet or mouths. No one has ever said their art was less than those of other artists.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, lmao even.

      10 cents has been deposited to your account from Disney's copyrights lobbying funds.

      • 1 month ago
        sage

        >no u
        >I'll just accuse him of the same thing he's accusing me
        You are very smart. Your epic chad images totally convinced me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks.

          I hope the AI blews up any copyrights. Intellectual property is unnecessary nuisance. All code, art, ideas, techniques should be free for anyone to use for any purpose they want. This is the true freedom.
          If you don't want others to use your stuff then just don't give it to them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Actual based take. Imagine being so insecure that you spawn in this world, arrange atoms in a certain way (paint on canvas, ones and zeros, a patent etc.) and claim that you own this pattern.
            Intellectual property was a mistake.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The idea of Intellectual "property" was a disaster. Ironically it doesn't really exist for the end consumer, no one can stop you from pirating games/movies/books whatever.
              Content creators suffer the most from IP laws. Disney and other corporations gain the most.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's fine so long as property can only belong to natural humans instead of nonhumans such as corporations and soon enough AI models. Why should abstract entities have rights?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                One goes with another. If you hold rights to intellectual property, how are you going to license it to a company? You sign separate license to every single person who will be dealing with your IP there?
                It's either all or nothing.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Intellectual property is even more retarded. "Uhh I invent a spaceship that uses nuclear propulsion", without any means to make it. 50 years layer someone actually builds it and you come at them with a lawsuit because you "thought of it first". Utterly retarded.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm a retard
        I see.
        The point dumb shit that AI can not do anything. AI literally learns to copy past from whatever art it is given. This means if artists stop creating new art AI literally will be stuck with the same shit forever.

        This is the future no talent AI fanboys want.

        https://i.imgur.com/psZXUjt.png

        Most artists, usually the ones on Twitter, are whiny, toxic little shitheaps who deserve to be impoverished, but they might have a case with AI "stealing" their art.

        Even though they're not literally doing so, as in their art is not located anywhere in the trained model, you can approximate training images using their associated descriptions as prompts. Maybe some text generalization can come into play so people can't do this anymore.

        Basically this. There was this chink AI website that made everything in this Neo-victorian future anime style and people started throwing pictures of humans who did not fit and it literally forced everything into this style. Even the furniture. It literally copy pasts, you can see the same face used there if you use it long enough.

        >toxic little shitheap
        YES they are.

        >Even though they're not literally doing so, as in their art is not located anywhere in the trained model,
        YES it is. If it is not in there why does is non stop come out like from it?
        Here is the fun fact the pictures are stored in there. The fact that you can not understand how a neural network works (no human really can) does not mean that in these connections there is not literally this pictured stored, it being coded in a round about way that you can not understand does not mean it is not there.

        What all this AI thing does is basically get trained to 100% identify one picture as
        >Milf
        >Furry
        >Futa
        based on the tags it stole also.
        Then it is messed up by introducing noise into the picture and demanding it recreate this saved picture.

        This is repeated until the AI can basically recall the identical picture when given random noise and only the tags.
        Then the same is done for 100s of other pictures.
        The hope is that it can do art this way, the truth is that it learns to copy past from the database of pictures it stored.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > Copy/paste
          Literally not true, the rest of whatever you said is invalid

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The point dumb shit that AI can not do anything. AI literally learns to copy past from whatever art it is given. This means if artists stop creating new art AI literally will be stuck with the same shit forever.
          This applies to 99% of artists. Barely any of them will do any change. I would even expect that AI generating random outputs will have higher chance of generating something really new and unique than a random human artist.

          >This is the future no talent AI fanboys want.
          The only thing AI fanboys want is generating images they want. No different from paying a shitty commission artist 30$ to draw their waifu, except much cheaper. It has literally no influence on whatever.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This applies to 99% of artists.
            Cope. If art stopped 100 years ago this is all you get today. So no anime picture faces.
            > will have higher chance
            Cope useless no talent.

            Admit that you are anti-human and anti-skill because you are a useless no skill neet that can literally never learn to make art.

            >The only thing AI fanboys want
            It is named a booru and you can use that right?
            With AI art you literally only get booru pictures who are stolen from other artists and metadata for these pictures who is stolen from the booru users who tagged these pictures.

            >b-b-b- I want
            Learn to draw.
            >b-b-b-b
            You have no skills.

            >draw their waifu
            This is literally impossible. You know I have fiction that is unpublished a whole universe of fictional characters who are unique as fuck in their looks.

            Guess what happens when you type in
            >Darth Vader on a shark.
            into the AI.
            Now guess what happens if I type in
            >Be'rok'kull face close up with planet and moon behind.

            The AI has no fucken idea what a Be'rok'kull is.it knows what a planet and a moon are. You get random crap if you try this. The AI literally learned what a Darth Vader is from stealing 100s of pictures from the internet or whoever trained it stole these pictures and the tags people placed on them.

            The AI is not smart or anything it can only "learn" by stealing pictures humans made. Punishing humans will only result in AI being unable to learn anything new so you are stuck with the same Marvel/Star Wars shit forever. Do you want this future ?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Admit that you are anti-human and anti-skill because you are a useless no skill neet that can literally never learn to make art.
              >Learn to draw.
              >You have no skills.
              I do draw actually.

              >With AI art you literally only get booru pictures who are stolen from other artists and metadata for these pictures who is stolen from the booru users who tagged these pictures.
              Great isn't it? Instead of hiring someone to do it for me I can just order my computer instead.

              >This is literally impossible. You know I have fiction that is unpublished a whole universe of fictional characters who are unique as fuck in their looks.
              The AI generates my waifu quite well. I also know people who has trained embeddings for their less known characters. It's not like you are limited to what default models offer.

              >The AI is not smart or anything it can only "learn" by stealing pictures humans made.
              Just like most humans.

              >Punishing humans will only result in AI being unable to learn anything new so you are stuck with the same Marvel/Star Wars shit forever. Do you want this future ?
              There are people, myself included, that draw out of passions, not for attention. I seriously do not care what kind of AI is being used, it doesn't prevents me from drawing what I like.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I do draw actually.
                Post your art.

                >Instead of hiring someone to do it for me
                Like I have explained with the Be'rok'kul example you literally can not. This is literally impossible.
                If you disagree tell your computer to draw a Be'rok'kul and post the results. I wait.

                What you retard can not understand is the AI literally depends on being fed 100s of 100s of a picture of a given character. Pictures that HUMANS draw first.
                These stolen pictures (and they are always stolen even if they literally are in the public domain) are used to copy past a picture together in the AI.

                This is all the AI can literally do nothing if someone does not steal human created pictures and feeds it to the AI.

                >Just like most humans.
                No retard you are to retarded to understand the world. The difference is that a human is a human. End of story.

                The other bonus is that I can explain to a human how a Be'rok'kul looks like in words. You can not do that to an AI you need to feed it pre made pictures who are tagged with Be'rok'kul and it can never deviate from these pictures.

                >Just like most humans.
                Like debunked before a human is a human.
                This mean that if I lets say publish my Be'rok'kul literature or talk to a human artist to make me Be'rok'kul pictures these characters become part of pop culture who can then be referenced or influence other art.

                Try doing that with your computer try getting a
                >Be'rok'kul fights darth vader
                Picture from your AI. I wait. Do that. Literally do that now.

                >Just like most humans.
                Sorry no. The first art was based on things that exist in reality you know huamn body, humans animals. And humans are humans.
                What you want is that no human has any skill and like the no skill you only asks the AI to make him a Marvel x Star wars gay orgy picture #4546567456346467

                >, it doesn't prevents me from drawing what I like.
                Post your work.
                1/2

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Post your art.
                Post yours first.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > I will not show my art
                Show your art or you are debunked.

                >Noo you first
                WRONG gayOT ! I'm not the one parading
                >AI is so great !
                >Actually I draw and see no problem with AI art.

                Post your sonichu level doodles no skill.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sonichu level doodles no skill
                Gatekeeping much? Besides, sonichu yet has more views and fans that (You) (zero).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gatekeeping much?
                Post your art.
                Do you have a DA or art station ? Post link.
                I wait.

                Mr. "I draw and have no problem with AI art"
                >Gatekeeping much?
                Cry harder.

                AI lovers need to be exposed for being seething no skill neets.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Post your art.
                I really do not feel like posting my art in every AI discussion on BOT. It never constitutes as an argument anyway. It's just beginner anime art.

                >Like I have explained with the Be'rok'kul example you literally can not. This is literally impossible.
                >If you disagree tell your computer to draw a Be'rok'kul and post the results. I wait.
                That's what an embedding is. You can low cost fine tune existing models into creating very specific characters/things. I don't have time to make one for your dragon fantasies, but you can google the term and see that it is a thing.

                >What you retard can not understand is the AI literally depends on being fed 100s of 100s of a picture of a given character. Pictures that HUMANS draw first.
                Oh yeah, just like humans.

                >This is all the AI can literally do nothing if someone does not steal human created pictures and feeds it to the AI.
                Just like human that never seen a painting won't know how to make one.

                >You can not do that to an AI you need to feed it pre made pictures who are tagged with Be'rok'kul and it can never deviate from these pictures.
                Oh yeah that's true. What you are describing here is a task that requires general intelligence. This is an AI, not AGI, it just generates images using some text context, it can't actual reason about things like human do.

                >Sorry no. The first art was based on things that exist in reality you know huamn body, humans animals. And humans are humans.
                You can train an AI using real life photographs too. Humans invented various styles that originated from the limitations of tools at their disposal. AI being digital doesn't really have that limitation so it can just try to imitate reality as it is. We train AI on human artworks because we do want it to imitate that human art style, not just generate fake photographs.

                >Yes from all the pictures it has stolen.
                Yeah. Commission artists also ask for reference when you are asking them to draw specific character.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I really do not feel like posting my art in every AI
                I accept your unconditional surrender.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >beginner anime art
                holy shit, everytime.
                everytime someone defends AI art with "but I'm an artist too! checkmate!" it's a fucking tranime enthusiast following youtube tutorials hahaha

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pyw
                (you don't pussy, yer a furgay)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i'm not an artist tho and im not that anon you were talking to before

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                t. pussy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i literally have nothing to post tho. stop projecting my friend, dont argue ad hominem, its wasteful and tiring

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tranime
                Why dont you enlight us with your collection of handmade 2mx2m physical canvasses studies in the style of Sargent then?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I draw anime. It's the purest, most refined form of art.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >holy shit, everytime.
                Ask these AI fanboys to post their work/art. It works magic and is a meme at this point on /3/.

                >b-b-b-b I'm to tiered to post it now
                Is the peak of concession.
                Make a mega or a DA or whatever post all your crap there and then post the link here.
                They can not do this because they do not have any skill or art.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                aishits don't claim to be artists, you do
                the burden of proof is on you
                you are the experts, right?
                you spent years drawing, right?
                your not afraid so show your work to a bunch of non-drawing plebs, right?
                you can draw hands, right?
                yer not just a furshitter digigay who can only draw anal vore coms, right?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the vomit you posted is irrelevant. the original poster wrote "I draw tho" as an argument (in support of ai art). Turned out he is just drawing beginner tranime. There is no burden of proof.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/m7T327r.jpg

                Yes, I draw anime. It's the purest, most refined form of art.

                >Yes, I draw anime. It's the purest, most refined form of art.
                You debunked yourself.

                >1) I do not care that human art styles will be destroyed with AI art we can like train AI on pictures
                >2) PS : I hate 3D woman and pictures of woman, the non existent in reality anime style is what gets me excited.
                >3) The art style that is only possible because humans invented it
                You debunked yourself.

                Did you know ? AI lovers are all the most despicable human trash that ever existed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>1) I do not care that human art styles will be destroyed with AI art we can like train AI on pictures
                Yeah. There will always be people who draw out of passion.
                And these who drop out because they only did it for attention and thinking they are special will be replaced by machine that can produce unlimited amounts of art, and will only get better and better with time.

                >>2) PS : I hate 3D woman and pictures of woman, the non existent in reality anime style is what gets me excited.
                Yes. That's because her soul is 2D.
                Are you some seething female by any chance?

                >>3) The art style that is only possible because humans invented it
                And now AI excels at it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh yeah, just like humans.
                Did the bot break ?

                >100s of 100s of a picture of a given character.
                No retard or bot. Humans and human artists will need 1 or 2 pictures to see how a character looks from important sides and can draw this character even in their style.

                >Just like human that never seen a painting won't know how to make one.
                Did the bot break ?

                >Oh yeah that's true
                So you drop your previous points bot ?
                >This is an AI, not AGI,
                The point chat bot is that it literally copy pasts from human made pictures.

                >You can train an AI using real life photographs too
                Yes and this is a different subject. Since photography is not art.
                >styles that originated from the limitations of tools at their
                Yet you fap to the anime style,while hating 3D woman, very curious.

                I know I'm talking to a bot however.
                >not just generate fake photographs.
                Why?
                >Reee [incoherent weeb shit] I fap to the anime style only and hate photographs of real woman .... AI generate me this style
                This style is only possible because humans made it.

                > Commission artists
                Humans are humans. What can you not grasp about this ? The point is that to this point in time humans where the only ones who made art meaning pictures. You are celebrating literally removing this skill from humans and replacing it with a glorified booru picture spiting machine. Can yo unto see the problem with humanity being actively harmed ?

                Because you are a no skill neet who has no money and is a cancer on humanity.

                >Commission artists also ask for reference
                I bet retard/bot that if I challenge some artists to prove a point and only give them descriptions how a Be'rok'kul looks like they can understand it and draw it. After some refining on what they made we can get closer to what is in my head however I get the first one will be 75% if not 90% on the point.

                Try that with an AI.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                FYI:
                There is no point with these threads, artshits refuse to read of think, and all they want is ai gone.
                It's just artfgas seething and aishits laughing until an insult lands and both fling shit on each other.

                look at this retard
                who gives a shit, nothing this fuck says matters

                Ai is here to stay, it will only get more ubiquitous in time, and hopefully not suck as much, deal with it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like already said, this retard comes in every AI thread and gets rekted in EVERY discussion.
                But he keeps coming back to get more in the ass.
                I personally find it hilarious. And kinda sad, because he obviously has grown up with an absent father.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think he has actual psychosis I'm not kidding

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I had psychosis and that guy doesn't seem like he has psychosis
                t. go to psychologist

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's at least this really angry unhealthy obsession, like this dude has been seething behind his phone/PC for days, if not weeks.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                probably only way he can express himself in his unhealthy environment, and who wouldn't be angry if all you do is sleep/eat/drive-to-from/school/no-friends/angry&dismissive-parents

                I was him too so I understand, just let him tire himself out and then he will find a more productive and healthy way to make himself happy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh sweetie, look at little freud junior! keep on slaying!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's kinda sad he is so lonely.
                But in the other hand, who would like to be friend with a seething retard?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                jesus seriously, stop it with the r*ddit tier psychoanalysis, it's incredibly cringe
                >some anon posts some shit you disagree with
                >haha what a schizo incel!! he has no friends looool!! guess his mom didn't love him what a retard am i right??

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This guy has been haunting these threads for weeks he's obviously unhealthy

                t. not the guy you were replying to

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe he just cares about something

                found the single mother raised incel

                oh noes I've been found out... uhh.. well.. no u!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                found the single mother raised incel

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >r*ddit
                Go back, fucking moron.

                He obviously had an absent father. It's like Psychology 101. It's not our problem you had too and is taking his pain.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Q: How will artist stop ai?

                A: By shaming ai users, nobody can't withstand being called losers, that's how we police ourselves, peer support and group think is vital to our happiness, so it will also work on them!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what? the anon I was replying to was shaming an anti AI art anon, so your post doesnt make much sense to me, it's the other way around. i'm a bit drunk so too many levels of irony hurt my brain
                but thanks i guess

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                whenever someone tries saying how good and supportive the "art community" is, I can't help but remember

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >art community
                2D art community is 24/7 drama, this is because all 2D artists trace, deny this and try to find others who traced to start a witch hunt on them.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, I trace and don't even hide it.
                It helped me a lot to get right proportions and perspective without grinding it for long hours. Being able to pose 3D mannequins is a god-sent aid.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For me, it's takes longer to pose 3d shit then to draw, my hands are smarter then my brain, lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's matter of practice for sure.
                Right now I am drawing a first image without 3D models and it looks fine. It took a little more try and error to get the pose right, but by sketching it first I eventually nailed it.
                But now I have to draw hands together in kind of unusual pose and I think I am going to give up and make a 3D model first.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Being able to pose 3D mannequins is a god-sent aid.
                That's literally stealing anon. Have you not heard that people used poses before? You have to rely on your imagination, not technically covered theft.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's only cheating if you get caught 😉

                (pro tip, take screen caps and reverse them before tracing over, don't copy from still images and obviously never from other 2D art)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yea, this is also the truth.
                AI is here to stay, no matter what laws EU creates in 10 years (if they're making any, it won't be sooner), AI will change the art market.
                artists who adapt and take up the challenge will prevail. artists who will just seethe and rage on twitter will end up in mcdonalds
                honestly im curious about how art will evolve to overcome the AI challenge

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Try that with an AI.
                don't care
                if you can't draw this in 45 seconds, yer shit outta luck, good luck fattie

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Humans and human artists will need 1 or 2 pictures to see how a character looks from important sides and can draw this character even in their style.
                Yeah. Humans are better at this. You need a little more to make an embedding, around ~20, but it's functionally the same as ordering a commission artist to do it.

                >The point chat bot is that it literally copy pasts from human made pictures.
                The bots live in your head.

                >Since photography is not art.
                Many disagree.

                >Yet you fap to the anime style,while hating 3D woman, very curious.
                3DPD will seethe

                >>not just generate fake photographs.
                >Why?
                Because people are more interested in fake artworks than fake photographs. Realism is nice but limiting.

                >This style is only possible because humans made it.
                Yeah, human invented human art. That is correct.

                >The point is that to this point in time humans where the only ones who made art meaning pictures
                Yeah, we didn't had computer back then. Now we do, and they make nice artworks too.

                >You are celebrating literally removing this skill from humans and replacing it with a glorified booru picture spiting machine. Can yo unto see the problem with humanity being actively harmed ?
                No. I welcome it. AI art has its place, just human digital art or traditional art. Just like digital and synthesized music has its place beside real instruments.

                >Try that with an AI.
                The AI can't converse with you, so you can't do that. But you can make an embedding and call it a day.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Humans are better at this. You need a little more to make an embedding, around ~20, but it's functionally the same as ordering a commission artist to do it.
                And that's just for now. 1-2 iterations later SD and Midjourney will improve to the point that it also needs 1-2 images to copy a style.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And that's just for now. 1-2 iterations later SD and Midjourney will improve to the point that it also needs 1-2 images to copy a style.
                The style? Maybe. A character? I am not so sure.
                I mean, maybe, but at some point it stops being about extracting some vector of features that matches provided images best, and requires some actual understanding of how world works to fill the gaps of what you can't see. It might require some higher level reasoning that is out of reach for AI systems we have today.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And that's just for now. 1-2 iterations later SD and Midjourney will improve to the point that it also needs 1-2 images to copy a style.
                The style? Maybe. A character? I am not so sure.
                I mean, maybe, but at some point it stops being about extracting some vector of features that matches provided images best, and requires some actual understanding of how world works to fill the gaps of what you can't see. It might require some higher level reasoning that is out of reach for AI systems we have today.

                >1-2 iterations later SD and Midjourney will
                No it will not.
                AI is a scam.
                It is not intelligent and has no intelligence. One day we can make real inteligen robots and we will have a bigger problem on the same subject. However your stolen booru picture machine can only rehash whatever it has stolen.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pyw

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                [...]
                Why? It is shit ? I know this.
                I'm not the one celebrating AI and then going
                >I'm an artist and I'm not threatened by this.

                PS: I'm also not an artist.

                What now gayot ?

                Now pyw AI fanboy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/SfiRpnN.jpg

                >you assholes can't even draw
                >pyw then
                >HAHAHAHAH (no)
                kek, everytime

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Here you go anon, 9000 hours in mspaint. Its the FBI raiding shrek for stealing pixels

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SOVL

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "ARTgays" BTFO

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it will not.
                nope, you are stupid
                >It is not intelligent and has no intelligence.
                it's a machine, it can recreate whatever it has been trained on
                you are stupid
                > stolen.
                wrong

                You are stupid and a liar.
                It's pointless to lie to anyone who aren't hysterical females like you.
                Enjoy your ai future, you won't be affected much and won't lose your jobs.
                You will just feel the cringe when you remember how stupid you were years from now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it can recreate whatever it has been trained on
                No it can not, it literally copy pasts from the saved pictures.

                >wrong
                You are wrong, see Be'rok'kul example.

                >and a liar.
                No I am correct. Humans created the anime you fap to from years of development and the first step was them literally trying to draw reality.

                The AI can not do that.
                > just feel the cringe when you remember how stupid you were years from now.
                More like I feel correct and vindicated. Picture related.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go to sleep Uncle Ted, yer drunk.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >More like I feel correct and vindicated.
                You can't even feel that NOW, kek!
                What a failure you are.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it will not.
                I used to say the same thing when I was thinking if AI will ever produce art. It seemed like the last profession on earth to be automated.
                Now (hopefully) we all understand that it doesn't really take much to create a beautiful image. AI can already learn to reliably draw a specific character just from 20 reference images. Will it be reduced to 10? 5? 2? 1? Who knows, I couldn't tell.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It seemed like the last profession on earth to be automated.
                Are you retarded ?
                It was obvious to me since I was a child that robots will be able to do everything a human can faster and better.

                This is the real threat of robots and technology. Robots will take every job and nothing will be left. Humanity will end itself this way.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It seemed like the last profession on earth to be automated.
                >robots will be able to do everything a human can faster and better.
                These statements are not exclusive.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Many disagree.
                Like who ?

                Yes we live in the after photography world and to me unlike the fucken kings painter the important thing is that the impossible things we can imagine in our heads can be made real in drawings. This is the important part about art. Not you making a photo of a important scene. It is something that must happen in reality.

                Good luck seeing a Be'rok'kull anywhere in the woods or whatever.

                >human invented human art.
                And a AI literally can not exit the parameters of whatever styles are given to it. This means you are biting the hand that feeds you! You retarded weeb shit.

                >Yeah, we didn't had computer back then.
                And the weeb is tech illiterate.

                No retard we did have computers in the 2000s etc even lots of anime drawn on computers. We did not have AI back then.

                >No.
                Yes you are biting the hand that feeds you.
                >AI art has its place,
                The point you dumb fuck is that the facts are simple there is no AI art it literally copy pasts from the pictures you feed it.

                >The AI can't converse with you, so you can't do that.
                And you fail to understand how this is a bad thing ?

                >Oh boy I'm so excited to get a picture generator that can not understand new concepts and only rehash the same he-man and megatron gay orgy pictures on my command.

                How excited are you for Marvel movies you retarded weeb ? Do you get excited to see the same shit with spider-man etc ?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Like who ?
                Like wikipedia?
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography?oldformat=true
                >Photography is the art, application, and practice of creating durable images by recording light, either electronically by means of an image sensor, or chemically by means of a light-sensitive material such as photographic film

                >And a AI literally can not exit the parameters of whatever styles are given to it. This means you are biting the hand that feeds you! You retarded weeb shit.
                Pretty much all human styles are derived from previous ones too.

                >>>The point is that to this point in time humans where the only ones who made art meaning pictures
                >>Yeah, we didn't had computer back then.
                >No retard we did have computers in the 2000s etc even lots of anime drawn on computers. We did not have AI back then.
                So anime art is the first style that produced meaningful pictures?
                Wow, I might be a weeb but even I wouldn't go that far.

                >Yes you are biting the hand that feeds you.
                I feed myself too, and others too. I am going to call it circlefeeding.

                >The point you dumb fuck is that the facts are simple there is no AI art it literally copy pasts from the pictures you feed it.
                img2img sure does that, that's the point.

                >And you fail to understand how this is a bad thing ?
                Oh it definitely is a limiting factor. We probably won't see that anytime soon, so people who wish to replace their concept artists or similar with an AI will have to reconsider such ideas. In professional environment AI can at best be one of the tools that a pro will use.

                >How excited are you for Marvel movies you retarded weeb ? Do you get excited to see the same shit with spider-man etc ?
                I am not American.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I am not American.
                then you are not worth talking to

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >AI art it literally copy pasts from the pictures you feed it.

                lmao
                His brain almost melted trying to understand latent diffusion.
                It's clearly way above his league.
                Keep coping. Maybe one day, if you cry harder enough, it will become true!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I do draw actually.
                Post your art.

                >Instead of hiring someone to do it for me
                Like I have explained with the Be'rok'kul example you literally can not. This is literally impossible.
                If you disagree tell your computer to draw a Be'rok'kul and post the results. I wait.

                What you retard can not understand is the AI literally depends on being fed 100s of 100s of a picture of a given character. Pictures that HUMANS draw first.
                These stolen pictures (and they are always stolen even if they literally are in the public domain) are used to copy past a picture together in the AI.

                This is all the AI can literally do nothing if someone does not steal human created pictures and feeds it to the AI.

                >Just like most humans.
                No retard you are to retarded to understand the world. The difference is that a human is a human. End of story.

                The other bonus is that I can explain to a human how a Be'rok'kul looks like in words. You can not do that to an AI you need to feed it pre made pictures who are tagged with Be'rok'kul and it can never deviate from these pictures.

                >Just like most humans.
                Like debunked before a human is a human.
                This mean that if I lets say publish my Be'rok'kul literature or talk to a human artist to make me Be'rok'kul pictures these characters become part of pop culture who can then be referenced or influence other art.

                Try doing that with your computer try getting a
                >Be'rok'kul fights darth vader
                Picture from your AI. I wait. Do that. Literally do that now.

                >Just like most humans.
                Sorry no. The first art was based on things that exist in reality you know huamn body, humans animals. And humans are humans.
                What you want is that no human has any skill and like the no skill you only asks the AI to make him a Marvel x Star wars gay orgy picture #4546567456346467

                >, it doesn't prevents me from drawing what I like.
                Post your work.
                1/2

                2/2
                >The AI generates my waifu quite well.
                It is like I'm talking to the most retarded retard in existence.
                >The AI generates my waifu quite well.
                Yes from all the pictures it has stolen.
                DO
                YOU
                UNDERSTAND
                THIS ?!

                It only can do this because the AI stole 100s of 100s of pictures of this character from the internet. If you disagree make your AI make a picture that has a Be'rok'kul in it.
                I wait.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you insist talking about the technical details of the AI when you genuinely do not know a single thing about it, and refuses to learn when people tell what's going on to your face? Are you even interested in technology? Why are you on BOT?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and refuses to learn when people tell what's going on to your face
            Translation
            >Accept my meaningless mumbo jumbo that literally makes no sense because I make it sound technical !

            >technology
            Is this technology enough for you :
            >The AI literally gives 99.999% identical pictures to the ones it was """"""""""""trained on""""""""""""
            Is this technology enough for you ?

            >Noo ree be confused by my mumbo jumbo that I even do not understand and use the retarded bottom up method instead of the correct top down method
            Top down black box thinking gayot !

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              See: [...]

              >b-b-b-b
              Shut up.

              >by the artist themselves
              Does not mean you can right click and pretend you made this.
              >by the artist themselves
              It gets extra illegal if you then place it on some music album and sell it.

              >b-b-b- right click to save
              Retard.

              Repeating yourself will not make how you think things work true, anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All your non arguments got debunked.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOO I WILL NOT LISTEN TO HOW THE MODEL WORKS IT GOES AGAINST MY AGENDA IT'S INCOMPREHENSIBLE BABBLE IT'S NOT A ME PROBLEM IT WAS WORTH GETTING MY ART DEGREE I AM QUALIFIED TO OPINIONATE ON EVERY TOPIC VAN GOGH WOULD SUCK MY COCK IF HE WAS ALIVE

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You showed em

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you replied 😉

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This retard comes in every AI thread to show his enflamed butthole. And every single time he gets BTFO, lmao.
            But it in his head, it's time well spent.
            It's kinda pathetic, tbh.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh is he "the schizo" from the last few threads?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. The writing style, the brainlet takes and the leddit spacing doesn't lie.
                I find it pretty amusing seeing him raging and getting treated like the retard kid he is.
                But being realistic, engaging him is just a waste of time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can shave a novel and a half by just saying
      >pls no lying mmkay
      >i want my art handmade
      You lot want your space, and pesky robots are encroaching.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't read, keep seething cuck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      brevity is the soul of wit. Your point would be served all the same in a few sentences.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nice meme but it's not wit. I bet you can't read a book because it has more than four pages.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you are right, but BOT is full of people who hate artists and art in general (maybe with the exception of tranime). that's like going to 4chan and trying to convince them to like morons. just let this be an echochamber of bad faith arguments and whatnot

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >BOT is full of people who hate artists and art in general
        It fucking isn't. Or wasn't.
        This is all a leftypol raid. Look at this thread, no one is posting generated art.
        People like the AI because it prints pretty pictures. Artists point out the massive fuck-you the whole thing is to them. Leftypol sweeps in to sow division for the sake of political expediency.
        People who don't give a fuck about how the AI was made don't give a fuck about what cunts on twitter are saying, they wouldn't have caught on to there being a controversy without an instigator showing up and selling them a narrative. The idiots here just bought it hook line and sinker and now think they need to advance space communism to own the leftists.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          from what ive seen, its a pretty much right wing/alt right position to be pro-AI art. because artist are generally leftwing, rightwingers feel like AI is finally destroying those lefties. and i say this as a rightwinger myself.
          of course its a schizo position. right wingers should love traditional art and true beauty, yet the AI followers dont realize AI is not only destroying the lefty soulless art, but also will make it harder for traditional artists

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >artist are generally leftwing
            This is false, though. Conservative views generally come out of good understanding of a given subject, so a skilled professional in any field is more likely to be politically conservative than someone without the same level of skill.
            Getting good at art requires a lot of hard work and creating good images requires lots of critical thinking, You can't exactly paint a pretty woman without knowing exactly what anatomical characteristics are feminine or generally attractive.
            Artists are like gamers except they don't want to play politics because they're too busy with art so they mostly don't say anything. The rule of thumb is that if someone has worked for what they have, then they don't feel guilty about having it, and therefore they don't want wealth redistribution. If you go and ask, they'll admit being right-leaning in private, at the least when it's about something they actually know something about.

            And I'm not talking about twitter homos here. If the AI draws pretty stuff, it was fed pretty art. Those artists exist too.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I hope you're right, but Im pessimistic.
              but the rest of my post stands, just look at this thread. every other pro-AI post has some rightwing remark at the end like "dilate" or "kys chud", again saying this as a (self aware) rightwing chud myself lol

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it was fed pretty art
              That was from dead western painters and anime artists... there is almost zero modern western artist worth training on, sadly.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are, you're just on BOT and don't know.
                But the thing is, most of those artists work as concept artists in game and movie/TV studios. Their work isn't very public, but because of the fast turnaround required for the work they're very likely to be replaced by AI. This is also the actual ArtStation userbase, the concept art industry is the reason ArtStation sells itself as a marketing platform. Art directors and other non-artist industry people shop there for talent.

                The situation became like this because the internet made pictures so worthless they don't even fit Spotify's business model of music being literally worthless. You've almost certainly never paid to see an image, but you've certainly seen a YouTube ad in front of a music video or paid for Spotify. There's no market for illustration like there is for all other media, it's all provided for free and indexed by Google with only an "image might be subject to copyright" disclaimer reminding you that someone worked to produce that thing. So nobody even knows what it means when "artists are being replaced by AI." They don't know who, or in what context, because for most people 'art' means this visual charity that runs on deviantart, twitter and pixiv. Only one of those has a monetization scheme, and it's supposed to be somehow revolutionary.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you ever actually looked? This idea that all contemporary western cultural works are worthless trash seems like a necessary point in some really shitty narrative someone is trying to sell you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are, you're just on BOT and don't know.
                But the thing is, most of those artists work as concept artists in game and movie/TV studios. Their work isn't very public, but because of the fast turnaround required for the work they're very likely to be replaced by AI. This is also the actual ArtStation userbase, the concept art industry is the reason ArtStation sells itself as a marketing platform. Art directors and other non-artist industry people shop there for talent.

                The situation became like this because the internet made pictures so worthless they don't even fit Spotify's business model of music being literally worthless. You've almost certainly never paid to see an image, but you've certainly seen a YouTube ad in front of a music video or paid for Spotify. There's no market for illustration like there is for all other media, it's all provided for free and indexed by Google with only an "image might be subject to copyright" disclaimer reminding you that someone worked to produce that thing. So nobody even knows what it means when "artists are being replaced by AI." They don't know who, or in what context, because for most people 'art' means this visual charity that runs on deviantart, twitter and pixiv. Only one of those has a monetization scheme, and it's supposed to be somehow revolutionary.

                give names

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Even if what you were saying is true, and it's by no means a general truism
              >so a skilled professional in any field is more likely to be politically conservative than someone without the same level of skill.
              This still doesn't mean artists aren't generally left wing, just that highly skilled artists are more likely to be conservative than their novice counterparts. The overall rate of conservativism can still be low and is.
              It's not like artists are generally successful in the market place. Their job is basically the default laughing stock of poverty and failure. Obviously people in a position like this are going to be interested in systems without a monetary quantification of value which plays right into leftist hands.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >artist are generally leftwing
            This is false, though. Conservative views generally come out of good understanding of a given subject, so a skilled professional in any field is more likely to be politically conservative than someone without the same level of skill.
            Getting good at art requires a lot of hard work and creating good images requires lots of critical thinking, You can't exactly paint a pretty woman without knowing exactly what anatomical characteristics are feminine or generally attractive.
            Artists are like gamers except they don't want to play politics because they're too busy with art so they mostly don't say anything. The rule of thumb is that if someone has worked for what they have, then they don't feel guilty about having it, and therefore they don't want wealth redistribution. If you go and ask, they'll admit being right-leaning in private, at the least when it's about something they actually know something about.

            And I'm not talking about twitter homos here. If the AI draws pretty stuff, it was fed pretty art. Those artists exist too.

            Artists that are against "AI stealing them jebs" are picrelated:

            https://i.imgur.com/Gr2DGYc.jpg

            https://i.imgur.com/CWj98c7.jpg

            https://i.imgur.com/4L621XI.png

            >You have no skill and you have no talent
            Neither do you chud

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Greetings visiting artists, please remember to offer your sincere gratitude to a programming techchud today, after all they made photoshop and all the other digital art tools for (You)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I pirate AI models and human art.

      Get on my level.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I pay for AI models and pirate human art

        Get on MY level

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, I kneel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          gay fuck yourself chud piece of shit moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No you fucking you! Fuck you bloody!

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    99% of people complaining about AI art has no idea how it works

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI art is bussin frfr no cap lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what is the prompt for this masterpiece? obv its img2img.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        (You:1.2)

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most artists, usually the ones on Twitter, are whiny, toxic little shitheaps who deserve to be impoverished, but they might have a case with AI "stealing" their art.

    Even though they're not literally doing so, as in their art is not located anywhere in the trained model, you can approximate training images using their associated descriptions as prompts. Maybe some text generalization can come into play so people can't do this anymore.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they might have a case with AI "stealing" their art.
      >Even though they're not literally doing so, as in their art is not located anywhere in the trained model,
      This is clearly img2img, retard.
      If you open someone's work in photoshop, add a filter to it and publish it, it doesn't mean photoshop is stealing your art. It's someone using the tool to alter your image, that's literally what happened here.
      I can literally do the same thing in 2 minutes, it literally has nothing to do with art being used for training.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I opened the browser and typed in some tags in a booru and saved the picture and then published it as my own AI creation. Pleas stop blaming AI.
        This is literally you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I literally have no idea what kind of point are you trying to make.
          Are you disagreeing with me that it was an img2img?
          Or are you claiming that using a photoshop is like using a booru?
          Or what?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >REeee me not understand
            We know you are a retard.
            >REeee I got this picture database and I typed in moon anime astronaut waifu into it and posted the picture. Why are people mad ?
            >The people who made the database filled it with stolen pictures not me

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Stolen pictures (uploaded free of charge on the internet by the artist themselves)
              Downloading is theft, don't you know anon? Install the Disney-Microsoft DRM to have access to the internet, without it how will we know you won't commit merciless theft by right clicking and downloading an image

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See:

                https://i.imgur.com/tbankFE.jpg

                >This applies to 99% of artists.
                Cope. If art stopped 100 years ago this is all you get today. So no anime picture faces.
                > will have higher chance
                Cope useless no talent.

                Admit that you are anti-human and anti-skill because you are a useless no skill neet that can literally never learn to make art.

                >The only thing AI fanboys want
                It is named a booru and you can use that right?
                With AI art you literally only get booru pictures who are stolen from other artists and metadata for these pictures who is stolen from the booru users who tagged these pictures.

                >b-b-b- I want
                Learn to draw.
                >b-b-b-b
                You have no skills.

                >draw their waifu
                This is literally impossible. You know I have fiction that is unpublished a whole universe of fictional characters who are unique as fuck in their looks.

                Guess what happens when you type in
                >Darth Vader on a shark.
                into the AI.
                Now guess what happens if I type in
                >Be'rok'kull face close up with planet and moon behind.

                The AI has no fucken idea what a Be'rok'kull is.it knows what a planet and a moon are. You get random crap if you try this. The AI literally learned what a Darth Vader is from stealing 100s of pictures from the internet or whoever trained it stole these pictures and the tags people placed on them.

                The AI is not smart or anything it can only "learn" by stealing pictures humans made. Punishing humans will only result in AI being unable to learn anything new so you are stuck with the same Marvel/Star Wars shit forever. Do you want this future ?

                >b-b-b-b
                Shut up.

                >by the artist themselves
                Does not mean you can right click and pretend you made this.
                >by the artist themselves
                It gets extra illegal if you then place it on some music album and sell it.

                >b-b-b- right click to save
                Retard.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I got this picture database and I typed in moon anime astronaut waifu into it and posted the picture. Why are people mad ?
              >>The people who made the database filled it with stolen pictures not me
              Cool theory, there is just one problem.
              The original artwork in question was uploaded on September 24: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/101454734
              The music was uploaded on October 14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAdae7diOU
              There was no model that was released in that timeframe that could possibly have that image in the database.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cool theory, there is just one problem.
                I do not care about your autism.
                >b-b-b this one example
                There are 100s others the AI steals pictures.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BTFO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you can approximate training images using their associated descriptions as prompts
      Not really. If you read the paper people cite for this they found that if you use prompts taken directly from the training data 1.88% of the time you get an image that exceeds a similarity threshold for another image in the dataset, but not neccessarily the same one the prompt came from.

      The vast majority of the 5 billion images in the training set will be unreconstructable.

      Also worth noting that they found more frequent similarity comparing a given training set image to the rest of training set, some of this will be duplicated images but others with be cases of human to human plagiarisation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's the paper? i wanna read it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://arxiv.org/pdf/2212.03860.pdf

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >STEALING ART IS ONLY OKAY WHEN PEOPLE DO IT!!
    It's like the whole Sony vs Microsoft bullshit over Activision.
    >EXCLUSIVES ARE ONLY OKAY WHEN WE (SONY) DO IT REEE OUR MARKET POWER!!!

  10. 1 month ago
    кaни

    ai does not exist
    neither does the amerimutt art
    nor moron art
    in art you express your soul
    neither computers nor americans or morons have soul
    very simple matter

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you will own nothing
    you will eat ze bugs
    you will live in cage
    you consume goyslop AI art

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't consume it, I produce it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I produce it
        No you don't, just like you don't produce the food that you order at a restaurant, you're just the client picking the menu here. Everything else, the whole operation was set-up by other people, machines and algorithms. You're just the end consumer. The goy consuming AI vomit.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The AI is a moron. His entire life is decided for him by someone else, he obediently thinks and does exactly what he's told, and all his crimes are forgiven because he's cleared from moral responsibility. He has no soul, no creativity or ambition, and his presence makes society less safe and trusting.
    The person training the AI and generating art with it is a garden gnome. He takes advantage of his host culture by stealing as much as possible and selling what was provided to him for free for profit. He undermines his host by importing and subsidizing morons. He accuses his benefactors of everything he does and cries out as he hits you.
    If AI art wins, this figurative pair will rule artistry for the remainder of human existence and beyond.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The AI is a moron.
      True dat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Blacks are morons
        >Invents new black "people"
        Lel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's not ai, it's 3d

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ai can do 3D, you blithering fucktard

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How would anyone even go about banning AI anyways?
    It's just a bunch of code anyone can run on any computer. There is no definite way to proof Art was generated by AI correct? How would they even know, just say you made it yourself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you really think this is about banning AI?
      It will only be some virtue signaling, maybe some companies will have to rebrand, but in the greater scheme of things it will only result in companies like Disney mending copyrights so they can milk that Mickey Mouse for 10 years longer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its like a chud, the hands always give it away

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        underrated

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone not totally delusional realizes they can't stop it being made. What they can do is delegitimize its use except by approved models run by big corps on a paid subscription basis.

      That's really what this is about - control. Your average coomer will still be able to make his big tittie waifu, but if he tries to put it on the internet he will have committed a copyright crime. Anything generated by CORPODIFFUSION(R)(T) will be legitimate art.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The retards will make right clicking the jpegs they posted on public websites free of charge fall into piracy laws

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I live for the drama. Artists accusing artists of using AI, artists turning against artists for spamming their site full of anti-AI images and drown out real art, it's juicy, it's delicious.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Note that once the suits have their approved "real controlled safety copyright diffusion art" model confirmed as the only legitimate one, artist protests will suddenly disappear entirely. Oh they will still happen, sure, but as we've seen the past few years total media silence means they really didn't happen at all and everything is going just dandy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pure conspiracy theory. Let's wait and see.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI art will never die, there will more than enough critics.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >one of the best ways to study art is to emulate your favorite artists until you fully internalize their art style 🙂
    >NOOOOOOOOO you cant just let an AI study hundreds of thousands of drawings so that it can generate its own drawings

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so glad AI is taking over artistic and creativity space. I'm so sick of these useless people

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can go around asking actual artists what their prompt was or if they used Midjourney or SD in the same way people troll women by asking how long they've been on HRT.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >troll
      Post your work.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        10 minutes in Paint.NET. I don't give a fuck about spending more on drawing memes.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Literally nothing
          >[copy pasted meme pictures and edits]

          You have no skill and you have no talent, society should actively discriminate ageist you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You have no skill and you have no talent
            Neither do you chud

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > [no skill neet cries]
              Typical.

              Funny how you pick the lowest of the low.
              >8 watchers
              I assume you made this account to false flag.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >[no skill neet cries]
                I earn more that you did from furry commissions and my work is actually needed and won't be replaced by AI not until it is sentient, and possibly even more because of certifications and unions.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do I have talent?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              pretty good, 7/10

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              More than the anon you quoted, he has to steal images off the internet

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >slavic runes
          go back

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can go around asking actual artists what their prompt was or if they used Midjourney or SD in the same way people troll women by asking how long they've been on HRT.
      Zamn.
      Fucking brutal.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      literally souless vs soul

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Soul

        Dude she got WORSE over 6 years

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Some kid having fun drawing and posting
      >LOOK LOOK, THE ART IS SHTIE OMG
      Are you 12?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        (the "kid" is like ~30)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are clearly retard.
        Learn to read.
        She has 20 yo.
        Also, wanting to be morally superior in BOT.
        lol, lmao even

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >At least 20 years old (first drawing at 15 years old second five years later)
        >Kid

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are clearly retard.
          Learn to read.
          She has 20 yo.
          Also, wanting to be morally superior in BOT.
          lol, lmao even

          (the "kid" is like ~30)

          Adults start at 25, you pedos

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    libs owned

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuel for this argument

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >7000 pixels long

        I have never seen an entire Reddit thread compressed into an image before lel

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this guy has no arms and has to draw with his mouth, fuck off with this whole disability thing. Now disabled artists have to compete with being flooded out by ai shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pyw, let's see if you are better then the gimp

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's fucking disgustingly hard and we shouldn't subject disabled people to have to do that just to make art, holy fuck this is the point that a b l e i s t s don't fucking GET

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually a good point. Why subject disabled people to perform fucking circus acts just to paint that's kinda messed up.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's fucking disgustingly hard and we shouldn't subject disabled people to have to do that just to make art, holy fuck this is the point that a b l e i s t s don't fucking GET

            he wants to be a performing monkey, let him be
            also I think he's dead already

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        chinks are human

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t. bugman

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      > I will not show my art
      Show your art or you are debunked.

      >Noo you first
      WRONG gayOT ! I'm not the one parading
      >AI is so great !
      >Actually I draw and see no problem with AI art.

      Post your sonichu level doodles no skill.

      Post your great work.

      Literally the only ones who love AI art are no skill neets who can only doodle like a toddler and hope AI will give them art for free that they can presumably sell.

      https://i.imgur.com/4aORqwd.jpg

      THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL SOUND LIKE

      Post your art no skill neet.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL SOUND LIKE

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So artists are working class commoners?
      Please save us, bougie commies! We're being oppressed by... Bougie commies! Won't you please masturbate to an endless stream of anime titties for my sake? Lift me out of the poverty I deserve for breaking my spine in honest labor!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So artists are working class commoners?
        no, blue collar workers have unions, artgays all think they will be rich and famous someday, just like republicunts

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    r/DefendingAIArt
    r/LoveForAIArt

    GO BACK TO R3DDIT STOP SHITTING UP BOT EVERY GODDAMN DAY

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish they were only shitting up BOT

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They could stay in their containment boards and stay near each other and actually get shit done with their "activism" while the rest of us can finally rest.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >LoveForAIArt

      How did I know it was a rdrama.net sub?

      Pretty based though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DefendingAIArt are gays, IQFY tried to raid them

        TAKE IT TO PLEBBIT
        TAKE IT TO PLEBBIT
        TAKE IT TO PLEBBIT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DefendingAIArt are gays, IQFY tried to raid them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. reddit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go back.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          stay there

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go back to your containment subs gay

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              reddit has banned ai shit in all their major subs with millions, it's the paintpig site where hyterical inkcels rule

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's why I hope the drama sub takes off it'll cause so much seething

                reddtards can't detect satire for shit they fall for every LoveFor___ sub every fucking time

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                devilish!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/zw9s91/a_collection_of_some_art_i_made_with_proai/

      https://reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/zw9s91/a_collection_of_some_art_i_made_with_proai/

      https://reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/zw9s91/a_collection_of_some_art_i_made_with_proai/

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA CRINGE
      SUCH CRINGE
      I CAN'T BELIEVE THE CRINGE
      IS THIS THE BEST AI TARDS HAVE?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please, take your meds.
        I bet your parents are crying right now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One cringy artpiece isn't going to destroy a movement

          Fuck off schizo calm down

          SEETHE ROBOT RETARDS
          YOU'RE THE ONES SEETHING NOW
          C R I N G E

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >movement
            ultra cringe, [email protected]

            Please take your meds this is unhealthy AF

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One cringy artpiece isn't going to destroy a movement

        Fuck off schizo calm down

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What they don't tell you is that "piece" is 1/2,000,000,000th of their artwork and is essentially the fairest fair use ever created. Using a color picker on someone's art would be closer to stealing.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >their artwork
        the model is trained only in art that scores high on aesthetics, their art was not used to trained any models

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >last panel
      not reading that shit, seether harder inkcels

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >https://www.artstation.com/danilocirillo

      This is the guy that wants AI art outlawed and argues that AI is stealing from him

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >westcuck weeb
        >ugly tranime
        kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/YbUZ2Fa.png

        >westcuck weeb
        >ugly tranime
        kek

        https://i.imgur.com/5hBXSgK.gif

        [...]
        Like clockwork

        Post your own work

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        his other ai picture is even less coherent
        he's saying saying it's ok when he does it

        his own "reference" picture is more like its sources than this "copy" picture

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          note he stopped using the the word "steal"
          >"this is bad"
          lmao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i also like how they always use img2img examples and try to make them as like the input as they can
            like yea, if you copy a picture then it's a copy, may as well ban photo shop because you can open and save existing pictures with minimal changes using it, too, nothing specific to ai

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              oh, ai is okay for "study" now
              what a turn around
              guess we have to wait couple of more weeks for ai to "not all that bad"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                literally every AI image every generated has been for study in some interpretation

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I also enjoy my studies as well...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          his english is really weird, where's he from?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/HGjh8z1.jpg

      >https://www.artstation.com/danilocirillo

      This is the guy that wants AI art outlawed and argues that AI is stealing from him

      Like clockwork

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not paying anything, artchud, I'm generooting for free

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yo
      I need this model

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/90016604/#q90017759

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SOUL

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chischan is autistic and they don't have a soul so it works perfectly

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't wait till he gets out of prison and we will have sonichu ownership arc: electric boogalo

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chris doesn't give a fuck about Sonichu anymore it's all this CPU goddess bullshit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      K I N O

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Learn how diffusion works and stop spreading misinfo.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I made a cake to share with everyone
      Okay I like your cake and I'll take a piece and use it to learn how to make my own cake
      >NOOOOOO YOURE NOT USING MY CAKE RIGHT GIVE IT BACK

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cake analogy is retarded, artists are retards who can not communicate.
        See

        https://i.imgur.com/tbankFE.jpg

        >This applies to 99% of artists.
        Cope. If art stopped 100 years ago this is all you get today. So no anime picture faces.
        > will have higher chance
        Cope useless no talent.

        Admit that you are anti-human and anti-skill because you are a useless no skill neet that can literally never learn to make art.

        >The only thing AI fanboys want
        It is named a booru and you can use that right?
        With AI art you literally only get booru pictures who are stolen from other artists and metadata for these pictures who is stolen from the booru users who tagged these pictures.

        >b-b-b- I want
        Learn to draw.
        >b-b-b-b
        You have no skills.

        >draw their waifu
        This is literally impossible. You know I have fiction that is unpublished a whole universe of fictional characters who are unique as fuck in their looks.

        Guess what happens when you type in
        >Darth Vader on a shark.
        into the AI.
        Now guess what happens if I type in
        >Be'rok'kull face close up with planet and moon behind.

        The AI has no fucken idea what a Be'rok'kull is.it knows what a planet and a moon are. You get random crap if you try this. The AI literally learned what a Darth Vader is from stealing 100s of pictures from the internet or whoever trained it stole these pictures and the tags people placed on them.

        The AI is not smart or anything it can only "learn" by stealing pictures humans made. Punishing humans will only result in AI being unable to learn anything new so you are stuck with the same Marvel/Star Wars shit forever. Do you want this future ?

        You go and use your AI to make you 100s of pictures of Be'rok'kull and I rate them if it is correct.

        The AI steals since there is no intelligence behind it it does not understand anything it only remembers millions of pictures and their tags and then farts out things it frankensteined from the pictures it remembered.

        The difference is that I can explain to a human how a Be'rok'kull looks like and they will understand and draw it.
        If the AI can not do that it is proven that it literally only copy pasting from artist pictures it stole.

        The bad thing about this is not artists feefees getting hurt it is that you are literally celebrating harming humanity itself since no creativity is possible now the AI can fart out 100s of existing characters from existing franchises ONLY. Nothing new or invented on the spot.

        In contrast you can give general guidelines to a human artist and he can draw it practically great the first time. Even with 1 crappy child drawing or only words.

        You are celebrating to only be able to make your he-man Star Wars fan fiction pictures only.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Oh yeah, just like humans.
          Did the bot break ?

          >100s of 100s of a picture of a given character.
          No retard or bot. Humans and human artists will need 1 or 2 pictures to see how a character looks from important sides and can draw this character even in their style.

          >Just like human that never seen a painting won't know how to make one.
          Did the bot break ?

          >Oh yeah that's true
          So you drop your previous points bot ?
          >This is an AI, not AGI,
          The point chat bot is that it literally copy pasts from human made pictures.

          >You can train an AI using real life photographs too
          Yes and this is a different subject. Since photography is not art.
          >styles that originated from the limitations of tools at their
          Yet you fap to the anime style,while hating 3D woman, very curious.

          I know I'm talking to a bot however.
          >not just generate fake photographs.
          Why?
          >Reee [incoherent weeb shit] I fap to the anime style only and hate photographs of real woman .... AI generate me this style
          This style is only possible because humans made it.

          > Commission artists
          Humans are humans. What can you not grasp about this ? The point is that to this point in time humans where the only ones who made art meaning pictures. You are celebrating literally removing this skill from humans and replacing it with a glorified booru picture spiting machine. Can yo unto see the problem with humanity being actively harmed ?

          Because you are a no skill neet who has no money and is a cancer on humanity.

          >Commission artists also ask for reference
          I bet retard/bot that if I challenge some artists to prove a point and only give them descriptions how a Be'rok'kul looks like they can understand it and draw it. After some refining on what they made we can get closer to what is in my head however I get the first one will be 75% if not 90% on the point.

          Try that with an AI.

          based redditer
          never have I read something more elegant and ignorant
          >I refuse to read even the simplest explanation of how the tech works and will post artgays youtubers as evidence
          very based

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gay drawing stickman doodles complains about AI stealing his job

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        drawing stickman doodles
        Post your drawings.
        We wait, we need to bully a no skill gayot like you.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, pyw
          you are at BOT, nobody claims to draw here in teh first place, but you do
          how do we know you aren't just BOT trolls pretending to be artgays?

          btw, nobody has pyw
          such pride, such skill
          very impressive

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I too can draw stickman doodles, but I don't want to waste more than an hour or two on drawing anything or waste time to "learn to draw", since AI can generate much better art than me or "comic doodlers" that call themselves artists.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I have no skill
            Thank you for admitting defeat.
            >AI will let me make pictures
            Sorry anon AI is literally like a booru it literally steals pictures, you did not make them, you do not own them.

            >AI will let me make pictures
            You are a no skill retard and everything that is wrong with humanity.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              pyw

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/SfiRpnN.jpg

                >you assholes can't even draw
                >pyw then
                >HAHAHAHAH (no)
                kek, everytime

                Why? It is shit ? I know this.
                I'm not the one celebrating AI and then going
                >I'm an artist and I'm not threatened by this.

                PS: I'm also not an artist.

                What now gayot ?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >PS: I'm also not an artist.
                KEK those are the people arguing for outlawing AI art. Either a Disney corporate stooge or a blithering idiot who couldn't figure out SD or MJ.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but any chance to post my AI Apus.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        drawing stickman doodles
        Post your drawings.
        We wait, we need to bully a no skill gayot like you.

        no, pyw
        you are at BOT, nobody claims to draw here in teh first place, but you do
        how do we know you aren't just BOT trolls pretending to be artgays?

        btw, nobody has pyw
        such pride, such skill
        very impressive

        >HAHAHAHAH He draws like trash AHAHAHA !
        >PS: I'm not posting my work (because it makes his look great in comparison to my trash)

        The less skill you have the more you judge others.
        Post your work.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you assholes can't even draw
          >pyw then
          >HAHAHAHAH (no)
          kek, everytime

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The less skill you have the more you judge others.
          I don't claim to be an artist, but trash comic drawers don't deserve that title either. Stonetoss is pro-AI and she draws better that them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't claim to be an artist,
            Whatever.
            Whoever says
            >I'm an artist and I'm not threatened by this.
            Or
            >I draw and I'm not threatened by this.
            Needs to post their work.

            >Stonetoss
            Is retarded, remember when he was sucking the dick of crypto and saying it is not a bubble ?

            >better that them.
            No worse.
            >Comic
            HAHAHA The retard does not understand that modern shit art is the response of the invention of the camera, since photos can replace portrait artists they needed to change so they started making bullshit. This means that photography is responsible for modern art.

            Do you understand why AI Art is a problem for humanity now ?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Do you understand why AI Art is a problem for humanity now ?

              Only monkeys fear fire.
              Since we are not a low IQ moron like you, we actually WORK with AI.
              But keep crying and screaming, your time is surely well spent amusing us.
              Dance monkey, dance!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we actually WORK with AI.
                Translation.
                >Oh boy I'm so proud to be a no skill retard who must ask the computer to do everything.
                >Humans having any skill ? No. Computer do that we no skill.

                >fire
                Posting like a retard I see.
                >Technology is like fire
                I'm sure you are aware that because of the use of fire humans evolved into being unable to eat non cooked food making humans addicted to fire.

                >But keep crying and screaming, your time is surely well spent amusing us.
                Whatever. I'm the man who is warning all humans, your techno fetishism will be the end of us all. Take it whatever way you like it neet gayot.At worst I'm the Casandra of a inevitable future that ends all civilizations.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm the man who is warning all humans

                Nobody cares about a schizo "warning". You literally have too low cognitive power to understand something about ML. It is waaaay above your league.

                >neet
                See. You can't even keep up with a 4 lines response, kek!

                Nobody cares that your father didn't love you. But if you take your meds, maybe you can get a friend. Retard like you, probably, but still, better than spend your day getting humiliated in BOT.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>I draw and I'm not threatened by this.
              In fact it will allow me to create better stuff where I can generate parts of art or use img2img on my art. Do you also think context-aware cut&fill are stealing from artists that would otherwise have to trace/draw by hand?

              https://i.imgur.com/tbankFE.jpg

              >This applies to 99% of artists.
              Cope. If art stopped 100 years ago this is all you get today. So no anime picture faces.
              > will have higher chance
              Cope useless no talent.

              Admit that you are anti-human and anti-skill because you are a useless no skill neet that can literally never learn to make art.

              >The only thing AI fanboys want
              It is named a booru and you can use that right?
              With AI art you literally only get booru pictures who are stolen from other artists and metadata for these pictures who is stolen from the booru users who tagged these pictures.

              >b-b-b- I want
              Learn to draw.
              >b-b-b-b
              You have no skills.

              >draw their waifu
              This is literally impossible. You know I have fiction that is unpublished a whole universe of fictional characters who are unique as fuck in their looks.

              Guess what happens when you type in
              >Darth Vader on a shark.
              into the AI.
              Now guess what happens if I type in
              >Be'rok'kull face close up with planet and moon behind.

              The AI has no fucken idea what a Be'rok'kull is.it knows what a planet and a moon are. You get random crap if you try this. The AI literally learned what a Darth Vader is from stealing 100s of pictures from the internet or whoever trained it stole these pictures and the tags people placed on them.

              The AI is not smart or anything it can only "learn" by stealing pictures humans made. Punishing humans will only result in AI being unable to learn anything new so you are stuck with the same Marvel/Star Wars shit forever. Do you want this future ?

              >Be'rok'kull face close up with planet and moon behind
              What the fuck is that even, some sonichu character?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What the fuck is that
                It is not Marvel or DC character so your Zoomer SÖY-gay brain rejects it.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is fun I have to say

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad we're discussing technology and NOT spreading misinformation from both sides.

    Wouldn't be really silly and goofy if that was actually the case? Haha, imagine.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is the pro AI side spreading misinfo?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are claiming ai shit is good, lol.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You cannot differentiate AI art from human art.
          Don't fool yourself, kid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            prove it

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek, we have the next potential mass shooter
    IN THIS THREAD

    This paranoid garden gnome may actually kill people for making art with AI

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Someone is 100% going to get killed by an artist for using AI sometime soon

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        careful everyone, he's gonna drown us all in his tears

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I did a crime and now people are angry at me
        He needs to be thrown into prison
        >b-b-b I'm a no skill tech fanboy and I want to sell books
        Learn to draw no skill.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've been committing theft, stealing pixels from artists this whole time?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you wouldnt download a artist

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        looks like a garden gnome and/or chud

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek, the "artist" is here crying like a bitch instead of making "xis/hex" art.
    first, you have to learn to do Loomis or better, learn to code, you will need the last one more than the first.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is, for sure, very low skill.
      That is why is so butthurt that a GPU can be more artist in seconds than him in his entire lifetime.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, if we storm /ic/ with this shit, ~~*they*~~ will delete our thread on sight.
        this thing who tinks he's an artist (and a woman, both failed) is insane.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best thing about this debate is, while the artists cry, I make more money with AI.
    Life is amazing!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How and where do you sell your art?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he makes CP on pixiv and use fanbox to make money from pedos

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hey, it's a living

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >implying pedos are bad people

          Woman above 20 doesn't deserve a "Good morning".

          >b-b-b-b-b-but
          Nobody cares about your feelings, post-walled roastie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            t. pedo

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >implying pedos are bad people

              Woman above 20 doesn't deserve a "Good morning".

              >b-b-b-b-b-but
              Nobody cares about your feelings, post-walled roastie.

              pathetic same-gay

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >same-gay

                Go back, retarded moron.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            femoids being femoids doesn't make you less of a degenerate

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is pure nature.
              Nature doesn't give a fuck about your sissy feeling.
              A girl peak reproduction time is around 16 yo.
              Only mutts think "above 21 is a child".

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                spics fuck off

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ah, I see the tranime "art" enthusiast is still monitoring the thread

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My friend has a poster shop. With fancy frames and shit.
        He gets arts from a bunch of people, pay them, prints and sell it.
        It is usually normie pop culture. Like Bart playing vidya, etc.

        In my case, we decided not to charge upfront, he would pay me 20% of the selling price, since he was a little skeptical about AI.
        Result: we sold more AI posters in the 3 months than in the last year.
        So everytime I see "AI art is ugly", "nobody cares about AI art", I laugh so hard. And continue to laugh my way to the bank.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Artists really need to journey out of their twitter bubble and look from an outsiders perspective at how retarded this is making them look.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The debate is real simple:

    If I see an image made by an AI: I go, cool, that's neat tech

    If I see an image made by an """"artist"""" then I wonder, why isn't that fleshbag being put to something more productive, like breathing in fumes at the coal mines to protect the miners (real men), like a human photosynthesis machine, or at the very least, the artist could be helping the wagie with my McRib double meal order.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of mindset is that?
      Why everybody have to work meaningless physical jobs with no self expression and no progress? Being just a cog in a machine.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        do want you want, but you don't have a right to my money becasue you spent all day sniffing your farts and being an "artist"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not talking about your money, I'm talking about the mindset that says that people should work at factories or something.
          Working at factories is not natural for humans. There's nothing inherently good in that. On the contrary, it is a bad, harmful job that makes life meaningless. You should maybe fight to free people from that work instead.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everything you touch is made by Chinese slaves who are desperate to work in factories over dying in poverty back home in rural villages.

            You are a 1st world bourgeois parasite complaining about the only tech that can save everyone from the factory nightmare you speak of, automation and ai, because it makes better tiddie pictures than you.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Actually, I'm not complaining about AI art, I'm trying to figure out what it all means.
              I just don't like this mindset that everyone should be miserable.
              The problematic part for me at this point is: how am I supposed to exploit other people if I don't like being subjected to exploitation myself?
              "I don't want to be a slave, therefore you be my slave".
              How do I become an employer if I don't like being an employee?
              It's like someone said that the slave can only dream about being slaveowner because he doesn't know about any social system other than the slavery-based system.
              I thought about cooperatives, UBI, but the picture is not clear yet for me.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, anon, it's called a violent overthrow of the system.
                That are the fear of it is the only thing that made modern life tolerable.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You see, this is exactly the irony I was talking about: commies in USSR made all the citizens slaves and became slave-owners of the whole country, it was like a giant capitalistic company that spans the whole country.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        go check your mail

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ai can be hilarious tho

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and they say AI doesn't have a sense of humor

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT seething "artists" who can't ptw

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't like working, so others should be working for me for free because I am very sensitive sad person who hates working and it's all system's fault

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yer already dead inside

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Being subjected to conditions that make one terribly unhappy" is not the same as "not liking working".
        You could also swap "not wanting to be a slave" with "not liking working".

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah yeah. When communist utopia arrives you will be able to work whenever you please for how long you please, and others will make food for you just because they choose to.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, what is the conclusion then?
            One should be miserable because someone else is miserable?
            "I should starve because kids in Africa are starving" - something like that?
            And besides, you're missing the part where growing and making food gets automated. Can you imagine how much easier ploughing has become since tractors became a thing?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You should starve if you don't provide enough value to the society to exchange it for food.
              Wealth is not a zero-sum game, if you reduce costs of food production you will be able to provide more value and therefore increase total wealth of everyone.
              At some point we will reduce costs so low that work might indeed become very small part of our life.
              However we will never get there if instead of focusing on giving more to the society, we will be forcing society(the productive part) to provide for the lazy ones.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >At some point we will reduce costs so low that work might indeed become very small part of our life.
                What mindset will people have then?
                I bet it won't be "you should starve if you don't provide enough value to the society to exchange it for food", instead they will think "society gives me food because I'm part of it", they won't think in terms of earning or not earning, in terms of laziness or non-laziness, they'll think in some other terms.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"society gives me food because I'm part of it"
                Only if we can produce food without any work and we decide to go UBI route.
                However if food production will still require work that people are not willing to do on their own, there will be value in that food and these who produce it will be able to exchange it for different goods that also require non-volunteered work, Sure it might be cheap but you will still need to get someone to make that food for you, so either find someone who will provide for you or go and take your turn on some short shift in nigh-automated food factory.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"society gives me food because I'm part of it"
                Only if we can produce food without any work and we decide to go UBI route.
                However if food production will still require work that people are not willing to do on their own, there will be value in that food and these who produce it will be able to exchange it for different goods that also require non-volunteered work, Sure it might be cheap but you will still need to get someone to make that food for you, so either find someone who will provide for you or go and take your turn on some short shift in nigh-automated food factory.

                UBI should exist because it's a logical thing.

                Where do you think all the fiat money comes from? There is no "real" money and there isn't even a point in having "real" money, because money is a tool to make exchanges. How you exchange it for value and how much value you add determines what you get to eat. There was a story about a guy who managed to bargain from a pencil or a paper clip to a manor.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How does UBI being logical thing follow from money being a tool to make exchanges and not real?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are a slave who whine about freedom instead doing something about it.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly I just don't like ai art because I find it an insult to humanity
    it also promotes hyper consoomerism, fuck that too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. boomer
      then don't use it, fuck off

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ai is the natural child of man
      we do not fear our child

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    go back to your pod

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will the pod have my waifu turned into a cute robot who will accompany me and love me unconditionally?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      damn, good idea, so much cheaper than lovedolls and convenient
      thank you

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised by how many impotent deviant art types are on BOT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's just gay furries

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      powerful

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        at the end of the day, "copying" is a red herring, they don't care about copying, as evidenced by their own rampant copying
        no, what they're angry about is the fact that AI art is easy to make (for the end user at least), it allows "outsiders" to make art, which they feel cheapens the art of... art

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's it right there, if everyone is super, nobody is super

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you can see it in pictures like

          https://i.imgur.com/Gr2DGYc.jpg

          (begins with "finally, after a week of hard work") and

          https://i.imgur.com/CWj98c7.jpg

          ("i spend hours making that cake", and the repeated use of "instant" with relation to the AI cake)

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