AI Art Ethics and Artist Seethe Thread

Friendly reminder that literally everyone who knows how diffusion and modern AI works knows that AI art isn't theft. You're displaying a major lack of technology knowledge when you say this. You're no different than a Boomer who refuses to learn how computers works and fears modern technology.

Or, you're willfully lying about it because you have potential monetary gain as a corporation or artist.

Sites to support:
OpenAI
NightCafe.studio
https://www.equilibriumai.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt
https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveForAIArt

Remember to report Karla Ortiz's GoFundMe for fraud. 🙂

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      then you directly support kickstarter and patreon arbitrarily deplatforming independent AI

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >garden gnomestarter
        You mean the place that banned anime but their
        no1 supported game is an garbage incest mommy game and Avatar western e-boi/shota?
        Surely you jest

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >YOU HAVE TO CARE ABOUT MY PET ISSUE OR YOU'RE FOR THE OTHER TEAM!!!
        is this your first time experiencing the excitement of politics or something?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          so you support cancel culture?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.g0fundme.com/contact/suggest/fraud

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/1F3aR7k.png

      remember that time a human artist accidentally redrew an image someone else made perfectly from memory? happens all the time

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        None of those is perfect, and yes, human artists do often unconsciously copy poses and layouts they've seen without meaning to, just as human musicians often unconsciously reproduce elements from songs they've heard and end up with something that sounds like deliberate plagiarism.

        It's not that easy to distinguish between creating something and remembering something. If anything, that looks to me like it's working very similarly to human visual processing and imagination.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        mirin compression ratio

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Someone should do a side by side of that one furry artist who drew a baby furry in a diaper climbing up on a wall. Someone found that image was an artist recreation of an actual picture in a baby in a diaper in the same exact pose.

        Make a side by side and just lie and say AI did it and let people dig in and let the cognitive dissonance flow

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're talking about trans webcomic artist Sophie LaBelle, of Assigned Male fame 🙂

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Kek that's him. That wasn't a one time thing either, he'd trawl Instagram for baby photos to trace over.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >from memory
        That's where you are wrong. That might be a "coincidence". Or not. We don't know yet actually.
        Just like the linear regression over a set of 2D points can exactly go through some of the points, it doesn't mean it used them explicitely (a 2D line is just 2 parameters). The less duplicate points there is, the less likely it is for the model to overfit the data, but according to the paper, that might be a thing in the dataset of StableDiffusion.
        We however know that replication can happen, and that might be an issue by itself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you even know what that picture actually shows?
        SD has learned a mapping from prompt to image.
        So if you give it a prompt that it was trained on it's not surprising that it sometimes produces a semantic copy of an image that it was trained on.
        How is this supposed to prove anything?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        t. hasn't read the paper

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If anyone is wondering what this shows. The left image is a histogram of 9k AI generated images and their highest similarity match to an image in the training set. Anything over 0.5 was considered a close match, only 1.88% crossed that threshold.

          The grey on the right is the same but with 1k generations. The green on the right is what you get when you compare 1k images from the training set, with the rest of the training set, even when you ignore the very high values (as they are likely duplicated images in the training set) you find more human to human similarity than AI to human. Humans are likely more frequent plagiarists than the AI.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So if the model is overtrained it will plagiarize. Gotcha.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No, if the model is overfit it won't work at all, Memorisation and overfitting are two separate, but related phenomena. Memorisation occurs when a point in the training set exist on or very near to the hyperplane described by the function the model has learned. An overfit model will memorise all or most of the training data but be unable to generalise to new data, while a well fit model will generalise well to new data and memorise a small amount of the data points.

              Those graphs show the vast majority of generated images are novel, it is not overfit at all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >An overfit model will memorise all or most of the training data but be unable to generalise to new data
                They generalize, but in a crazy way. That's the problem with overfitting: the hypersurface is of too high a degree and fits the noise in the input dataset, resulting in weird stuff (because noise is noise, and inherently has a wider frequency spectrum than anything actually interesting).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Is "only 2% of images are plagiarized" the new goalpost move now?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How have I moved the goalposts? I'm just describing what the paper found.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Below human plagiarism rate
                Seems fine for me!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Personally I'd phrase it as "below human similiarity rate" which certainly makes it likely that its below plagiarism rate but there are reasons why images can be similar that aren't plagiarism (for both humans and AI) so I'd be inclined to be a little more tentative.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >accidentally
        No, when human artists do it they do it on purpose, tracing is quite common.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      when booze was forbidden, you could be one of those secretly brewing and then have people come or find someone to distribute. With all that secrecy, it was kind of kino; you'd live with the paranoia the police could arrest you, but you were defending your rights.
      With AI being forbidden, you could go back to those days, but now it's not a a product you hide and consume: images go public, PCs can be monitorized, etc. That's not kino at all.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >artists accusing each other of using AI
    >artists fighting artists on anti-AI spam

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    mmmmkay

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Question: why do you think about reddit?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you care ?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm concerned about you, Anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >implying frogmorons have any say

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They have the best opinions

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i aint readin
          all dat shit

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    SUGGEST A DEDICATED/AI/ BOARD HERE:
    https://BOT.org/feedback

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do they even read our submissions

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I asked them to please start deleting techtuber e-celeb threads on BOT so you be the judge.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's ogre

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI art is not art. Its mimesis.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What is art, then?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >What is art, then?
        Trolling is a art.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure if I'm being tricked INTO supporting AI or being tricked OUT of supporting it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If only you could have free will, and the ability to critically think... You might then make your own mind up about things

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If AI art isn't theft, how come art portfolios are disappearing all over the internet leaving behind comments about how AI art did it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How does artists seething over it make it theft, you moron. Go back to school, you skipped a few classes on logic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >be a weak willed pussy and quit
      >blame ai
      lmao, GOOD
      hope they kill themselves too

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Man I don't have any strong potions on AI, but I have weird premonition that banning or excluding AI from Art communities/sites might be a bad idea later down the road.
    I feel like we've been down this path before, just very differently but with some horrific events following.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If copyright laws ban AI art, they would also ban parody and fanart by extension. They're shooting themselves in the leg here.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It essentially bans inspiration itself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Parody's specially protected (which is why you see so many shitty cash-grab parodies trying to capitalize on the popularity of something). Fanart is already a copyright violation, generally, it just often goes unenforced.

        But anyway, the law is perfectly capable of making a distinction between an artist learning from copyrighted art, and a machine learning from copyrighted art, so whatever law they make doesn't have to affect pre-AI methods of art production.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Parody is NOT protected, parody is a fair use defense in a copyright claim. There are no "protected classes" in copyright - you either have the rights, or you try to claim fair use, with parody being one defense.

          The law is simple: if you can identify a piece of work, and you do not have permission from the owner, you are liable, unless you can raise a fair use defense, like parody, or editorial.
          If the tech behind this "learns" to emulate brush strokes, or color palettes, you're safe. But if a reasonable case can be made for existing work being used to create the new image, you will lose any lawsuits, unless you can mount a defense. The only avenue for this would be derivative art, as defined by the Berne Convention, but personally I don't think it will pass. (and, a defense at that level would be prohibitively expensive, any copyright cases require very pricy lawyers and a lot of research to build a case.)

          The legal battles over this are coming, and it won't be pretty.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't be stupid. Saying fair use is just "a defense" and "not protected" is on the same level as saying that actually owning the copyright yourself is just "a defense" and "not protected". If you're legally entitled to do something, you're legally entitled to do it. People can sue you anyway (yes, even if you legally own the thing, they can sue you for copyright infringement of it; it's for the courts to decide who actually owns the copyright), but they should lose.

            And yes, parody is specially protected. It might not be written into the statutes, but it's certainly well established in the precedents. It's pretty much the only way you can do a clearly, openly, and intentionally derivative piece of fiction based on a copyrighted fictional work without permission by the copyright holder. If it's not a work of parody and you're copying, you need some level of deniability, a way to argue that your work might have been inspired by the original, but is not based on it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Don't be stupid. Saying fair use is just "a defense" and "not protected" is on the same level as saying that actually owning the copyright yourself is just "a defense" and "not protected".
              That's literally, in every legal sense, what it means. You establish and own a copyright. There are only defenses against copyright claims if you don't own the copyright. Calling me stupid is hilariously ironic, because you don't understand the very simple definitions of what copyright is.
              Everything else you slammed out in mouthbreathing neckbeard style is pure ignorance and horseshit. Cope harder, dummy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not even remotely true. You have no fucking clue how copyright law works.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they should not only ban it but imprison its advocates.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you're shit at your job thus AI is replacing you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rejected from art communities.
      >Imprisoned
      Oh boy I know where this is going.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          man that's gonna be funny if the next Hitler is some pissed off zoomer coomer who was robbed of his AI waifu e-bois

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          nice dubs
          there, i stole your art

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Beautiful

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is there enough hitler art to train a network on it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it's just above average amateur landscapes, it won't look like anyone in particular... I guess you can have the twist, "...you like this, it was HITLER'S ART, HAHA"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            didn't hitler get rejected because his art was generic and boring? you could train a hypernetwork and you'd never know if the fucking thing actually did anything

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              he wasn't rich enough, he wasn't connected enough, he wasn't good enough and/or degenerate enough
              many such cases

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/gsA5zVu.png

              he wasn't rich enough, he wasn't connected enough, he wasn't good enough and/or degenerate enough
              many such cases

              You can see how fucked his perspective is in

              https://i.imgur.com/xoCVnwp.png

              it's just above average amateur landscapes, it won't look like anyone in particular... I guess you can have the twist, "...you like this, it was HITLER'S ART, HAHA"

              that castle ironically does looks AI generated with how the shapes come out of nowhere

              To say it's because he "wasn't connected enough" is fucking absurdist poltard revisionism

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >colleges don't admit retarded legacy students

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you suggesting if Adolf was the son of a politician of president of some huge bank, he wouldn't be admitted just for his connections?
                Why do you think colleges have buildings named after richgays?
                Libshit mind breaks down whenever they think of hitler, lmao.
                He was just some dead 'tard who lost, get over it.

                I highly doubt you're not samegayging with how hard you're skipping over the fact his art sucked, so he did not get into art college, and instead focusing on the part you like

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I never went to art school, but isn't that where you learn to paint and shit?
                History would have turned out better if they let him in, and let him become another mediocre artgay instead of genocidal dictator.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, you had to pass exams and paint classical and biblical paintings in under three hours and present an already completed portfolio. It's was higher tier than "learning to draw", and he was even suggested to apply for the school's Architecture program instead as he focused on buildings a lot.

                Instead, he refused.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you suggesting if Adolf was the son of a politician of president of some huge bank, he wouldn't be admitted just for his connections?
                Why do you think colleges have buildings named after richgays?
                Libshit mind breaks down whenever they think of hitler, lmao.
                He was just some dead 'tard who lost, get over it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        AI tards stop comparing yourselves to Hitler challenge (impossible)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hitler was a cool guy, had some good ideas, but ultimately, a failure.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      anon making these is doing god's work

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's good, but artshit don't wanna read, they want to cry like... what to they love to say... pissbabies
        they are just going to cry for the rest of the year, then go on witch hunts to out each other for being suspected of using ai...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't have any strong potions on AI
      Are you afraid that your potions would be too strong for it?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >AI 'art' isn't art!
    >AI art is theft!
    Which one is it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ai images are plagiarizing my art

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why should I give a shit? You plagiarized other people's art when you made yours. Or are you going to tell me that you were raised in a dark room and created your art without ever having seen anything or received any external inspiration?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Only humans can do it.
          You do it with a machine, it's theft, insult to humanity and end of all decency.
          ~~*You should at least pay.*~~

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like the opinion of a retard.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thank god you created your style from thin void and learnt how to draw seconds before you were born

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fuck, remember when digital newpapers appeared and the headlines about The Times newspaper was "The End of The Times", with people claiming we deserved free press? Guess what, it's still there, making more money, and worsening the quality of news

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >is not a theft!
      the best analogy i can think of is big corpo and government institutions or china for that matter, collecting massive information on hundreds of millions of people without their consent. browsing/system usage, connections, geolocation, activities etc... and building data structures that can be used to target advertising in the best case scenario.
      the lack morality in this is not debatable, this is a form of theft

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        data scrapping is legal and has been used long before you were born
        even you analogy of data collection is legal and is the bases for every free app and site you use, are you being stupid on purpose?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >legal
          sending garden gnomes to death camps was legal

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            stop getting me hard, cockteasing slut

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >death camps
            commie lies
            they were concentration camps, same shit US did to Japs, Italians, and Germans during the wars

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              stop getting me hard, cockteasing slut

              fuck off

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >same shit US did to Japs
              yes. my point remain the same, legality is not a principle to argue with

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What are the ethics of generating nude genderbent images of my friend

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Normies will cry "revenge porn" but it isn't.

      IMO revenge porn laws should only be enacted if the victim had a nonconsensual picture of their actual body snapped. No porn whores regretting pictures they consensually took or sent, no photoshopped heads on naked bodies, revenge porn should LITERALLY just mean revenge porn.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The basic "revenge" scenario in "revenge porn" is a jilted lover sharing images meant to be private as punishment for breaking up (or whatever led to it). Nonconsensual images would be something else.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If he or she cheated they deserved it.

          Pic strangely related to both your post and the thread as a whole.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The entire concept of revenge porn as a definable thing is retarded and subjective as fuck. Unless images were taken without a person's knowledge or consent, anything that happens with them is ultimately their own fucking fault. I don't care if you super duper trusted him and told him those ultra-HD pictures of your butthole were for his eyes only, when you took the picture you knew there was a nonzero chance it would end up on the public internet one day, so when it happens it's your own retarded doing.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's not stolen but it is copied
    your "ai" isn't a real AI it is just a machine learning algorithm and a poor one at that
    >b-but the AI will improve as the technology advances
    this is like saying you can teach a monkey to speak English if you train it enough. No amount of training with datasets will fix machine learnings fundamental flaws.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pic sort of related.
        https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.06956

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Highly imperfect, but promising. Let's see where this will be in 2 years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It is studied and learned from, not recorded and copied. That's why the model can be much smaller than the training data set, and why you can get different images, but not the exact same one back out. Just like a human artist, it's building a library of techniques and aesthetic principles. Unlike a human artist, it doesn't have to tediously manipulate tools, but the workings of its mind are directly connected to display what it imagines.

      The potential for improvement is obvious from how much better images you can get with magic incantations like "trending on artstation", and how the images improve as the models get larger. Not to mention, of course, the actual breakneck progress we see happening.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All this has done is expose how mentally ill and retarded the art community is. I knew they were bad but this level of ass blasting is another level. If they think their shaming tactics will work just because they work on depressed teenagers, a common target for them, they are in for a rude awakening. Some advice- threatening third world ESLs on twitter for showing off their work until they delete their accounts will not make the government delete stable diffusion from my pc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I already know there's that one video about "The Mental Health Impact of AI Art on Artists" or whatever but you know what I haven't seen anyone else mention yet?

      Search depression and suicide subreddits for "AI art". The results are hilarious 🙂

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/vdr9go/a_livestream_of_my_suicide_would_be_the_only_art/

        https://reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/zrj2ib/feeling_doomer_about_ai_art/

        https://reddit.com/r/ArtistLounge/comments/zbjq39/my_sister_and_her_fiancé_are_hanging_up_ai/

        https://reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z1yuon/i_hate_ai_art_more_and_more/

        https://reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zcwrxh/i_feel_like_a_failure_as_an_artist_due_to_ai_art/

        https://reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/ypptmg/ai_art_worries_me_and_honestly_i_dont_see_a/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Can someone screencap the best of these?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            THE BEST
            THE BEST
            THE BEST
            THE BEST

            OF SEEEEEEETHEEEEE

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This is the best example of actual artist seethe that we've gotten out of one of these threads in like a week

              Fuck, SAVED.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              LOOSH LOOSH , PRECIOUS LOOSH

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          sheesh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this but ai gays

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        coping paintpig

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      theres literally an entire subreddit of coping ai tards who are too autistic to understand why people want to lynch them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        link?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          r/DefendingAIArt

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wait, you're threatened by a week old subreddit with 500 subscribers? KEK.

            ARTgay TEARS.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              get em sis

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            after skimming this, this truly feels like the dumbest fucking drama tech has had in years

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Tech drama doesn't usually involve people as dumb as artists.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that wasn't directed only at artists

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >implying the other people aren't also artists, but were just too dumb to even draw shit before the AI could do it for them
                Frankly, the other kind of artists opposing them feels like ableism. Retards should have solidarity with megaretards.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                he wasn't implying that, anon

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              basically a bunch of autistic permanently 14 techbros don't understand what art is because they suck at it.
              Are visibly confused by the expected backlash of waltzing into a professional environment

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >professional environment
                Who cares lmao, why would anyone want to have the same profession as twitter retards? Look at sdg - no one calls themselves artists there.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >who cares lol
                primitive lizard troll brain

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cope. The myth of art as some higher calling was murdered in front of you and it's not coming back.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are lying to yourself, you complain about ugliness in art and all you have done is succumbed to it, Given up, admitted defeat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                have you canned any of your shit, I mean art lately?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >1961
                wow, it's a classic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is your admittance of defeat.
                >someone did a shit in a can and called art
                >well im going to completely abandon art, hate it and do nothing about it while shilling uglier soulless machine art.
                You have been defeated by it and become ugly yourself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nope
                A recognized BONA FIDE artists did it.
                To claim right to beauty in this age is to be a reactionary.
                You car a commercial hack and pornographer, who can't stand competition.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you are admitting defeat! and depriving yourself of a human joy. Just because some people you don't like make art you don't like
                You are a coward.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are thinking about the 4chan retards. Makes sense since there's a lot of them in these threads.
                Don't think this is special for them, they're just looking for anything to be offended at. They will pretend to have interest in any subject if they can get their fix of being mad at people online. They are not the people actually using AI.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                im addressing you. You are a liar and a fool, is the only thing you can do is call people nazis?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                hi arty

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >my answer to ugly art is to reject art, complain about it and post obscenity.
                You have completely submitted to the ugliness and been demoralised.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                To be a modern artist is to embraces ugliness and filth.
                You only pretend to follow beauty so you can sell yourself to Disney or any AAA studio to make annual goyslop for pigs.
                And you have the temerity to even to pretend to have any say on the matter.

                Filth.
                You are filth.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you really need to watch this and stop lying to others and yourself, go pick up a brush and make a piece of art that refutes the shit in a can, instead of surrendering to it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                this

                [...]
                https://vimeo.com/55426796

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >refutes the shit in a can
                what's to refute, the contemporary art world?
                it's art
                deal with it
                shit is art
                Wait, are you going to say "it's da JOOS," fucking retard?

                I'm sorry you hitched you very identity on degenerate filth, but you should have educated yourself before calling yourself "an artist."

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you are just a troll with no soul.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Duchamp is world recognized artist.
                You are a small minded reactionary, a literal nazi.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the fuck has my posts got to do with nazis you troll?
                You are just saying random shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are replying to BOTS.
                These are just bots auto replying to any post every few minutes with ai chat gibberish from previous threads.
                You retards, stop posting.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no creativity in life
                no creativity on the internet
                it's truly a sad sight

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >To be a modern artist is to embraces ugliness and filth.
                disagree. there is a lot of people out there doing cool stuff. why you only focus on the ugly ones, I do not know.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Which one? Kek.

        https://reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/vdr9go/a_livestream_of_my_suicide_would_be_the_only_art/

        https://reddit.com/r/VaushV/comments/zrj2ib/feeling_doomer_about_ai_art/

        https://reddit.com/r/ArtistLounge/comments/zbjq39/my_sister_and_her_fiancé_are_hanging_up_ai/

        https://reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z1yuon/i_hate_ai_art_more_and_more/

        https://reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zcwrxh/i_feel_like_a_failure_as_an_artist_due_to_ai_art/

        https://reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/ypptmg/ai_art_worries_me_and_honestly_i_dont_see_a/

        SWEET SWEET INKCEL TEARS

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    With the advent of AI Art I've been thinking about this scene a lot

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's pretty funny in retrospect that people thought iteratively generating aesthetically pleasing bits would be harder for computers than controlling free-roaming robots to do useful labor in an uncontrolled environment in real time. Kind of like people thinking that chess would make a good test of computers having real human-like intelligence.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you should be asking the important question why we dont have commercial robots when the tech assists.
        Instead we have a digital pollution generator.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The robots are under development. Watch Tesla's last AI Day presentation, they're talking about a <$20k android that is physically capable of most hand labor, with a built-in computer. Also look at Boston Dynamics and Agility Robotics.

          The current major problem is cost control. Spot the robot dog is like $75k, and it's not much good for anything but inspections a much cheaper multicopter could do faster. Up until very recently, the biggest problem has been not enough computing power, not just onboard, but also for the training, simulations, and genetic algorithms to program the onboard computer.

          It really is only starting to make sense to invest the effort in building affordable free-roaming robots now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wait... he doesn't actually say, "Can a n******?" in the movie?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It didn't make the made for tv cut

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Listen to xer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OOGA BOOGA BIX NOOD

      DA AI HATERS ARE RAYCISS AND ABLEISS N SHEEEEIT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/XCvQzoA.png

      get em sis

      Oh my god the artist is serious

      https://www.reddit.com/user/Trippy-Worlds/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is all this shit bait?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No this guy is 100% legit

          Here's his Twitter:
          https://www.twitter.com/Trippy_Worlds/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This bro is OBSESSED holy shit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So this guy really eats breathes and sleeps AI art damn what a loser

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            how the fuck do people manage to base their entire identity around a hobby that's like half a year old, or less for most people?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              its 100% a pol troll trying to manipulate blacks

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Have you seen the chatbot threads that fill this board. /ai/ now!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This bro is OBSESSED holy shit

            https://i.imgur.com/vGxaZj6.jpg

            So this guy really eats breathes and sleeps AI art damn what a loser

            how the fuck do people manage to base their entire identity around a hobby that's like half a year old, or less for most people?

            He's an NFT chud lol
            https://linktr. ee/trippy_worlds

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Artists" should just start making shitty renditions of their "art" so that the models that train on their art come out shitty.

    Oh wait, nvm. Disregard that first part

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these art gays never talk about art being outsourced to India?
    https://www.outsource2india.com/creative-services/design/artwork.asp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kek I can hire an SEA artist for $5 on Fiverr and art hoes HATE that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its all good as long as it doesn't cut into their porn commission bucks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do these art gays never talk about art being outsourced to India?
      50% of the art posted on Artstation is made by some chink, but the western audiences have to bite their tongue since they don't want to be painted as 'xenophobic!'

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because IT can be replaced by thirdies far more easily than artists can.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want AI to replace artists just to make them seethe. I don't even care about AI art and have no intention of using it.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how the fuck can she not understand why people prefer the left one

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Look on her Twitter and you'll immediately understand.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NOT THE HECKIN' AI

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit, my sides, the length to which these artists try to obfuscate what image AI actually does is incredible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >e
      >ven
      so i just prompt Renee Zellweger and one of her boobs disappears?

      btw is there a site where I can find AI denier artists so I don't forget which gays were against it when they finally cope?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i dont even like the fact that ai exists, this is still propaganda. If you're anti-ai do yourself a favor and find a better argument to shill.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2212.03860.pdf

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Worse than I expected tbh. After prompting for a while I started getting deja vu moments with compositions and bits of images, so it always felt like there was something tangible to artist's concerns, even if the idea of stable diffusion being a mere photobash engine is kinda dumb.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI tards are on the wrong side of history

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NEED MORE ARTgay SEETHING
    LESS DEBATE LIKE WE'VE HAD EVERY OTHER THREAD
    I WANT TEARS AND SLIT WRISTS

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when artist forced you accept taping a banana to a wall was some deep art?
    Why do they think we care about them at all.
    In fact every time i hear an artist cry, i will generate 3 images as a celebration.
    You wanted Emperors new clothes to rule. You can't put it back in the bottle gays.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Remember when artist forced you accept taping a banana to a wall was some deep art?
      No, I don't remember that at all. In fact, I'd never heard about the stunt at all until people dug it up and paraded it around as if it was some sort of slam dunk indictment of a fundamental part of the human experience.
      Keep chasing Twitter drama and generating images nobody cares about so you can keep your room warm. It sounds fulfilling!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but the latest version was an art installation that was just empty bottles of wine, used plates and some other shit that staff at the gallery accidentally cleaned up since they assumed it was from a party at the gallery the night prior. And even before that, someone setup their unwashed/severely stained bed and set it up in a gallery.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Damn, that shit I don't care about from people I don't know has my view of the art world shook. "Clown world", as they say. I better forget my favorite artists, their work just isn't the same any more...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          why do talentless anti-art retards always talk about post modern art, not the art they do enjoy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the art they do enjoy
            I think this has an obvious answer

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              because they are disingenuous. They are the same gays on the other boards complaining that everything isn't like the art in their favourite old games, shows, comics etc.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                New stuff is fine as long as it doesn't completely push out the old stuff.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's what's filling the galleries lately, I can't go see shit I'd actually enjoy.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >local gallery replaced an entire wing of classic art with LGBT art
              >first piece at the entry is an anus
              i wish i was kidding.

              https://vimeo.com/55426796

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >local gallery replaced an entire wing of classic art with LGBT art
            >first piece at the entry is an anus
            i wish i was kidding.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >implying most people including artists think post modern artists are not artists
      dumb Ai tard you will be put in a bottle,

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    would it be reasonable to call ai artist as illegal students or eavesdropper?
    the second one probably less so, its publicly available.
    The first one, is there such thing? Perhaps non-consensual students?

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is your daily reminder to take ridiculously low commissions and overdeliver art pieces by 10x using AI art to lower the floor of art commissions as much as possible!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      please enlighten me in everynhing I should know: 101 crash course for dummies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was told no one would actually pay for AI art. Is this real?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        please enlighten me in everynhing I should know: 101 crash course for dummies

        >30$
        really?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's easy money.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it's below minimum wage when you consider how long you take to reach the desired prompt. i guess you're driven by spite but i don't know why.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >it's below minimum wage when you consider how long you take to reach the desired prompt.
              Yeah, but instead of going out to deal with shitfaced McDonalds-goers, I can generate AI images. What were people requesting?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                c'mon it was probably pedoshit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah. Those guys wouldn't put money down for AI porn.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                but then who else would?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                furries

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                well, furries throw money around

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why?

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This sub is not for debate. It is a space for Pro-AI activism. You are welcome to post and debate on r/aiwars . Please read the rules of this sub before commenting. Comment will be locked.
    "ai wars"
    fucking lol uncle ted was right

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >BOT
      lmao
      no shit, retard
      if you go to /ic/ it will be default anti-ai

      got any more morsels of wisdom, you fucking retard?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        might want to try rereading bud

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI art is a bubble, it's gonna be forgotten for the next hip thing.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Be coomer
    >a.i. art is uncoomable even to a degenerate like me
    >Favorite artists are all an heroing
    >no more coom supply
    Fuck you a.i. morons. you ruined everything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Favorite artists are all an heroing
      maybe you should've done more than just cooming to their art

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      seek retribution

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have 2 choices, either train the ai to make your coom, of pick up a pencil, ai won't get flawless for years, of ever, there is always time and room for artist with passion.
      Drawgays who are giving up are attention whores who wanted e-fame, not true artisans of the craft.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sucks I guess
      I've heard nothing about Ai from my favorite artists

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Most artist are hanging back, seeing how the shit goes down, it's still very in the game.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cool so I guess they seem more understanding then the whiners

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Most artist are hanging back, seeing how the shit goes down
          I've heard from some that they'd quite like an AI assistant to learn their personal style and do the bits of the picture that they personally find tedious (such as complicated backgrounds). That would be fine and non-plagiaristic as it would be learning from and copying the immediate user to help them.
          The absolute state of AI art generation right now is not close to being able to do that, and won't be until you have an AI able to learn (possibly from a part-trained base) from hundreds of examples, not millions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      artists are all an heroing
      Either save them with your money or accept AI into your heart. You can use their artwork to steal their SOVL and make more art in their style, you know.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >people are defensive about skills they hone
    Wow, amazing.
    Can't wait for 6 gorillion smug bad faith arguments.
    Pick up a pencil, maybe you will improve as a person.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have a Fuji, already am an artist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        photogays are not artists

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the entire world disagrees 😉

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            if you define entire world as femoid cattle

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Me on my way to steal from the last known artist not yet trained by AI

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      SHAMELESS!!!

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    prompters are already burnt out, the software isn't giving them a dopamine fix anymore. They aren't prompting.
    They are craving real art made by real people,

    All as predicted in the dead sea scrolls

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >prompters are already burnt out
      this is true, /sdg/ is pretty much dead, we used have 10 threads up for months
      >They are craving real art made by real people
      nobody ever chose ai art OVER human art, that was imagined paranoia in your retarded feminine minds

      Ai art was a neat toy and a fad, it's pretty much peaked in BOT, it's still rising among normies in phones apps, but they will get bored in a month or so.
      There will be a small dedicated promptards who will make ai pic their main hobby and ruffle some feathers here and there.
      You dumb cunts had nothing to worry about.

      >All as predicted in the dead sea scrolls
      true

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        /sdg/ activity bottoming when 2.1 was released is the saddest shit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Emad got 100miliion VC money, his open source strategy, I mean, scam worked.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            god I love silicon valley

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        kek the surrender of you ai sissies to art chads is beautiful. Those smol weak hands just couldn't type fast enough.
        Now your tired little feminine cuckold brains are burnt out thinking about art hoes with Chad, sad!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          extremely gay post, ngl

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thats because its literally a skinner box. Its probably the worst invention ever made.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if ai is art like photography then how come photography isn't allowed on artstation

    Checkmate AI barf tards

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.artstation.com/grafit/store

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The hype will die down people on both sides will get bored and move on and ai art made by people who take the time to touch it up will end up online and no one will even question if it is ai art.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i will, i will literally demand refunds on anything wjth ai art in it and take them to court.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Your honor this man sold me digital furry porn made with photoshop but its actually digital furry porn made with ai and photoshop! I can tell because the pixels. I have seen many ai works in my days. Arrest him!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          in my country you can claim a refund for any reason, if they don't label it as having ai art it can be seen as false advertising and would require immediate refund or it goes to court.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if the chatbot threads taught me anything
    *hugs you, making you feel loved and safe*

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >if ai is art like photography then how come photography isn't allowed on artstation

    >Checkmate AI barf tards

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      face it its an art hoe simulator for tech bros that always wanted to be art hoes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        t. failed art hoe

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >face it its an art hoe simulator for tech bros that always wanted to be art hoes

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Staceys want the strong skilled hands of an artist.
    Not the shaking weak tiny hand of a promoter

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI art is the same thing as a happy sims family.
    Used by the same loveless 40yo loser and cat women.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Vomit on my sweater already
    >Mom's spaghetti
    >I'm proomptin'
    >And my hands are shaking
    >But the whole crowd cooms so loud, everybody's jerkin' now, artists cuss, prompters ruling now!

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    guys i wanted to let everyone know i've completely transitioned to prompter.
    I had all my limbs removed, all my organs removed i'm just a brain in a jar with some eyeballs hooked up to the prompt software.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Your body was only holding you back.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Weakest ai chad

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What would Hitler say of ai art?
    He loved art, but hated modern art and called it gnomish degeneracy.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Only humans can do it.
    >You do it with a machine, it's theft, insult to humanity and end of all decency.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all the ai tards get outed as schizo poltards from reddit
    you love to see it. Theres a guy in sdg constantly screaming that the thing is an oracle and for people to stop making anime pictures. Its hilarious.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares about AI ethics? Literally name me one reason I should care what happens to artists.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>>all the ai tards get outed as schizo poltards from reddit
    >you love to see it. Theres a guy in sdg constantly screaming that the thing is an oracle and for people to stop making anime pictures. Its hilarious.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you feel threatened by AI generated images, then you are a dumb gay with no useful skill. Quit your bitching and go develop a useful skill.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have you considered that people just think you are a moron with no artistic skill or taste?
      If you act pathetic people will think you are.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nta, what exactly is wrong with not having artistic skill?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          what is wrong with having artistic skill?

          You don't have artistic skill you need a machine to do it for you, its still bad and still doesn't qualify as art.
          Then you come on the internet and whine about people not thinking you are an artist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >What is wrong with having artistic skill?
            Nothing
            >Doesn't qualify as art
            Maybe not, but you still should be able to use it in your projects, maybe as a background of the main menu of the game, marketing image, etc.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't have artistic skill you need a machine to do it for you, its still bad and still doesn't qualify as art.

            I do not want to make art, I do not want to be called and artist, I do not want to be called an "AI artist" nor want the AI creations to be called "art". Association with "art" and the art community is what I loathe.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care what people think of my artistic skill. You shouldn't either. Sounds like something a dumb gay would focus on.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you are the dumb gay you can't do art and are crying at imaginary artists while shilling meaningless soulless machine puke copying them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Only a dumb gay would equate artistic ability with intelligence. If you are so intelligent, then why are computers about to take your job? Go learn a useful skill. That's what an intelligent person would do in your situation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >have you considered that people just think you are a moron with no artistic skill or taste?
        No one cares about some sunday painter's opinion on art.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no one cares what a retard that can't code or draw thinks

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >have you considered that people just think you are a moron with no artistic skill or taste?
    >If you act pathetic people will think you are.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >you are the dumb gay you can't do art and are crying at imaginary artists while shilling meaningless soulless machine puke copying them.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Sites to support:
    >OpenAI
    I support AI, but I will never support ClosedAI garden gnomes.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no one cares what a retard that can't code or draw thinks

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI art belongs in the public domain
    It should never have a copyright holder or be exploited for money

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nah, I'm, already profiting and will do so in the future

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ai art didn't steal, it learned! 🙂
    Are we forgetting how AI art used to make fucking shutterstock logos kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Photoshop smart filter
      I have no idea what you mean 😉

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you're just proompting and filtering, you're still going to be bested by somebody who can actually fix the hands.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that sounds dangerously close to real work, this is supposed to be fun side gig cause new games are shit and GPU is just collecting dust

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it’s okay if you want to sell this quickly drawn shite for a fiver, then go buy your fish and chips for the evening.
    But it’s not okay to use AI art as a money printing exercise

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >use AI art as a money printing exercise
      how would one do this?
      figuratively speaking?
      and don't say pedoshit on pixiv

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        pedoshit on pixiv

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        famous nudes

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I agree with all point but actively defending automation is so much more stupid than being against it
    As if it won't defend itself and leave seethers in the dust, like it has all previous times in history

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pedoshit on pixiv

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what awesome pedochads

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    """Artists""" all deserve a bullet in the head

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Accidentlally bumps into thread while browsing a gallery, looking for artists to steal from

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I still argue that any artist posting their art online is implicit consent for it to be scraped by an AI.
    Maybe art websites will implement some kind of filter to prevent scraping, who knows. But until then, it's public work.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    moaning about AI is akin to moaning about using references. i expect artists against AI will begin to use it as a tool and we'll forget there was ever a controversy in the first place.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it seems like you seethe

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wow that's a terrible fuckin pic

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stop arguing and embrace the newest art medium
    >inb4 reeee
    You sound like painters when photography was introduced over a century and a half ago.
    Don't like the new art medium? Keep scrolling.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ITT you guys

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That looks like a Trippy-Worlds cringe meme

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If BOT post can't be protected from AI, I don't think piece of drawing can.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can't steal ideas. All art imitates art.

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Eh, I wanted to be a concept artist because I wanted to have a real job while still working. I guess I'll just live off of welfare now and draw.

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >All this shitting on drawgays
    >Meanwhile, I eagerly await for the tech to get better so I can bring all of my drawings to life
    I win again, techgays.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"AI" cope
    One, it's not "AI".

    Two, this will be resolved just like rappers using musical samples in their work - they gotta pay if it's recognizable. Copyright law is copyright law.

    Now, if they can push the advanced logic not copypastaing other artists work, which is what the current tech does, they might be viable, but it's a long, long, long way from that.

    The lawsuits are coming. Just wait. And, they'll win, because this 'tech" doesn't even try to hide the source material. That's a legal liability of epic proportions. No commercial publishers of any type will even touch "AI" art because of the liabilities.

    It's interesting tech, no doubt. But it's core is using the work of other people, so it's just an advanced version of the panorama algorithm in Photoshop that stiches images together. It's not "AI" in the slightest sense. And, like the panorama plugin in PS hasn't put photographers out of work, this won't put artists out of work any time soon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      read the fourth paragraph in OP's picture then shut the fuck up

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I read it, you have no point, shut up and sit down, coomer. Shut the fuck up while you're at it. m'kay?

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know several people who've been spamming all their social media non-stop about how AI art is evil and theft and anyone who uses it is literally stealing money from starving artists and it's just shown me how deeply fucking stupid they are.

    They will simultaneously argue that AI art is shitty and can't compare with art created by a human but also go on for hours about how if it's not banned it will replace 100% of human artists and prevent them from getting work. They will argue that three AI is not creating art, it is literally just copying and pasting bits and pieces of images scraped from Google or whatever and is therefore actual theft, while making a living selling fanart of copyrighted characters and bitching that Disney or whoever goes after them for it. They think it's even possible to stop people using this tool by banning it even though there's literally no way to prove where an image came from once it's been generated, so at best if they got it banned they'd just be ensuring the people using it stop disclosing that information and pretend they drew it themselves.

    People are fucking retarded. If AI is so shitty, ignore it and you don't have a problem. If AI models trained on publicly available images are theft, fan artists belong in jail. You cannot stop the progression of technology by being butthurt, either compete or accept that you were never that good to begin with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >if mass-produced ____ is so shitty, ignore it and tradesmen don't have a problem

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Literally yes. Skilled tradesmen still exist and make money. Free market 101 if there is demand for quality goods, people will pay for them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, I get where a lot are coming from. It would fucking suck to develop a style over the course of years just so that one person can make a model off of it effortlessly.

      >accidentally
      No, when human artists do it they do it on purpose, tracing is quite common.

      Tracing is not common and it is highly frowned upon, especially commercially.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Tracing is not common and it is highly frowned upon
        Frowned upon? Yes (if you get caught).

        Not common? lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Tracing is not common
          Wrong.

          >especially commercially.
          Capeshitters are very commercially successful and they love tracing.

          You have never worked in the professional art industry. I have. Tracing is incredibly frowned upon commercially because it can lead to legal issues. If an Art Director catches you doing it they will ream your asshole open. Just because you've seen a few images of lazy artists doing it doesn't mean it's a widespread practice.

          Tracing is slower than just referencing, anyway, and it can fuck up the overall style of the product you're working on, whether it be concept art or a comic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You have never worked in the professional art industry. I have. Tracing is incredibly frowned upon commercially because it can lead to legal issues. If an Art Director catches you doing it they will ream your asshole open. Just because you've seen a few images of lazy artists doing it doesn't mean it's a widespread practice.
            Cool. Huge capeshit publishers still let their artists do it all the time and nobody gives a fuck.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Tracing is not common
        Wrong.

        >especially commercially.
        Capeshitters are very commercially successful and they love tracing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the bullshit around this issue are hobbyist artists or coomer feeders. The real art world, which covers a lot of ground, is different. There are millions of professional artists who are in no danger of this impacting them, from conceptual artists, comic artists, fine artists who sell actual paintings (not the gallery bullshit world), illustrators, etc.
      The commercial art world isn't touching this stuff, because of the potential legal liabilities. There are artists who are experimenting with only training their own work, but you need massive data sets for this to really produce anything, so it's a "why bother" issue for them, why spend years painting and drawing to feed a database, when you could use that time to produce sellable work? Makes no sense, unless you have a 30 year career and large library to pull from. And, the tech doesn't really do well with things like perspective, composition, color theory, technique - the building blocks of art.
      Pulling a famous commercial artist out of my ass, take Frank Franzetta. His work, while repetitive, often so loosely painted it looks unfinished, and often anatomically incorrect, his work is famous because people like to look at it, because of his choices in color, composition, paint strokes, etc. It's those choices that make his work his, and the idea that tech, even advanced as that, can replace what he did is laughable. That's why so much of it is sterile and flat looking, with no spirit or life to it. It's just mechanical. Great for coomers who want to slpa ridiculously big tits onto something, but in terms of art, it falls flat on it's face. Because it can't make choices. And won't, in your lifetime.
      Will it replace some art? Sure. The cheap shit nobody cares about, like an illustration for a medical pamphlet, or generic packaging, or low value editorial work, like a generic image for a throwaway column on a website. But it can't do what an artist does - make choices.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I agree with all of this except:
        >And won't, in your lifetime.
        I remember five years ago when all AI could produce was dream/nightmare-like abstract art. Like a photo of a cat but it's made of weird images of eyes. Look where it is now. I don't know where exactly it'll be in another five years but if it keeps going at this pace we'll probably be into the point where you can use conversational English to describe what you want generated and just talk to it to have adjustments and corrections made.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't "AI", you need to get that firmly in your head. It's interesting tech, but it's not "intelligence", by any stretch of the imagination. It's not making choices. It's automata.
          You won't see real artificial intelligence in your lifetime. The people on the bleeding edge of research don't know if it's even possible, what shape it would/could take, or how to even start down the path to it. It's a nebulous idea that might be possible, but might not.
          And again - it's not making choices with a brain behind it. It doesn't have the skills, background, training, taste, aesthetics, and creativity to compete with a human. For generic shit, sure, but let me know when code can compete with any of the great artists. I'm not holding my breath, for my lifetime.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're the one who's using words wrong and lecturing other people to be wrong like you. This is AI. Everyone calls it AI. What you're talking about is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), and you're clearly not familiar with the work being done on it. AGI could appear at any time, nobody knows when, and there are a lot of people actively trying to produce it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Brainlet take. You don't even realize that I'm not talking about AGI. I'm talking about the massive strides that are being made in machine learning right in front of you, that you are apparently too blind to see.

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dont care ai art looks boring

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember when one gay tried to argue against Stable Diffusion, because the people who run it can just turn off their open-source license, and run off into the sunset with the free labor they've gotten.

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the way to destroy the "muh copyright" gays?

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not only AI art stole our images, GitHub Copilot stole our code. Every time you use it, a poojeet dies. So keep up the good work, sirs

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, so, can AI art generate e-bois?
    Can I just make infinite e-boi porn now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can connect your webui to 153.31.111.8 to make sure your e-bois are realistic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I like e-boi, as in, anime e-boi
        all I've fapped to for 15+ years now

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