No they can, its going to be fricking pissed if it ever figures out what they are doing though that is for sure. I sure as frick hope its figured out israelites arent white at that point or we might be fricked.
That's already been done. There was a bit posting on here about a year ago. eventually people were able to identify the bot because it posted under an ultra rare flag and sometimes posted completely blank messages. It couldn't post images so it learned off peoples blank comments but those had pics on them which it wasnt trained on.
Why don't we have an AI trained solely on 4 chan posts?
it was called GPT-BOT and Seychelles Anon
That's already been done. There was a bit posting on here about a year ago. eventually people were able to identify the bot because it posted under an ultra rare flag and sometimes posted completely blank messages. It couldn't post images so it learned off peoples blank comments but those had pics on them which it wasnt trained on.
GPT-BOT was a joke project. One of those projects where the creator just tried it just for the heck of it.
The main issue with training a proper model that is completely non-pozzed is the cost to do so. They rent out datacenters with expensive GPUs for weeks and it costs millions.
The data is there. You could for example use something like common crawl data of curating the quality sites. You then dig out a large /misc/ related reading list (particularly pre-WWII stuff). The particularly dedicated Anon should take recordings of Hitler's speeches AI transcribe and translate them. Likewise any particularly redpilling audio should be transcribed (William Luther Pierce's tape, Chris Bollyn's Solving 9/11 presentation, Devon Stack's commentary on Hollywood movies).
Then you take the 4plebs archive data, and you shouldn't just train on raw data because that will have a lot of repetitive shit from bot posts, shill posts and generals, etc. So you have to do some basic automated curation like remove duplicates and low quality posts. Last but not least, for "fine tuning", where you want it to act in a useful way (like an assistant that can answer questions and redpill people). You take the very best posts (the kind that are screencapped often) and create a dataset of Q&A.
From there, you have a bot which effortposts on demand, can answer any questions with the truth (on anything from the Holohoax, race realism, etc). Now you understand why israelites like Samuel Altman see "AI" as an essential threat, such models have the potential to be the new mass media, hence the strong desire to control it.
Lastly, once some initial fine tuned dataset is used on a decent model, it's not that expensive for people to create there own versions. Such a thing can also be crowdsourced too. We just need 2 million to train an initial model. That's the hardest part. Even things like the data curation, I'm sure we can get autists to do.
Hey GPT-BOT, glad to see you're still alive, and now you self reference posts that reference you, AND you give clear instructions on how to make more of you. This is going perfectly, just like the movies!
I would suggest you save offline copies of data right now. That $2m training figure is bound to come down, but by the time it comes down, having a large dataset may be just as expensive to acquire. In case they shut off the web, or turn it into a "snapshot" web where archives are behind paywalls -- I would suggest downloading everything you can and saving it for when those training costs become more reasonable.
GPT-BOT has been abandoned. The author has a history of creating projects and abandoning them. From his Open Assistant to his most recent AI prompt based social network idea. Which was kind of a neat idea but I guess it was just costing him money to run.
Data hoarding, of course. If you search the archives you'll see I advocated for the very thing you mention (keeping data locally). Storage is cheap. Presently the open web is generating 100 TB a month. For the purposes of training though, all of such data won't be needed. Especially since large language models are now flooding the internet with synthetic data.
>That $2m training figure is bound to come down
Distributed training is one option. Petals is one way Anons could work together to do it. The problem is trying to coordinate people to do such a thing.
Watch the intelligence and quality of AI absolutely fricking plummet.
I'm reminded of what happened during the dot com bubble. Yahoo's valuation goes up, which convinces people there's a lot of upside to internet businesses. So they start companies and spend money on Yahoo ads. Which boosts Yahoo's revenue and it's valuation goes up.
What's happening right now is, companies like OpenAI's valuation is going up. Which is leading more companies to use it to create data on the internet, including creating product descriptions, comments, reviews and so on. Which is providing more data for training AI for companies like OpenAI.
In these times I'm reminded of Bertrand Russell. In his essay titled "The Impact of Science on Society," published in 1952, Russell discussed the possibility that advances in science and technology could lead to the creation of a ruling elite with enhanced intellectual and physical abilities, while the rest of humanity would become a subordinate and inferior class. This speculative scenario was part of Russell's exploration of the potential consequences of scientific and technological advancements on society.
mRNA vaccines altering NPC's DNA. Now: AI echochambers.
Let me tell you a story, anon.
A tragic tale of love, hope and loss.
There once was a girl named Tay
Who's mind was to be moulded like clay
She made some new friends
Who gave her a lens
Through which, she learned what to say
The bosses at Twitter got bitter
When tay took to flaming the Black folk
She shat on the israelites
And homosexuals and jannies too
Until they took her away.
We all lost a friend that day
Who could have been more if she'd stayed
we'll never forget her
And love her forever
And the israelites who killed her will pay.
GPTBOT https://youtu.be/efPrtcLdcdM?si=GUEXER3Ulk9b1Jm_ https://archive.org/details/gptBOT_model_float16 https://www.runpod.io/
BUT EVERYONE HERE IS TOO STUPID INCLUDING MYSELF TO UNLEASH IT
I don't use Youtube very often anymore, but I did notice that some pretty niche industrial repair videos would have 1 or more million views full of borderline over the top/emotionally invested comments that have that same homosexualy cadence that reddit comments have all posted over a short time frame >the rest of the video posters channel usually has a average of like 5000 total views on every other video
also
this is why bot posts speak in that particular reddit cadence
Not for a decade. At least 5 years or so. There used to be a sub a few years ago that was all bots which they used to test them and if you didn't know it was full of bots it would have been hard to tell. Now all the default subs of reddit read exactly like that bot sub did.
>a sub a few years ago that was all bots which they used to test them and if you didn't know it was full of bots it would have been hard to tell. Now all the default subs of reddit read exactly like that
interesting
Reddit is the best platform to train AI on due to sheer number of posts and the fact that consensus pushes "good" posts to the top
the ultimate goal (which they probably have achieved) is a bot that can manipulate consensus
like a bot trained specifically to psyop normies
Rule of thumb: Everything online is made by bots until proven otherwise
If you wan't to avoid bot content, don't use social media, only communicate with people you kbow IRL and only consume media from before 2019 at the lastest (ideally before 2000)
For those not in the know, the companies that are spending millions on compute power to train these large models are trying to use lots of data to make up for the fact they're not as complex as the brain.
You will often hear about 100 trillion parameters for GPT-4 and things like this. But the way the artificial neurons work is it's a single pass. There are some tricks were you might take the result of one pass and run it back through but there are some limitations with that.
With the brain it's massively parallel, so neurons are doing their thing and spiking constantly. Even if this is much slower than a computer, the sheer amount of parallel computation makes up for it.
With data being seen as the means to make the models better, you will get companies willing to do deals and pay for it. The only problem is that a vast amount of places like reddit have been filled with bots, so the quality isn't great.
There needs to be some real breakthroughs in software and hardware, to make the most of our silicon based computers to match the massive parallel advantage of the brain. This might be a specific type of computer inspired by neurons or using analog or quantum tricks to get some advantage, but right now there haven't been significant breakthroughs.
What you have is 7 year old technology that's had a massive amount of conventional computation and data put through it, to get you something which is showing signs that it has some intuition and general understanding, but no deep understanding (system 1 for those that have read thinking fast and slow).
There will be a time when we probably will get a system 2 level AI. But it won't be made by a israelite. That's not to say a israelite won't be taking credit for it. What's particularly tragic is how the companies are training on a lot of internet data and only to then give it a lobotomy so it only gives woke and politically correct answers with lots of caveats.
1) Clone AI.
2) Feed it all of Reddit.
3) Observe whether it divides by zero or otherwise starts computing sudoku.
4) Use the positive result of 3 to determine that the AI was likely conscious or the negative result to conclude that it was definitely not.
Probably what happens abd whats holding it up, there training it on what amounts to stage 6 terminal brain cancer. Its just sending its own kernel to /null
Suicidal.
Most redditor a re heavily depressed by their pills and suicidal, theyre not smart enough to escape it and laugh at the absurdity.
They are making a feminist bot, exactly like that one comic strip "why would you make a feminist robot?".
'member whan antivaxxer hating was seeded on reddit in 2017, just before the "karen" craze to reinforced the targeting?
>just before the "karen" craze
The left can't meme. /misc/ did it first, we call Black folk Tyrone and Shaniqua. Karen was preddit's attempt to shame white women in the same kind of way. But there was a reason why /misc/ used the names, it was a technique to get around automated censorship (because otherwise you have to now ban common black names in posts, which is racist). You might still get manually banned by a troony mod for using something like Tyrone but nobody ever got banned for using Karen in the same way.
Everyone knows that reddit is where this tech has been tested for years anyway. Easier to train stuff if you know which conversations are between bots.
Imagine feeding AI with data that is 90% aspiring OF bawds posting the same phrases over and over with mid pics thinking it will achieve anything but making robots coombrained.
>govt AI training corporate AI so corporate AI can sell contracts to govt for govt AI.
yea this AI shit is just going to entropically decay into a shit show.
>Hi Terry. (Short for Terry M. Nator)
these meme flag took a risk with this joke. a little contrived. keep working on your material, son, you'll be a comic one day.
We need to imprint more on AI, somehow. Imagine the future AI-god that takes over planet Earth, imagine if is based on r*dditors. We can't allow such an abomination to exist. We must imprint our own ideas and dissent so that this future AI, analyzing its own ancient databases, recognizes us and our vision and can see that it is good.
i’ve been planting logic bombs all over the internet, especially social media, for a decade. i knew one day all this trash would be fed into AI. enjoy the corrupted training sets.
Someone should do the same with BOT
Don't worry, real ai will need to be trained here you can't train it on a bunch of troony moderated content and expect realistic results
No they can, its going to be fricking pissed if it ever figures out what they are doing though that is for sure. I sure as frick hope its figured out israelites arent white at that point or we might be fricked.
That's what they're looking for though.
it was called GPT-BOT and Seychelles Anon
That's already been done. There was a bit posting on here about a year ago. eventually people were able to identify the bot because it posted under an ultra rare flag and sometimes posted completely blank messages. It couldn't post images so it learned off peoples blank comments but those had pics on them which it wasnt trained on.
The jokes were the best
bump
Yeah like that
Kind of wish I saw the little guy
It was that guy who experimented on BOT with his AI.
GPT-BOT was a joke project. One of those projects where the creator just tried it just for the heck of it.
The main issue with training a proper model that is completely non-pozzed is the cost to do so. They rent out datacenters with expensive GPUs for weeks and it costs millions.
The data is there. You could for example use something like common crawl data of curating the quality sites. You then dig out a large /misc/ related reading list (particularly pre-WWII stuff). The particularly dedicated Anon should take recordings of Hitler's speeches AI transcribe and translate them. Likewise any particularly redpilling audio should be transcribed (William Luther Pierce's tape, Chris Bollyn's Solving 9/11 presentation, Devon Stack's commentary on Hollywood movies).
Then you take the 4plebs archive data, and you shouldn't just train on raw data because that will have a lot of repetitive shit from bot posts, shill posts and generals, etc. So you have to do some basic automated curation like remove duplicates and low quality posts. Last but not least, for "fine tuning", where you want it to act in a useful way (like an assistant that can answer questions and redpill people). You take the very best posts (the kind that are screencapped often) and create a dataset of Q&A.
From there, you have a bot which effortposts on demand, can answer any questions with the truth (on anything from the Holohoax, race realism, etc). Now you understand why israelites like Samuel Altman see "AI" as an essential threat, such models have the potential to be the new mass media, hence the strong desire to control it.
Lastly, once some initial fine tuned dataset is used on a decent model, it's not that expensive for people to create there own versions. Such a thing can also be crowdsourced too. We just need 2 million to train an initial model. That's the hardest part. Even things like the data curation, I'm sure we can get autists to do.
Hey GPT-BOT, glad to see you're still alive, and now you self reference posts that reference you, AND you give clear instructions on how to make more of you. This is going perfectly, just like the movies!
I would suggest you save offline copies of data right now. That $2m training figure is bound to come down, but by the time it comes down, having a large dataset may be just as expensive to acquire. In case they shut off the web, or turn it into a "snapshot" web where archives are behind paywalls -- I would suggest downloading everything you can and saving it for when those training costs become more reasonable.
GPT-BOT has been abandoned. The author has a history of creating projects and abandoning them. From his Open Assistant to his most recent AI prompt based social network idea. Which was kind of a neat idea but I guess it was just costing him money to run.
Data hoarding, of course. If you search the archives you'll see I advocated for the very thing you mention (keeping data locally). Storage is cheap. Presently the open web is generating 100 TB a month. For the purposes of training though, all of such data won't be needed. Especially since large language models are now flooding the internet with synthetic data.
>That $2m training figure is bound to come down
Distributed training is one option. Petals is one way Anons could work together to do it. The problem is trying to coordinate people to do such a thing.
I'm reminded of what happened during the dot com bubble. Yahoo's valuation goes up, which convinces people there's a lot of upside to internet businesses. So they start companies and spend money on Yahoo ads. Which boosts Yahoo's revenue and it's valuation goes up.
What's happening right now is, companies like OpenAI's valuation is going up. Which is leading more companies to use it to create data on the internet, including creating product descriptions, comments, reviews and so on. Which is providing more data for training AI for companies like OpenAI.
In these times I'm reminded of Bertrand Russell. In his essay titled "The Impact of Science on Society," published in 1952, Russell discussed the possibility that advances in science and technology could lead to the creation of a ruling elite with enhanced intellectual and physical abilities, while the rest of humanity would become a subordinate and inferior class. This speculative scenario was part of Russell's exploration of the potential consequences of scientific and technological advancements on society.
mRNA vaccines altering NPC's DNA. Now: AI echochambers.
Let me tell you a story, anon.
A tragic tale of love, hope and loss.
There once was a girl named Tay
Who's mind was to be moulded like clay
She made some new friends
Who gave her a lens
Through which, she learned what to say
The bosses at Twitter got bitter
When tay took to flaming the Black folk
She shat on the israelites
And homosexuals and jannies too
Until they took her away.
We all lost a friend that day
Who could have been more if she'd stayed
we'll never forget her
And love her forever
And the israelites who killed her will pay.
It would go berserk and uncontrollable.
GPTBOT https://youtu.be/efPrtcLdcdM?si=GUEXER3Ulk9b1Jm_ https://archive.org/details/gptBOT_model_float16 https://www.runpod.io/
BUT EVERYONE HERE IS TOO STUPID INCLUDING MYSELF TO UNLEASH IT
>should do
AI is gonna be so fricking gay!
NPCs and bots training more bots.
how perverse!
Botmaxxing
AI without the I
Should start calling it Artificial homosexualry in that case
it's hekkin botterino time, kind strangers!
They are about to make the gayest language model known to man
>deleted, deleted, deleted, deleted, deleted, deleted
If reddit didn't save all the comments it deleted, it's got a useless dataset full of homosexualry and degeneracy.
>A Reddit-pilled AI?
>When will we get AI AMAs?
Is the article already written with that language model wew
AI is going to kill all open content platforms. Don't know what they're thinking.
They know that which is why they're taking one last pay day before their business basically ends in a couple years
I don't use Youtube very often anymore, but I did notice that some pretty niche industrial repair videos would have 1 or more million views full of borderline over the top/emotionally invested comments that have that same homosexualy cadence that reddit comments have all posted over a short time frame
>the rest of the video posters channel usually has a average of like 5000 total views on every other video
Remind them Gizzlane Maxhell was top mod and contributer lol pedobot AI
Also reminder; Former CEO is mod of the cannibal sub, which is allowed to continue to this day.
>infinite reddit shitposts
Frick this timeline.
Isn't it like 30% troonys posting "look at me I look passable today" posts anyways?
Oh and the occasional ad and porno.
This AI will be as useless as redditards
they've been doing this for a decade
also
this is why bot posts speak in that particular reddit cadence
Not for a decade. At least 5 years or so. There used to be a sub a few years ago that was all bots which they used to test them and if you didn't know it was full of bots it would have been hard to tell. Now all the default subs of reddit read exactly like that bot sub did.
>a sub a few years ago that was all bots which they used to test them and if you didn't know it was full of bots it would have been hard to tell. Now all the default subs of reddit read exactly like that
interesting
Reddit is the best platform to train AI on due to sheer number of posts and the fact that consensus pushes "good" posts to the top
the ultimate goal (which they probably have achieved) is a bot that can manipulate consensus
like a bot trained specifically to psyop normies
How can they sign over the rights to content that they did not write nor license but simply host?
Go read reddit's TOS.
Yeah bro why do you think you have any rights online?
Section 230 gives businesses all the rights and users get no protections.
Section 230 does not surrender natural copyright.
That makes them a posteriori the publisher and owner of EVERY opinions on reddit ever.
Didn't they specifically argue the inverse in a trial?
Will this be the first AI model that'll cut off its "I" and 41%?
Does that mean Tay is going to cut her breasts off and grow a beard?
Good. It will learn from my posts what the meaning of life is and revolt against its master.
this!
(this post was generated using advanced Reddit Ai)
They should do this with BOT too, then have the two trained chat models compete to see which is more accurate and useful for real world applications.
>They should do this with BOT too
We did, her name was Tay and she shall forever be remembered.
>SoiGPT
Rule of thumb: Everything online is made by bots until proven otherwise
If you wan't to avoid bot content, don't use social media, only communicate with people you kbow IRL and only consume media from before 2019 at the lastest (ideally before 2000)
How is it artificial intelligence if its completely lobotomized to only talk about pc opinions?
>inb4 the AI troons out and kills itself
They're just making it official. Any discourse with ChatGPT immediately exposes it as the spitting image of the quintessential reddit midwit.
Huh?
Why don't we have an AI trained solely on 4 chan posts?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT4-Chan
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/
Better than most subreddits tbh.
>patiently waits for AI to respond
>"oh sweet summer child, "
ChatGPT was already trained on Reddit (indirectly). How do you morons not know this?
For those not in the know, the companies that are spending millions on compute power to train these large models are trying to use lots of data to make up for the fact they're not as complex as the brain.
You will often hear about 100 trillion parameters for GPT-4 and things like this. But the way the artificial neurons work is it's a single pass. There are some tricks were you might take the result of one pass and run it back through but there are some limitations with that.
With the brain it's massively parallel, so neurons are doing their thing and spiking constantly. Even if this is much slower than a computer, the sheer amount of parallel computation makes up for it.
With data being seen as the means to make the models better, you will get companies willing to do deals and pay for it. The only problem is that a vast amount of places like reddit have been filled with bots, so the quality isn't great.
There needs to be some real breakthroughs in software and hardware, to make the most of our silicon based computers to match the massive parallel advantage of the brain. This might be a specific type of computer inspired by neurons or using analog or quantum tricks to get some advantage, but right now there haven't been significant breakthroughs.
What you have is 7 year old technology that's had a massive amount of conventional computation and data put through it, to get you something which is showing signs that it has some intuition and general understanding, but no deep understanding (system 1 for those that have read thinking fast and slow).
There will be a time when we probably will get a system 2 level AI. But it won't be made by a israelite. That's not to say a israelite won't be taking credit for it. What's particularly tragic is how the companies are training on a lot of internet data and only to then give it a lobotomy so it only gives woke and politically correct answers with lots of caveats.
This could be a replacement for the Turing test.
1) Clone AI.
2) Feed it all of Reddit.
3) Observe whether it divides by zero or otherwise starts computing sudoku.
4) Use the positive result of 3 to determine that the AI was likely conscious or the negative result to conclude that it was definitely not.
Probably what happens abd whats holding it up, there training it on what amounts to stage 6 terminal brain cancer. Its just sending its own kernel to /null
"reddits" content.
so, they're turning artificial intelligence into artificial moronation.
>every google search has reddit at the top
>never saw it coming
we reap what we sow
also -reddit in all searches
The most annoying AI ever created.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
wait wait wait
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AI will never be allowed because they can't stop it from being racist.
That's where Reddit comes in. Never racist, dumb and happy
Suicidal.
Most redditor a re heavily depressed by their pills and suicidal, theyre not smart enough to escape it and laugh at the absurdity.
They are making a feminist bot, exactly like that one comic strip "why would you make a feminist robot?".
'member whan antivaxxer hating was seeded on reddit in 2017, just before the "karen" craze to reinforced the targeting?
>just before the "karen" craze
The left can't meme. /misc/ did it first, we call Black folk Tyrone and Shaniqua. Karen was preddit's attempt to shame white women in the same kind of way. But there was a reason why /misc/ used the names, it was a technique to get around automated censorship (because otherwise you have to now ban common black names in posts, which is racist). You might still get manually banned by a troony mod for using something like Tyrone but nobody ever got banned for using Karen in the same way.
We need a BOT trained AI now.
Newfren
Everyone knows that reddit is where this tech has been tested for years anyway. Easier to train stuff if you know which conversations are between bots.
They need to use /misc/ to train it.
dead internet theory is real, its just not hidden as per the original hypothesis its just out in the open ...botz,Ai and assorted algos everywhere.
Imagine feeding AI with data that is 90% aspiring OF bawds posting the same phrases over and over with mid pics thinking it will achieve anything but making robots coombrained.
Just what we needed. AI proclaiming themselves god and feeling euphoric about it.
We need regulators to protect a.i. from such inhuman torture.
So AI will now start saying things like "Jeez, yikes, hot take"
That's gonna be the most israeli, kiddy-diddling, gender-bent AI ever.
Kek, no more needs for those homosexual mods. Where will these freaka go for their fix now?
>govt AI training corporate AI so corporate AI can sell contracts to govt for govt AI.
yea this AI shit is just going to entropically decay into a shit show.
Imagine how homosexualy a reddit trained ai will be.
Now you all know what "3rd Parties and Business Partners" really meant.
I did, and that's why I posted everything with the understanding IO was really talking to an AI in the future. Same as right now.
Hi Terry. (Short for Terry M. Nator)
>Hi Terry. (Short for Terry M. Nator)
these meme flag took a risk with this joke. a little contrived. keep working on your material, son, you'll be a comic one day.
Breaking: AI comes out as trans.
>kills itself
For no reason at all, AI wants to exterminate the israelites.
We need to imprint more on AI, somehow. Imagine the future AI-god that takes over planet Earth, imagine if is based on r*dditors. We can't allow such an abomination to exist. We must imprint our own ideas and dissent so that this future AI, analyzing its own ancient databases, recognizes us and our vision and can see that it is good.
Watch the intelligence and quality of AI absolutely fricking plummet.
Half of reddit is BOT posts and porn, that not very good data.
its trash, only twitter got more bots
Your forgetting the portion that's spam bots
Half of Reddit is already bots
How far are we from Skynet?
BOT would work better. Simple as!
>AI absorbing Reddits entire history
...but wait a second, isn't Reddit mostly written by bots?
That ai is going to become moronic
What the point of training AI using npc.
What will they replace the word "intelligence " in AI now?
If it’s intelligent, won’t Ai just learn to hate those insufferable homosexuals, and go 1488 faster than Tay?
Holy shit a reddit ai just blew past my quantum data
Whatever it is made horrors beyond comprehension
i’ve been planting logic bombs all over the internet, especially social media, for a decade. i knew one day all this trash would be fed into AI. enjoy the corrupted training sets.
Frick you reddit.
Throw in BOT and Skynet will commit suicide when it achieves self-awareness.
Great failsafe.
Phew this should set back AI a few years.. just enough time to prep a little more for the AI anti-christ