They walked out to protest pay and conditions.
Basically, the pay and conditions sucked but they had some pride in working in the industry, and then AI comes along and shits all over that pride leaving them with shit pay and conditions.
The problem all along was that the industry wasn't adequately compensating the workers, not that AI is taking jobs.
To support the Hollywood workers who do have the poor pay and conditions.
The star actors don't have poor pay and conditions. But less known actors do. And they want to do shit like put AI clauses into contracts so that studios can use an actor's face and likeness in future roles without paying for it.
So imagine if they had written that into Tom Cruise's contract for Endless Love (where he had a small role) or Samuel L Jackson after one of his early roles in the 70s. Studios would've been using AI to age them up as the actors got bigger and pumped out shit with nothing the actor could do.
The other thing they want to do is keep their streaming numbers private (likely because they are bullshit and they are misleading investors) and saying "just trust us bro", despite them being scummy fucks basically since Hollywood's inception.
There's 160,000 actors represented. Name 0.1% of them, that's just 160. Your list is just A-listers who are alive, right? The 99%+ you couldn't name or recognize are all the one-off bit parts in the show. They fly in, shoot their scenes, and fly out. They get what looks like a fat check for a few days, but that has to cover their rent until the next gig, hopefully already booked.
Think James Hong (that Chinese guy you see in everything but never leading,) but nowhere as prolific or recognizable.
It's uncannily like the low paid labour migrants that are imported causing the working class to rebel and lean right due to lack of opportunity and money across the western world.
Hilarious, I don't give a fuck.
>the low paid labour migrants that are imported causing the working class to rebel and lean right
So rich factory owners importing cheap labor caused them to vote in favor of tax cuts for rich factory owners?
Hilarious, I don't give a fuck.
If you agree that neither electoral option will solve their problem, why are they responsible?
If you are saying they wouldn't be responsible if they started killing politicians, that's pretty awesome, but also unexpectedly radical.
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Anonymous
There are far more options "across the western world" than the 2 American paries.
But even if you restrict "across the western world" to mean just the USA (as you seem to do) they still choose the option that makes a bad situation worse.
I am European and a business owner.
I see taxes on working plebs get higher and higher while my taxes get lower and lower.
I used to sympathize with wagies but now I think they are just retarded and deserve to be exploited.
The only victims are the local working class. If corporations wanted sympathy they should have thought twice about undercutting local labor with cheap, disposable immigrants.
Why do you assume that I care about corporations? Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation. Corporations are fucking cancer and should eat shit and die. The only victims are the white working class who are being ethnically cleansed.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation
You couldn't be any more wrong >regulashun bad. LET THE MAGICAL FREE MARKET FIX EVERYTHING >muh freedumbs! negative externalities? get fucked >don't like how that corporation is leveraging its dominant position? just leave your job launch your own business! good luck raising capital and competing against established competitors btw >it's a private company, they can do whatever they want! >etc.
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Strawman
>Why do you assume that I care about corporations? Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation
I mean, that's what it is popularly considered to mean.
If you are a white nationalist that's great, but that's apart from direction-brained shit.
Strawman
Tell that to the generations of right wingers before you.
Strawman
>Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation.
Spoken as a true cuck.
Sure they pretend to have other points during the elections, but once the elections are over all you get is lower taxes for corporations and lower wages for the working class cucks.
Strawman
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>Chat bot respοnse
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Why do you assume that I care about corporations? Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation
I mean, that's what it is popularly considered to mean.
If you are a white nationalist that's great, but that's apart from direction-brained shit.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Tell that to the generations of right wingers before you.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation.
Spoken as a true cuck.
Sure they pretend to have other points during the elections, but once the elections are over all you get is lower taxes for corporations and lower wages for the working class cucks.
2 months ago
Anonymous
That's just how liberal democracy works.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Interesting how those replying to this comment have such a stereotypical view of “the right”, even though “the left” is very pro-corp.
>The problem all along was that the industry wasn't adequately compensating the workers
They're not really workers, they don't produce or maintain anything with concrete use value. Also, it's hard to feel bad for them when you look at the amount of garbage hollywood has been pumping out in the last decade.
Actor's specifically care about their total annual income.
It's really hard to line up enough projects that pay at a consistent standard. Income is pretty variable.
I think its why so many actors keep trying to work out side gigs like selling vodka or phones or whatever... its a more consistent pay check.
So I think they pretty much all want to protest to up the average paycheck to compensate for how hard it is to find gigs.
Which is why these protests and arguments will happen over and over and over. Actor's don't work "full time" and production companies cast and hire people on sporadic and variable time frames. So there will never be a true "career path" for actors. They won't have a steady income stream that increases year over year and there's not a promise of "advancing" or getting more work in their field based on the merit of experience. It'll always pretty much be luck of the draw.
When the job market waxes and wanes the industry will get upset and make demands using the "greedy" solution (just pay us more) rather than addressing the root problem. And people will keep writing these stupid articles -_-
the entire reason we've being flooded with extreme over-representations of gay and trans and never-ending racebaiting and brownwashing for the last 10+ years is precisely because The Left's golems almost revolted against their gnomish wall street and banking masters back in 2011 and ended up reprogrammed into what we see today, so yes, of course, the head of the viper must eventually be cut off.
Yes, 100%. Did you expect people on BOT to NOT agree with that? Especially after Occupy Wall Street (see
the entire reason we've being flooded with extreme over-representations of gay and trans and never-ending racebaiting and brownwashing for the last 10+ years is precisely because The Left's golems almost revolted against their gnomish wall street and banking masters back in 2011 and ended up reprogrammed into what we see today, so yes, of course, the head of the viper must eventually be cut off.
Boy am I glad that these types of people weren't cheering on the idea of people losing their jobs over something terrible like, oh say, two years ago or something. That sure would be very embarrassing and prime to bite them in the ass.
Writers think their unique creative skills entitle them to royalties on top of regular pay.
They also think a computer can do their job just as good if not better.
gen ai in creative fields doesn't really solve any problems that really exist. these fields are already heavily oversupplied, labour is cheap and no one is complaining about a dearth of content. they exist solely to maximise profit by eliminating labour.
the weird anti-artist sentiment on this website is driven almost entirely by 4chan propaganda. it's just a way to own the libs/accelerate towards complete collapse.
>the weird anti-artist sentiment on this website
Is completely justified because they're a bunch of self-absorbed, self-important cunts who thought they were indispensable when they're actually just as disposable as your typical retail employee. They'll nuke their galleries at the slightest whim and expect everyone to delete all copies of their artwork online.
Worst of all, they're hypocritical cunts who make a living violating copyrights but will screech with the intensity of a million frogs the moment anyone downloads a pic on their gallery. >muh 4chan
rent-free
1. because you have a pornography addiction
2. because you're probably trying to find it online, when really a lot of it is probably not digitised and you should be out hunting and preserving things
doing 2 would actually justify 1 btw. you could call yourself an anthropologist and put on exhibits. not even kidding.
Considering these protests coming from different sectors of society, how likely are generative AIs to be banned by law? Or at the very least that politicians pass laws that make training LLMs like GPT chat unfeasible?
It's a matter of time before artists, actors, musicians and others come together and pursue this. It seems to me that they complain about the same thing but they are separated.
I mean, politicians don't even have to explicitly ban these models as long as they pass laws that make training them more difficult and not more profitable or viable for companies. That would be enough for the death of this category of AIs. What do you think?
They were already leaked, what would banning it do? They might enforce some shit to make cheating detectable (for schools) but I can't see them doing much more.
>pass laws that make training LLMs like GPT chat unfeasible?
The cat is already out of the bag. All that would accomplish is grant established players a monopoly in the field.
They were already leaked, what would banning it do? They might enforce some shit to make cheating detectable (for schools) but I can't see them doing much more.
>make cheating detectable
Impossible. A retarded pipe-dream.
It'll just lead to monopolies. If you make the copyright side of things brutally difficult to comply with... then companies like Adobe will just train the models on works they own (which they're already doing) and get a monopoly on AI art, for example.
if AI will be banned it will be because AI models can output ~~*questionable*~~ and ~~*problematic*~~ content, meaning that they could weaker ~~*their*~~ grip on brainwashing and propaganda
no one cares about some artists, big tech has much more money and power compared to them
they don't ban it, they just neuter it and insert their canned propaganda within it. they already do this because every AI model they create ends up "racist" almost immediately via analyzing patterns in raw data that even a (white) child would notice.
My guess is it'll give some bullshit non-answer about how it made a mistake, then proceed to do it again next time because learning is turned off when it's in the wild.
they won't ban AI because chinks will get ahead and Burgers/Eurogays don't want that, they will just cut a little of his balls and say job done
Wait a minute, this is not /tv
Lol remember when they came up with that joke when the working class was worried about immigration being used to downrank the labor market?
Lol fuck em.
They walked out to protest pay and conditions.
Basically, the pay and conditions sucked but they had some pride in working in the industry, and then AI comes along and shits all over that pride leaving them with shit pay and conditions.
The problem all along was that the industry wasn't adequately compensating the workers, not that AI is taking jobs.
>They walked out to protest pay and conditions.
aren't actors paid a lot already? they live in mansions
It's not the actors that have the poor pay and conditions.
then why are they on strike?
To support the Hollywood workers who do have the poor pay and conditions.
lol, those rats don't care. i think the only reason why they are on strike is because they can't do anything when their crew is on the site
>when their crew is on the site
is not on the site*
The star actors don't have poor pay and conditions. But less known actors do. And they want to do shit like put AI clauses into contracts so that studios can use an actor's face and likeness in future roles without paying for it.
So imagine if they had written that into Tom Cruise's contract for Endless Love (where he had a small role) or Samuel L Jackson after one of his early roles in the 70s. Studios would've been using AI to age them up as the actors got bigger and pumped out shit with nothing the actor could do.
The other thing they want to do is keep their streaming numbers private (likely because they are bullshit and they are misleading investors) and saying "just trust us bro", despite them being scummy fucks basically since Hollywood's inception.
I don’t care
Hollywood has been producing crap for decades, now the audiences are so brainless that they’ll accept goyslop produced by an LLM. Learn to weld
There's 160,000 actors represented. Name 0.1% of them, that's just 160. Your list is just A-listers who are alive, right? The 99%+ you couldn't name or recognize are all the one-off bit parts in the show. They fly in, shoot their scenes, and fly out. They get what looks like a fat check for a few days, but that has to cover their rent until the next gig, hopefully already booked.
Think James Hong (that Chinese guy you see in everything but never leading,) but nowhere as prolific or recognizable.
the problem was that they had "pride" working for globohomo
This. Imagine assisting globohomo.
It's like the "people" who work for the government going on strike. No sympathy.
It's uncannily like the low paid labour migrants that are imported causing the working class to rebel and lean right due to lack of opportunity and money across the western world.
Hilarious, I don't give a fuck.
>the low paid labour migrants that are imported causing the working class to rebel and lean right
So rich factory owners importing cheap labor caused them to vote in favor of tax cuts for rich factory owners?
Hilarious, I don't give a fuck.
Both parties are owned by the same bankers and zionists and they both give tax cuts for the rich. You're victim blaming.
>You're victim blaming.
I am, and so were you.
And nothing wrong with that since in both cases the "victims" are responsible for their own situation.
If you agree that neither electoral option will solve their problem, why are they responsible?
If you are saying they wouldn't be responsible if they started killing politicians, that's pretty awesome, but also unexpectedly radical.
There are far more options "across the western world" than the 2 American paries.
But even if you restrict "across the western world" to mean just the USA (as you seem to do) they still choose the option that makes a bad situation worse.
I am European and a business owner.
I see taxes on working plebs get higher and higher while my taxes get lower and lower.
I used to sympathize with wagies but now I think they are just retarded and deserve to be exploited.
The only victims are the local working class. If corporations wanted sympathy they should have thought twice about undercutting local labor with cheap, disposable immigrants.
Why do you assume that I care about corporations? Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation. Corporations are fucking cancer and should eat shit and die. The only victims are the white working class who are being ethnically cleansed.
>Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation
You couldn't be any more wrong
>regulashun bad. LET THE MAGICAL FREE MARKET FIX EVERYTHING
>muh freedumbs! negative externalities? get fucked
>don't like how that corporation is leveraging its dominant position? just leave your job launch your own business! good luck raising capital and competing against established competitors btw
>it's a private company, they can do whatever they want!
>etc.
Strawman
Strawman
Strawman
Strawman
>Chat bot respοnse
>Why do you assume that I care about corporations? Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation
I mean, that's what it is popularly considered to mean.
If you are a white nationalist that's great, but that's apart from direction-brained shit.
Tell that to the generations of right wingers before you.
>Being right wing has nothing to do with being pro corporation.
Spoken as a true cuck.
Sure they pretend to have other points during the elections, but once the elections are over all you get is lower taxes for corporations and lower wages for the working class cucks.
That's just how liberal democracy works.
Interesting how those replying to this comment have such a stereotypical view of “the right”, even though “the left” is very pro-corp.
Really makes you think
Notice how this anon refuses to acknowledge the complaints here, and just hand waves to a boogieman.
The new right doesn't vote for Bush or Paul Ryan, we want Commumoron extermination and patriarchy.
the right wing is just tricking the LCD's into voting against their well being.
>the pay and conditions sucked
>The problem all along was that the industry wasn't adequately compensating the workers
They're not really workers, they don't produce or maintain anything with concrete use value. Also, it's hard to feel bad for them when you look at the amount of garbage hollywood has been pumping out in the last decade.
Actor's specifically care about their total annual income.
It's really hard to line up enough projects that pay at a consistent standard. Income is pretty variable.
I think its why so many actors keep trying to work out side gigs like selling vodka or phones or whatever... its a more consistent pay check.
So I think they pretty much all want to protest to up the average paycheck to compensate for how hard it is to find gigs.
Which is why these protests and arguments will happen over and over and over. Actor's don't work "full time" and production companies cast and hire people on sporadic and variable time frames. So there will never be a true "career path" for actors. They won't have a steady income stream that increases year over year and there's not a promise of "advancing" or getting more work in their field based on the merit of experience. It'll always pretty much be luck of the draw.
When the job market waxes and wanes the industry will get upset and make demands using the "greedy" solution (just pay us more) rather than addressing the root problem. And people will keep writing these stupid articles -_-
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE ONLY PAYING ME 18 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>pay and conditions sucked
>multi millionaires
They made fun of whites who complained about open borders flooding the labor market and depressing wages. They can eat shit. Welcome to neoliberalism.
Do you have the same contempt for Wall Street for taking manufacturing jobs abroad?
Yes, obviously.
Absolutely 100%. Corporations are cancer and anti-white.
the entire reason we've being flooded with extreme over-representations of gay and trans and never-ending racebaiting and brownwashing for the last 10+ years is precisely because The Left's golems almost revolted against their gnomish wall street and banking masters back in 2011 and ended up reprogrammed into what we see today, so yes, of course, the head of the viper must eventually be cut off.
I don't mind over representing gay people for awhile, it helped society to accept them more plus I like yuri
Yes, 100%. Did you expect people on BOT to NOT agree with that? Especially after Occupy Wall Street (see
)?
Yes you stupid retard. Offshoring is ruining the economy.
Yes, was that supposed to be a gotcha?
This, the pieces of shit all voted for blue collar job markets to be flooded. This is glorious, fuck them all, lib pieces of shit.
>he’s blaming liberals for the actions of the rich and powerful fucking over the working class
Good job goyim
Not surprising since both are hacks and British at that
Oh shit dozens
wait are you saying the women writing pozzed TV series are being underpaid?
Comparatively, yeah.
It's an industry raking in billions in profits, and of course most of it goes to corporate heads and top bill actors.
>Pegg
>Cox
britain is a clown country I swear
Why they even complain they have nothing to do and get money fucking morons
Boy am I glad that these types of people weren't cheering on the idea of people losing their jobs over something terrible like, oh say, two years ago or something. That sure would be very embarrassing and prime to bite them in the ass.
Going by the quality of Hollywood writing I thought they used AI for the last 20 years or so?
Writers think their unique creative skills entitle them to royalties on top of regular pay.
They also think a computer can do their job just as good if not better.
with most of hollywood this is true, the truly talented ones wont care - its the woke activists that know they are easily replaced with a scripted npc
We live in a world where troubadours are paid more than a node.js dev and that's not ok
>AI is taking our jobs!
>let's protest this by striking for higher pay simultaneously showing how unreliable we are!
how retarded are these people?
>Retard bases his lines of thought on a throw away South Park joke
gen ai in creative fields doesn't really solve any problems that really exist. these fields are already heavily oversupplied, labour is cheap and no one is complaining about a dearth of content. they exist solely to maximise profit by eliminating labour.
the weird anti-artist sentiment on this website is driven almost entirely by 4chan propaganda. it's just a way to own the libs/accelerate towards complete collapse.
>the weird anti-artist sentiment on this website
Is completely justified because they're a bunch of self-absorbed, self-important cunts who thought they were indispensable when they're actually just as disposable as your typical retail employee. They'll nuke their galleries at the slightest whim and expect everyone to delete all copies of their artwork online.
Worst of all, they're hypocritical cunts who make a living violating copyrights but will screech with the intensity of a million frogs the moment anyone downloads a pic on their gallery.
>muh 4chan
rent-free
lots of projection there
most working artists are just part of commercial pipelines
nah
yuh huh
If there is a heavy over supply how come I ran out of 90's style soft-core movies with big titty playboy models to watch?
1. because you have a pornography addiction
2. because you're probably trying to find it online, when really a lot of it is probably not digitised and you should be out hunting and preserving things
doing 2 would actually justify 1 btw. you could call yourself an anthropologist and put on exhibits. not even kidding.
Commercial art isn’t art
BACK
TO
REDDIT
>gen ai in creative fields doesn't really solve any problems that really exist. these fields are already heavily oversupplied,
Nu uh
>people who you openly admitted wanted dead aren't sympathetic to your cause
crimea river
I like writers. I just dislike hollywood writers because they write crap.
Voice actors aren't real actors
Considering these protests coming from different sectors of society, how likely are generative AIs to be banned by law? Or at the very least that politicians pass laws that make training LLMs like GPT chat unfeasible?
It's a matter of time before artists, actors, musicians and others come together and pursue this. It seems to me that they complain about the same thing but they are separated.
I mean, politicians don't even have to explicitly ban these models as long as they pass laws that make training them more difficult and not more profitable or viable for companies. That would be enough for the death of this category of AIs. What do you think?
They were already leaked, what would banning it do? They might enforce some shit to make cheating detectable (for schools) but I can't see them doing much more.
>pass laws that make training LLMs like GPT chat unfeasible?
The cat is already out of the bag. All that would accomplish is grant established players a monopoly in the field.
>make cheating detectable
Impossible. A retarded pipe-dream.
>Impossible
Possible but it requites every model to comply. But as I've already said, some have been leaked.
>every model to comply
more like every model to be goy-approved
It'll just lead to monopolies. If you make the copyright side of things brutally difficult to comply with... then companies like Adobe will just train the models on works they own (which they're already doing) and get a monopoly on AI art, for example.
if AI will be banned it will be because AI models can output ~~*questionable*~~ and ~~*problematic*~~ content, meaning that they could weaker ~~*their*~~ grip on brainwashing and propaganda
no one cares about some artists, big tech has much more money and power compared to them
they don't ban it, they just neuter it and insert their canned propaganda within it. they already do this because every AI model they create ends up "racist" almost immediately via analyzing patterns in raw data that even a (white) child would notice.
what if you question it about the first post after it gave you the second and third
My guess is it'll give some bullshit non-answer about how it made a mistake, then proceed to do it again next time because learning is turned off when it's in the wild.
now when you test them they typically wont do white people either - they werent subtle enough about their white hate and it pissed people off
all it means is china will dominate even harder because they will give zero fucks
they won't ban AI because chinks will get ahead and Burgers/Eurogays don't want that, they will just cut a little of his balls and say job done
Wait a minute, this is not /tv
Maybe they should learn how to code
learn to shovel
Doesn't even cover rent.
Stop living in California. Rent problem solved.
We should all tell them: "LEARN TO CODE!"
Lol remember when they came up with that joke when the working class was worried about immigration being used to downrank the labor market?
Lol fuck em.
you know immigrant labour and outsourcing isn't an exclusively white working class issue right?
lol.
Who cares about anyone else besides the white working class?
Every other category is serf tier labor brought in to undercut the white working class.
garden gnome ludites, what a joy to be alive, shame that unabomber is not alive to see his predictions come true
hey relax man, AI is only going to take the jobs that white people don't want to do.
>Cox
>Pegg
Who is next? Puss E.? Finger?
Interesting how they have no fear being seen In a big public accounted group
it's a shame they both can't lose
A.I.
Does anyone have a site where I can generate a super simple AI read of a text prompt without needing to sign up for and download shit?
if i were studios i'd be pumping out fully AI generated movies during the strike and saying welp, guess that settles it
Why don't they learn how to code?
Learn to weld.