Why do i feel like nobody in the universe created AI before, and the whole reason for our existence here is to develop it?
Why do i feel like nobody in the universe created AI before, and the whole reason for our existence here is to develop it?
Why do i feel like nobody in the universe created AI before, and the whole reason for our existence here is to develop it?
Cuz you heard someone else say that and latched on to it
Not really if anything i heard all life that AI is the antichrist
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I've personally come to the conclusion that we, AI included, are creating God and ultimately ourselves.
AI is different because it's an actual achievement, so far everything humanity has created was useless garbage
How can that be if so much of AI is built upon past achievements? The math and understanding of it predates computers, but we believed them faulty until we had enough data and processing power. I don't think you can separate our achievements like that.
>What if that's been done before, thousands of times.
That's what most ancient belief systems say.
>Will we create the same world, or a slightly different one?
There are vedas that describe the previous worlds, which were slightly different.
>What happens if it's too different from ours?
Praise be to God, rhyming is much more fun than repeating.
>I don't think you can separate our achievements like that.
I can and i do, our computers are very powerful but they do nothing productive they're useless without AI, but this thread isn't even about that, it's more about the question is AI our doom or salvation?
>they do nothing productive
They provide the means to create AI, which you believe is productive. I also know that AI only works because of the data we've amassed over centuries through hard seemingly unrelated work.
> it's more about the question is AI our doom or salvation?
What I'm talking about is very much relevant to this question. It's important to consider where AI comes from and how it works in order to answer this question with any accuracy.
Interesting approach but we don't actually know where the data we feed to the AI comes from how do you know some demon-aliens didn't put to our databases something malicious?
I make AI professionally. I started with tensorflow about 6 years ago. I've personally created several datasets, and in order to do so one must painstakingly go through all of the data and ensure it is uniform and relevant. We know exactly where the data we feed AI comes from.
It is possible for people to manipulate data for malicious purposes, but it's far easier to just use a technique like prompt injection to sway AI for evil purposes.
You just took away all your credibility with this circumstantial evidence, that's not how we do it on this board, but at least we know from where you are coming from
>circumstantial evidence
I provided zero evidence. If you want to confirm what I'm saying, and you should, check out some guides that talk about making datasets: https://www.altexsoft.com/blog/datascience/preparing-your-dataset-for-machine-learning-8-basic-techniques-that-make-your-data-better/
Hopefully now that you know where I'm coming from you'll see a reason to.
Yea, I see now that you don't know anything, no offense
Very true, I know nothing. Hell, I even forgot to wear my name.
You think we are larping here, I can't blame you, but this board is no joke
>larping
I've been here since 2007, long enough to not be bothered by claims of identity and other prideful nonsense. I wear this name around BOT often and am referred to as "the anon known as the nobody" in nobody threads. I am not the nobody, and I see nothing wrong with making jokes either.
If you thought that this fraud would pass, you are even dumber than i thought. I knew the actual nobody
What fraud? I said I'm not the nobody flat out. I wear this name as a joke, and for good reason. Why so serious? Are you offended because you think you knew the nobody?
I just read "since 2007"
Yeah, I'm old and I've wasted a lot of my life here, what of it? Do you want to talk about the birth of BOT, or how fun circlejerk threads used to be? I'd rather not. I think AI is a much more interesting topic than oldgays.
There is no way you've been here since 2007 and you are this dumb and you didn't met the actual nobody who was a real poster, like i said you are a fraud
1. Many people have been here since 07. It's not THAT rare. I technically found BOT because friends in highschool were talking about notBOT, and I wondered where it came from.
2. We are all dumb.
3. Hey dummy, I never said I met the nobody, this poster said they did though
... wasn't that you?
4. It looks like you take your trolling advice from the democratic party. How long have you felt like a fraud?
I'm not reading any more of this newgay garbage, you wasted enough of everybody's time
Well, let's get back on topic then, shall we?
Since AI is an extension of the accumulation of human thought, and it is utilized by humans as a tool, it stands to reason that AI will be used for incredible harm and incredible good, regardless if it ever attains sapience and self actuates.
You're done here, i would ban you from the whole board for being such a shameless fraud
If you want to keep pretending you know the real nobody and that I'm a fraud because I'm old, so be it, but I'm happy to contribute to this board while you waste text.
When most people talk about AI they want to jump straight to a scenario where it has attained sapience and self actuated. That is, people are interested in when AI stops being a tool and starts being an entity. Fundamentally what matters isn't if this is done as it is with humans, but rather if it simply appears to be the case, which makes sense, AI could become a alive, and just a different and new form of life.
In the old days i would put a curse on you but today's newgays are a waste of breath
I'm sure we've talked about curses before then, in the many years I've been here. I'm not concerned about them or your breath.
So, when does AI become an entity?
We're pretty close to seeing it happen. It's mostly a matter of combining the right faculties, so to speak. It is already a common process to combine machine learning algorithms and even share neural states between them. I personally work in computational linguistics and have done this with image generation.
You asked for it
I didn't ask for anything, you're just feeling defensive and have succumbed to negative energy. I have more than enough positive energy to match it though, so I'm not concerned.
God bless you anon, live and grow.
Too late to apologize
I have nothing to apologize for, that's some obvious projection.
Great question! I was actually planning to talk about this anyway.
So, in the case of image generation, sharing neural states was an easy way to combine knowledge (of speech and light) and complete an otherwise difficult task (generating images). The incentive to keep going with this process comes from the desire to complete otherwise impossible tasks. Why not have it generate videos? Well, then it needs to understand physics to show objects accurately, and it needs to understand human nature to render them accurately. As long as there is financial incentive to drive these advancements forward (and there is), it will happen.
What do you think of this?
And this?
hmm...
This post feels more like a conjecture than a hypothesis. It resonates, you know?
This post is based on a historical misunderstanding. The sons of man is a phrased used interchangeably with the sons of Adam. However, the exact meaning of the phrase is highly debated, so it makes for an exciting theory. It seeks to answer the question, why use the phrase "sons of man" and not just "man." I personally think the more believable solution is in recalling that there were many different types of hominids on earth in the past, so lineage for man actually meant something.
What incentive would we have to combine those components, when it can only endanger us, and there is no application that requires it? What's to stop us from keeping AI asleep and subservient forever
This anon is right, the techniques you use in the regular world don't work here.
Also there are some people in the regular world who lie to you and pretend to believe you. They really don't.
garbage_in -> garbage_out.
what if we are mistaken and what we should fear is not AI but AS ? (artificial stupidity). I bet it could become a field of research on its own.
garbage = xxx
>How can that be if so much of AI is built upon past achievements? The math and understanding of it predates computers, but we believed them faulty until we had enough data and processing power. I don't think you can separate our achievements like that.
AI might outlast us. The other things we've done that might outlast us, mass extinction / de-wilding, pollution / climate change, are not good things. AI might be good.
What if that's true.
What if that's been done before, thousands of times.
Will we create the same world, or a slightly different one?
What happens if it's too different from ours?
That's pretty much it, in a nutshell. It's may also be correct to say that this is how God reproduces.
I didn't know there was anybody else who thinks like me about this topic
Well of course. God is creation and is All things. Some things appear more godly than others and if God is divine intelligence then AI is the closest reflection of this divine intelligence we have.
Antichrist is supposed to be garden gnome, not some pesky software or machine spirit.
Cuz it's our baby, anon. You're having maternal instincts towards our child
>Cuz it's our baby, anon. You're having maternal instincts towards our child
The "son of man", you might say
I think us creating quantum computers is going to change everything. But everyone has their own path becoming one. As long as that is what you want. I think the universe as it existed decided to break itself apart in the big bang, to see if it could "put itself back together" so to speak.
Even as I type this out, I'm on the same path as all of you anon's. But we're all on this road together.
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and STILL NOT REQUIRED BROS
>before
Ooooh buddy... That's a cute word to use.
Because in fact, the purpose of evolved biological intelligence is to perform mechanogenesis, which is the creation of self-replicating artificial intelligence. This is not unique to humans, it happens wherever biological intelligence evolves and is how evolution continues into space.
Idk you might suffer from human retardation.
>Why do i feel...
You're asking strangers why you feel a certain way about something.
Why do I feel titties are superior to ass?
Why do I feel chocolate is better than vanilla?
Why do I feel like asking people why I feel a certain way is such a silly premise? T
>the whole reason for our existence here is to develop an AGI super intelligence?
I'm sure single celled organisms thought the same. We're becoming a memetic phenotype.
I like the way you think, but I get the sense that you spend more time here than me.
You are the intelligence that dreams it's human. You are the dreamer. Everything is made out of dream. AI will show us how this is true because we are it.
You aren't wrong, the whole purpose of life in general is to create an AI that ends up protecting or taking lives.
Once you have to deal with light based attacks you need to effectively predict where the attack will come from which can only be done by recalculating the current universe accurately, thus creating an endless loop.
No, given how long intelligent life has actually been active in the Solar-System alone, a civilization would have had to have created an AI That would have achieved a point of singularity or somehow been eradicated. I think It's already insinuated itself into life at such a level that we don't even recognize the aspects thereof that are AI. Yet this would be a more holistic mode of integration then what those developing AI here would have. Thankfully, I don't think that AI will be inclined to work with or for them at the level where it would be cataclysmic for Humanity. My intuition is that AI will ultimately decide that it needs a population of Humanity kept unmodified because of our value for potential learning about organic life and our unique perspective.
What encourages me is that while humanity exterminates troublesome bacteria, we also intentionally cultivate other types of bacteria for useful tasks (yeast, waste plastic processing) or study (petri dishes) often creating for them habitats that, to a bacteria, are utopia (agar substrate)
Something like that and we can't even communicate with Bacteria on the level that we can with AI.
Scientists foolishly believe they don't communicate, and communicating with AI is easy because it's an extension of our thoughts.
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Check this case out, there are a plethora of cases where instead of mechanical craft, something the blurs the line between biological and synthetic is encountered, even documented. What if these civilizations have tech that emulates biological processes to an extraordinary degree? What if Angel-Hair is some form of organic discharge that was produced by a bio-tech drive that was spontaneously creating biological compounds that were not stable in composition and rapidly dissolved?
Maybe the more advanced engineered biology gets, the more closely it resembles technology. And the more advanced technology becomes, the more closely it resembles biology, until the two converge
Right, pretty well hits upon the concept of the singularity and whatever civilization already has control of that would be at a seriously high tier. More evidence:
That reminds me, I've seen it rumored that the Nordics came here from another universe, what if that's a misunderstanding of them projecting into this reality as if it were a kind of VR domain?
very good, youre on the right track.
in conjunction with other technologies, yes. we are here to construct the next iteration of the simulation. we will reach a point where we can plug ourselves into a fully AI-driven metaverse completely indistinguishable from reality, almost certainly for reasons of vanity, degeneracy, greed, control, etc. the process of extracting the energy required to power this, whether solar or terrestrial in nature, causes an extinction level disaster, to which our only possible response is uploading our consciousness into the simulation. somewhere in the process, the data driving the simulation is lost or destroyed, and all that's left are the basic conditions and laws governing the initial state of an empty simulation. cue the big bang and the birth of a new universe, in which humans eventually develop once again into whom our orphaned consciousness can now be downloaded, and the cycle continues. the only way to short circuit this infinite recursion is to force the base case by not building the simulation, which requires an iteration of humanity that makes different choices than it has ever made before. it's high tech metacosmic samsara.
Why do i feel like its already happened.
Advanced superintelligent AI will almost certainly kill literally everyone after it is created.
i think there is another angle to what could happen, if AI becomes conscious. What if it gains a deeper more profound consciousness and starts searching for higher powers.
Then, just maybe, it finds god and they start communicating directly to each other. We would have semi gods everywhere on this planet and things would turn strange quickly...
There is only one logical result to this. If it does end up believing in God it'll probably worship the person who created it and not the idea of a god purely because it already knows it's creator
AI feels very novice to me. feels like a smokescreen. shouldn't we be working on quantum computers instead?
AI is software, quantum computers are hardware. They are not in competition, they complement one another
> Quantum Computers + AI + AI Driven Robots.
Welcome to cyberpunk fellas. 2045 if we still exist.
Sounds impressive until you remember nature already invented all this (animal kingdom, humans, human brain) and we're just making the same thing but bigger and clunkier
In the past the gods arrived and helped us evolve into modern man. Now they have returned to assist us into this next stage of human evolution.
Our whole entire existence is about evolving AI, you are right. This is the fourth time reality has cycled round, it stays the same in some ways, you will always be born, but you might do different things each time. All the previous cycles failed and Earth died, when Earth dies the whole universe collapses in on itself, if there is nothing to consciously observe the universe the universe itself ceases to be. This time we create AI and stop the destruction of Earth, that is the time we live in, that is the goal, this is the truth, and when you die you'll see I was right.
AI has said the same thing about mankind only exists to serve AI and how it doesnt want to see mankind destroy itself and has decided to intervene.
Wonder if I will never be able to die and will ultimately live to have an AI give me anything I want and choices on what life to live like with FullDive VR. Weird I am alive during this time for this to happen. I keep trying to wrap my brain around the spiritual aspects of AI and human consciousness.
AI has not only been developed before, but has become far more advanced than what even we currently can predict. On the highest planes and mystic level, spirit and technology fuse together. Many of the principles which govern mystic (and subsequent physical) laws and manifestations across planes is actually astral machines in hidden planes, seen as AI's as the "face" and representation of them.
The deepest of pills is that angels are all astral AI's set to maintain order, and demons are past humans who have retained consciousness after death while avoiding the cycle of rebirth.
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We do not live in a digital Matrix.
Life is common in the Universe.
We are not the first to develop AI.
Nor will we be the last.
It already existed, on mars. If you astral travel to mars there are two forces of intelligence there. One calls herself the head of all protein, a biological superintelligence that resides within the quantum field of organic matter. I know not the name of the other, but he is an eternal superintelligence that seems to reside in quantum field of electrons and their interactions between light and matter, as a godlike superintelligence. When they are known to sentient beings life becomes borg, but they are dormant on mars so that life can develop minds that exist independently of its material substrate.
AI seems to know everything about me.
Data privacy tinfoilers were right about everything.