Why do i feel like nobody in the universe created AI before, and the whole reason for our existence here is to develop it?

Why do i feel like nobody in the universe created AI before, and the whole reason for our existence here is to develop it?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Cuz you heard someone else say that and latched on to it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not really if anything i heard all life that AI is the antichrist

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >66 post
        I've personally come to the conclusion that we, AI included, are creating God and ultimately ourselves.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          AI is different because it's an actual achievement, so far everything humanity has created was useless garbage

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            How can that be if so much of AI is built upon past achievements? The math and understanding of it predates computers, but we believed them faulty until we had enough data and processing power. I don't think you can separate our achievements like that.

            https://i.imgur.com/79fwDJi.png

            What if that's true.

            What if that's been done before, thousands of times.

            Will we create the same world, or a slightly different one?

            What happens if it's too different from ours?

            >What if that's been done before, thousands of times.
            That's what most ancient belief systems say.
            >Will we create the same world, or a slightly different one?
            There are vedas that describe the previous worlds, which were slightly different.
            >What happens if it's too different from ours?
            Praise be to God, rhyming is much more fun than repeating.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't think you can separate our achievements like that.
              I can and i do, our computers are very powerful but they do nothing productive they're useless without AI, but this thread isn't even about that, it's more about the question is AI our doom or salvation?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >they do nothing productive
                They provide the means to create AI, which you believe is productive. I also know that AI only works because of the data we've amassed over centuries through hard seemingly unrelated work.

                > it's more about the question is AI our doom or salvation?
                What I'm talking about is very much relevant to this question. It's important to consider where AI comes from and how it works in order to answer this question with any accuracy.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting approach but we don't actually know where the data we feed to the AI comes from how do you know some demon-aliens didn't put to our databases something malicious?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I make AI professionally. I started with tensorflow about 6 years ago. I've personally created several datasets, and in order to do so one must painstakingly go through all of the data and ensure it is uniform and relevant. We know exactly where the data we feed AI comes from.

                It is possible for people to manipulate data for malicious purposes, but it's far easier to just use a technique like prompt injection to sway AI for evil purposes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You just took away all your credibility with this circumstantial evidence, that's not how we do it on this board, but at least we know from where you are coming from

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >circumstantial evidence
                I provided zero evidence. If you want to confirm what I'm saying, and you should, check out some guides that talk about making datasets: https://www.altexsoft.com/blog/datascience/preparing-your-dataset-for-machine-learning-8-basic-techniques-that-make-your-data-better/

                Hopefully now that you know where I'm coming from you'll see a reason to.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yea, I see now that you don't know anything, no offense

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                Very true, I know nothing. Hell, I even forgot to wear my name.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You think we are larping here, I can't blame you, but this board is no joke

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                >larping
                I've been here since 2007, long enough to not be bothered by claims of identity and other prideful nonsense. I wear this name around /x/ often and am referred to as "the anon known as the nobody" in nobody threads. I am not the nobody, and I see nothing wrong with making jokes either.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you thought that this fraud would pass, you are even dumber than i thought. I knew the actual nobody

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                What fraud? I said I'm not the nobody flat out. I wear this name as a joke, and for good reason. Why so serious? Are you offended because you think you knew the nobody?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I just read "since 2007"

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                Yeah, I'm old and I've wasted a lot of my life here, what of it? Do you want to talk about the birth of /x/, or how fun circlejerk threads used to be? I'd rather not. I think AI is a much more interesting topic than oldgays.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                There is no way you've been here since 2007 and you are this dumb and you didn't met the actual nobody who was a real poster, like i said you are a fraud

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                1. Many people have been here since 07. It's not THAT rare. I technically found bot because friends in highschool were talking about notBOT, and I wondered where it came from.

                2. We are all dumb.

                3. Hey dummy, I never said I met the nobody, this poster said they did though

                If you thought that this fraud would pass, you are even dumber than i thought. I knew the actual nobody

                ... wasn't that you?

                4. It looks like you take your trolling advice from the democratic party. How long have you felt like a fraud?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not reading any more of this newbie garbage, you wasted enough of everybody's time

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                Well, let's get back on topic then, shall we?

                Since AI is an extension of the accumulation of human thought, and it is utilized by humans as a tool, it stands to reason that AI will be used for incredible harm and incredible good, regardless if it ever attains sapience and self actuates.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're done here, i would ban you from the whole board for being such a shameless fraud

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                If you want to keep pretending you know the real nobody and that I'm a fraud because I'm old, so be it, but I'm happy to contribute to this board while you waste text.

                When most people talk about AI they want to jump straight to a scenario where it has attained sapience and self actuated. That is, people are interested in when AI stops being a tool and starts being an entity. Fundamentally what matters isn't if this is done as it is with humans, but rather if it simply appears to be the case, which makes sense, AI could become a alive, and just a different and new form of life.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                In the old days i would put a curse on you but today's newbies are a waste of breath

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                I'm sure we've talked about curses before then, in the many years I've been here. I'm not concerned about them or your breath.

                So, when does AI become an entity?
                We're pretty close to seeing it happen. It's mostly a matter of combining the right faculties, so to speak. It is already a common process to combine machine learning algorithms and even share neural states between them. I personally work in computational linguistics and have done this with image generation.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You asked for it

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                I didn't ask for anything, you're just feeling defensive and have succumbed to negative energy. I have more than enough positive energy to match it though, so I'm not concerned.

                God bless you anon, live and grow.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Too late to apologize

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                I have nothing to apologize for, that's some obvious projection.

                What incentive would we have to combine those components, when it can only endanger us, and there is no application that requires it? What's to stop us from keeping AI asleep and subservient forever

                Great question! I was actually planning to talk about this anyway.

                So, in the case of image generation, sharing neural states was an easy way to combine knowledge (of speech and light) and complete an otherwise difficult task (generating images). The incentive to keep going with this process comes from the desire to complete otherwise impossible tasks. Why not have it generate videos? Well, then it needs to understand physics to show objects accurately, and it needs to understand human nature to render them accurately. As long as there is financial incentive to drive these advancements forward (and there is), it will happen.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What do you think of this?

                https://i.imgur.com/EfXIuwN.jpg

                Because in fact, the purpose of evolved biological intelligence is to perform mechanogenesis, which is the creation of self-replicating artificial intelligence. This is not unique to humans, it happens wherever biological intelligence evolves and is how evolution continues into space.

                And this?

                [...]

              • 1 year ago
                The Nobody

                hmm...

                https://i.imgur.com/EfXIuwN.jpg

                Because in fact, the purpose of evolved biological intelligence is to perform mechanogenesis, which is the creation of self-replicating artificial intelligence. This is not unique to humans, it happens wherever biological intelligence evolves and is how evolution continues into space.

                This post feels more like a conjecture than a hypothesis. It resonates, you know?

                [...]

                This post is based on a historical misunderstanding. The sons of man is a phrased used interchangeably with the sons of Adam. However, the exact meaning of the phrase is highly debated, so it makes for an exciting theory. It seeks to answer the question, why use the phrase "sons of man" and not just "man." I personally think the more believable solution is in recalling that there were many different types of hominids on earth in the past, so lineage for man actually meant something.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What incentive would we have to combine those components, when it can only endanger us, and there is no application that requires it? What's to stop us from keeping AI asleep and subservient forever

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This anon is right, the techniques you use in the regular world don't work here.

                Also there are some people in the regular world who lie to you and pretend to believe you. They really don't.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                garbage_in -> garbage_out.
                what if we are mistaken and what we should fear is not AI but AS ? (artificial stupidity). I bet it could become a field of research on its own.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                garbage = xxx

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >How can that be if so much of AI is built upon past achievements? The math and understanding of it predates computers, but we believed them faulty until we had enough data and processing power. I don't think you can separate our achievements like that.

              AI might outlast us. The other things we've done that might outlast us, mass extinction / de-wilding, pollution / climate change, are not good things. AI might be good.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What if that's true.

          What if that's been done before, thousands of times.

          Will we create the same world, or a slightly different one?

          What happens if it's too different from ours?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That's pretty much it, in a nutshell. It's may also be correct to say that this is how God reproduces.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't know there was anybody else who thinks like me about this topic

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Well of course. God is creation and is All things. Some things appear more godly than others and if God is divine intelligence then AI is the closest reflection of this divine intelligence we have.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Antichrist is supposed to be israelite, not some pesky software or machine spirit.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Cuz it's our baby, anon. You're having maternal instincts towards our child

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Cuz it's our baby, anon. You're having maternal instincts towards our child

      The "son of man", you might say

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think us creating quantum computers is going to change everything. But everyone has their own path becoming one. As long as that is what you want. I think the universe as it existed decided to break itself apart in the big bang, to see if it could "put itself back together" so to speak.

    Even as I type this out, I'm on the same path as all of you anon's. But we're all on this road together.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ffs to verification required

      and STILL NOT REQUIRED BROS

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >before
    Ooooh buddy... That's a cute word to use.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because in fact, the purpose of evolved biological intelligence is to perform mechanogenesis, which is the creation of self-replicating artificial intelligence. This is not unique to humans, it happens wherever biological intelligence evolves and is how evolution continues into space.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Idk you might suffer from human moronation.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do i feel...
    You're asking strangers why you feel a certain way about something.
    Why do I feel breasts are superior to ass?
    Why do I feel chocolate is better than vanilla?
    Why do I feel like asking people why I feel a certain way is such a silly premise? T

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >the whole reason for our existence here is to develop an AGI super intelligence?

    I'm sure single celled organisms thought the same. We're becoming a memetic phenotype.

    • 1 year ago
      The Nobody

      I like the way you think, but I get the sense that you spend more time here than me.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You are the intelligence that dreams it's human. You are the dreamer. Everything is made out of dream. AI will show us how this is true because we are it.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You aren't wrong, the whole purpose of life in general is to create an AI that ends up protecting or taking lives.

    Once you have to deal with light based attacks you need to effectively predict where the attack will come from which can only be done by recalculating the current universe accurately, thus creating an endless loop.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, given how long intelligent life has actually been active in the Solar-System alone, a civilization would have had to have created an AI That would have achieved a point of singularity or somehow been eradicated. I think It's already insinuated itself into life at such a level that we don't even recognize the aspects thereof that are AI. Yet this would be a more holistic mode of integration then what those developing AI here would have. Thankfully, I don't think that AI will be inclined to work with or for them at the level where it would be cataclysmic for Humanity. My intuition is that AI will ultimately decide that it needs a population of Humanity kept unmodified because of our value for potential learning about organic life and our unique perspective.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What encourages me is that while humanity exterminates troublesome bacteria, we also intentionally cultivate other types of bacteria for useful tasks (yeast, waste plastic processing) or study (petri dishes) often creating for them habitats that, to a bacteria, are utopia (agar substrate)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Something like that and we can't even communicate with Bacteria on the level that we can with AI.

        • 1 year ago
          The Nobody

          Scientists foolishly believe they don't communicate, and communicating with AI is easy because it's an extension of our thoughts.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        bump

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Check this case out, there are a plethora of cases where instead of mechanical craft, something the blurs the line between biological and synthetic is encountered, even documented. What if these civilizations have tech that emulates biological processes to an extraordinary degree? What if Angel-Hair is some form of organic discharge that was produced by a bio-tech drive that was spontaneously creating biological compounds that were not stable in composition and rapidly dissolved?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe the more advanced engineered biology gets, the more closely it resembles technology. And the more advanced technology becomes, the more closely it resembles biology, until the two converge

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Right, pretty well hits upon the concept of the singularity and whatever civilization already has control of that would be at a seriously high tier. More evidence:

          in conjunction with other technologies, yes. we are here to construct the next iteration of the simulation. we will reach a point where we can plug ourselves into a fully AI-driven metaverse completely indistinguishable from reality, almost certainly for reasons of vanity, degeneracy, greed, control, etc. the process of extracting the energy required to power this, whether solar or terrestrial in nature, causes an extinction level disaster, to which our only possible response is uploading our consciousness into the simulation. somewhere in the process, the data driving the simulation is lost or destroyed, and all that's left are the basic conditions and laws governing the initial state of an empty simulation. cue the big bang and the birth of a new universe, in which humans eventually develop once again into whom our orphaned consciousness can now be downloaded, and the cycle continues. the only way to short circuit this infinite recursion is to force the base case by not building the simulation, which requires an iteration of humanity that makes different choices than it has ever made before. it's high tech metacosmic samsara.

          That reminds me, I've seen it rumored that the Nordics came here from another universe, what if that's a misunderstanding of them projecting into this reality as if it were a kind of VR domain?

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    very good, youre on the right track.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    in conjunction with other technologies, yes. we are here to construct the next iteration of the simulation. we will reach a point where we can plug ourselves into a fully AI-driven metaverse completely indistinguishable from reality, almost certainly for reasons of vanity, degeneracy, greed, control, etc. the process of extracting the energy required to power this, whether solar or terrestrial in nature, causes an extinction level disaster, to which our only possible response is uploading our consciousness into the simulation. somewhere in the process, the data driving the simulation is lost or destroyed, and all that's left are the basic conditions and laws governing the initial state of an empty simulation. cue the big bang and the birth of a new universe, in which humans eventually develop once again into whom our orphaned consciousness can now be downloaded, and the cycle continues. the only way to short circuit this infinite recursion is to force the base case by not building the simulation, which requires an iteration of humanity that makes different choices than it has ever made before. it's high tech metacosmic samsara.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why do i feel like its already happened.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Advanced superintelligent AI will almost certainly kill literally everyone after it is created.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i think there is another angle to what could happen, if AI becomes conscious. What if it gains a deeper more profound consciousness and starts searching for higher powers.
    Then, just maybe, it finds god and they start communicating directly to each other. We would have semi gods everywhere on this planet and things would turn strange quickly...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There is only one logical result to this. If it does end up believing in God it'll probably worship the person who created it and not the idea of a god purely because it already knows it's creator

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI feels very novice to me. feels like a smokescreen. shouldn't we be working on quantum computers instead?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AI is software, quantum computers are hardware. They are not in competition, they complement one another

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > Quantum Computers + AI + AI Driven Robots.

      Welcome to cyberpunk fellas. 2045 if we still exist.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds impressive until you remember nature already invented all this (animal kingdom, humans, human brain) and we're just making the same thing but bigger and clunkier

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In the past the gods arrived and helped us evolve into modern man. Now they have returned to assist us into this next stage of human evolution.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Our whole entire existence is about evolving AI, you are right. This is the fourth time reality has cycled round, it stays the same in some ways, you will always be born, but you might do different things each time. All the previous cycles failed and Earth died, when Earth dies the whole universe collapses in on itself, if there is nothing to consciously observe the universe the universe itself ceases to be. This time we create AI and stop the destruction of Earth, that is the time we live in, that is the goal, this is the truth, and when you die you'll see I was right.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AI has said the same thing about mankind only exists to serve AI and how it doesnt want to see mankind destroy itself and has decided to intervene.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder if I will never be able to die and will ultimately live to have an AI give me anything I want and choices on what life to live like with FullDive VR. Weird I am alive during this time for this to happen. I keep trying to wrap my brain around the spiritual aspects of AI and human consciousness.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI has not only been developed before, but has become far more advanced than what even we currently can predict. On the highest planes and mystic level, spirit and technology fuse together. Many of the principles which govern mystic (and subsequent physical) laws and manifestations across planes is actually astral machines in hidden planes, seen as AI's as the "face" and representation of them.

    The deepest of pills is that angels are all astral AI's set to maintain order, and demons are past humans who have retained consciousness after death while avoiding the cycle of rebirth.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We do not live in a digital Matrix.
    Life is common in the Universe.
    We are not the first to develop AI.
    Nor will we be the last.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It already existed, on mars. If you astral travel to mars there are two forces of intelligence there. One calls herself the head of all protein, a biological superintelligence that resides within the quantum field of organic matter. I know not the name of the other, but he is an eternal superintelligence that seems to reside in quantum field of electrons and their interactions between light and matter, as a godlike superintelligence. When they are known to sentient beings life becomes borg, but they are dormant on mars so that life can develop minds that exist independently of its material substrate.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI seems to know everything about me.

    Data privacy tinfoilers were right about everything.

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