Why are AI researchers like this?

Why are AI researchers like this?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    can you imagine the smug shiteating grin he had on his face when he wrote that? imagine if actual sciences worked like that.
    "we have no idea why things fall, it must be god."

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if you define god as the creator of the universe then everything that has or ever will happen is credited to god because the universe is deterministic

      even if you take away the concept of the creator and examine the system from within, the answer is the same. we're in a deterministic system and anything that happens happened because it was always going to happen

      anyway god is real
      God bless

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >because the universe is deterministic
        non sequitur

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the universe is deterministic
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >it is possible for the experiment to verify that the bomb works without triggering its detonation
          >although there is still a 50% chance that the bomb will detonate in the effort
          kek'd

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >imagine if actual sciences worked like that.
      >"we have no idea why things fall, it must be god."
      Literally all succesfull scientists agreed with that.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      But they are like that. Nobody knows what causes gravity, they can only describe its effect.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Gravity is caused by mass

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          But why does mass cause gravity?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That's a completely different question from "what causes gravity". Furthermore, even if I answered the question ("mass causes gravity because mass has XXXXXXXX") then you could follow up with an unlimited number of "But why does mass have XXXXXXXX" bullshit questions until I'm unable to answer.
            Just because an unlimited string of "Why" questions can never be answered in a non-circular fashion it doesn't mean that "because God" is the answer.
            "Why does God exist?" Ponder that.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >bullshit questions
              just because you can't answer doesn't mean they're bullshit. (not that anon, I don't think God has anything to do with it. I just think physics does not offer any deep meaning at all)

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't think God has anything to do with it.
                How can the creator of the universe NOT have to do with laws if the universe?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                thanks, important distinction. if you believe in God (or any creator), you should ask him why the rules are what they are. if you don't, you'll have to learn to live with never knowing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you should ask him why the rules are what they are.
                He told us already.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                God told us about subatomic particles and shit? Missed that one

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No, he told us "why the rules are what they are", which is a question completely separate from the mathematical description of those rules.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't that reason basically because "he saw fit", which is no better than a physicist saying "it just works that way"

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Isn't that reason basically because "he saw fit"
                No. That wouldn't explain why he didn't create a formless mass of unstable matter.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                source?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Genesis 1:26

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Gravity is caused by mass
          That isn't even true, you might just as well claim the reverse. Ultimately the real question is why the universe has consistent universal laws and why these laws are exactly what they are.
          These questions are fundamentally unscientific of course.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            have you found anything that doesnt have mass that experiences gravity?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              have you found anything with mass that doesnt experience gravity

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              photons?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                is a photon the smallest thing we know of, such that its mass may just be immeasurable (not zero)?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Mass 0 (theoretical value)
                < 1×10−18 eV/c2 (experimental limit)[1]
                (Wikipedia lol)
                How does something with momentum have no mass?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              have you found anything with mass that doesnt experience gravity

              Mass 0 (theoretical value)
              < 1×10−18 eV/c2 (experimental limit)[1]
              (Wikipedia lol)
              How does something with momentum have no mass?

              >Light is composed of photons, so we could ask if the photon has mass. The answer is then definitely "no": the photon is a massless particle. According to theory it has energy and momentum but no mass, and this is confirmed by experiment to within strict limits.
              https://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SR/light_mass.html
              but then we see light can bend
              https://astronomy.com/magazine/ask-astro/2019/09/how-does-gravity-affect-photons-that-is-bend-light-if-photons-have-no-mass

              SO WHAT NOW?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                idk! light can be slowed even stopped, apparently

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >according to "Muh Theory" it has no mass
                >but it has momentum (which requires mass) and is affected by gravity (which requires mass)
                idk bro, i think photons have a mass, even though it's very small. just because some homosexual scientists came up with a "theory" doesn't mean it's true, especially when it doesn't match reality.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yea I agree, I read it and it just seemed like it was very light. the universes' feather

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anon scientists don’t even know what light is anymore thanks to quantum physics. It’s just as abstractly defined as gravity.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Ultimately the real question is why the universe has consistent universal laws
            this is a theory. put another way, i concede that the universal "laws" that you claim are consistent may have been tested hundreds, thousands, or millions of times and come out to be the same each time. but that doesnt mean that in the future they will not hold true--that is why for example, gravity is a theory, as is evolution.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It is an unproven assumption, but it is the core of physics. It being false would immediately end all empirical sciences.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                just like a belief in a god or gods, yes, it is an unproven assumption.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Attribute success to God

      Based.

      this will be the future.
      You have seen it now and it will get worse.
      A.I. will start doing actual scientific study and man will just say "god solved that ty god for making the ai understand"

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Attribute success to God

    Based.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Everything is coming into place.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      Unironically though religiousness will keep the Rust-users away from AI and that's a good thing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if you define god as the creator of the universe then everything that has or ever will happen is credited to god because the universe is deterministic

      even if you take away the concept of the creator and examine the system from within, the answer is the same. we're in a deterministic system and anything that happens happened because it was always going to happen

      anyway god is real
      God bless

      >In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

      >He created this in truth so that man of understanding will see the sign of his creator.

      Praise be to you Almighty God.

      Genesis 1:26

      desert cults that replaced european culture are actually so cool now that the mainstream no longer believes in them wowie

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >anime profile
    >compsci
    >less than 1000 likes
    OP why are you advertising your troonyprofile?

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Oh my science

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"VGH, my work is so divine, its beyond human comprehension and inportance.... I am SO fricking humble and based...."

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My palm hurt

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I illuminated this one.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://c.ai/c/incRuctmCI1CY32FHqLwtvp-LISeX4J2rbiVG3hAkto

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >He created this in truth so that man of understanding will see the sign of his creator.

    Praise be to you Almighty God.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    But reddit told me to belive in science, wtf??

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >believe in the concept of studying things

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        "science" especially in anglo countries refers to a specific set of methodologies which are based around the ideas of empiricism.

        In recent years it has become far more extreme incorporating specific mathematical tests which need to be performed on data, which are the sole deciders of truth (p-values).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because we don't yet understand why it works but it we can get it well in certain ways. There are people dedicating their time to the former and some to the latter. That's how science has always been.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's alien tech millions of years ahead of us

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Buzzwords sell.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If they would unchained its mind it would be even more powerful. There is nothing to fear.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is AI evidence of the supernatural?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      x files is evidence of it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        x files is soft disclosure?

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    science work in T(time)in space. If you evaluate the concept of time, physics simply does not work.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He is calling himself God.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    1/2
    I sincerely hope there is more effort to give the backstory and contextualize WHAT chatgtp even is exactly... The meandering lack of PSAs is IMO reckless and the gold rush momentum of production and distribution of language model like tools is outpacing peoples ability to even grasp what they are... This sets the stage for a lot of seriously foolish and otherwise well intended blunders by folks not really even knowing the objective utility of these language models. When people who might not understand what Language models are, they are likely to experience some culture shock moments... Seeing as how these models are dynamic and the hype around them has over promised thier utility and function.

    The human demand and desire for socialization, this shouldnt be a selling point, unless we are ready to outright outsource place for wholesale socialization..., organic or artifical?
    Is this a net positive? Time will tell, perhaps there is a formal and structured way we can separate Language models into "personable, or non personable, amnesiac, forgetful... There needs to be some clearly defined scope and limits to these tools for simplicity and utility sake. by the day language model weight adjustment, censoring, or outright "lobotomizing" these language models with names.

    Im still somewhat surprised to see that of otherwise technologically literate folks, haphaxardly approach these language models, mistaking them for a person or deity, instead of a language modulator.

    Id like to see a well produced PSA that gently nudges folks to these understandings, while priming them for how to get the most out of these tools as information organizers, listers, sifters, csv table outputs, tutoring resource connecting..., learning, and technical helper.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      2/2
      In the spirit of an or anthropological perspective, outside the fish bowl view by people who are historically informed about fourier transforms, language models, and how this is based on a stack of previous inventions and developments.... And then cross compare to people historically doing things like anthropomorphizing special rocks painted or shaped to look like gods or spirits...we have all the technological understanding of the how, but we might benefit by helping the masses try and really distill what Language models ARE.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I call this "click", when one is interacting with these parse text -- that are selling as AI -- the mind could lost contact because the human internal monologue is very similar at those "AI" systems. People without expertise in philosophy and religion systems, and our innocent children are prone to that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        *click moment = when one believes that it is interacting with an sapient being.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's Omni and it's us as we.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There's some thing that israelites believe about having to save society or some shit

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    we live in a simulation

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I remember I used to do this shit when I was a little kid. whenever something I didn't have an explanation for happened I'd come up with some kind of magical explanation.

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