when will Ai replace nurses?
I could write a script to automate their worthless jobs.
when will Ai replace nurses? I could write a script to automate their worthless jobs.
when will Ai replace nurses?
probably not for ages since a ton of what they do is manual labour
which is tough to replace with AI for reasons similar the ones it won't be replacing the trades any time soon
robotics is way behind AI
doctors will be replaced before nurses because of
I just doubt doctors will allow that without some sabotage from their part
They gate-keep the knowledge about our body
I don't see open forums dedicated to discuss this knowledge
And they have a snake as their symbol
just buy a book, or ask me.
How powerful is the body's ability to self-repair?
Your dick will not grow back. I'm sorry.
It can, the body is just told not to, an evolutionaru quirk
It's incredible. The only reason we don't grow our teeth back is because it's disabled by a gene. You could grow even limbs back with correct flags set
>doctors will allow that
They won't have an option to stop it, and most likely AI and automation would make the procedure standardized and better, with a doctor nearby to look.
A lot of what nurses do will be supplemented by automation and AI, but it won't replace them because at some point you need someone to shovel shit somewhere.
you literally have to be a doctor to prescribe medication (99.9999% of the time), and doctors control entry into their profession
There's also just having a human touching you, it's comforting to a sick person to have a human telling them it will be okay. If you're on a table after a nasty car wreck, what do you want, someone holding your arm saying "it's okay", or a machine?
And, spend some time in a hospital. It's depressing as it is. And a machine with a script can't deal with an elderly cancer patient with intermittant dementia because the mets in their brain are wiping their memory and identity, and they keep getting out of bed, fighting with staff, and hurtling down the hallway half naked, screaming.
Yeah, i saw shit just like that when both of my parents died. Your cute scripts can't handle shit.
People forget that price of misprediction is severe in anything but generating anime tiddies. Faulty pipe installation, faulty electric wiring, faulty medical diagnosis will avsolutely fuck people up. They need to be 100% correct 100% of the time, not 60% correct 60% of the time
>I could write a script to automate their worthless jobs.
Fucking retard, what's hard for a robot about that job is the part where it would need to correctly perceive, model, and interact with the physical world.
Go write a script for that.
Humans regularly fuck up those things as well though.
With humans you have someone to blame. Will you take responsibility for all the people that die due to your mistake making the AI?
>16. Limitation of Liability.
>IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MODIFIES AND/OR CONVEYS THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
So it's unusable then. Nobody in their right mind would ever take a doctor with that kind of terms, ever.
>Human fucks up X% of the time with lethal consequences for me
>Robot fucks up Y% of the time with lethal consequences for me
I would take the robot if Y < X since liability won't matter to me once I'm dead.
The rate at which medical errors kill people is difficult to measure but it's estimated that medical errors made by human doctors kill hundreds of thousands of people each year in the US alone.
>yeah this robot may kill you, we won't take any responsibility for whatever happens, but it should be okay
Sounds like a hard sale.
Shit, can you even sell coffee like this?
<so, this is coffee?
<it's safe to drink right?
<what if it's not
>i'm not taking any responsibility, that'll be $5
Pretty sure this would be illegal
I was being asked about the perspective of the software developer, not about the perspective of the person that decides whether the software should be used.
I quoted the text regarding liability from the GPL.
If free software for e.g. medical diagnosis were to be released there would still need to be some person down the line that decides that the diagnosis should be believed, knowing that the software is wrong some percentage of the time.
That person would/should be responsible.
This and ai can learn from any mistake and apply it to all implementations. If one doctor fucks up somewhere then it's not guaranteed all doctors will learn from the mistake.
Just have to make sure the incentive structures are correct.
AI is probably already more precise/accurate/correct than humans in a lot of cases and there's plenty of reason to believe their realm will expand. They will be held back by liability claims and """"job protection"""" more than by the technology itself.
elon said the same thing about self driving cars but the truth is they are absolutely terrible
>t. not surgeon
my dad is a surgeon and literally cracks people's bones back into place.
Surgery is easier to replace with robotics than nursery. You can tie a patient to a bed for a few hours and watch a robot pump balloons into an artery, cut a tumor with a laser etc, but you can't make a robot that can safely wipe someone's ass without supervision.
Theoretically I agree since it's a lot easier for a robot to just aggregate all knowledge from guidelines/uptodate/studies/etc and probably do a better job delivering diagnoses and choosing therapies.
However, doctors are a legally protected profession. Even if an AI does the job better, there are laws that a doctor is required anyway. It could still happen eventually, but there are tons of barriers and laws that would need to be changed. And midlevels like NPs and PAs would be first on the chopping block.
That would require the group that provides the AI to take on liability for its decisions and diagnoses, which will never happen.
>robotics is way behind A
because garden gnomes want spyware and not post-scarcity
Don't make me laugh. Nurse is an ambiguous term too.
tattoos are very common in nurses why
women are already automatons
low class job
low class people
If you didnt know, nurses are particularly slutty. I was a transporter for a little while in a hospital and I was swimming in pussy.
They're walking cock-holsters and they love medic dick.
America's bizarre obbession with morons is what lead to these harpies marking themselves. The tattoo craze really kicked off in the 2000s. No matter how attractive a woman is, if she's got piercings or tattoos, then she's damaged goods to me.
big dubs, passed the fact check
>i'm scared of da evul fayk newz!
schizo, time for your ads
I love baiting bots
>the bots are everywhere!
classic pedo reply, but i'm not going to fall for it. we get it, you are afraid. afraid of other men that touched a women, afraid of art, afraid of needles, afraid of transparency. Yes, you are very afraid. The bots will take you jobs. Because: you = paranoid schizophrenic.
Imagine dignity. That imagination is all you will ever get of it.
>I'm scared of needles, therefore everybody else is damaged goods!
Who the fuck cares about what you want to see? I don't, the rest of the board doesn't, the rest of the whole website doesn't. Nobody cares that you're into secretive girls that show nothing of their past. Nobody cares.
You're just a database number shaped bubble carrying a wallet and potentially also a data well for some corporation feeding its ML models. You want european gas? You better continue killing yourself by fracking for it at your own doorstep this decade, because you're not going to get ours. You don't even have the money to pay for it in the first place, or so we heard.
So, once I see somebody see scared of needles, I don't consider them adult but as some kind of toddler which didn't quite mature in a healthy manner.
>scared of needles
Needles are fine, I just don't like morondoodles
You are scared of people that show some sort of transparency. A cuckold. Secretive wife is what you want, a cheater is what that will get you.
I just think tattoos look ugly. No I don't want to date some whore with skin that looks like the bathroom stall wall in a dive bar. Do you also enjoy street grafitti?
Do you enjoy ads?
You are awfully triggered by my personal preferences. Let me guess, you have tattoos and identify as female
Nope, you are the gossiping woman here, not me. You assume whatever you want, like some dumb bitch that needs to get her way. You even think I'm triggered when I didn't even remember having this waste of time tab still open lol
da jooz r cuming 4 u, retard
>I only like virgin e-bois with pure skin!
Well welll welll... Another USA pedophile found out!
I would rather date a hooker with clear skin than virgin with tattoos. What do you say now gay. I dont care if you didnt fuck anyone with tattos you look likeb you give blowjob's to hobos behind a dumpster .
Took me a while to understand your post, you could really do with some punctuation. Personally I'd take the virgin with tattoos because high body count can be even more disgusting than tattoos. But I'd rather just have a regular girl with no tattoos
pussy doesnt have a counter. And unless its some extraordinary number it can be natural and normal. Having tatoos all over your body is a definite sign of mental illness. There are a few excuses for selling body but 0 for paying for your own self mutilation.
>What do you say now gay
I don't have to say anything at all, you're raging autonomously at this point.
Because I will fuck both, my dick is twice the size of yours. What do you live now, gaygpt?
>my dick is twice the size of yours.
mine is inch and a half so yours is 3 inches
>you look likeb you give blowjob's to hobos behind a dumpster .
Why is this gay retard watching hobo blowjobs?
nursing is easy to go into, so most ex high school sluts go into the field
>whores brand themselves as whores why
Because they're whores
fat nurses are common in my country too... I wonder why
I bet bitter, lonely hypocritical manchildren are a thing as well, eh?
u wot m8
When will AI replace hardware designers
Practically all silicon is already genersted using auto-laying tools, only writing schematics of what you want is left to people
When AI is able to draw out circuit boards in CAD.
i love this image, Jony presenting the Mac Pro to Tim like it's the first time he's ever seen it
Oof, someone hurt you.
Imagine thinking robots and AI could replace one of the more manual labor professions which often involves fine motor skill activities like putting needles in people's tiny as fuck veins.
Lmao a nurse saw your small pp in hospital now you're forever mad
>fine motor skills such as injecting
moron even junkies can do that
Imagine wanting to visit an actual factory for "repair".
Even unfriendly humans are better than the hellscape you seem to be thinking of.
when will your worthless ass be finally buried
>when will Ai replace nurses?
In its current form? Not yet.
If we retrofitted a factory? Now.
I'm pretty sure video generating AIs can already do tiktok dances, and text generating AI can complain about how hard it is to be a nurse.
AI will finally make nurses actually work again by taking over their other activities
Considering how much trouble imageAIs have with hands, I have my doubts. Counting has also proven insurmountable, since it's not actually getting it, just a statistical tool that sometimes outputs mostly correct
I'm 100% certain that it would take less time and other resources to train an AI to do hands properly, than the time and resources that nurses waste on tiktok dances
Yet billion dollar companies habitually fail at it. Those tiktok thots seem to have no problem recognizing hands and their position 100% of the time
I don't think billion dollar companies are optimizing for hands yet, but they will eventually. The hands problem only needs to be solved once to solve the nurse problem forever
That's easy, though. Generating them properly is much, much harder.
So aiming would be quite difficult then? If you can't imagine where a hand should be, it can't be doing that good
Off topic but I wouldn't want to be near a painted nurse like that
Who knows what kind of Hepatitis that she got when getting under the needle
Only about half of the nurses I've met seemed competent at their jobs.
Sadly I've never met a coder that's competent at theirs either. Yes that includes the guy who's supposedly correcting the other guy's mistakes. You're all retarded trash.
Have a (you)
nurses are harder to replace than doctors anon...
and I would say they are worth more than doctors
The opposite is actually true.
Go on then
You spelled doctors wrong
But what about tiktok?
>I could write a script to automate their worthless jobs.
if only you could write a script to have sex lmao gay ass nerd
You know that like every hospital in the country will let you follow a nurse around for a day/night if you ask, right?
I can tell most of you motherfuckers experience with nursing is from tik-tok.
wouldn't that break all kinds of patient confidentiality/privacy laws?
are her eye brows drawn on or did they really grow like that
ER nurses are 90% horrible people.
Not all nurses are thots, but there A LOT of thots in nursing.
I've had good experiences with nurses in specialist clinics and physical therapists.
t. Hospital sysadmin
nurses are the moderately popular but stupid girls in school that dropped out of higher education and have DECADES of cock carousel
I'm not saying they don't have a good reason to be horrible people. I'm sure they are jaded from seeing all sorts of dumb shit. But even in mundane daily relationships with people, they are mostly horrible in unnecessary ways. There's always catty shit going on in the ER and most of it is incredibly petty
>ER nurses are 90% horrible people.
After the 80th moron who was a goodboy and you dont know why he got shot at that gang shootout happens or the 12th time you see a man come in to the hospital cause he shoved something up his ass, you start to feel most people in the world could die and itd be an improvement.
You could? But are you that evil? You better remember that you reap what you sow.
If anon.status == "schizo"
No. Nurses are manual laborers.
Nursing isn't a worthless job & has been a profession long before IT was even a thing. All you code monkeys & office wagecucks however are on borrowed time. In 10 years, AI will replace your jobs.
We're already living in the age of deep fakes & AI art generators, so you better choose your professions wisely.
This post made me seethe (because it’s probably true)
we will get UBI while nurses have to go be wagies
Nothing worse on this planet than some seethibg pop-sci 4chan morons who still confuses machine learning with AI.
This pic is funny because all those jobs still exist.
You all are cucks. We could do something about the AI crap but now we are just anticipating our doom.
Can your gay script make dancing tiktoks? Didn't think so
Damnit you beat me.
>I could write a script to automate their worthless jobs.
You can write a scripts to:
Change a bedpan/pee bottle
Intubate a patient
Shave a surgical site
Insert an IV
Help a patient stand
Attach an oxygen tube nasally
These are all common, hourly tasks nurses do. Write the script. C'mon, big boy, hike up your coding socks and show us.
intubation not so much a common hourly task…
In a hospital? Yes, it is.
Still waiting for that script...
nurses literally almost never intubate patients unless they work in intensive care, and even then only in emergency situations
Horseshit. I spent probably a year combined in hospitals as my parents died, and have nurses and doctors in the family. Intubation is common. Period. Stop trying so hard to be a contrarian neckbeard.
I am a doctor who works in an ED: even I don’t intubate people. That is what anaesthesiologists are for.
>Dude, I am imcompetent!
>Somebody has to do what I cannot!
>I am god, every human was created by my image, every doctors brain is the same pea size as mine!
>I am a doctor
Whew, lad. Going all in on contrarian neckbearding, lol.
Most docs are contrarian neckbeards. We also a) do laugh about your stupid bullshit with the nurses and b) deliberately delay your investigations/ referrals because we think you’re a cunt. Lol.
No ED I’ve ever worked in here keeps anesthesia on deck, what the fuck? I’m in Canadia mind you but that’s just not a thing here. Our ed docs tube, even our urgent care docs do it here.
>what is surgery
she looks like she spreads diseases
Imagine if she gave you a vasectomy.
In the future everyone will have their own personal physician to keep them in tip-top shape, and their patients will have a reason to stay healthy.
tbh we’ll all just be being minced into thermal paste for moar processors, don’t worry about it
AI should replace these so called nurses and doctors, bunch of greedy mfs.
But yeah thots with tattoos should be purged with fire!
i'd murder you and your whole family for a whiff of her puss
How to make a non-racist "AI": Plaster the site with tattooed women
you mean doctors right? nurses do all the manual labor handyman type of jobs.Doctors just write prescriptions or surgery that robot already can do.
This is a Hoyer.
It's used to take patients out of bed.
It's the size of the room, costs thousands of dollars, and takes about a half an hour to do the job.
As opposed to a human, who just grabs the person by the waist band, stands him up, pivots him and puts him in a chair.
Supporting children to take care of their elders in need, can't have that.
We need millions of more jobless, so we can waste billions on a self driving Hoyer that everyone hates.
>costs thousands of dollars
It doesn't. It's 4 planks, maybe 4 wheels, one rope and some hookthings (don't know the english name) in order to make a pulley system
almost everybody with a garage and a bike has such shit and it's not more than maybe 60 bucks for the ropes and pulley systems components.
you're deluding yourself if you think most people would be able to jerry-rig something like this
That's not how these things works.
Stop replying to my posts, I don't need your "input".
Pretty sure nobody is thinking that. Only I am thinking ITT. But not that.
Look for yourself. The other ones only have words. I have manuals, ideas, a fantasy, a grip on the real world and engineering ingenuity. You only have naysaying.
I'm sure a major healthcare system will totally contract you to build their patient cranes, anon. good luck
Why would I build cranes? Assume shit over Anon somewhere else, but not here with me.
you sure have fantasies alright anon
Nice try op, but I've seen that one before.
Yeah I was gonna suggest this too
My engine hoist could definitely sub in for that medical hoist
>when will Ai replace nurses?
AI will replace femily medicine doctors firs before nurses and surgical doctors.
d.. domo arigato mister roboto...
american version will probably need to be a forklift
Fuck you. You’d change your mind on nurses if you were in hospital. They work long hours and bring you your medicine when you need it
I think AI can likely replace doctors already
>Tell me the problem / your symptoms
>Show me a photo to scan of your afflicted area
BEEP BOOP PROCESSING
>Have you had unprotected sexual activity recently?
BEEP BOOP PROCESSING
>Results are in, AI has diagnosed you having syphilis with 99% certainty.
Something like that. Then they refer you to a pharmacy for the cure/treatment or have it mailed to you
So so bitter
>Ai replacing tasks in the real word when it can't even drive a car
>those MAN hands
hating nurse is the realm of someone who's never been incapacitated in hospital.
trust me - when you're lying flat on your back with a catheter and a bag filling with piss and no pain meds for a few hours: a nurse is your best fucken friend.
Im not afraid of pain nor death and I just got out of 8 days of emergency care. These whores did not take care of my hygiene at all and I couldnt do it myself due to 10 pipes coming off my body and being literally tied down. I smelled like a fucking hobo and I couldnt even sleep due to the stench.
maybe it was the fact that you were a rude fucking cunt that made them not so keen to attend to your every need.
>literally tied down
No, I know how to handle service sector people with respect, back in the day I started as one of you. And I was tied down so I wouldnt move too much and pull some shit off. The nurses literally just left me to steep in my own juices while all they did was take my piss bottle away and refeed the tower with painkillers and liquid food. The painkillers were utterly pointless, I went trough 24 hours of peak pain at home beforehand with 0 painkillers. Noone would wash me or give me a shave or anything, I REEKED bro.
>And I was tied down so I wouldnt move too much and pull some shit off.
that is literally bullshit. I mean you didn't type that - a male cow literally shat where those words are.
Here's a protip - nurses aren't there to wash your junk in the shower and give you a nice close shave. That's ancillary staff at best - and most hospitals wouldn't cater to it unless you're a long term stay (in which case you'd be in a hospice)
So, stop lying.
I'm guess involuntary admission to a mental health ward and you were an obnoxious prick which basically meant no-one wanted to have anything to do with you.
oh yes intestinal surgery was ACHUALLY a case where I was put in mentalk ward. Fucking have a nice day you lazy fucking moron, 2 wet wipes across the nuts once a day when Im not pissing nor shitting but sweating like a pig all over is totally sufficient hygiene. I could hear you fucking lazy fucking morons chatting and snoring in your restroom. This is where my taxes fucking go and I would have been better off after the operation if the doc just sent me home instead of being poisoned with fentanyl + paracetamol coctail for a fucking week
there is no situation where you would be physically restrained for stomach surgery.
The only possible situation I can think of would be
>you come out of surgery
>you try to pull your drains out
>they tell you repeatedly not to
basically it would mean more surgery or the risk of sepsis
>you continue to do so
even then there's fucking paperwork up the wazoo to fill out and honestly - I'd let you do it just to see you suffer as the puss doesn't drain
- don't lie
- admit you were an obnoxious little cunt which is why no one wanted to deal with you
I had the restraints on right after my first op (3 total) coming out of anesthesia + 3 days after the last operatrion, unless you are telling me I tried to kick the shit out of the op staff while being under and had to be restained the procedure is obviously different here. moron. Also 3 days of quietly sitting trough hallucinations due to some bullshit up the intravenous chain until the doc visited and I could tell him and none of you fuckers wouldnt listen nor relay how much I fucking dislike that shit. All you lazy shits do is measure the piss, refeed the tower with whatever the procedure/program is and you decide nothing nor have an opinion. Least you can do is fucking take care of the hygiene - the most enraging part is how I was willing to sit on a chair and wash my self out of a bucket and I was told there are no buckets on the whole hospital floor so 2 wet wipes is what was supposed to be enough for a physically active man in mid 30s. Its pure lazyness and unwillingness to make any decisions nor take responsibility for anything outside your little piece of shit job description. Fuck you and stop leeching off my taxes fucking moron, 2/3 of your shift you are snoring and doing jack shit.
>- don't lie
>- admit you were an obnoxious little cunt which is why no one wanted to deal with you
Lol yeah, based on his posts and this response
, he was an obviously belligerent patient. Bad reaction to the anesthetic probably exacerbated his discomfort, and so they had to keep him restrained so he wouldn’t end up make things worse. The humiliation of not being given any personal agency during the recovery process seems to have really gotten to him.
I went trough 24 hours of 11/10 pain at home with no painkillers, dont give me lip about discomfort.
Reminder - you are not a qualified and certified dictor, you decide nothing, you dont even have an opinion so the least you can do is take care of the patient. You are not overqualified to take care of the patients hygiene because you can jam a cathereder in and refeed the tower. You JOB is to make sure everything is HYGIENIC during the recovery process so I dont get infections and can actually sleep during recovery besides gagging on my own stench for days on end.
>patient is a total asshole
Many such cases. Being a nurse is br00tal work.
As a murse, I can tell you that patients are violent and vindictive shits. Even if we had robotics that matched current levels of AI today, it wouldn't matter because the patients would inevitably end up wrecking everything.
Also, those of you that are about to lose their jobs should consider joining nursing.
We need more men. You work 3 days a week with 12 hour shifts, and can comfortably bring home 6 figures (in the west coast). You don't need to ever worry about finding a job or going through rigorous interviews because there's shortages everywhere, and if bedside isn't your thing, after a couple more years in school you can become an NP and play pretend doctor in some rural shithole you probably already live in, or a CRNA and bring home big $ with little effort if you're smart.
Med field is so based for making money and jobs are aplenty. I think pharmacy is the only aspect of it that is legitimately cucked, though— at least in Texas. They know as much (if not more) than the physicians, bear similar responsibilities for proper dose management, and get paid about the same (if not less) than a nurse. It’s fucking ridiculous.
can you get fired for not being friendly?
he cant even get fired for beating up elderly patients and stealing their drugs
well... at least your writing is improving I guess.
Ok then do it
dont let this thread die.
need to piss off some more murses.
nah its funny, i translated the op to another board and got over 200 replies
I can't find a single person who doesn't complain about nursoids
Literally, the only thing someone has to do, when they think a group of people are needlessly [insert complaint here], is dedicate time to that group's experience. The problem is you can't do it in a day. You need enough time to have it wear on you. ER's would be a great place for people to volunteer, but have it be a big city ER.
Also, show us your plan. explain exactly how AI can replace a nurse across the board. How can AI replace every nurse job.
Or if you really want to show people up, be your grandma's care taker. When you've wiped her ass for the 5th time come and talk to me about being a jaded murse. Frankly I think people who complain about nurses are assholes who think a nurse is a slave.
no you can't you dumb fucking retard. get off of your high horse.
Nurses should be required by law to suck a patient's penis dry. Sexual and medical relief should go hand in hand.