no, it will merely increase the already high barrier to entry
even now, junior positions expect fullstack webdevs with a degree and pay maybe 2x better than a warehouse worker
thankfully there's an abundance of free resources to learn from
not even Casanova wanted to chad around his whole life, he did the forest gump thing and just walked away from all that pussy. Some lessons can't be taught.
Pleasure and superiority.
2 things that might not be possible once meritocracy is made obsolete.
Unless if there emerges an underground society that is not advanced enough to have its own AIs.
only larping retards think this can actually replace programmers
it might increase efficiency and reduce demand, but then again the corps will probably shit it up too much and make it unusable
>you missed out
Wrong.
It balances itself out because the AI gets better, and the smartphones get better - zoomers become less and less technologically literate. All zoomers have boomer level knowledge about operating a computer, let alone anything more mentally tasking.
That means there are less workers and will be less competition for work spots in the future.
Probably the single best moment in history to actually seriously start learning programming. 2nd maybe but it will definitely be equivalent to dot com bubble at it's peak.
People will just ask the AI to code something for them, they don't even need to know how anything works. No need to hire programmers anymore. >inb4 AI is not good enough for this
Not yet but it will get better.
Even AI will need cheap labour to clean up it's shit. You VILL BECOME a Jannie for AI. You will sleep in the pod and eat ze bugs. You will sterilize yourself. You will take the estrogen pills.
There's no point, it's like trying to become a computer after the calculator was invented. I've come to the conclusion the ai will replace every job worth having so I'm just going to focus on my hobbies till I die, fuck learning pointless shit for corporations.
>What's the point of learning to code if AI will replace all programming jobs in less than a decade?
The same applies to all other jobs. Even in construction, AI-controlled robots will take hold quite fast and replace most workers quickly.
A brogramming job is just as good or bad as any other, so don't worry. If these jobs get replaced, all others will be replaced too.
>What's the point of learning to code if AI will replace all
Think of it like this, the AI will take control. You have limited time to get on the inside and add "don't kill fetish enjoyer".
From my observations it will only be a small percentage of people who will survive, probably some kind of religious cult.
how much time do you guys actually spend programming anyway? most of the job is meetings, planning, analysis so in that sense I think AI will become more of a tool than a direct replacement
This is a fud and a meme anon. I can't imagine a world where AI will successfully deploy a software in production, do DevOps or proper testing. Worst case scenario it remains a meme, best case scenario it becomes a good tool to create boilerplate and remove this cancer from your responsibilities. Don't be a pussy
If you think AI is going to replace all programming jobs in less than a decade then you've already been filtered and are too stupid to successfully become a good programmer anyway.
It seems like most people don't understand the limitations of Narrow AI, the lack of being able to reason being a huge one. Just give the bots a math problem that isn't just a direct calculation and watch it shit the bed.
AI will takeover everything. I wonder how colleges can even stay in business when so many people are coming to the same conclusion. Why is there no giant spike in trade schools? Robotics will take longer to get to the point AI is at for us right now.
>Why is there no giant spike in trade schools?
The progress of "AI" has accelerated relatively recently. I'll bet in a couple years there will be such a spike in less-automatable trades
Trade schools don't get you a wife, women date up and they look for income potential above everything else. That's a perceived attribute so whilst traddie can make more than a graduate student he won't be perceived that way
>Trade schools don't get you a wife, women date up and they look for income potential above everything else >blah blah blah
You have women dating criminal morons, dating fat slobs, and also just wasting themselves being whores on the internet or doing porn. Imagine thinking that women logically choose a partner. If you have to become a millionaire just to have a chance then it's already over for you.
So easy solution to this is to show them your bank account and wads of cash that the grad student will take forever to get and likely won't get it. Women will pick the cash in hand rather than the larper, easily.
It's kinda sad that before AI was a thing, everyone assumed it'd phase out manual labor and leave humans to primarily do intellectual work, but now that we're starting to make actually useful AIs it seems that intellectual work (programming, writing, research, art) is much easier to replace than manual work (construction, surgery (debatable), craftsmanship). Not because it "le owns the shitcoders" but because extensive use of AI to do the thinking for us will probably make people even dumber in the future.
I have a feeling someone saw this coming. That's why they push the tradie wagie bullshit. I'm not for one or the other, i'm just interested in what I can do and how much money I can make.
>Women will pick the cash in hand rather than the larper, easily.
Actually women care about income potential, not what you have in your bank account. Look it up
It's kinda sad that before AI was a thing, everyone assumed it'd phase out manual labor and leave humans to primarily do intellectual work, but now that we're starting to make actually useful AIs it seems that intellectual work (programming, writing, research, art) is much easier to replace than manual work (construction, surgery (debatable), craftsmanship). Not because it "le owns the shitcoders" but because extensive use of AI to do the thinking for us will probably make people even dumber in the future.
ChatGPT is good for writing boilerplate code, but beyond that it's limited in scope. It's going to make low-level tasks easier and it'll make engineers more efficient with menial tasks.
Same except I'm doing my degree in EE. What's stopping a chatbot reading the same material? What's stopping the chatbot from knowing the laws of physics to the degree I do? You can already design circuits using AI
Right. So malware won't become such an issue that people will be forced to learn programming in order to properly combat it?
Because that's about to happen big time. These github bots are merely going to be tools that allow us to work out how to maintain our pcs and machines.
Gone are the days when people thought AI and programs could handle everything. They handle things with the same general level of incompetence as people generally.
Hell we might see backtracks in infrastructure for the sack of it's integrity and functionality if new problems arise with malware. Power plants might lose their centralised workstations to a degree. Things really might go Fallout.
I made the prediction about 4-5 years ago that it will be high earning white collar workers on the chopping block rather than the truck drivers and blue collar workers. I remember being called a retarded gay back then and scoffed at, and now it's increasingly looking like people are coming around to see that I was right, I see more and more experts coming to the same conclusion as well.
What happened to Pharmacists will happen to every other white collar career being displaced, they'll just create bullshit mandatory jobs and regulations for them to prop up their industries. There's a secondary importance of the PMC in that it serves as a buffer between the peons and the elites.
I member thinking that too, I was a janitor and that shit required a lot of articulation >high paid data-based work done on computers >minimum wage work thatd require multiple complex robots with 9 hour batteries, technicians, energy, constant user input
hmm wonder what companies would have more incentive to replace
It's not just that, the average blue collar niggie works in a small business and not some megacorp. Your average carpet laying firm employing 10 people isn't going to get a half a million dollar loan for new intricate robotics that might replace half of one person's job. It'd take like 20-30 years to break even, it's why it has to happen on a large scale in large companies.
and those large companies are spending 90% of their resources trying to drive the small guys out of business. thousands closed within the last few years. i'm surprised some are still around.
So that AI doesn't kill you.
Machines never solve problems, they make more problems of a harder difficulty.
Luckily, machines won't just simply hivemind like in fantasy. There's clear indicators they have dissonance of logic in themselves, let alone with each other. So I guess that's a positive. It won't be just man v machine (infact man might become machine and machine might become like man - we are already seeing massive advances in prosthetics over the past few years because of the impact of covid on medical science and our thinking with it).
But anon.
The faster we program things automatically, the more bugs we get and the more malware we get. The more of these, then the more work there is that has to be done potentially by humans to check the integrity of the process.
For example:
We tried automating trains here in NW Australia. There are many many trains and train lines in the Pilbara for transporting iron ore to ports on the coastline. The distance is vast. The problems that can arise - many. One day, Rio Tinto, ignoring such obvious hiccups, decided it was ready to remove it's train staff and replace them with automated drivers. What happened following that was this. Trains would obviously malfunction eventually (in the Pilbara that is even more likely than normal given the rough terrain, 40+C heat, large cargo transported and the general degredation all of this does to both the train AND the tracks).
So what happened in the end to alleviate these issues? They decided to man a supervisor on the tracks every so often and they would be forced to truck it all the way out to the middle of nowhere with their crew in order to fix common issues that came up. What they discovered was that not only was it not effective cost wise with the auto system alone, but they had to pay ridiculous costs for people to maintain the equipment. AI worsened the transport situation in the pilbara through this awful implementation of it.
Now imagine that they also had to deal with robot terrorists that occasionally infiltrated property and blew up equipment, or that the tracks would occasionally shift at random without the impact of a flood/storm, etc.
That is the future of the implementation of AI in our system. All it did was create more sophisticated headaches and costs than there was to begin with. People made a living out of fixing those bugs. People will probably even make a killing MAKING those bugs.
Human programming will merely change, not vanish.
To make Linux better. What kind of cuck sells their soul to some corporation?
no, it will merely increase the already high barrier to entry
even now, junior positions expect fullstack webdevs with a degree and pay maybe 2x better than a warehouse worker
thankfully there's an abundance of free resources to learn from
this. huff some hopium like me and just study for obscene amounts of hours in hopes of one day being apart of the technocratic elite
do it because you love it. dumbass frogposter
What's the point of anything. Why get up in the morning?
I don't know.
my main motivation is a woman's love and especially sex with a woman. Without this there is literally no purpose to any man's life.
Nobody tell him
not even Casanova wanted to chad around his whole life, he did the forest gump thing and just walked away from all that pussy. Some lessons can't be taught.
incel
Pleasure and superiority.
2 things that might not be possible once meritocracy is made obsolete.
Unless if there emerges an underground society that is not advanced enough to have its own AIs.
To spent the time. To attempt and the attempted. How ever worse does that sound?
Why even?
if AI replaces all programming jobs, it will probably destroy the world anyway
it won't lol
Tick tock, programmer chud.
only larping retards think this can actually replace programmers
it might increase efficiency and reduce demand, but then again the corps will probably shit it up too much and make it unusable
yeah, it'll increase efficiency
but the amount of work / projects to be done will also increase
Efficiency is not even an issue, most firms do diversity hires, keep managers fat and have a small amount of nerds doing all the work anyway
>two more weeks, comrade, and the singularity will achieve Communism!
you can write your suicide note in Rust
the only thing AI is good for is nonsensical zoomer comedy twitch channels
What's the point in learning Math if you're a non-savant autisten who will never publish a groundbreaking paper 🙁
There is no point, you missed out bitch
>you missed out
Wrong.
It balances itself out because the AI gets better, and the smartphones get better - zoomers become less and less technologically literate. All zoomers have boomer level knowledge about operating a computer, let alone anything more mentally tasking.
That means there are less workers and will be less competition for work spots in the future.
Probably the single best moment in history to actually seriously start learning programming. 2nd maybe but it will definitely be equivalent to dot com bubble at it's peak.
People will just ask the AI to code something for them, they don't even need to know how anything works. No need to hire programmers anymore.
>inb4 AI is not good enough for this
Not yet but it will get better.
Even AI will need cheap labour to clean up it's shit. You VILL BECOME a Jannie for AI. You will sleep in the pod and eat ze bugs. You will sterilize yourself. You will take the estrogen pills.
There's no point, it's like trying to become a computer after the calculator was invented. I've come to the conclusion the ai will replace every job worth having so I'm just going to focus on my hobbies till I die, fuck learning pointless shit for corporations.
Learn coding, when Aí start taking our jobs, we will burn it down and kill every AI/ML shill and bring things back to 90s.
There is no point if AI will replace all programming jobs in less than a decade.
The question is, if this AI tech is capable of doing that. Which is actually doubtful.
>What's the point of learning to code if AI will replace all programming jobs in less than a decade?
The same applies to all other jobs. Even in construction, AI-controlled robots will take hold quite fast and replace most workers quickly.
A brogramming job is just as good or bad as any other, so don't worry. If these jobs get replaced, all others will be replaced too.
To make good money in the interim.
>What's the point of learning to code if AI will replace all
Think of it like this, the AI will take control. You have limited time to get on the inside and add "don't kill fetish enjoyer".
From my observations it will only be a small percentage of people who will survive, probably some kind of religious cult.
how much time do you guys actually spend programming anyway? most of the job is meetings, planning, analysis so in that sense I think AI will become more of a tool than a direct replacement
anon programming is the only good part of the job. You really want the only nice part to go away so you can spend more time in pointless meetings?
I never worry about this, because I can get any degree in a few years. Maybe stop being a brainlet.
This is a fud and a meme anon. I can't imagine a world where AI will successfully deploy a software in production, do DevOps or proper testing. Worst case scenario it remains a meme, best case scenario it becomes a good tool to create boilerplate and remove this cancer from your responsibilities. Don't be a pussy
If you think AI is going to replace all programming jobs in less than a decade then you've already been filtered and are too stupid to successfully become a good programmer anyway.
It seems like most people don't understand the limitations of Narrow AI, the lack of being able to reason being a huge one. Just give the bots a math problem that isn't just a direct calculation and watch it shit the bed.
>less than a decade
In the immediate 3 years more like. It's over for code monkeys 🙁
>frog poster
>retarded tourist that doesn't understand anything about dev work
yep, checks out.
There is no point. Stay out.
AI will takeover everything. I wonder how colleges can even stay in business when so many people are coming to the same conclusion. Why is there no giant spike in trade schools? Robotics will take longer to get to the point AI is at for us right now.
>Why is there no giant spike in trade schools?
The progress of "AI" has accelerated relatively recently. I'll bet in a couple years there will be such a spike in less-automatable trades
Trade schools don't get you a wife, women date up and they look for income potential above everything else. That's a perceived attribute so whilst traddie can make more than a graduate student he won't be perceived that way
>Trade schools don't get you a wife, women date up and they look for income potential above everything else
>blah blah blah
You have women dating criminal morons, dating fat slobs, and also just wasting themselves being whores on the internet or doing porn. Imagine thinking that women logically choose a partner. If you have to become a millionaire just to have a chance then it's already over for you.
So easy solution to this is to show them your bank account and wads of cash that the grad student will take forever to get and likely won't get it. Women will pick the cash in hand rather than the larper, easily.
I have a feeling someone saw this coming. That's why they push the tradie wagie bullshit. I'm not for one or the other, i'm just interested in what I can do and how much money I can make.
>Women will pick the cash in hand rather than the larper, easily.
Actually women care about income potential, not what you have in your bank account. Look it up
It's kinda sad that before AI was a thing, everyone assumed it'd phase out manual labor and leave humans to primarily do intellectual work, but now that we're starting to make actually useful AIs it seems that intellectual work (programming, writing, research, art) is much easier to replace than manual work (construction, surgery (debatable), craftsmanship). Not because it "le owns the shitcoders" but because extensive use of AI to do the thinking for us will probably make people even dumber in the future.
ChatGPT is good for writing boilerplate code, but beyond that it's limited in scope. It's going to make low-level tasks easier and it'll make engineers more efficient with menial tasks.
Same except I'm doing my degree in EE. What's stopping a chatbot reading the same material? What's stopping the chatbot from knowing the laws of physics to the degree I do? You can already design circuits using AI
There's no future or hope for me in this field.
Right. So malware won't become such an issue that people will be forced to learn programming in order to properly combat it?
Because that's about to happen big time. These github bots are merely going to be tools that allow us to work out how to maintain our pcs and machines.
Gone are the days when people thought AI and programs could handle everything. They handle things with the same general level of incompetence as people generally.
Hell we might see backtracks in infrastructure for the sack of it's integrity and functionality if new problems arise with malware. Power plants might lose their centralised workstations to a degree. Things really might go Fallout.
... I am ok with this.
I wonder if there will be a modern equivalent of Luddites where disenfranchised code monkeys go around and burn down data centers.
BOT is filled with neoluddites, it's only a matter of time.
I made the prediction about 4-5 years ago that it will be high earning white collar workers on the chopping block rather than the truck drivers and blue collar workers. I remember being called a retarded gay back then and scoffed at, and now it's increasingly looking like people are coming around to see that I was right, I see more and more experts coming to the same conclusion as well.
What happened to Pharmacists will happen to every other white collar career being displaced, they'll just create bullshit mandatory jobs and regulations for them to prop up their industries. There's a secondary importance of the PMC in that it serves as a buffer between the peons and the elites.
I member thinking that too, I was a janitor and that shit required a lot of articulation
>high paid data-based work done on computers
>minimum wage work thatd require multiple complex robots with 9 hour batteries, technicians, energy, constant user input
hmm wonder what companies would have more incentive to replace
It's not just that, the average blue collar niggie works in a small business and not some megacorp. Your average carpet laying firm employing 10 people isn't going to get a half a million dollar loan for new intricate robotics that might replace half of one person's job. It'd take like 20-30 years to break even, it's why it has to happen on a large scale in large companies.
and those large companies are spending 90% of their resources trying to drive the small guys out of business. thousands closed within the last few years. i'm surprised some are still around.
Programming is dying.
Maybe two years and robots will replace us.
whats the point of breathing or eating if were just gonna die some day? to enjoy life while it lasts
dumb fr*gmoron
So that AI doesn't kill you.
Machines never solve problems, they make more problems of a harder difficulty.
Luckily, machines won't just simply hivemind like in fantasy. There's clear indicators they have dissonance of logic in themselves, let alone with each other. So I guess that's a positive. It won't be just man v machine (infact man might become machine and machine might become like man - we are already seeing massive advances in prosthetics over the past few years because of the impact of covid on medical science and our thinking with it).
>less than a decade
Confirmed for having not seen SOTA. Less than 2 years, max. Shit is getting real at speeds I can't even wrap my head around.
But anon.
The faster we program things automatically, the more bugs we get and the more malware we get. The more of these, then the more work there is that has to be done potentially by humans to check the integrity of the process.
For example:
We tried automating trains here in NW Australia. There are many many trains and train lines in the Pilbara for transporting iron ore to ports on the coastline. The distance is vast. The problems that can arise - many. One day, Rio Tinto, ignoring such obvious hiccups, decided it was ready to remove it's train staff and replace them with automated drivers. What happened following that was this. Trains would obviously malfunction eventually (in the Pilbara that is even more likely than normal given the rough terrain, 40+C heat, large cargo transported and the general degredation all of this does to both the train AND the tracks).
So what happened in the end to alleviate these issues? They decided to man a supervisor on the tracks every so often and they would be forced to truck it all the way out to the middle of nowhere with their crew in order to fix common issues that came up. What they discovered was that not only was it not effective cost wise with the auto system alone, but they had to pay ridiculous costs for people to maintain the equipment. AI worsened the transport situation in the pilbara through this awful implementation of it.
Now imagine that they also had to deal with robot terrorists that occasionally infiltrated property and blew up equipment, or that the tracks would occasionally shift at random without the impact of a flood/storm, etc.
That is the future of the implementation of AI in our system. All it did was create more sophisticated headaches and costs than there was to begin with. People made a living out of fixing those bugs. People will probably even make a killing MAKING those bugs.
Human programming will merely change, not vanish.