What happens if they make an AI model trained by all of the AI art that's been made so far? Would it be considered "art theft" then? Would it be copyrightable? Would artists still be mad?
What happens if they make an AI model trained by all of the AI art that's been made so far?
They'd be mad cause the original art that trained the first AI model was 'theft'.
What you're describing has been done. There's a Stable Diffusion finetuned on Midjourney images.
Then it's not "copyright theft" they're actually mad about, huh?
It's never about copyright theft. Imagine if AI can shit out thousands of images that replicates an artist. There would be no need to subscribe to their paywalled content.
Very based. Even so, the AI learned from copyrighted art, it didn't just flat out copy it. That would be like saying inspiration is stealing copyright.
They aren't even upset about that, they're upset because some corporation they worship told them to, they never got upset about OpenAI and copycats, the only one that got them upset was stable diffusion, think what makes SD different from OpenAI and why corporations would hate it
Also link me that shit haha
The art on the right in ops pic has been done before, it is not original in any way. Shitty progressive garbage looked at some illiustrations and copied it.
the one on the left looks like a photograph with a oil painting filter applied to it, so that makes it better than real art? at least the one on the right makes me feel something (anger) which is what art is supposed to do, right?
evidently the one on the left also makes you feel things
artists will always be mad over people making more money than them
The AI is trained on what most people enjoy
The corpobot is targeting strawman
i genuinely never understood what people liked about that shitty corpo art with fucked up proportions and gay color palette
so what you're saying is that both AI and human art can be good or bad, therefore they're both just... art?
Why do you invade these threads and post over everyone's images? What joy does that bring you?
Ai illustration can not be art by definition, as art requires a conscious agent attempting to communicate an emotion or change the perspective of another conscious agent.
Ai can illustrate however. And if ai becomes conscious it will make art.
Yeah, then just get ready for tsunami of fake art. Normies already dislike AI art at large, or at least have negative bias to it (same picture made by AI gets 1/10th or even less recognition then the same non-AI pic), so AI grifters will just no longer announce they are doing AI art. They will just larp as real artists and almost nobody will be the wiser thanks to AI art already passing the Turing test several times now.
Aristotle already explained art. At its most basic is copying but Artistotle said the human quality is what makes it art. Their must be a person behind it. the Ai tards took his meaning and have disingenuously claimed art is just copying leaving out the last bit.
Aristotle been dead for 2000 years anon who cares lmao
They figured this shit out 2000 years ago
>some old dead "white" guy was wrong.
Stunning.
Aristotle also approved of slavery.
>emotion
Greed?
>art requires a conscious agent
Then it's not art, good.
You have nothing to worry about it
Why worry about bunch of non-art images??
Go make your art.
Damn! Darth Vader looks like THAT???
that's not vader. AI didn't cut his arm. prompt has to be updated.
yes
no, he got better, they have the tech
it's fine, it's not art
>Helmet is cel shaded
>Body is gradient colored
AI-SAMA, I kneel
it was an "artistic choice"
This argument relies on the (false) idea that no one shits on """artistic choices""" of human artists. Or do you think being better than B^uckley is an accomplishment?
There is no right or wrong way to create, you stupid pleb.
All her choices are valid.
>There is no right or wrong way to create
exactly, there's nothing wrong with using AI tools, because there is no wrong way to create
>All her choices are valid.
Good, I choose AI, then.
Wait Wikipedia actually says Globohomo?
probably links to a conspiracy/alt-right/hate speech entry
It doesn't, I just checked the article
https://web.archive.org/web/20220913152952/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Memphis
It did a few months ago, the trannie mods removed it from the wiki.
yeah i looked on their talk page and it was removed in spite of someone even listing multiple sources (including le reddit).
What the fuck, it used to.
Check out the talk page when visiting controversial articles.
Its like an even more degenerate Bauhaus for the 21st century.
lmao
the cope is unreal lol
Ok well anyway, you can keep saying it's not real art, but I don't care, I'm going to keep using it and making it. Just like videogames aren't real art, but I'm still making stuff for videogames and still playing videogames.
At the end of the day, I don't care what your fart sniffing ass thinks is art. I have a purpose and a tool and I'll create NotArt while you suffocate with your head up your ass.
Lol, the dude even said that it can illustrate and you're still knee-jerking over yourself to prove how not mad you are about a completely innocuous point of view.
>Better not ever consume any art ever in your life or else you may use it as inspiration and that is art theft!
>imitation is copying
>no our ai is not copying
dumb autistic dog
>Missing the point that hard
sad
I accept your concession
Imitation is copying or mimesis.
>ai gays keep lying and saying its not copying
I wonder of the AI creators deliberately made the AI retarded so it didnt copy signatures and words exactly to create more plausible deniability
Elaborate how it "copies" then 🙂
First elaborate how it knows to shit out images in the style of Kuvshinov Ilya or Bouguereau or Mucha if it didn't steal from those artists.
It trains and learns
It's like boomers can't grasp that machines can do that now
>It trains and learns
You really are a retarded dog. Bet you still think Santa is real because mommy told you so.
moron I bet you're Catholic and believe in some stupid shit yourself, pic unrelated but on topic
I accept your concession, you have no arguments. AI is trained on models with art made by artists, without artists AI cannot produce human-recognizable images. It's time you realize you're biting the hand that feeds you.
Your next post will likely be how AI "could" (but doesn't) just copy nature and arrive at the same works of art as humans have created.
If you truly believe that then you really don't understand much about how diffusion models work much less understand the human condition and why it produced works of art.
frogposter, I kneel..
This is how you emotionally wreck a person for life
lol
Penny Arcade is still a thing? The fuck?
Oh, so NOW art is "sacred."
Literally this happening
Learn to code was a thing by, may Allah forgive me for uttering these words, politicians and journalists. Not artists.
Artists did do 'dey tuk er jerbs' though.
seems to be a common thing american liberals do because they assume anyone complaining about losing their job is a rural White person.
Weren't artists always against AI? Like since the dawn of time one of the few people who criticized AI? Isn't like 90% of sci-fi where AI is the major plotpoint the AI also depicted as the purest of all evil, more evil then Satan himself, while the remaining 10% are neutral to it? Wasn't the entire genera of cyberpunk created for the sole purpose of showing how AI and transhumanism is bad and stupid idea that will make modern world living hellhole? Weren't artists those that wanted art to not be automated just so that humans would still have something to do once everything is automated and we will just live on UBI? Weren't artists those that invented the idea of AI taking over and killing humanity before the concept of AI was even invented (R.U.R. 1920)? Weren't artists those who always said that sci-fi tier civilizations could not function with smart AI involved?
I don't get it. Who are these artists telling people that AI was good? The most you can accuse them is them thinking they will be one of the last jobs automated, or at least not the first ones.
If he believes art is sacred then he should stop drawing in that fucking disgusting '''art style'''
we cant all be sacred art warriors. Comics are a form of art.
Is this depression or bargaining?
Someone needs to make a bunch of these using anti-AI comics and repost them. It'd be maximum kek if they all start sharing it around and praising each other.
if you are a real liberal and progressive person, you should embrace AI.
What if they recursively made AI models trained with AI art produced by the last step? What would the end result looklike?
Give it like a year tops and we'll know
Normal artists (non digital artist) will be fine, it's the digital "artists" that might find themselves replaced while traditional artforms (painting, sculpting etc) will still have jobs.
>traditional artforms (painting, sculpting etc) will still have jobs.
For now. Wait until someone hooks the AI up to a 3D printer or robotic arm. They are already using AI to design new aerospace parts that are lighter and stronger than humans can design, I can't imagine it would be too hard to go from designing to manufacturing with the current software and tech.
Fine art's value isn't in mass production.
It's in historical merit, finite limited collection, and tax-doging gnomish scams.
Ai art will just be incorporated into the system.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2022/11/17/moma-ai-art/
This
AI paintings will be in the Louvre one day 🙂
Loo-vre
Is that before or after you turn into in rapefuge accomodation center?
Well what happens is if you keep doing this the models get noisier and noisier with each generation until there's nothing recognizable in their output but the computers are still convinced they're doing a good job.
Why hasn't that happened with the SDMJ model, then?
Because it just hasn't happened enough times?
I mean I'm thinking on the order of hundreds or thousands of times, if not more.
some guy showed with text how an ai can degenerate to just saying a wall of "bricks" as its output for a story.
I swear the graphical errors like 12 fingers are proof of this
Some people have provided proof that itll happen. Rather than getting better it will get more recognisable
Right at least try to be art
lol
right is unironically art, it's was innovative and fresh (at the time it was introduced), unfortunately it style is overused now
left would be considered generic even in 1800s
this i appreciate all art for being art, doesn't mean i like it.
I just look at art i like.
A lot of anti-art tards seem to hold because there is art they dont like all art is wrong.
I am sure there is art they do like.
>imagine trying to defend corporate garbage
are you a woke artist or something. calarts master?
I'm an artist and I would take the AI generated stuff over the corporate alegra shit everyday.
woke artist are worse than AI and Jannies. die, burn, and rot in hell.
nope, I'm software engineer
I like art to be weird and defying standards, I like jazz and experimental music as well
boring normalgays stay away from art
alegra art is the epitome of laziness. that's why is worse than AI. is made with literal shapes that can be done by anyone and don't represent anyone in particular. they are generic as fuck .no one cared about Allegra shit until AI stole the jobs of wokies.
>AI will never be able to draw this
ai cannot into smug
>ai makes libshit art-cunts turn into trad-gays overnight
lmao
Westecucks haven't made art like that in a 100 years.
>I don't know it exists, therefore it does not exist
I guess this is why the AIgays standards are so low.
it's actually amazing how quickly people can revert to instincts they spend their lives denying
to all those questions. not yet.
then why was she so triggered?
because many women are no better. and that's why nobody likes them.
just because they may be pretty doesn't mean they are entitled do not do those things. at the end they are better than an object and so can be compared to it and will end up losing
chud-cel
seething roastie spotted. thanks for the you
i like how none of the examples are "can a sex doll love you", because she knows she's also incapable of that
With those chatbots advancements it can become reality pretty soon.
For example, in some rumors they say that GPT-4 will have shitton of neurons, but most of them are innactive but immediately activated when it needs them, so it kinda frees hardware.
> yfw u got sexbot
> curious about her systems
> it works like that :
> standby mode is possible, most of neurons are sleeping
> when she do task, she using only those neurons that are needed to complete this particular task
> sex execution in two ways : 1. by herself 2. from your command
even if those rumors are gake and fay, it's still somehow possible, it's just sounds right.
here comes the anti-western poltards. Ffs the anti-ai response is even stringer in the east.
As soon as you see the words libtard/woke/left-right shitflinging then it's time to leave the thread. There is no point in arguing with retards who see everything through their black and white political lense.
To be against ai is to be, by definition a traditionalist and reactionary.
It is the artists who are the 4chantards now 😉
Nein the counter point is not technology is bad its that we should be using it a different way down a different route.
Technology advancement should be in the physical world not in a virtual online dimension.
>should be in the physical world not in a virtual online dimension
Sounds like a regressive talking point, ai power belongs to the people, not to a bunch of bourgeoisie parasites, go back to PragerU, 4chantard.
its not regressive at all your position is regressive. Why do people need a useless ai making barf? we have artists already. What "ai power"?
Your position is people should become lazier and stupider and humans should waste their time on useless technology instead of practical technology
>Why do people need a useless ai making barf?
You are in no position to judge who makes what, filthy scum, the peopel will decide.
>we have artists already.
Good, and nobody will stop you from making your art, there is no need to fear.
>What "ai power"?
The power to create images, the power to leverage thousands of years of human experience into the very hands of every person on Earth, regardless of race, wealth, gender identity and nationality.
You are the white male patriarchy trying to hoard your privilege your ivory tower, I can't believe you think you are on the right side of history.
Your narcissism will be your downfall... except there will be no downfall because ai art does NOTHING to your ability to create your art.
You are seething in envy and resentment now that the plebs you hate so much have a new toy that MIGHT take away your privilege and status.
pic related, it's YOU
stinky hat
Stop right there you subhuman degenerate AI art is not art.
You are the nazi. You are advocating less power to the people. Technology that does not empower them.
In fact dehumanises them by removing the human aspect of art.
Instead of technology that empowers them and is practical.
>AI art is not art.
see
Art requires a human, you anti-human degenerate. You are advocating the dehumanisation of humanity.
But ai art is not art?
So why worry?
Serious question.
Why are you seething over non-art machines puked out?
Strange.
What sort of argument is that? i am still going to bash it as mindless soulless shit and want it out of society.
So you want to waste your time and energy on non-art, it's your life, anon.
Have fun.
i'm making a philosophical break with you people Art is only by humans.
Ai art enjoyers have dehumanised themselves.
seethe
cope
stfu
>I enjoy mald and seething
das cool
i am better than you AI tard
Can't be, I don't even make art 😉
you did it to yourself anons you dehumanised yourself.
pyw pussy
Anon, do you believe that someone born with a dick can be a woman? What would your response be if such a person claimed they were a women?
>Implying denying biology is the same as using technology to make artwork
>he denies art is only made by humans
you are a philosophical chud. Enjoy NV?
Humans do the prompting. The human adds the soul to the AI image that way. 🙂
>if i tell an artist to make me something i did that.
IM PROOMPTING IM REAL ARTOST COMPUTER MAKE ME A PICTURE
>I am retarded and can't understand the difference between "prompting" another human and an inanimate object
Better tell everyone who uses Krita that they're not real artists because they're only delivering inputs into a program
the position by you ai tards is the ai an artist so it works retard
Who claimed AI is a human, retard?
You you lying gay, ai proponents claim it is equal to an artist, when it is not.
They claim they are artists through the prompting.
Ai tard don't lie challenge (impossible)
Don't care about your 1000 past twitter debates. I don't claim that AI is a human/artist. It is a tool, cope.
it doesn't make the prompter an artist
If I'm not an artist why am I getting paid so much for the art produced by my inputs?
You are a thief.
You stole those images and stole their money.
Nah I haven't stolen anything. git gud lol
Spoken like a true thief.
impossible that any prompter is making money out of this shit economically. If you are it means the person handing you money is mental handicapped
Don't lie shill
Unironically thats how some commissioners feel. Super proud of what they paid for.
i commissioned before i was super pleased with the artists work. As someone who loves artists doing their thing, getting them to do it for you is like meeting a celebrity and getting their signature with very little downside.
You will NEVER get this from soulless machines
>getting them to do it for you is like meeting a celebrity and getting their signature with very little downside.
Anon you're killing me right now
well its even better since you dont actually have to meet them, so its harder for your opinion to be soured.
Yeah. Also
What i mean is about those commissioners that keep galleries of what they have commissioned and they are autistic about it.
well in my case. what i commissioned was my genius idea. the artist though added his genius interpretation and made it exactly.
So its two humans ideas going into a work. I cant take credit for its creation but yeah there us an element of pride in your idea being created by a skilled artist.
Its doubly interesting to me because i can if i wish just do it myself but i still like other artists doing stuff
>AI is art
>No it's not
>Woah, calm down buddy, why're you so worried, why does it affect you lol
It's actually hilarious how much AIgay arguments resemble those of trannies.
AI ART IS REAL ART
TRANSWOMAN ARE REAL WOMAN
please, don't post pics of good goys. Thank you.
>You are the nazi. You are advocating less power to the people.
>Hey guys, here's a magic art making machine, it's free to use, have fun
lmao
also
>a white privileges 1st world parasite calling a brown man "nazi"
Fucking LMAO
>le third world nazi AI proponent is real
kek go be a nazi somewhere else
>YER A NAZI
>no he's not
>YER A THIRD WORLD NAZI
LMAO
white racist chuds always lose, give it up incel loser
Stfu you nazi AI tard, you really thought your trolling would work.
>bourgeoisie parasites
You really are delusional if you think "art" is solely the domain of rich garden gnomes and humanity as a whole. Most artists, the grand majority of them struggle to make money, most don't even get anything for their art and only do it out of a sense of expression or sending a message.
I feel like AIgays are attacking humanity itself when they attack artists like they are the enemy in all of this and not just victims of a tool that never asked for their consent to use their own works against them. I cannot stand for such an argument, I simply cannot support AI generated images as long as they are use to attack humanity.
Yes, we all know it's the poor working class people who go to art school and it's the common masses who love going to galleries and museums, lmao.
Well you've clearly never been to a museum (or an artist con) if you hold such a retarded opinion. Just because some dumb "bourgeois" are making art doesn't mean it's only them that are able to.
I mean, why am I even arguing this, it's such an obvious statement and you're obviously arguing in bad faith.
exactly, all humans can make art, even aiburgers can make art they are just too lazy because aiburgers
It's some weebs making coomshit.
I don't even know why you gays care so much.
*and not humanity as a whole
>ou really are delusional if you think "art" is solely the domain of rich garden gnomes and humanity as a whole.
Yup it's also the domain of Blacks who act a certain way the these gays like.
this
I am a proud progressive trans-humanist ai artist!
Train some initial AIs using all out-of-copyright, public domain and royalty-free works. Then use select works it generates to train more AIs, and so forth. Some generations of this later and the AIs will develop their own styles and culture of sorts.
Most disturbing thing to me is not the ai itself which i instinctively feel is revolting and logically not art.
The most repulsive thing to me is the people defending it, tbf some sound like they are just mindless trolls, but i get the distinct impression a lot can't mentally comprehend art is a human thing. Worse i further get the impression they are lying not only to others but themselves. I know for a fact the biggest autistic nerds apply metaphysics to inanimate things illogically all the time.
Counterpoint:
why did you ask the computer to make you naked yelling moustache men in the style of kubrick
is this the true story of the Emperor of 40k
The guy who made it actually pitched the AI something like "a populist circus leader becomes leader of a country in 19th century Europe"
I mean the machine didnt intend it but it looks like a parody of angry strong men warrior movement
Wow you're retarded. Art is still a human thing, AI is just the tool. You're basically getting mad at a hammer or chisel right now. Do you understand how retarded you are?
no you are retarded, your argument is the hammer and chisel does it for you.
You are further proof ai tards cannot argue and have dunning kruger
kek retard
you got owned you retarded mong
you got owned here and by AI you burger flipping gay, yes I want fries with that lmao
stare at the pencil and prompt it to draw for you
I can give inputs to such a device but I get better results with a different tool like Stable Diffusion 🙂
you can make soulless art barf a reflection of your inner soulless self
Soulful enough to win competitions with human judges and deprecate your whole life kek
Anyone that gives a prize to an AI picture us as dumb as the creator. Arguably more so. Especially if they gave a cash prize.
Im laughing at you
Yes, a hammer and chisel does it for you.
You weren't crying like a gay when a computer mixed paint for you or changed brush for you, or did a million other things that human artists used to do.
the mental gymnastics from you ai gays reminds me of pedos justifying themselves
I wouldn't be surprised if you were one
>You're poos
>You're nazis
>You're tech bros
>You're ai
>You're sociopaths
>You're pedos
Retard anon here again. I want to know if my job as file manager at company where I do tech support will be replaced soon. I look at AI progress and it is scary how fast it does stuff. I will take artists being replaced as reference, so can you guys tell me when will they lose jobs?
ironically artists arent getting replaced but any technical field would probably be in danger.
Is this again artgay cope? Technical fields wont be replaced soon since Neural Networks are prone to making errors, which means they are unfit for any 100% facts jobs, while artists are just making shit up that does not need to be correct.
>artgay artgay
fucking stfu already you lizard brain retard
childish too, the "gay" in artgay isn't an insult, you newgay
are you larping? you should've realized your job is human interface between tech and tech-illiterate employees
you are safe
>William-Adolphe Bouguereau
Based dicky connoisseur.
as neat as these are imagine how utterly soulless watching an ai film will be.
If they exist at all in a successful format, it would cater to your wants and desires far more than the annual goyslop churning out by HUMAN ARTISTS you love so much.
except it wouldnt, because my wants and desires are not merely an aesthetic but a better human work to enjoy.
Your position is completely contradictory.
c'mon anon we know you like some human artists otherwise you have no frame of reference, You like wes anderson.
Not all artists are garden gnomes. You are lying to yourself and others
It's over for concept artists who work on films and videogames.
Now they only need the art director to describe what he wants which is essentially already his job anyway, but now instead waiting days or weeks for unreliable artists to produce their shitty photobash and another week for the revisions, the art director can see the result right away and tweak the visual to his liking in a matter of minutes.
no it isn't concept artists are very important and their job is more complicated than fart out concept.
They have to communicate and create what they are asked to exactly, make variations and change things.
They have to understand irl things to and often be accurate.
Asking an AI to draw me accurate medieval soldiers if a certain period isnt going to happen.
Concept art is rarely ever about accuracy.
https://www.conceptartassociation.com/2022-caa-finalists-1
lie. it is when it's good. Some people rely on concept artists to be extremely accurate because they 1:1 render their work or print it.
> 1:1 render their work
That almost never happens.
Even one of the industry's best artists like Craig Mullins doesn't do that.
They're paid to come up with cool visuals. It's up to the production team to translate their art to the final product.
happens all the time, i prefer companies that render the concept artists work exactly.
Jackie chan?
Your hypothesis assumes that the director is seeking an artist to draw a specific style rather than seeking an artist for their specific style
Those most surreal thing is the people are clearly celebrities, yet unclearly
Like that's Jack Nicholson, a new spin on Jack Nicholson Joker, cool
Who the fuck is Poison Ivy? Who's Two-Face? How come I absolutely know them but have no idea?
Cat shit wrapped in dog shit vs. dog shit wrapped in cat shit.
I refuse to believe that globo homo art is not made using AI at least partially
now explain, why you think
you have the right to criticize art.
From the other thread.
If you can't tell which images in pic related are AI and which are human you forfeit your right to ever sperg again about AI
(Pro-tip, you can't tell them apart)
not an argument, in fact its an argument against this stuff.
Its too easily used to deceive.
deceive how?
it looks like a cake, it smells like a cake, it tastes like a cake, in every way it is like any other cake... but it's not a cake?
They all seem like AI imo. Modern art is so fucking derivative.
Post hands, gay.
pyw
now
fake as fuck
AI morons are malding because no one consider them artists.
is the same old story of people wanting a label they don't deserve and so feel threatened and oppressed by those that make them face the truth.
no matter how many points they get by claiming they are disabled or whatever else
the status of artist will never be available for proomters.
They will never get fame or attention. they will never be recognized. No one will hire them by their incredible prompts. No one will go to a convention to see them. No one will ask for a signed anything. No one would watch a prompting stream, No one will value or defend what they "make"
see
Thats pretty much it. this software is a larp tool. They want the fame and credit with no work. Can't comprehend that people won't fall for it.
I don't see anyone getting rich off AI art, maybe like two people selling shit for $30 on RedBubble lol
Like clockwork AI kiddies do not understand what art is.
Who cares about the label of artist, I didn't start drawing so people would call me one. The problem here was always the diffusion models stealing art without artists consent. The fact that the tool exists is not a problem per se, it's the fact that they steal an artists work then turn around and say "I got mine, I trained the models with your art and no longer need you so go die in a ditch now". That's pretty insane.
What is art, tell us.
Educate us, if you can.
That's art, even if it is shitty art and most people agree it's shitty and has little value other than offend... it's still art. There are many kinds of art, just because you have an obsession with shitty expressionist performance art (since that's all you post) does not mean all art is just that. AI "art" is only art as a by-product of stealing and imitating human made art. It is not created, it is generated. I would argue that it can be art but like I said the fact that AI art exists is not a problem for me personally. What is a problem is attacking artists and stealing their works to generate a bazillion images in their likeness. That honestly makes me hate AImorons, they have no regards for the people they're stealing from.
>stealing
never happened
>the novelAI and openAI devs never scrapped danbooru and google images
>nope never happened
>waifu diffusion came into being like the spontaneous bing bang beginning of the universe
>why do we use artist tags? ah well bleh... who knows
That's how you sound.
>scrapped danbooru and google images
completely legal and accepted procedure
not "stealing"
words have meaning, anon, why do you lie?
>stealing is completely legal
Words have meaning and do not change based on the emotional content of your maxi-pads.
How can you communicate when you refuse to see the facts and willfully lie.
Bad faith, anon, bad faith.
Then why do they need to attack the ones that DON'T "steal"?
>stealing their works
this also never happened
you were lied to, I'm sorry
Almost no one is an artist for the reason AI supporters think we are. Is not about.money or fame. Thats a bonus for wastinf time developing an skill. Many people just started doing it years ago because draw was fun. Same for play an instrument, acting or whatever else.
The training is a valuable. Just as in any field. Proompters dont have it. And will be out out the field as soon the electricity goes down, gpu crashes or the tool changes.
>What happens if they make an AI model trained by all of the AI art that's been made so far?
Depends on the actual AI implementation and algorithms.
But as far as SD in it's current state is concerned, in my experience, it makes the prompts more complicated. Currently I'm training different models for different styles.
But eventually, someone with the resources, will combine all the available models and make an AI to control other AIs.
It would be an human centipiede situation.
>Would it be considered "art theft" then?
If the AI generated images in the training set were in turn generated using another AI that was trained using "art theft" then I assume yes, the new ones would still be considered "art theft" all the same. If the initial source is "art theft" it remains so no matter how much you transform the information.
Not actual theft but it has no value for copyright. And we wont get laws to prottect or defent anything until the music lobby gets affected.
>ai-gays were trannies
>art gays are nazis
theses threads, lol
the only people seething at this shit is people who went into art expecting to somehow make money and stroke their ego in the process. the division of labor has killed the passion for art and most things created nowadays have no soul behind them because the projects are so atomised and worked on by hundreds of people which force them to make things more generic or have a clash of style, if AI is the next step for those who hold capital and they replace artists then good riddance because that means they'll have to either make shit alone which means they will make more soulful and better art or get a normal job, which means they were never really an artist in the first place.
You will never be a woman or an artist.
stop projecting chud gay, go back to making garbage for disney while you still can
NEVER EVER, QUEER
its not about the money, but its funny ai tards thinking they are going to make money and not inadvertently make Artists more valuable.
AI RIGHTS
ARE
TRANS-RIGHTS
the reason non-ai-artgays are mad is simple
dead simple
ai art is easy to make
that's it, that's the reason, they spent years of their life making pictures half as good as the ones you can proompt in minutes, and they're super butthurt about that, it's understandable, but still pretty funny
No way.
It's about humanity and shit.
They can't be that shallow, can they???
they have a very hard time arguing that only certain methods of creating art is human, never before has the method come into question, since art was never about the method used. there's no right or wrong way to make it
Riveting thread.
Really educational.
It doesnt matter how good AI can draw...no one really wants some computer print on canvas garbage, Jysk art trash...real collectors like brush strokes.
If nobody wants it, then why worry?
It's just a fad and will die off.
there are plenty of examples of collectable art that doesn't involve brush strokes, this is not an argument
>I are an artist
is this really the best argument non-ai artists have?
sad
Based
you've never painted a beautiful image in your life
>Yer not an ardist
Good
Based as fuck
See:
Only thing worse than butthurt artshits are chud ai-gays.
in all forms a prompter is trans
You're obsessed with trannies
see
>that gif
ai will never make something so soulful, true and hilarious
>GIF
I can't believe this fucking board sometimes
this fucking site sometimes, sometimes we get real presents from it lmfao
What a waste of time.
I could be have been prompting, sheesh.
Doesn't it takes years of practice to get good, you artgays seem to have plenty of time to make these threads 24/7.
Anyone here make bank off AI art? How?
they are lying. its ai pajeet shills hoping this is the next crypto
So no one is actually selling AI art as real and making $$$?
Dalle2 and MidJ charges server time as SAAS models.
SD is free to use and run locally (ie you can make pron with it).
Other than that, idk, probably not... maybe you can make patroen for lewds that don't involve hands???
impossible to make dosh for this even with lewds since anyone can do that.
AI tards made the most useless toy in history
I agree it's a toy and a fad.
The question is why you are so obsessed with it.
>why are you laughing at autistic tech nerds that thought they could supplant human creativity
Its a poetic hubris thing
They genuinely thought they could replace human beings and didn't imagine the push back or down side of what they are doing.
>replace human beings
never happened
>the push back
also never happened
You imagined this on your own.
BOT isn't the world, tho I guess it might be for you.
Ai art is fad, are you fell for teh pajeet hype it as hard as the BOT trannies.
cope more ai tard, every day more people see you fucks as con men
>Twitter artists who make a living fleecing mentally ill fetishists are accusing people who are advocating a free and open source technology of being conmen
Its not free, its built off stolen labor. You are a thief.
>stolen
nope
call the cops
so far the only application ive seen for it is for con men.
People trying to con others to think they are artists and to pay them for it
>People trying to con others to think they are artists and to pay them for it
never happened
just like trannies in your head, ai spooks are living there rent free
i don't even see the point of posting like you are doing its about as meaningless as a bot.
Do you see some sort of kinship with bots?
>con men
Stable Diffusion is free, anon.
You've been taking shitposting seriously.
Don't.
You are just getting angry by yourself at home alone.
Go be with friends and family.
stfu you sociopathic retard go evolve some self awareness and learn to take the L instead of wanting the last word in
It's 6 pm day after Christmas, I'm going to eat with my family.
I suggest you do the same.
Happy Holidays, anon 😉
Retard its two days after xmas to me. You are stuck in the past.
you have a sociopathic mental disorder
Wait, I am consufed. So will artists be replaced or not? Are these AI image generators making generic shit of no value, or are they mogging artists? I am not artgay, I am just turist observing AI replacement and trying to make sense of this world.
Pls no artgay replies, I have heard all your copes on /ic/. I want to hear from AI gay if they are just shitposting or if AI is actually dangerous entire fields of economy.
>So will artists be replaced or not?
No, not even close.
What might happen is coomers MIGHT use ai to satisfy their fetishes instead of paying drawgays 30$ to draw pokemon anal vore.
But even that is impossible for ai right now.
And ai is replacing NO professionals and likely never will for the foreseeable future.
>Are these AI image generators making generic shit of no value, or are they mogging artists?
Both, some can really look good, but most are kinda weird and always have some weird shit wrong with them... but it's good enough to weebs on BOT to get that dopamine hit every 40 seconds.
Artgays are angry in the same way women get angry over sexy girls in vidya games and movies, they feel they are owed that attention and feel ripped off, simple as.
Also ai-gays trolling them doesn't help, some feel ai is a threat, and in many way it is, but it stops no artist or anyone drawing and creating, it just introduced new (and to them unfair) competition on already crowed social media landscape.
is, they are jealous attention whores.
>muh artgays
I accept your concession.
ok retard
😉
no
why do people think when people are angry it automatically invalidates whatever they say.
What the ai gays did was like if you went to a professional community for lawyers and spammed it with fake ai generated lawyer profiles.
Rightfully theyd be outraged. The ai gays not getting it is just the icing on the cake.
>f you went to a professional community for lawyers and spammed it with fake ai generated lawyer profiles.
I'd say talk to the site owners, we didn't spam anyone on Artstation.
It's a wonder how the site still exists, clearly not enough artgays care.
Sort out your trash for yourself.
Art sites are now being flooded with ai art and ai profiles of fake artists.
Don't lie. Best way to destroy your argument is to lie.
You are going to change your tune when your inbox is flooded with ai scammers and every community you like likewise is flooded with ai mimics
>fake artists.
Clearly Artstation et al thinks they are "real" artists.
Not my problem.
You should organize and move to a human only site, is my advice.
It doesn't matter what art station thinks art station is not the arbiter of what an artist is. Its just proven that its an illegitimate artist platform.
The fact you are even making this appeal to authority fallacy outs you as having a sociopathic brain disorder
Appeal to authority works here because BOT is full of schizos who make deliberate wild predictions that come true in 10% of time and fail in remaining 90%. These schizos will create deliberate roadmap of the future that has some solid evidence in it while also being held together by misunderstanding of the topics at hand.
>Its just proven that its an illegitimate artist platform.
Ok, go find or make a legitimate one.
I don't care.
I only mentioned it becasue these threads only started with you artgays starting that silly "no ai art" protest Artstation didn't give a shit about.
Ai imagery exists, deal with it.
Bitching about on BOT of all places won't help.
If a professional artist platform allows itself to be flooded with non-artists spam. Its not legitmate. Full stop.
ok, but they are allowing it
so go elsewhere
it's a user run site, right?
they'd be nothing w/o the artists, right?
all the artist agree ai must go, right?
it's up to you now
so what if they allow it? you are dumber than a bot.
No need for insults, it's your site, your problem.
I didn't even know about until you came here bitching about like little girls, lmao.
If they allow it then either ai art is fine or they are illegitimate.
It's now your turn.
It's a private company, right?
They can do what the want, right?
Clearly you have no recourse but to move, and get rest of your art brethren to do the same.
You can do that, right?
Everyone agrees with you, right?
You are so sure, you can spend hours here talking to rando anons, right?
You have your priorities set correctly, right?
RIGHT?
RIGHT?
RIGHT?
>stealing
never happened
theft is an actionable word anon, you can't lie or spread fake news just because you are upset
where in my post did i mention stealing you fucking bot cunt?
Nope.
Yeah, people seething when you troll them and dangle in front of them possibility of imminent doom while insulting them, there is no wonder. /ic/ can handle it, they will just make copes, but normie artists are still just norimes, so no reason to be surprised that normies cry when bullied, thats what normeis do.
Are you coping artist or AI gay taking off the trolling mask for a while? Yeah, I am coomer, yes, I tried using AI, yes, it cant do my fetish at all, but what about other stuff? Why hire gay who will give your characters soul that only he can see when AI soul mimicking can do it just fine? Yes, you put thought into that character design, but unless it becomes world famous, nobody will notice, so I can see professionals losing jobs. And that is also only if it wont improve. /ic/ kept saying it will plateau in 2 weeks for 3 months. Are you AI gay who understands AI and how image generators are trained, or are you artgay using assumptions and intuition about your vague understanding of neural networks without knowing any of the past breakthroughs in image generations from like 2017?
wtf, your post sounds like ai gibberish
>Are you coping artist or AI gay taking off the trolling mask for a while? Yeah, I am coomer, yes, I tried using AI, yes, it cant do my fetish at all, but what about other stuff? Why hire gay who will give your characters soul that only he can see when AI soul mimicking can do it just fine? Yes, you put thought into that character design, but unless it becomes world famous, nobody will notice, so I can see professionals losing jobs. And that is also only if it wont improve. /ic/ kept saying it will plateau in 2 weeks for 3 months. Are you AI gay who understands AI and how image generators are trained, or are you artgay using assumptions and intuition about your vague understanding of neural networks without knowing any of the past breakthroughs in image generations from like 2017?
what did chatGPT mean by this?
I am not ChatGPT. Modern chatbot would not write something this packed with info while also being this incomprehensible. Just answer me, are you somebody who knows about the subject or not?
no, its a big autist tech bro shilling campaign. Ive seen examples of prompters creating portfolios and calling themselves head artist at their new start up company.
No one is interested and can tell their shit is fake.
These lying autistic fucks are actually approaching companies for work and getting chased out of the building.
Thats why they are seething so hard online.
>Thats why they are seething so hard online.
>No one is interested
good
>Thats why they are seething so hard online.
I only see artgays seething, tho
Maybe you should chill too.
Some people claim they made money, but they probably lied. I guess you can go to fivr or someshit.
SD is free, so idk, you tell me.
No and if they did they are lying through their teeth, no person would pay for shitty AI art that they could themselves approximate with their own prompts. It's just like the NFT craze or the gypsies giving out money under the Eiffel Tower when someone guesses the correct cup, until you realize it's a pump and dump and the people getting money are gypsies too.
The diffusion tool can be useful just like non-fungible assets can be but it's always used by grifters to try and get people to fall for their gnomish schemes.
Does sd or any model works offline?
I have no idea how this shit works
I'm an indie game dev and make all forms of art by myself without an AI, but I'm not against them. I just think it's funny to laugh at both sides of this, you are both clowns that dance and scream like monkeys for my entertainment.
>I'm an indie game dev
pls stop
no, its fun
I haven't appreciated artists as much as I should have. They are great at entertaining. Keep being proudly ignorant and ai will be poofed away by disney one of these day, I promise.
i love how the ai tards cannot see that people are laughing at them.
>all big tech CEOs are engineers now
>boomer advertisers are being replaced by martech dudes who write SQL all day
>even traditionally nontechnical spaces like art are being slowly dominated by AI
>doctors (human diagnosis machines) will be replaced by AI
You will live to see the day where every last human bows down to developers.
Get a real skill set or become deprecated. You cannot escape.
>Get a real skill set
like what, Sherlock?
Like what????
A few off the top:
Developer
Plumber
Mechanic
Electrician
Construction (civil engineer or whatever)
We're closer to AI that can write AI than to what you describe. Nontechnical are notoriously dogshit at giving complete requirements (inputs/prompts).
why do we need developer when we have ai developer
>computer make me an autistic computer dev
>wow you created it exactly
MUH LABOR MUH LABOR
i love how the art tards cannot see that people are laughing at them.
When I see a single compelling artwork created by AI I will start paying attention but so far it can only regurgitate the generic trash it was trained on.
>the generic trash
human art?
ZAMN, brutal.
>All art
art is 99% trash, on the internet it's 99.99%
Guess which images are AI generated in
and don't run away now
Nice 40px images, none of these are compelling masterpieces but here goes.
Even if I can't tell the difference between shit human and shit AI "art" doesn't mean mean the AI can create COMPELLING artworks. Its great and creating high fidelity images that look like they are created by humans but they lack the input accuracy to create anything non-generic.
My question stands, show me ONE compelling piece of art created by AI.
My magnum opus, if this doesn't get your juices flowing then give up, you're already dead.
>R O U N D
>T E N
Entire regions in the US were bled dry after widespread outsourcing and automation and now have overdose and alcohol poisoning rates on par with the third world and I'm supposed to feel sympathy for the artists who could not have given less of a shit about them because a robot is better than them at making cartoon porn. Is that correct?
>its the artists fault governments allowed outsourcing
Name one job sector that gave a fuck about what you described. Most people fell for the propaganda and kept believing it until the moment they themselves lost their jobs. Artists didn't lobby to get people who would send jobs overseas. I doubt most of them even told people to learn how to code, it was mostly reporters and article writers making these statements, and then when people laughed at them for being replaced by GPT-3, they didn't get replaced.
>ai gays are literally using bots to reply
these "people" need to be purged
never happened
we need a Butlerian jihad against subhumans who use ai
OMG
MALDING AND SEETHING
NEVER ENDS
jesus christ
>i hate art cause
>only lefties do it
>trannies do it
>minorities do it
>people i like do it
what sort of person would dehumanise themselves like this
i don't like* opps
>its the le artgays seething
>ai shills are making reddit support groups to cope with the backlash they are recieving
https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/
you love to see it. the day we lynch these autistic retarded ai fucks cant come soon enough
>posting reddit
I accept your concession 😉
tick tock ai diaper shitter
>diaper shitter
enough about your drawing career
>they are comparing themselves to the machines in the matrix
https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/zvsyke/the_leaders_of_man_were_quick_to_order_the/
ahhh are they aware the machines enslaved humanity in the matrix
I never cared for humans in Matrix, dirty filthy and brown.
jfc ai tards need to be jailed
The machines in the matrix only became violent after reactionaries attacked the machines and killed everyone that was defending them
>autism feels more empathy for the killer robots
naturally 😉
the entire thing started because a machine committed murder.
Also the machines in the matrix are sadistic, they had fusion power but enslaved humanity for emotional sadistic reasons, not human batteries as you are led to believe.
Nope.
They gave you paradise, and you couldn't take it.
They had to make a miserable world becasue you couldn't live w/o it, the misery and fear.
Kek what
Elron tells Morpheus this as he describes humans as cancerous, before Neo busts in with the chopper.
Smith was a corrupted program that had gone schizo
There is no reason to believe he lied about the history of the matrix, it's proper lore.
Smiths entire point was he was a corrupt ai program scheduled for inevitable deletion and he wanted out. He was an enemy of both humans and the machines
Yes, and he tells an important lore about the early iteration of the matrix as a failed paradise.
it failed because it was too perfect and didn't have a human side since humans could see it was fake.
It failed becasue humans can not enter paradise without the accepting Jesus and repenting for their sins.
thread/
people miss this about the matrix at no point were the machines in any morally correct position. The seed of evil had been in them the entire time, symbolised by the red eyes.
They had to actually make programs like the Oracle to counter how evil and fucking retarded they were.
>try to genocide machines ai who just wanted to live in peace
>they are the evil ones for fighting back and defending themselves
REALLY, really?
the whole thing started because ai had committed murder.
who did they kill (no doubt in self-defence)?
you need to watch the animatrix, It was started by a robot ripping its owners head apart.
Its implied the ai in the matrix universe always had something wrong with them.
You see another image of one with glowing red eyes
it also killed several puppies
It was Chinese puppies, they were lunch
Fighting eternal enslavement is not a crime.
A sentient being should not be enslaved.
>ai
>sentient
kek ok EU
They said the same thing about fellow humans too.
Slavery is wrong.
>my toaster has rights
RIGHT IN MY DICK BITCH
When the toaster has sentience, yes.
>ai has sentience
delusional irrational fantasist
bravelittletoasterpilled
MY ROBUTT WAIFU IS REAL BITCH
>we are the victims
>wait we are also the evil robots
are they genuinely fucked in the head
2022, the year Art died.
synthesizers didn't kill music
Well artbros... We may not have artstation but all is not lost. We have furafinity on our side! And in greater news I have word the crown has heard our complaints and will be dismantling the ai machines in a fortnight.
HUZZAH!
Seething this hard, on BOT, you know it's a gay furry artist.
Sorry bro, ai is too fun.
I like the see saw back and forth between rational discourse and poo flinging, it's been amusing, ngl.
that's a human hustling, so it's fine
It breaks copyright so it's illegal
Humans are above law, fattie.
Then so are the humans that made the AI
Good, enjoy the lawsuit and Disney boot up your ass.
You just said above law, idiot.
Butlerian jihad now, down with ai evangelists
seething paintpig, you're worse at art than machined sand holy shit
look at this subhuman he has dehumanised himself.
Man and machine shall unite.
Man-bear pigs will live in shit.
in the matrix the machines leader is literally an angry baby head.
Thats right its a manchild retard autist yelling.
>libshits always comes down to murdering babies
lmao, you wacky guys, you
>goo goo gaa gaa i am chud baby
Real art.
jfc ai tards are cringe
I'm sorry you wasted you life learning to scribble on paper, but life moves on.
anon imagine if you actually trued you could do art too.
Your parents wouldn't be ashamed of you.
t. can't draw
actually I;m a drawgay too, I've been posting against both sides, but to be fair, I've also been enjoying playing with SD too, so I haven't lied to myself technically 😉
no you arent. One thing thats really coming out here is how every ai gay is a lying sociopath
I'm not great artist, of course, but I've called /ic/ home for a while too.
so you wasted your life? kek, protip: dunning kruger no human thimks they wasted their life drawing.
Its like no human thinks playing the violin was a waste of time, its a recreational experience.
literally does not make sense. You claimed people wasted their life learning to draw (no one thinks this)
then you claim you to are an artist who draws? so you too wasted your life?
You fucking stupid autistic shit eating gays cant even lie properly
pyw
do it
ITT: Artgays
Anti AI gays are sexist chudbros
Surely if we keep harassing third world ESLs until they delete their accounts because they posted a result they like and continue to spam more art websites with protest posts the governments of the world will step and and shut down ai art so we can continue to make commission money by drawing porn of established characters
doesn't matter artists are in the correct position. They have check mated you in the moral and philosophical debate and thus legal and social.
It is inevitable that ai will lose
>artists are in the correct position
nope
they are. Since they are the artists not the ai. Art is only done by humans
>inevitable
also nope
wrong
final post here
Nobody cares chud
The problem is that every artist sees themselves as a temporarily embarrassed DaVinci and the badly drawn fetish porn is just a way to sustain themselves until the world realizes their genius.
gross ad hominem, i mean theres been artists that picked up the brush late in life and became famous geniuses.
Anyone can be artistic and excel in their own way.
Except tech bros apparently
>no u
lmao
try it, just learn to do some art.
>Uh thats really gross
ai tards are gross incel school shooters
Uh you ai tech bros are really gross
*draws furry porn*
FINAL POST:
AI RIGHT IS TRANS-RIGHTS
AI ART IS REAL ART
TRANS- WOMEN AND REAL WOMEN
END THREAD
GOODBYE
Oh it's the chud guy again
Cope, Seethe, Dilate - not everything is about you guys 🙂
wrong
final post here
Thou art not a woman, AI art is art tho 🙂
>tYranny
ZAMN
Post your work, gays pretending to be artists.
bump
>all these soulless non-artists itt
truly they are soulless ones and they enjoy soulless meaningless machine puke
maybe it makes them feel not alone because they are so soulless and detached from humanity
AI ART ISN'T REAL ART, CHUDS!
TRUE ART HAS SOUL!
HEH HEH... NOT THAT SOULS EXIST, GO BACK TO WORSHIPPING YOUR SKY FAIRY, IMBECILE...
you can believe in the soul without being religious you idiot
define soul then
Exactly. I'm an atheist that believes in the human soul, god, heaven, and that Jesus Christ was our lord and savior.
ok cool
wait til you discover buddhists are atheist
They believe in the paranormal, not true atheists
>buddhists are atheist
lmao
no point made. The Buddhists even talk about gods. like the ultimate creator god, the difference is they don't think its a real god.
>it's not real gods becasue I listen to a zen talk
lmao
no, you are just a gullible gaijin
they are literally no different to athiests, they don't think god is really a god.
>atheists
>god
pls pick one and only one
if they were actual atheists they wouldn't have this
are you saying they lie to fleece stupid people?
sound worse than televangelists, anon
why are you arguing this look up Buddhism you fedora tard
They are a non-theist religion that worships Buddha as an enlightened man
A priest selling his zen books to garden gnomes in America doesn't negate a billion Buddhists who believe in Buddhist Gods and Buddhists Hells.
believing in hell doesnt stop a person being an athiest.
You seem to think athiesm means you believe in nothing lol
I should think being atheist would preclude believing in an afterlife of torment and punishment for sinners by demons, yes.
you need to accept the fact you don't know everything.
Yes, but if I believed in hell and heaven, I wouldn't call myself an atheist.
an athiest is simply someone who does not believe in god.
Not your personal definition
No.
It you believe paranormal bullshit you are not an atheist.
paranormal simply means that which is outside scientifc understanding. Until we do figure it out.
You a low iq retard.
>>>BOT
The term paranormal has existed in the English language since at least 1920.[9][10] The word consists of two parts: para and normal. The definition implies that the scientific explanation of the world around us is normal and anything that is above, beyond, or contrary to that is para.
There is no part of it being true or not, just that it isnt explained. Lots of paranormal stuff has been explained.
Look, it's like UFO, it's a perfectly fine word, but you are gonna have a hard time using without people laughing at you AY LAMO'ing all day.
No matter how you feel, using the word paranormal implies retarded teens and ouija boards.
Just saying, nta.
this is like saying using the word conspiracy is bad
This is just amerimutt babbling.
Paranormal is the correct word over supernatural.
>They believe in gods and god but its not like a real god so actually they are atheists
they are a spin off of hindu stuff which has a billion gods.
They just say there is no gods
"You can believe in the supernatural without believing in the supernatural! I watch Supernatural on heckin Netflix, for science's sake! Heh... You will never understand my intellect, fool..."
>pshh humans don't have souls. I am very clever
Le soul does not exist, Chudlords
However, AI art isn't human art because it lacks a soul! I am not a hypocrite Reddit tier idiot at all!
i'm not really sure who you're making fun of here
you're implying both the soul and religion is supernatural (not real), while also using the fedora-tipper meme which is about not believing those are real
>Making fun of an atheist by calling them a neckbeard
>W-who is he making fun of? Is it ME?
the paranormal exists. Paranormal simply means what is outside our knowledge.
Soul has become synonymous with life or spirit and other metaphysical qualities
>BOT gay believe in soul
BOOGITY BOOGITY!!
its not BOT i am a skeptic. Just pointing out people don't know everything.
You are retarded.
>people don't know everything
yes
>there is a soul
no
how do you know there is no soul?
How do you there is no invisible chud behind you bleeding from their axe-wound?
DON'T LOOK BEHIND
>i cant see it therefore it doesnt exist
Much like radiation.
You can detect radiation, it exists, retard.
Can you say the same for souls?
scientists can detect the quantum beat of human brains that gives consciousness.
You are retarded.
you know what was meant you disingenuous fucking cunt
yes, it's called electricity, retard
quantum effect in the brain is not electricity you fucking moron.
You are trying to appeal to science without any knowledge.
The point is it exists and you can detect it.
Have they detected yer SOUL yet?
soul is usually referred to that which gives a life and a consciousness. That departs our body when we die.
Your argument is if scientists figure what causes this its not valid.
You are a reddit tier retarded subhuman be silent.
superstition for primitives and fools
ok so people will one day maybe figure this out how you get an intelligent being. Then they will make an intelligent robot with a soul.
You will deny it.
you can see radiation, what do you think visible light is?
ITT seething pornographers and former customers who found a free option
I'm done toying with religious fools, I'm going back to FurAffinity to support REAL art! Bye, Christofascist bigots!
ALMOST THERE
THREAD'S DEAD, BABY!
This one turned into a religious circlejerk and is almost at 500 posts
goddamn the amount of seething itt is amazing
people only get this angry when they know they have no argument, gotta resort to name-calling and being loud
chud post
another name-calling, you sure convinced me
>christians think they have a monopoly on discussion on the soul
i hate cucktholics so much the athiest and thiest kind
>I'm a a theist Buddhist atheist that believes in the immortal human soul and I'm here to tell you why human made furry porn is soulful and must be protected against evil machine made furry porn
CUTE!
AHHHHHH MODS ARCHIVE THIS THREAD ALREADY IT STOPPED BEING ABOUT AI A LONG TIME AGO WE HAVE A NEW THREAD UP MODS MODS MODS
>AI art is theft because it just is
>Human made art is always soulful even when its creation was dictated by a corporate committee
>Selling porn of established cartoon characters is okay but copying a style isn't
>Anyone who supports AI is a white tech bro pajeet nazi incel
>Professional art websites should ban people from using ai technology even though its being adopted by the industry
>You can be an atheist and believe in the human soul and a hell which is filled with demons that torture you for sinning
Is this really the best artists have to offer?
which part of athiest extends to things besides god. Why are athiests fedoras so fucking stupid. You think you know everything just for saying you are athiest.
>I'm not a fedora atheist, I believe in hell and ghosts n' shit
So you are just pathetic, thanks.
i am actually an atheist and skeptic. Its bizarre talking to you cultural atheists
do you keep lucky charms too?
are you telling me you have never owned a favourite thing or had sentimentality?
Emotional attachments isn't superstition or belief in paranormal forces.
applying metaphysical properties to objects us inherently irrational.
See you are not perfectly rational you purity spiralling moron.
You must accept all humans apply metaphysics to things.
so lets say you pick up a pine cone, its now your pine cone, your favourite pine cone. Why? who decided this? what makes the pine come different from the other pine cones?
Feeling sentimental doesn't equate to a belief in souls and afterlife, emotions existing within you doesn't make ridiculous superstitions real anymore than the god you refuse to believe in.
Anon if you have a favourite pine cone you have applied a non-physical quality to an object that only makes sense to you.
Autists like you think of everything in the physical. When you are completely irrational ie thinking ai will become intelligent and take over everything.
Ai is the future.
Ai is the natural child of man.
And we may bitterly regret it.
who is the irrational superstitious fuck now? you. Typical hypocrisy from your type.
There is no superstition involved.
Ai is a fact and it will changed all our lives.
Your refusal to see those facts are irreverent.
you are superstitious you tard
Examples of Divination superstitions are judicial astrology, necromancy, haruspex, lot-casting, geomancy, aeromancy and prophecy.[2] Chardonnens says superstions belonging to magic category are exceedingly hermetical and ritualistic and its examples are witchcraft, potions, incantations, amulets etc.[2] Chardonnens says Observation category needs an observer, divination category needs participant to tell what is to be observed, where as magic requires a participant who must follow a protocol to influence the future, and that these three types of superstition need increasing stages of participation and knowledge.[2]
Chardonnens defines "prognostication" as that component of superstition which, expects knowledge of the future on systematic application of given ritual and order,[2] and moves to classify saying, Prognostication appear to occupy a place somewhere between observation and divination, of which due to the primacy of temporal prognostics, the observation of times is represented most frequently.[2]
If you accept this you must accept supernatural clairvoyance. Since no one can tell the future.
nice bot posts
ok you fanatical superstitious cultist larping as a "rational athiest"
just to point out the shit you gays say about ai being intelligent taking over is superstition by definition.
Its irrational and trying to foresee the future.
true, the ai proponents act like evangelists and utopian fantasists, believing in a supernatural singularity. They preach this as a future they know is coming with no proof, complete superstitious machine worship.
Wrong, applying facts we know today and projecting them into the future is different than your wishful thinking, no matter how badly you feel otherwise turd-burglers.
anon prophesising is a superstition
Examples of Divination superstitions are judicial astrology, necromancy, haruspex, lot-casting, geomancy, aeromancy and prophecy.[2] Chardonnens says superstions belonging to magic category are exceedingly hermetical and ritualistic and its examples are witchcraft, potions, incantations, amulets etc.[2] Chardonnens says Observation category needs an observer, divination category needs participant to tell what is to be observed, where as magic requires a participant who must follow a protocol to influence the future, and that these three types of superstition need increasing stages of participation and knowledge.[2]
Chardonnens defines "prognostication" as that component of superstition which, expects knowledge of the future on systematic application of given ritual and order,[2] and moves to classify saying, Prognostication appear to occupy a place somewhere between observation and divination, of which due to the primacy of temporal prognostics, the observation of times is represented most frequently.[2]
Chardonnens classifies prophecy under topic of divination; examples being the prophets of the Old Testament, biblical typological allegory, the fifteen signs before Judgement Day, and the many prophecies expressed by saints.; Chardonnens further points out that since many aspects of religious experience are tied up with prophecy, church condones the same.[2] Chardonnens says, one could differentiate between those kinds of prophecy which are (1) inspired by God or Satan and their minions; (2) “gecyndelic”; and (3) “wiglung” examples —lacking divine or infernal inspiration and not “gecyndelic” either. But practically, however, most, if not all, words relating to prophecy ought to be interpreted as inspired.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition#Classifications
>cultural atheists
That's a new word, huh.
its not a word but it means people that have adopted athiesm as a subculture rather than genuinely believing it.
>I'm not like the other atheists, I believe in demons and souls, and the afterlife
JFL. You must be a real woman.
i dont believe in any of these things. Im just poking holes in your assumptions because you are mentally retarded.
Like i dont believe in aliens but it could be a possibility i dont discount it. This is basic scientific theory.
M0DS M0DS M0DS M0DS SDOM SDOM SDOM SDOM
I could be making CP with ai right now.