still very popular but it wasn't revolutionary like people claimed it would be. I think that might be due in part to the fact that the learning curve is extremely high, the equipment is extremely expensive, and it's very time consuming. it has revolutionized many industries and is used quite in a bit in production. it just didn't end going the "everyone will print their new car" way that people claimed back then. ChatGPT on the other hand is extremely easy and cheap to use.
>it just didn't end going the "everyone will print their new car" way that people claimed back then.
turns out that if you can do it at home you can do it in a factory, and the factory has economies of scale
>learning curve is extremely high
You are joking, right? >Download file from random site >Throw into slicer >Start the print
Custom parts >learn piss easy blender, or CAD if you're serious >export to stl >rest as above
Major drawback from getting into it: >PLA is the default starting material, but looks different, than plastic parts from your everyday-life, while having shit temperature-resistance (shit melted on a summer's day in my car nooooo) >Has to look into petg or abs for serious applications. >This research and setup takes time and people are fucking lazy, news at 11
tl;dr
it did't take off, because there are still too many steps between seeing a model on th*ngyv*rse and having that part printed and people are too lazy to invest the slightest amout of time.
samefaging, but I just remembered a recent discussion >people discuss a plastic holder for their airtag >price-reduction from $25 to $15 >someone mentions, that it takes max 20 minutes to design and print >then the floodgate opened >"my time is worth more than $15" >"this would take at least 2 hours" >"why yes, I have a 3d-printer as a status-symbol, but refuse to learn cad"
pic related
>Its 10min of learning a fun tool.
This. When did everyone become so incredibly serious about their time? People should just fucking relax and laugh, when shit breaks, or they notice, that the idea they had, did not work out. But it seems, that in today's safe-spaced world everything has to be clean, work, perfect and has to work on the initial try.
no metal/glass printing yet why is it taking so long? Hell give me some ceramic at least.
Metal prints are a thing
They suck though and you're better off having someone else make cnc them
God. I can’t wait for glass and brass 3D printing.
We are all going to make it.
>Metal prints are a thing
I mean for plebs I had the pleasure of doing some metal 3d printing shits nice as hell but costs a arm and a leg.
>metal, read: sturdier parts
has anyone of you tried electroplating?
That is true most the time. Designing and printing takes time and effort. It is rarely worth it for a single part. But if you need or could sell a small batch it is a different story.
Getting into 3d printing for making household crap is dumb anyway.
[...] SLS exist. But it would not become a hobby level tech in nearby future.
>Designing and printing takes time and effort.
Yea, when you're new to the topic. Look at the part. It is a single extrusion with two through-holes and a single subtraction for the airpod. There is not a single filet. I could design this thing in a single 4mb webm. This discussion went on for over 2 hours. Thank god, they didn't invest a fraction of that time in learning something, but expressing their opinion.
I highly doubt that electroplating will give you much in the terms of sturdiness
We're talking atomically thin layers
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It depends on the duration of the process, no? It seemed to help in making a sturdy phone-case
https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=sr_uuBkKYF8
@10 minutes
I'm on the fence on buying the acids and material for plating copper, so I might report back in a few weeks, but most likely on
6 months ago
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>We're talking atomically thin layers
no way in hell this isn't some adl that would take ages.
6 months ago
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Anon electroplating has been around since before the greeks
That is true most the time. Designing and printing takes time and effort. It is rarely worth it for a single part. But if you need or could sell a small batch it is a different story.
Getting into 3d printing for making household crap is dumb anyway.
God. I can’t wait for glass and brass 3D printing.
We are all going to make it.
SLS exist. But it would not become a hobby level tech in nearby future.
>Designing and printing takes time and effort. It is rarely worth it for a single part.
5 minutes of design and another 5 of printer setup to make a part that would otherwise take $20 and 4 days of shipping to get. yeah, terrible deal
>You are joking, right? >just download other people's work >have beginner level 3D skills
dunning kruger post. All you needed was the major drawbacks and the tl;dr, and not go out of your way to suggest that barely having the skills to use it is good enough.
>criticizing my writing style
kek, are we on Bot.info or Bot.info? >suggest that barely having the skills to use it is good enough
How is this not true? When friends come around, which are not into tech or are busy with their kids, they are still mindblown by the concept of 3d-printing, even though it is commercially available since at least 10-15 years now. Even my 70 y/o dad was able to download, slice and print a model after I showed him the process.
Then, and only then, after the novelty wears off, they start to ask, why the surface is not perfectly smooth, if the dimensions are 100% correct and so on. But this only happens, if they are actually interested in the topic. The rest of them all go "oh nice anon, can you print one for me too?" and are happy to keep their 3d printed easter-bunny for a few days.
how would running your own server and maintaining a homepage revolutionize democracy
Circumventing censorship, until they visit you with a search warrant, I guess.
i don't think many people realize just how revolutionary 3d has been and slowly still is being, people are able to keep their self-employed jobs way longer thanks to it. The designs take a very long time to build, propagate, iterate in the network as they can't be parsed so easily but that's the only inefficiency stopping it from going mainstream. It still needs its web browser moment.
Early Internet nerds thought the Internet would revolutionize freedom and democratic participation. Just to find out that the majority doesn't want to run their own server or maintain a homepage. Instead they fill out pre-made forms on social media and consume on the same dozen big websites while following trends spread by influencers.
that's how the internet works right now
we're talking to each other on Bot.info and we can say pretty much whatever we want so long as it's not illegal
Yes, but it's not what the majority does. They read the same centralized newspapers online, consume goods and movies on a few centralized platforms, watch influencers tell them what to think and buy. The technology is there, but... the people have failed our vision. 🙁
Same with bitcoin/cryptocurrencies. They could host their own wallets, but they have it all on centralized exchanges.
They could become creative and print stuff in plastic for cheap with 3D, or send their files to companies like Shapeways and have it in metal. But they don't.
They could use the whole IoT stuff and tinker around. They don't.
Fab Labs were said to revolutionize local production. Little happened, and the few things I see are welded garbage that "self-empowered" pseuds call art.
Likewise, the majority never fought for freedom. Or human rights. Or invented something and improved our lives. All those tools are only for the few to (foolishly) serve the lazy many. So at least make them pay for it.
that's how the internet works right now
we're talking to each other on Bot.info and we can say pretty much whatever we want so long as it's not illegal
Nothing said here matters.
It doesn't matter how true it is, nobody has to take it seriously.
It got a hell of alot cheaper, and then a hell of alot faster
3D printing has been the biggest thing in recent times for maker/diy/engineering types
Of course if you're just a consumer than 3d printing would seem overhyped as it's the equivalent of getting hype over a wrench. Consumers have no real reason to get excited over tools.
>Consumers have no real reason to get excited over tools.
only correct answer. someone that wants to just buy shit from amazon is obviously not going to be excited over a tool they have to learn to operate, calibrate, maintain, etc. now if they have someone else that can do that for them they are suddenly real excited about it. i got a 3D printer a couple months ago and now im constantly being asked by family to print shit for them because they cant be assed to pay five bucks for a mass produced part.
No, it kinda jumpstarted another big shift in 3D Printing. They put out an affordable printer that can give very high quality prints in 1/4 of the time it takes other bed slingers to do. Prusa on suicide watch.
>Prusa
prusa i3 was always a terrible mechanical design, people went full retarded on of it and made a ton of retarded fixes instead of changing to a better platform.
and prusa printer itself was very very expensive for what it was.
No, it's more like the deep learning of 2011. ChatGPT will never be useful for anything, not even services. However, deep learning is in everything right now and you don't even know it. Similarly, 3D printing is used extensively in all kinds of industrial and hobby endeavors right now. Scientific labs across the world use 3D printing to build parts for their machines (for example I know a lab that built a single cell monitoring system that way, and I know of a dozen AFM microscopy platforms that built most their stuff off of partially 3D printed parts).
>ChatGPT will never be useful for anything, not even services.
Tell that to BT or any of the other places firing workers
Also gpt4 codes great already without the github finetune
>or any of the other places firing workers
all the smaller companies are doing worse than before because guess what
ai trivializes the work but you still need somebody to read and debug all that code
you can't expect one "le prompt engineer" to do all that job alone
it's a tool that exists to make a codemonkey's life easier, not replace him
Nobody's using AI to replace employees, dumbfuck. Tech companies are telling investors they're doing that because they got caught with their pants down due to constant rate hikes, fucking their loan opportunities. This resulted in needing to downsize aggressively, especially dumping all the fat accumulated during the covid boom facilitated by money laundering-tier government gibs.
This kind of downsizing would normally dump their stock to 0. So they say "no goyim, we're not actually getting rid of growth. You see, we're growing through cheaper, more technological means!" Then investors buy more instead of selling everything, hoping that next quarter will see growth instead of the ludicrous earning misses and downsizing that has been happening so far.
It's not fucking rocket science for fuck sake.
Are you clinically retarded or merely pretending? am I being baited right now?
6 months ago
Anonymous
EXPLAIN BT
YOU CANT
6 months ago
Anonymous
Why don't you explain it? Everyone else is giving explanations. You are not. As a neutral observer I would say they have won handiky and you are a loser who doesn't understand anything.
BT, or "Big Tech" is a streamer on cozy.tv who recently caused quite a stir by making multiple streams attacking other people who stream on the site, as well as seemingly going against the interests of Nick Fuentes and the America First movement, on Nick's own streaming platform.
Companies are firing workers because interest rates are going up and the free money gravy train is over, you can't pay hundreds of people to just sit around all day anymore. The AI thing is a convenient excuse though. Sounds better to claim AI is replacing workers than admitting most of your "work"force hadn't been doing anything for years.
>fire everyone because shitbusiness cant make money unless interest rates are 0 >"hey rabbi why are you firing everyone?" >"o-oh, we're adoptinf AI, goyim!" >stock saved from death spiral
There are some good applications for it. My workplace sells custom 3D-printed knee braces based on a structure scan of a patient's leg - pretty cool stuff.
Can't say I follow the 3D printing field with a lot of attention but it seems like it's pretty popular in circles which can actually make use of one and prices seem to have come down a fair bit.
40 posts and it took this long for someone to point this out.
AI is obviously going to be a big deal for 3D printing, just as it is for everything else.
It's an imaging problem made up of triangles, the exact thing the hardware that makes AI possible was originally intended for.
Obviously 3D printing is going to be a big part of the next revolution which will be humanoid robots (gynoids).
I already took them.
Not my fault you're unable to see how we can take existing technology and make something new.
How long until we teach the AI to make robots? Years? Months? Weeks? Days? How many people have figured this out already and are working on exactly that right now instead of wasting their time on Bot.info?
Cool.
But that's just one hobbyist. Imagine what's going to happen once Sony smells money.
6 months ago
Anonymous
what money? the market segment of smelly autistic weirdos is pretty saturated as-is, they don't have much money and nobody else would want a robotic titbitch
Yeah which is why Nvidia have applied AI to the problem of graphics card design and instantly improved the cost effectiveness of their next gen stuff 40x. Not 40%, 40x.
All problems can basically be reduced to one of three types.
1. Linguistic problems (what is it)
2. Imaging problems (what does it look like)
3, Manual problems (how do you make it).
We've nailed 2 out of 3.
Holy shit, when can I buy these cards!?!
I actually don't think you ever will by the next gen (as of right now) card. I think the big corporations are going to suck literally 100% of capacity and still be demanding more for a year or two while the AI race heats up.
But then the next next gen card will be even more radical and you'll be glad you skipped the next gen.
6 months ago
Anonymous
It will always amaze you that people as clueless as you dare make posts.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder if this made sense to you.
6 months ago
Anonymous
When someone says "2+2 = potato", it makes sense to anyone. It also does a bit more than 'make sense'.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe try proofreading one post before you solve the captcha.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Do imaging problems include other senses? Like the shark's later line, smell and senses we can't image that some weirdass aliens have 69k light years from us?
>I think the big corporations are going to suck literally 100% of capacity and still be demanding more
Yea, that's probably true
6 months ago
Anonymous
*lateral line
6 months ago
Anonymous
Those sound like linguistic problems to me.
What are they? How do they work? What do they do? What is the underlying physics?
These are things explained with language.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Well, how does smell work? You have small molecules binding to receptors in your nose and causing neurons to fire. The input is then processed in the brain.
So yea, maybe all senses are similar (like vision) in terms of processing. No idea though.
6 months ago
Anonymous
And you see you're framing the problem in language and the answer is also in language.
If you do that enough you'll eventually have a complete description of a smelling device.
And once you do that you can then ask what such a device looks like.
And once you do that you can then ask how to construct such a device.
And in so doing you will have completely mastered an artificial sense of smell for any task for which such a sense might be required.
6 months ago
Anonymous
What would it even mean for an AI model to generate smells?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you asking me? I don't fucking know. I'm not a professor of smells.
Go teach an AI.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe the AI can learn to identify smells and describe them using a pretentious British voice
6 months ago
Anonymous
If that is what your heart truly desires Anon, then AI makes all things possible.
Well, it's largely a meme. CNC routers have been doing the same thing, only through reduction rather than addition, for nearly a hundred years -- and additive milling greatly reduces the type of material you can use.
>ghost gun panic
Also a nothingburger. You could always make firearms out of even more basic tools and supplies.
>parts cost a few bucks vs hundreds of dollars >tooling costs a couple hundred instead of tens of thousands
It's become the go-to for prototyping and making one-off parts that don't undergo large loads. The reduction in lead times for prototyping is itself a massive improvement.
CNC routers doing 'the same thing' is such an oversimplification it makes to look absolutely retarded.
Still around and still very useful for prototyping and hobby stuff, but it still just does not have the precision and reliability to compete with machining and injection molding for serious production.
I think how long it's useful depends on what you use it for. There are only so many shitty star wars figurines a guy can make, so those people kind of got big into it and then lost interest quickly. I use mine all the time to make actual things with uses so it doesn't really matter if it's not fun. Any time I need a little bracket or holder or whatever I can knock it out in cad and have it in my hand in an hour. For prototyping or one off things you can't beat the speed. If it's important I will fire up my cnc mill, but for the most part a 3d print is more than enough. I think the main reason it's not the big "thing" anymore is that a lot of people bought them that don't know how to model anything, so they can only print shit that other people have made and posted online. It's much more useful if you can design your own shit.
>a lot of people bought them that don't know how to model anything
This is the truth.
And I'm actually noticing a similar pattern with AI. I get an AI image generator and I can make anything I want and that's a long list. But what I've noticed is I give it to other people and tell them they can have anything they want and they just sit there and wait for me to show them what I want.
There's a point where will meets imagination and apparently not everyone has that.
>3D printing
used to make waifu figurines >Crypto/blockchain
used to pay/collect waifu NFTs >new distro
riced with waifus wallpapers >AI
chatbots with waifus
I don't need to make my own guns yet and I'm not a nasa that needs specific engine designs where the only way to create complex 3d fuel tubes that cant be made with normal methods
Everything you can 3d print, can be purchased cheaper. If you want something printed for you, there’s tons of services that do it for like $3 a print. You’ll never make any money from it. It’s a massive waste of time. They break constantly, requiring money to fix. They’re a bad as boats and rvs. Just an endless money pit. It’s kind of fun. But it’s all toxic.
Not true. In a commun*st utopia world sure, you could get any part instantly anywhere in the world for a prime cost. But real life is different. Sometimes simple air filters for electronic device could cost over 50$ with 2 months lead time. So you get a printer, print a bunch of frames, cut and put 5$ car cabin filters in and sell it for 35$. ROI in just 2 days.
It seems to mostly be a gimmick in construction because it replaces the part of construction that was already cheap in the first place. Making concrete blocks in a concrete block factory is still cheaper than 3D printing those blocks on the spot, it's only useful for buildings with weird custom shapes.
It is still really popular. Don't expect to discuss meaningfull job with Bot.infotards , since they are only capable or ricing their desktops and jerking off all day.
It would be useful if it actually came out perfectly smooth and nice, people would print anime figurines and Lego bricks and stuff. But it comes out all rough and unfinished, not good enough to just paint a figurine and put on a shelf.
Yeah the do but it's a lot of work. They don't come out perfectly smooth and finished, you have to finish them off manually before painting. That's too much work
unless you used it to print everyday mechanics that made you lazier, like your own kleenex-sized box for your ziploc baggies so that the cardboard doesn't come apart like it does now
Remember vaping? I actually quit smoking using it back in the day, and then quit vaping too, which is a lot less addictive than normal smoking. Would've saved a lot of smokers lives if it wasn't regulated into oblivion
vaping is still the wild west for the most part. the most "regulation" there is you have to be 18 or 21 to purchase from a store just like alcohol. theres nobody holding companies accountable for the vape juice killing others or the e-waste they cause with battery disposables.
3d printing is definitely a big deal, but ultimately your grandma is not going to be learning autocad or fusion360 to make christmas decorations or whatever. it does require investment of time and a certain willpower to take advantage of the tool.
>You can literally print anything! It's basically a replicator from Star Trek! It's the end of capitalism! Fully automated luxury gay space communism here we come! >Well yes you need to supply it with raw materials, but it's going to cause communism so you won't need to spend money on it! >Erm, well at the moment it's only plastic, b-but that's 90% of the work! We'll invent 3d printers for metal soon! >Right, you can only print small objects... but you can, er, g-glue them together to make bigger ones! Eventually we'll have printers the size of GARAGES that can print CARS! So long Mercedes-Benz! >Uhh... well of course you need to have the shape defined in a digital format... but that doesn't matter because we'll have as-yet unknown technology to scan physical objects so... uhh... >In 10 years we'll have HUMAN printers that can print PEOPLE!!!
Reality: >bed >3 screw shafts and stepper motors >hot nozzle with extruder >reel of thermoplastic filament >prints waifus and gundamz
I use it to print small plastic shits that break off and would otherwise be impossible to replace. I've printed hanging brackets, battery covers, plastic switches and mounts and given a new life to items that would otherwise be useless and thrown away because some tiny plastic tab broke off.
I think a lot of the people who got into it as a hobby with no real usecase realized that they were spending tons of money and time to print out the equivalent of shitty drug store toys and lost interest, and the people with legitimate usecases don't obsess over it in the same way a craftsman doesn't obsess over a hammer.
I have a resin 3D printer that I use frequently for gunpla and propmaking but the people who were trying to make a living by making youtube videos about printing out shitty stim toys have dried up.
bambu labs happened bitch where have you been
>bambu labs
weird way of spelling formlabs
still very popular but it wasn't revolutionary like people claimed it would be. I think that might be due in part to the fact that the learning curve is extremely high, the equipment is extremely expensive, and it's very time consuming. it has revolutionized many industries and is used quite in a bit in production. it just didn't end going the "everyone will print their new car" way that people claimed back then. ChatGPT on the other hand is extremely easy and cheap to use.
Saves me money on warhammer guys
It's not that expensive, it's just not the injection molding plebs thought it would be
>it just didn't end going the "everyone will print their new car" way that people claimed back then.
turns out that if you can do it at home you can do it in a factory, and the factory has economies of scale
Nothing happened, it exists and people use it.
>learning curve is extremely high
You are joking, right?
>Download file from random site
>Throw into slicer
>Start the print
Custom parts
>learn piss easy blender, or CAD if you're serious
>export to stl
>rest as above
Major drawback from getting into it:
>PLA is the default starting material, but looks different, than plastic parts from your everyday-life, while having shit temperature-resistance (shit melted on a summer's day in my car nooooo)
>Has to look into petg or abs for serious applications.
>This research and setup takes time and people are fucking lazy, news at 11
tl;dr
it did't take off, because there are still too many steps between seeing a model on th*ngyv*rse and having that part printed and people are too lazy to invest the slightest amout of time.
samefaging, but I just remembered a recent discussion
>people discuss a plastic holder for their airtag
>price-reduction from $25 to $15
>someone mentions, that it takes max 20 minutes to design and print
>then the floodgate opened
>"my time is worth more than $15"
>"this would take at least 2 hours"
>"why yes, I have a 3d-printer as a status-symbol, but refuse to learn cad"
pic related
pretty sure solvespace has a tutorial with a holder like that. Its 10min of learning a fun tool.
>Its 10min of learning a fun tool.
This. When did everyone become so incredibly serious about their time? People should just fucking relax and laugh, when shit breaks, or they notice, that the idea they had, did not work out. But it seems, that in today's safe-spaced world everything has to be clean, work, perfect and has to work on the initial try.
>metal, read: sturdier parts
has anyone of you tried electroplating?
>Designing and printing takes time and effort.
Yea, when you're new to the topic. Look at the part. It is a single extrusion with two through-holes and a single subtraction for the airpod. There is not a single filet. I could design this thing in a single 4mb webm. This discussion went on for over 2 hours. Thank god, they didn't invest a fraction of that time in learning something, but expressing their opinion.
I highly doubt that electroplating will give you much in the terms of sturdiness
We're talking atomically thin layers
It depends on the duration of the process, no? It seemed to help in making a sturdy phone-case
https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=sr_uuBkKYF8
@10 minutes
I'm on the fence on buying the acids and material for plating copper, so I might report back in a few weeks, but most likely on
>We're talking atomically thin layers
no way in hell this isn't some adl that would take ages.
Anon electroplating has been around since before the greeks
>*electroplates your balls*
That is true most the time. Designing and printing takes time and effort. It is rarely worth it for a single part. But if you need or could sell a small batch it is a different story.
Getting into 3d printing for making household crap is dumb anyway.
SLS exist. But it would not become a hobby level tech in nearby future.
>Designing and printing takes time and effort. It is rarely worth it for a single part.
5 minutes of design and another 5 of printer setup to make a part that would otherwise take $20 and 4 days of shipping to get. yeah, terrible deal
>You are joking, right?
>just download other people's work
>have beginner level 3D skills
dunning kruger post. All you needed was the major drawbacks and the tl;dr, and not go out of your way to suggest that barely having the skills to use it is good enough.
>criticizing my writing style
kek, are we on Bot.info or Bot.info?
>suggest that barely having the skills to use it is good enough
How is this not true? When friends come around, which are not into tech or are busy with their kids, they are still mindblown by the concept of 3d-printing, even though it is commercially available since at least 10-15 years now. Even my 70 y/o dad was able to download, slice and print a model after I showed him the process.
Then, and only then, after the novelty wears off, they start to ask, why the surface is not perfectly smooth, if the dimensions are 100% correct and so on. But this only happens, if they are actually interested in the topic. The rest of them all go "oh nice anon, can you print one for me too?" and are happy to keep their 3d printed easter-bunny for a few days.
Circumventing censorship, until they visit you with a search warrant, I guess.
i don't think many people realize just how revolutionary 3d has been and slowly still is being, people are able to keep their self-employed jobs way longer thanks to it. The designs take a very long time to build, propagate, iterate in the network as they can't be parsed so easily but that's the only inefficiency stopping it from going mainstream. It still needs its web browser moment.
Early Internet nerds thought the Internet would revolutionize freedom and democratic participation. Just to find out that the majority doesn't want to run their own server or maintain a homepage. Instead they fill out pre-made forms on social media and consume on the same dozen big websites while following trends spread by influencers.
how would running your own server and maintaining a homepage revolutionize democracy
By not being dependent on a few centralized media outlets owned by interest groups. Now everybody has a voice that can be heard.
that's how the internet works right now
we're talking to each other on Bot.info and we can say pretty much whatever we want so long as it's not illegal
Yes, but it's not what the majority does. They read the same centralized newspapers online, consume goods and movies on a few centralized platforms, watch influencers tell them what to think and buy. The technology is there, but... the people have failed our vision. 🙁
Same with bitcoin/cryptocurrencies. They could host their own wallets, but they have it all on centralized exchanges.
They could become creative and print stuff in plastic for cheap with 3D, or send their files to companies like Shapeways and have it in metal. But they don't.
They could use the whole IoT stuff and tinker around. They don't.
Fab Labs were said to revolutionize local production. Little happened, and the few things I see are welded garbage that "self-empowered" pseuds call art.
Likewise, the majority never fought for freedom. Or human rights. Or invented something and improved our lives. All those tools are only for the few to (foolishly) serve the lazy many. So at least make them pay for it.
Nothing said here matters.
It doesn't matter how true it is, nobody has to take it seriously.
>It was the Chat GPT of 2011.
So an overhyped meme
It got a hell of alot cheaper, and then a hell of alot faster
3D printing has been the biggest thing in recent times for maker/diy/engineering types
Of course if you're just a consumer than 3d printing would seem overhyped as it's the equivalent of getting hype over a wrench. Consumers have no real reason to get excited over tools.
>Consumers have no real reason to get excited over tools.
This
>Consumers have no real reason to get excited over tools.
only correct answer. someone that wants to just buy shit from amazon is obviously not going to be excited over a tool they have to learn to operate, calibrate, maintain, etc. now if they have someone else that can do that for them they are suddenly real excited about it. i got a 3D printer a couple months ago and now im constantly being asked by family to print shit for them because they cant be assed to pay five bucks for a mass produced part.
one of those things I wish I had but wouldn't know what to do with
if I was 10 years younger I'd probably own one, sitting in a box in the garage
buttplugs
It's a lot better now
sodastream did for soda what 3d printing did for assault rifles
2070 moment
patents killed innovation
Normies, Etsy and Bumbulab killed it.
what wrong with bambu? I have no idea what it is only read that it is recommended as a plug in starter is it a expansive meme?
No, it kinda jumpstarted another big shift in 3D Printing. They put out an affordable printer that can give very high quality prints in 1/4 of the time it takes other bed slingers to do. Prusa on suicide watch.
>Prusa
prusa i3 was always a terrible mechanical design, people went full retarded on of it and made a ton of retarded fixes instead of changing to a better platform.
and prusa printer itself was very very expensive for what it was.
Hey anon with 3d printers.
New studies show that pla fumes are actually just as toxic as abs etc
Google it
Get a enclosure and vent it outside
Anyone who's surprised by that probably didn't lose anything from the toxic fumes lmao
Plenty of people think its safe
Schools everywhere have them since they were sold on pla being safe
Normalfags are dumb as rocks, news at 11.
Next up: people itt think fluoride in the water is safe and effective.
got a link?
No, it's more like the deep learning of 2011. ChatGPT will never be useful for anything, not even services. However, deep learning is in everything right now and you don't even know it. Similarly, 3D printing is used extensively in all kinds of industrial and hobby endeavors right now. Scientific labs across the world use 3D printing to build parts for their machines (for example I know a lab that built a single cell monitoring system that way, and I know of a dozen AFM microscopy platforms that built most their stuff off of partially 3D printed parts).
>ChatGPT will never be useful for anything, not even services.
Tell that to BT or any of the other places firing workers
Also gpt4 codes great already without the github finetune
You are probably the single most retarded poster I've ever seen.
>durr chatgpt will never be used
Fuck you retard.
Wow, you're even dumber than I thought you were.
>or any of the other places firing workers
all the smaller companies are doing worse than before because guess what
ai trivializes the work but you still need somebody to read and debug all that code
you can't expect one "le prompt engineer" to do all that job alone
it's a tool that exists to make a codemonkey's life easier, not replace him
Have the ai debug it
Some of the llms are getting 100k+ context
Claude can't even pretend to code.
Openai will have 1 million context
Trust the plan
AI makes a lot of mistakes, you haven't done any big projects with it if you actually believe you can get away with AI alone
Nobody's using AI to replace employees, dumbfuck. Tech companies are telling investors they're doing that because they got caught with their pants down due to constant rate hikes, fucking their loan opportunities. This resulted in needing to downsize aggressively, especially dumping all the fat accumulated during the covid boom facilitated by money laundering-tier government gibs.
This kind of downsizing would normally dump their stock to 0. So they say "no goyim, we're not actually getting rid of growth. You see, we're growing through cheaper, more technological means!" Then investors buy more instead of selling everything, hoping that next quarter will see growth instead of the ludicrous earning misses and downsizing that has been happening so far.
It's not fucking rocket science for fuck sake.
Explain BT
Are you clinically retarded or merely pretending? am I being baited right now?
EXPLAIN BT
YOU CANT
Why don't you explain it? Everyone else is giving explanations. You are not. As a neutral observer I would say they have won handiky and you are a loser who doesn't understand anything.
BT, or "Big Tech" is a streamer on cozy.tv who recently caused quite a stir by making multiple streams attacking other people who stream on the site, as well as seemingly going against the interests of Nick Fuentes and the America First movement, on Nick's own streaming platform.
Companies are firing workers because interest rates are going up and the free money gravy train is over, you can't pay hundreds of people to just sit around all day anymore. The AI thing is a convenient excuse though. Sounds better to claim AI is replacing workers than admitting most of your "work"force hadn't been doing anything for years.
>fire everyone because shitbusiness cant make money unless interest rates are 0
>"hey rabbi why are you firing everyone?"
>"o-oh, we're adoptinf AI, goyim!"
>stock saved from death spiral
It’s still popular, just not in the normie sphere. Mostly because it’s expensive.
There are some good applications for it. My workplace sells custom 3D-printed knee braces based on a structure scan of a patient's leg - pretty cool stuff.
Can't say I follow the 3D printing field with a lot of attention but it seems like it's pretty popular in circles which can actually make use of one and prices seem to have come down a fair bit.
What about combining 3D printing with AI!!!
40 posts and it took this long for someone to point this out.
AI is obviously going to be a big deal for 3D printing, just as it is for everything else.
It's an imaging problem made up of triangles, the exact thing the hardware that makes AI possible was originally intended for.
Obviously 3D printing is going to be a big part of the next revolution which will be humanoid robots (gynoids).
Meds. Now.
I already took them.
Not my fault you're unable to see how we can take existing technology and make something new.
How long until we teach the AI to make robots? Years? Months? Weeks? Days? How many people have figured this out already and are working on exactly that right now instead of wasting their time on Bot.info?
i'll just leave this here
Cool.
But that's just one hobbyist. Imagine what's going to happen once Sony smells money.
what money? the market segment of smelly autistic weirdos is pretty saturated as-is, they don't have much money and nobody else would want a robotic titbitch
ToT
3D image gen is going to take some beefy graphics cards
Yeah which is why Nvidia have applied AI to the problem of graphics card design and instantly improved the cost effectiveness of their next gen stuff 40x. Not 40%, 40x.
Faster and faster.
kek
All problems can basically be reduced to one of three types.
1. Linguistic problems (what is it)
2. Imaging problems (what does it look like)
3, Manual problems (how do you make it).
We've nailed 2 out of 3.
I actually don't think you ever will by the next gen (as of right now) card. I think the big corporations are going to suck literally 100% of capacity and still be demanding more for a year or two while the AI race heats up.
But then the next next gen card will be even more radical and you'll be glad you skipped the next gen.
It will always amaze you that people as clueless as you dare make posts.
I wonder if this made sense to you.
When someone says "2+2 = potato", it makes sense to anyone. It also does a bit more than 'make sense'.
Maybe try proofreading one post before you solve the captcha.
Do imaging problems include other senses? Like the shark's later line, smell and senses we can't image that some weirdass aliens have 69k light years from us?
>I think the big corporations are going to suck literally 100% of capacity and still be demanding more
Yea, that's probably true
*lateral line
Those sound like linguistic problems to me.
What are they? How do they work? What do they do? What is the underlying physics?
These are things explained with language.
Well, how does smell work? You have small molecules binding to receptors in your nose and causing neurons to fire. The input is then processed in the brain.
So yea, maybe all senses are similar (like vision) in terms of processing. No idea though.
And you see you're framing the problem in language and the answer is also in language.
If you do that enough you'll eventually have a complete description of a smelling device.
And once you do that you can then ask what such a device looks like.
And once you do that you can then ask how to construct such a device.
And in so doing you will have completely mastered an artificial sense of smell for any task for which such a sense might be required.
What would it even mean for an AI model to generate smells?
Why are you asking me? I don't fucking know. I'm not a professor of smells.
Go teach an AI.
Maybe the AI can learn to identify smells and describe them using a pretentious British voice
If that is what your heart truly desires Anon, then AI makes all things possible.
Holy shit, when can I buy these cards!?!
Well, it's largely a meme. CNC routers have been doing the same thing, only through reduction rather than addition, for nearly a hundred years -- and additive milling greatly reduces the type of material you can use.
>ghost gun panic
Also a nothingburger. You could always make firearms out of even more basic tools and supplies.
Retard
Used cnc routers from the 90's go for 20-30k minimum.
A new 3d printer costs 400-1k for a pretty good one.
Anyone else think CNC Milling Machine sounds like a electronic rock band?
Damn you're dumb. 3D printers have been serving industrial needs for over 40 years.
CNC can't make the same designs as 3d printers but 3d printers can make everything that CNCs can
>parts cost a few bucks vs hundreds of dollars
>tooling costs a couple hundred instead of tens of thousands
It's become the go-to for prototyping and making one-off parts that don't undergo large loads. The reduction in lead times for prototyping is itself a massive improvement.
CNC routers doing 'the same thing' is such an oversimplification it makes to look absolutely retarded.
Still around and still very useful for prototyping and hobby stuff, but it still just does not have the precision and reliability to compete with machining and injection molding for serious production.
bumping this thread because I think Bot.info should discuss this more
you can only make plastic trash
there's only so much meme shit you can make with cheap resin. when we get actual metal 3d printing in 20 years things will change
That already exists it's just very expensive. Seems to me the problem isn't the tech, the problem is you're poor.
I think how long it's useful depends on what you use it for. There are only so many shitty star wars figurines a guy can make, so those people kind of got big into it and then lost interest quickly. I use mine all the time to make actual things with uses so it doesn't really matter if it's not fun. Any time I need a little bracket or holder or whatever I can knock it out in cad and have it in my hand in an hour. For prototyping or one off things you can't beat the speed. If it's important I will fire up my cnc mill, but for the most part a 3d print is more than enough. I think the main reason it's not the big "thing" anymore is that a lot of people bought them that don't know how to model anything, so they can only print shit that other people have made and posted online. It's much more useful if you can design your own shit.
>a lot of people bought them that don't know how to model anything
This is the truth.
And I'm actually noticing a similar pattern with AI. I get an AI image generator and I can make anything I want and that's a long list. But what I've noticed is I give it to other people and tell them they can have anything they want and they just sit there and wait for me to show them what I want.
There's a point where will meets imagination and apparently not everyone has that.
>3D printing
used to make waifu figurines
>Crypto/blockchain
used to pay/collect waifu NFTs
>new distro
riced with waifus wallpapers
>AI
chatbots with waifus
waifus is the endgame in all tech
Robots are next and it's going to be great.
I don't need to make my own guns yet and I'm not a nasa that needs specific engine designs where the only way to create complex 3d fuel tubes that cant be made with normal methods
Everything you can 3d print, can be purchased cheaper. If you want something printed for you, there’s tons of services that do it for like $3 a print. You’ll never make any money from it. It’s a massive waste of time. They break constantly, requiring money to fix. They’re a bad as boats and rvs. Just an endless money pit. It’s kind of fun. But it’s all toxic.
Not true. In a commun*st utopia world sure, you could get any part instantly anywhere in the world for a prime cost. But real life is different. Sometimes simple air filters for electronic device could cost over 50$ with 2 months lead time. So you get a printer, print a bunch of frames, cut and put 5$ car cabin filters in and sell it for 35$. ROI in just 2 days.
>Chat GPT of 2011.
lolwut? 3d print is actually useful. chatgpt is a gimmick
no metal/glass printing yet why is it taking so long? Hell give me some ceramic at least.
Metal prints are a thing
They suck though and you're better off having someone else make cnc them
>Metal prints are a thing
I mean for plebs I had the pleasure of doing some metal 3d printing shits nice as hell but costs a arm and a leg.
God. I can’t wait for glass and brass 3D printing.
We are all going to make it.
Bro there's entire apartment complexes being 3D-printed now
Also edible meat, lab-grown donor organs etc are being worked on
It seems to mostly be a gimmick in construction because it replaces the part of construction that was already cheap in the first place. Making concrete blocks in a concrete block factory is still cheaper than 3D printing those blocks on the spot, it's only useful for buildings with weird custom shapes.
>dude what if you can print anything
>wow thats so cool. print out of what?
>literal plastic dogshit
>oh...okay...
It is still really popular. Don't expect to discuss meaningfull job with Bot.infotards , since they are only capable or ricing their desktops and jerking off all day.
They're not even good at jerking off all day, nobody's adopting the advanced jerking off technology here.
They have POSIX-compliant shell script to automatically jerk them off while they rice their desktop.
Turns out that being able to print plastic crap in any shape you want isn't actually that useful
It would be useful if it actually came out perfectly smooth and nice, people would print anime figurines and Lego bricks and stuff. But it comes out all rough and unfinished, not good enough to just paint a figurine and put on a shelf.
people already do print warhammer models with it
but people were acting like 3D printing was going to change everything
Yeah the do but it's a lot of work. They don't come out perfectly smooth and finished, you have to finish them off manually before painting. That's too much work
unless you used it to print everyday mechanics that made you lazier, like your own kleenex-sized box for your ziploc baggies so that the cardboard doesn't come apart like it does now
>cool new tech about to revolutionize the world
>gets ~~*regulated*~~ to hell and back
Many many many such cases
Remember vaping? I actually quit smoking using it back in the day, and then quit vaping too, which is a lot less addictive than normal smoking. Would've saved a lot of smokers lives if it wasn't regulated into oblivion
vaping is still the wild west for the most part. the most "regulation" there is you have to be 18 or 21 to purchase from a store just like alcohol. theres nobody holding companies accountable for the vape juice killing others or the e-waste they cause with battery disposables.
>bought an Ender 3 Pro in 2020
it was one of my best purchases in a long time. Still using the printer for hosuehold stuff and sometimes decoration.
3d printing is definitely a big deal, but ultimately your grandma is not going to be learning autocad or fusion360 to make christmas decorations or whatever. it does require investment of time and a certain willpower to take advantage of the tool.
Turns out that tiny trinkets made out of poor quality plastic are literally worthless.
>You can literally print anything! It's basically a replicator from Star Trek! It's the end of capitalism! Fully automated luxury gay space communism here we come!
>Well yes you need to supply it with raw materials, but it's going to cause communism so you won't need to spend money on it!
>Erm, well at the moment it's only plastic, b-but that's 90% of the work! We'll invent 3d printers for metal soon!
>Right, you can only print small objects... but you can, er, g-glue them together to make bigger ones! Eventually we'll have printers the size of GARAGES that can print CARS! So long Mercedes-Benz!
>Uhh... well of course you need to have the shape defined in a digital format... but that doesn't matter because we'll have as-yet unknown technology to scan physical objects so... uhh...
>In 10 years we'll have HUMAN printers that can print PEOPLE!!!
Reality:
>bed
>3 screw shafts and stepper motors
>hot nozzle with extruder
>reel of thermoplastic filament
>prints waifus and gundamz
If you change a few words it sounds exactly like AI fags.
I use it to print small plastic shits that break off and would otherwise be impossible to replace. I've printed hanging brackets, battery covers, plastic switches and mounts and given a new life to items that would otherwise be useless and thrown away because some tiny plastic tab broke off.
I think a lot of the people who got into it as a hobby with no real usecase realized that they were spending tons of money and time to print out the equivalent of shitty drug store toys and lost interest, and the people with legitimate usecases don't obsess over it in the same way a craftsman doesn't obsess over a hammer.
I have a resin 3D printer that I use frequently for gunpla and propmaking but the people who were trying to make a living by making youtube videos about printing out shitty stim toys have dried up.