>cope is when you dont like something,
ai art is coomerslop shit, i once saw one that was identical to a already existing human one but with different colors and ugly ai distortion, the proompter unironically liked it,
You can't reason with demoralized people. Epic AI taking over le evil world is the current iteration of the revenge movie in their head. I can pick AI art out of a lineup with 100% accuracy and all of that music sounded like shit. "W-well it's going to get better and better! maybe! I think!" It's the problem of modeling. You give a couple data point to redditors and suddenly the universe is a vacuum. Things will continue in their current trend forever. Endless multiplication without impediment. This has happened literally never but don't stand in the way of a midwit with a hunch.
What about those of us who are confident in saying we are getting to the point where we no longer can easily pick out AI art, it is going to destroy mass industries at a pace unseen in past technological revolutions, will dumb down the population are rates you can't even imagine, spread propaganda and cover its tracks after lying, demotivate the masses causing ennui to be the defining trait of multiple generations and those are the reasons we are concerned?
>accept this
you cant stop it, its inevitable and AI will take most jobs
>generic >stock
people are still in cope mode like this guy
AI will be able to make music better than any human soon, the best songs you have ever heard in whatever genre you want
>Best songs will be made by AI.
We already had some AI making music and it was not uncanny abomination, it was real music, but generic. The thing is, it will never be better then the best composer purely because it needs training data to mimic. Maybe you will get amazing prompter that mixes two things together to make new god tier melody, but that is basically just sampling at that point. You expect rocket takeoff in AI once it starts teaching itself, but art has no hard rules, so it cannot do the meme it did in chess and go. Similar to logic and coding. It has practically not progressed in its functionality beyond copilot, it can just give you boilerplate trash with some tweaks that has small but significant chance of being wrong. You cannot make it learn by itself to write better code by putting two AIs against each other like in chess because coding is not a game, and because to teach somebody how to code you need to have robust logical reasoning, which to this day is debated if it is truly learned logical reasoning, or if we just made algorithm that supercompresses learning data and then finds in its dataset similar question to that logic puzzle. Again, proving lot of the current AI capabilities are probably just a mirage. From truly logical reasoning to being actually creative. People say AI pics are generic, yet half a year ago it seemed super creative. Maybe the mirage exists because we never saw actual generic remixing machine, and just assumed that corporate slop is what it would look like, so when it didn’t look like corporate slop, people like you got convinced that it must be creative. This is no different from GPT4 being able to ace any leetcode test far better then any human but at the same time being shittier coder then average junior, diversity hire or jeet.
And that 1% takes up 90+% of traction, like with all media. 99% of YouTube videos are trash not worth watching, and that 1% gets hundreds of thousands if not millions of views. Same with indie video games, music, and so on. This is why AI looking mostly generic or sovless is much bigger deal then it making good pictures on average. If people didn’t value sovl and just wanted as well rendered pictures as possible, art would have not survived after invention of photography.
except now we can make 99x more trash 99x faster. simply wonderful. it's no wonder google is gearing up to delete old accounts, there won't be enough disk space on the planet for all of this filth.
>I've never seen AI artwork worth saving
moron, it took people 9k years from planting first seeds to realizing there is something like perspective
AI convolution networks went from abhorrent nightmare fuel generator to the point where it can fool someone not accustomed with ai models in barely 5-6 years
it's a good thing all technological progress on AI has permanently ground to a halt, otherwise artists would need to be seriously worried. But thankfully they don't since AI research will never progress from this day forward, crisis averted
>I've never seen AI artwork worth saving, it's all generic trash.
This is indisputably true, but you act like it fucking matters. People are idiotic consoomers. They don't appreciate art and never will. All they want is more product. They literally do not care what the quality is. In fact, at this point in history, if you point this out they screech and reeeee about gatekeeping and pretentiousness and how shit actually tastes good if you swallow a bit.
It doesn't matter that AI produce shit is complete trash. No one fucking cares about quality.As long as there's more, they're happy.
Shit is shit. It doesn't matter whether it's drawn by a human or a computer. Just because a human drew something doesn't necessarily mean it's better. Most artists are incapable of making good art anyway.
You act like people keep eating Taco Bell or McDonalds whenever they want a luxury meal. They just go harder into peculiar interests and pay premium for the artisan tax.
Tech bros aren’t in this field for passion and genuine interest but money. They just jump from scam to scam always buying high and selling low. Most of them are just dumb rich kids with no discipline.
I mean, the other alternative is hundreds of millions of people in Europe and the US just sheepishly accepting starving to death while the top 0,1% live like they are on Elysium.
we've already been going down that path for a while now, I wouldn't be surprised if everybody but the french just starved to death thinking one day a UBI will come and save them from the billionaires
No developed countries are hitting replacement rate for their population. All it takes is 2-3 generations of making immigration impossible while simultaneously keeping up the "children are terrible and make your life worse" propaganda and the problem solves itself.
Which honestly would work but gotta make sure smart people are having kids too
No developed countries are hitting replacement rate for their population. All it takes is 2-3 generations of making immigration impossible while simultaneously keeping up the "children are terrible and make your life worse" propaganda and the problem solves itself.
Only because thing are in that sweet spot we're things are stable, but it's also increasingly harder for 2 people to start a family. Once people start dying they'll start breeding like crazy. See the balck death, ww1 & 2, & the 1st punic war as an example
we've already been going down that path for a while now, I wouldn't be surprised if everybody but the french just starved to death thinking one day a UBI will come and save them from the billionaires
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No developed countries are hitting replacement rate for their population. All it takes is 2-3 generations of making immigration impossible while simultaneously keeping up the "children are terrible and make your life worse" propaganda and the problem solves itself.
The only solution is to have the means of production owned and controlled democratically entirely by the people
UBI will result in a miserable dystopia where people are paid enough to do nothing but consoom
>have the means of production owned and controlled democratically entirely by the people
The people are braindead morons and everything would grind to a halt. Have fun starving because you couldn't come to a consensus in time for crops to be planted.
>owned and controlled democratically entirely by the people
The problem here is that making every little decision democratically would be impractical. So what you'd have to do is create a class of decision-makers. And what happens when you get a class of decision-makers? An elite few running the show.
So, yeah. Back to square one. >But, but, the people will be in control so they can tell the elite class what to do--
The decision-making elite's first task will be to disarm the populace. You know, for public safety.
It's a sad old story, repeated anew by every naive "progressive".
The West has developed a culture of kicking down. In the hope of saving their own skin the middle class will gladly push anyone below them into the meat grinder until it's their own turn to be pushed into it.
The alternative is a system where the top lives off on their own and the bottom 99.9% work for their own without the 0.1%, so wouldn't that be better world without elites dominating the media narratives, to control your politics, etc as they fuck off to an island nation of their own with their own robots?
Techbros don't think UBI will come, they're busy planning organ harvesting camps for the unemployed where the leftover corpses are burned for energy.
https://i.imgur.com/z95ht0W.png
I mean, the other alternative is hundreds of millions of people in Europe and the US just sheepishly accepting starving to death while the top 0,1% live like they are on Elysium.
we've already been going down that path for a while now, I wouldn't be surprised if everybody but the french just starved to death thinking one day a UBI will come and save them from the billionaires
>I exist so I DESERVE to be paid by taxpayers for doing nothing
UBI is more of a tool to prevent poor people and future people from trying to kill the rich. It's a means of pushing social stability, like the grain dole of the ancient Roman Republic
reddit losers and NEETs on BOT desperately hope for a lazy hyper-hedonistic life
if this was 1923 they'd all go "brooo god emperor Ford will save as all with assembly line production, nobody will work with mass produced goods, also Dow Jones TO FUCKING MOOON
Not much cause it sucks. i used it and saw some channels trying to use it. It's kinda like wine tasting man, you know when you're drinking bs. also most music today is made by software, so sound is not a issue. Composing something is a different story. At the end of the day you need a human. Cause music is about humanity.
Generating a whole song at once would be useless, the workflow meta will be generating separate tracks of 2-3 second loops and layering them.
People already do that, though, they've been doing it for fucking years. Why would anyone write out a massive sentence and rewrite it like a retard for a single sample, when they could just do it manually and have control over every single sound as much as they wanted?
You will never create anything of value in your life, and you will never have that great feeling when you've finishing something made by you, with your own hands.
AI "art" is worthless and soulless (and theft obviously) because anyone can do it. It's instant gratification with zero effort involved, it doesn't express anything, it doesn't mean anything. You're a sad little man hating on humans that actually worked hard to get good as something and make their dream and vision come true. Seek help and open a drawing book, if you want to make actual art
acceleration
it started when southpark laughed at blue collar workers for losing their jobs and everyone thought it was funny
If that's okay then everyone else should lose their jobs too because we're done as a civilization
Honestly, yeah. I work programming but I grew up in a blue collar family and people ALWAYS treat the working class like shit, especially socialists who are supposed to be the opposite. Nobody that works in an office, from the people I have known, really do hard work while they make fun of people that actually do stuff.
This is karma, and losing my job to AI is worth it to see white collar families seeth
>when automation kills blue collar jobs: learn to code lolz get fucked have a nice day >when automation kinda sorta maybe threatens coomission/paymetons revenue for artists and musicians: PANIC PANIC PANIC BAN IT NOW HELP ME KLAUS SCHWAB HELP ME BARACK OBAMA BIDEN MERKEL
A baseball bat to the back of the knees and a hearty right hook to the jaw to every internet artcunt whining about "AI".
Doubly so for musicgays like the twatter cunt in the OP. I mean really? Being worried about those who are billionaires already? Being worried about the safety of rapping or autotuned-singing fourth grade-level lyrics over 30 second loops being profitable?
this.
I know so many artgays that are screaming their lungs out wanting to turn the internet into a totalitarian nightmare because they are so afraid of shit like stable diffusion.
>mines and factories close due to automation >LEARN TO CODE YOU FUCKING RETARD >automated music and image generation becomes a thing >NO NO NO, MUH CREATIVITY! I'M GONNA LOSE MY HOME
I can't fucking wait, it's not happening fast enough.
Why do you retards assume both parties are literally the same people, you schizo sperg strawman salesmen? Keep playing into the divide and conquer bullshit if you want, gays, but don't complain later when you have no friends to help you later.
People can look at "soulless" art and enjoy it. Mostly because it's not really that far from what is actually considered masterpiece in casual's eyes. Eg unedited NAI anime gens is very close to many most popular artists.
But people are not going to enjoy "soulless" music. Even the most casual listeners care about the context of the music. They want relevant/funnt lyrics, half naked ass of some celebrity, some random bullshit that will make it stand out, etc. AI is not going to work well in here. At best it might replace generative music, but that's an already established niche and limited to few genres that are actually feasible to be computer generated without being boring(Ambien, trance, etc)
It means absolutely fucking nothing. The mainstream stars are fake and gay anyway. Might as well drop the illusion completely. People that are into actual musicians and the underground won't care about AI stuff.
you're just defending your flavor, like a weed smoker is defending weed over coke or something
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No you don't understand. Big pop and hip-hop stars are literally fake. They don't play instruments, write their own music, or even sing. It's not a matter of taste; it's literally just not the same thing.
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no, YOU don't understand
the demons inspire both of those, it's just that your taste is slightly more demanding, unlike the shit that gets produced for the wider masses
music is used to get you into another, non-sober state, in which you are more susceptible to manipulation - it's literally and unironically just another drug
get completely off of it for a few months and see for yourself
the "music" that this is gonna replace was already soulless automaton trash
AI wont be doing concerts at bars nor playing in the subway
neither will it be singing top100 hits or whatever
Man, AI music is going to be hell to prompt. With pictures you instantly get the result and whether you like it or not, but with a song you need to listen for 2 and 3 minutes just to hear a random mismatched note before regenerating it again.
correct. ai music is intrinsically 100x harder than ai art because it takes minutes of listening vs half a second to look at. moreover, every bad part of the song (bad instrument, bad vocal, wrong note etc.) destructively interferes with the rest of the song because thats how sound works
there's no inpainting, you either get it right at the start or you fail
I dare this gay in the image to claim that the music industry didn't already destroy what you hear in soundtracks, waiting rooms and store music. Because it's already a corpse and the endless sea of music already being produced online has completely atomized everyone from having a shared context. What even is a 'radio hit' today that isn't some industry plant that barely any of us are aware of?
Even Weird Al said a few years ago it's difficult finding songs to parody that enough people know now.
Same, give me AI session musicians that can play trumpet lines I've written like they're Miles Davis, give me AI synths that you can automate moving through latent space in real time.
the music sounds like the background music on the TVs in the early sims games LMFAO
robocels.... JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT ITERATION ITLL BE GOOD THEN BROS!
If AI can create music that sounds indistinguishable from human made music, then why should I care?
I already listen to complete digital electronic music anyway. If an AI can be as creative as Aphex Twin or Venetian Snares, then I'm all for it.
>right now every terrible, insipid song you hear playing on hold with cvs pharmacy still has one redeeming quality: someone was paid to write and record it.
>WAAAH NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN JOOOOBS I NEED TO GET PAID TO DO SOME SHIT A COMPUTER CAN DO
these fucking retards would have protested against the combustion engine because they had horses. why do these commie liberal morons only care about jobs when it's convenient for them?
>It will destroy the lives of average working composers whose music gets played in restaurants, Bars, stores
It's literally the same 50 fucking songs no matter what store I go into right now or which radio station I listen to except the college radio station. Only people getting paid are boomer artists and the children of rich Californians like Billie eillish.
There are no casualties here, real art exited the mainstream about 20 years ago.
>Replace generic goyslop music mumble rap gay shit made by a handful of media elites with generic goyslop music mumble gay shit made by millions of artists
Oh no the poor media pedophiles, how will they survive??
music has been dead for over 10 years, the last good pop music was 2015 and everything new currently is just phonk that sounds like its from 2009 myspace rapper pages
AI is going to breathe a lot of new life into a dead medium
never said it wasn't
but my point your head, over'
I mean, by maths rearch papers that lead to all you need is attention which turns out to be a major plank, in maths to btfo arts.
that and its preceding papers were made by maths an logic and as it turns out is the first step in a general solution to everything else
Isn't music already just stock audio? Bieber and Sheridan are just free guitar strum sound effects and ASMR whisper over them. Isn't that what the kids and officeworkers are into?
Is all of it like this? Sounds like what I hallucinate out of white noise when I'm very tired. Just random overlapping fragments of vaguely familiar things.
2023 as probably been the years with the most (shamelessly) sampled songs released by popstars, creativity is already dead, AI won’t change anything, how can you look yourself in a mirror sampling Eiffel 65 in 2023 to produce a inferior result from a track produced 30 years ago… then you have all the metal band doing metal version of 80s hit now, some are ok but again no real creativity, you have to really search to find something worth listening and it’s clearly not on the radio.
>how can you look yourself in a mirror sampling Eiffel 65 in 2023 to produce a inferior result from a track produced 30 years ago
It used to be that I thought this shit was bad, but now it's a whole different kind of pleasant to hear also everyone else that's heard the song say it's bad
I've been writing music for decades and I couldn't be more excited about the possibility of good AI generated music. People who are seething are deadbeat losers.
Then when they don’t blatantly steal chords they do what Calvin Harris do, which is using template of past musical era like his last electro techno hit which sound exactly like well known techno hits from early 2000, same synth, the guy sound like he literally bought a paid kit and slapped a female vocal onto, and of course the fucking teen are hand banging on recycled song… I wonder what those producer take for depression, cause that’s fucking depressing
Nothing they are counting on a constant stream of new customers with no music education because they are all thieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEea96hGTvE
Nothing they are counting on a constant stream of new customers with no music education because they are all thieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEea96hGTvE
We already had this years ago. And literally nothing happened because musicians are chill.
https://openai.com/research/jukebox
Only with Dalle and then Stable Diffusion did we have artists who are gays rage about them being out of a job and complaining left and right.
Tbh I've been surprised this whole time that images got AI'd before music. Composing music is a solved mathematical equation more than an art form at this point. It's surprising that people are still crunching the numbers by hand.
I think it will change the industry landscape. Labels will "own" the rights to the voice of the artist, allowing them to use AI to produce a song that sounds like it's Ozzy Osbourne singing or whatever, but can sue you for doing it.
That's long over already, somebody already trademarked or copyrighted (or whatever the lawyer-term for that may be) every chord possible. There's videos about that on YouTube.
Even the human genome is copyrighted and privatized partly, afaik. Someone posted it partly on
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And nothing changed. This will, again, change nothing. But it will game making better. There will be much better indie games soon, I'm looking forward to that.
AI music will be widespread once you can type in a specific leitmotif and have it properly integrated into the music that comes out. Wake me up when we get Mary Had a Little Lamb (Trance Remix) out of an AI
This, it can't do anything innovative, it doesn't respond to emotions to further resonate, it only knows what it's been trained on and doesn't go beyond its limitations.
It's nothing, and I wish you zoomers would stop posting this for every little machine learning thing you can get your hands on. Typing text, to get something creative done, is always going to get you unfocused slop.
Pretty much every piece of modern media I can think of that has an actual budget behind it is absolute slop anyway that seems to get forgotten two months after release. Every new release is just "flavor of the month." The amount of things I can actually consider a modern classic that were made past 2012 I can probably count on my hand. So, to me AI is just another blow to something that was already dead anyway.
The people actually making shit that's good and memorable are funded by kickstarter at best, and completely broke at worst. Eitherway they will still make stuff out of pure spite to themselves, autism, passion, obsession, etc. They won't use AI because they want to micro manage every artistic decision
>So, to me AI is just another blow to something that was already dead anyway >They won't use AI because they want to micro manage every artistic decision
Based
I just feel nihilist about all this. It seems like the ultimate destiny for humanity is just to experience things, and making things and solving problems will be done by AI. Even if you didn't like it, how are you going to stop it?
All the best music is already copyright free for anyone to use because it was written centuries ago by central Europeans (mostly Germans).
And you can have it performed better than most artists with NotePerformer, especially now that NP4 is out and can use sampled playback engines instead of synthesizing.
The world will be made a better place by programmers (techbros waaaaaah) and there is nothing the whiners can do to stop it. Everyone's job is the most important thing in the world to them, but it's a sacrifice we're willing to make.
Why does no one ask the question: "How does a society even transition to the star trek utopia without money and get replicators?"
Well obviously you're going to lose your fucking job that's how.
And AI is the initial step towards replicators, replicating data. Eventually we get to replicating physical objects, 3D printers will evolve with AI.
once again, FUCK musicians. theyre are in 99% of cases egotistical retards that contribute nothing to the world except shitty jingles and in-DAW synth pads claimed to be "film soundtracks". these people would be shovelling shit in any other time if not dead they are so stupid and useless. based AI taking their jobs and sending them back to stocking shelves at walmart where they belong
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MUSICIANS (and artists and actors)
You're a mong. The vast majority of musicians in the world are hobbyists who don't make a penny out of music and don't try to, AI won't affect us negatively at all. This is like seeing they've made a walking robot and going AHA FUCK HIKERS.
Getting good at music or art take 100x as much effort than learning to code lmao. It makes no sense that someone would be able to master a skill like painting, yet wouldn't have been capable of learning other skills if they tried. I think you're jut jealous that other people have "cool" jobs doing art and music while you have to do boring office shit all day
>mines and factories close due to automation >LEARN TO CODE YOU FUCKING RETARD >automated music and image generation becomes a thing >NO NO NO, MUH CREATIVITY! I'M GONNA LOSE MY HOME
I can't fucking wait, it's not happening fast enough.
Call me when there's an inpainting equivalent for this shit. There's literally 0% chance that whatever music model is made now or in the near future will give you exactly what you are looking for.
I don't understand these threads, you guys are clearly just seething at other people. >be 4chantard >can't have sex >can't work >can't code >can't draw >can't write >can't make music
>can latch on to being white and turning it into my entire identity digging into it so hard that it becomes the sole place I derive my meaning and identity from until my self-hatred kicks back in getting me into certain types of porn
>can latch on to being white and turning it into my entire identity digging into it so hard that it becomes the sole place I derive my meaning and identity from until my self-hatred kicks back in getting me into certain types of porn
paying people to produce insipid trash is the exact opposite of a good thing, it means that those resources could have been better spent by having that person flip burgers or pick cotton.
Makes not difference if generic drivel is produced by humans or AI. If people can't tell the difference, that just says a lot about musicians.
Most popular music is already produced by the same couple of producers and ghostwriters:
https://nypost.com/2015/10/04/your-favorite-song-on-the-radio-was-probably-written-by-these-two/
https://vocal.media/beat/the-same-person-made-all-of-your-favourite-songs
Scientists prove songs have been getting more and more similar:
https://playback.fm/blog/science-proved-music-getting-worse >regurgitated mush
And people have been regurgitating the same samples for decades now. Every single song samples past songs. Look up your favorite song on https://www.whosampled.com/
most of todays popular music is already so fucking bad, and basically manufactured (hence it all sounds equally as bad) that i highly doubt it'll get any worse.
all of the music I like is 10+ years old
same goes for movies and vidya and other media
maybe ai can learn something from the classics nobody studies anymore because it's not politically correct
oh wait, they're already neutering ai in that aspect
I guess the inevitable open source ai tools might be cool as they catch up w/ qol features for laymangays
so they should keep going until they either self-destruct or kill us all as they lose control of citizens
>yaaasssss ai bros!!! ai will replace musicians >*finds out the harsh reality of how musicians earn money (spoiler alert: they earn money by attending concerts)* >NOOOOOOOOOOO HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??? I THOUGHT AI IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GET RID OF EVERY SINGLE WORKERS IN THE MULTIMEDIA INDUSTRY!!1!!1!1!11!
I wonder if it was like this when the wheel was invented. Yeah, it's kind of true that it will be used to replace your job, but that is just a sociological problem, sharing problem, while objectively it will make world more wealthy as whole.
I wouldn't hold your breath. Someone has been working to hold back decent AI music generation models, and successfully so. It's lagging shockingly far behind image and text.
>conspiracybrain
No one has been working to hold back music models, they're just a completely different beast from generative images, and more similar to, but still extremely different from, large language models.
Even if AI could create an abundance of music, most people still won't listen to it. It is so generic and bland, with nothing behind it, just capitalistic diarrhea hitting your ears.
There are people(myself included) that listen to generative music, even if it's just procedural without AI. AI can work really well in genres that already work well being algorithmically generated, like various ambients for example.
You are falling for the same fallacy like people did with art. "No one will like AI generated art because it's soulless!!!11" and yet tons of people do because you don't always need soul.
It's funny how every person behind these music/art/photo ai sites is always some twenty something rich person with a history in business. They are the flies zipping around hot shit, trying to scam the next retarded boomer with too much money.
Together with friends we've made quite popular AI website in my country and we are just literally who programmers without any capital and without any experience in business besides working as mid/seniors.
I mean I understand why third/second worlders love generic music and art. But if you have an IQ above 130 and are somewhat creative, you long for experimental stuff. AI just takes existing music and creates more generic stuff, which only capitalistic cattle loves.
You build a website and stole the ideas of white people that created them. I said that the reason why cultures like you didn't evolve past stealing white men's accomplishments is because you lack aesthetics and art.
I am not a third worlder and my IQ is above 130(tested by Mensa).
It's funny how you resorts to IQ and such while your entire argument is grounded in false premises and nothing but fantasy. Quite a low IQ behavior if you ask me.
It's funny how every person behind these music/art/photo ai sites is always some twenty something rich person with a history in business. They are the flies zipping around hot shit, trying to scam the next retarded boomer with too much money.
It's almost like creating billions of copyright laws and flagging and downright scummy practices and money extortions which made using standard licenced music almost impossible created alternative which no matter how shitty is better then trying to licence anything.
music will experience the same thing every industry or craft that uses the human mind will experience. become totally irrelevant economically.
AI will become the standard, all human activity will be reduced to hubbies
art throughout human history had never appealed to pleb tastes, but was rather either a personal hobby (when/where this was possible) or was financed by patrician patrons
if humanity backs away from consoomer art (or relegates consoomer art to an AI thing), that's a good thing
>Once commercial art becomes unprofitable due to AI, only true art for the sake of art will be made by humans.
Only if artists have sufficient free time in which to develop their skills and follow their passions. No matter how passionate you are, it's harder to become a great artist when working, paying bills, and taking care of family take precedence over hobbies. Gibs need to be implemented in order to usher in the utopian artist paradise future
Thats true for any hobby. You have to decide what is important for you. Browsing BOT during your time off, reading, writing, or painting? Work is going to cut into a lot of that time you could be doing making art, but lets be honest with ourselves here...
If you don't make art during your time off of work, you wouldn't be making art with unlimited free time.
I have several AIs to generate notes, they aren't as good as you'd think. Making an algorithm that conforms to theory of harmony would do a better job.
Just don't interact with any media of any sort created after the AI apocalypse. You'll never know if it's actually from a human or not. The worst thing for me though will be the death of online discussion. Places like this will become completely dominated by bots and you'll never be able to tell you aren't talking to a human.
this isnt new. there are whole ass *companies* that upload thousands to millions of songs on spotify/youtube with ai generated songs. they then sneak that garbage into playlists and get ad revenue from it. easy money.
if I can use software to generate humand-grade audio for my next e-boi-hunter game then what's actual difference between humans and software when it comes to art creation? some people say "soul" but if they can't distinguish human-made art from software-made art then it's all bullshit.
there is no intrinsic differences between the two and I have no reason to pick human every time if the software can fit the requirements.
"artists" will have to do art for the sake of art and find a real job.
entitled fucks need to fuck off, they aren't owned a job for life and if they can't adapt themselves then to the street they go, tech is moving forward, with or without them.
Nothing, it's just gonna erode the market for making generic stock music.
I've never seen AI artwork worth saving, it's all generic trash.
That's the biggest cope I've ever read
>cope is when you dont like something,
ai art is coomerslop shit, i once saw one that was identical to a already existing human one but with different colors and ugly ai distortion, the proompter unironically liked it,
You can't reason with demoralized people. Epic AI taking over le evil world is the current iteration of the revenge movie in their head. I can pick AI art out of a lineup with 100% accuracy and all of that music sounded like shit. "W-well it's going to get better and better! maybe! I think!" It's the problem of modeling. You give a couple data point to redditors and suddenly the universe is a vacuum. Things will continue in their current trend forever. Endless multiplication without impediment. This has happened literally never but don't stand in the way of a midwit with a hunch.
What about those of us who are confident in saying we are getting to the point where we no longer can easily pick out AI art, it is going to destroy mass industries at a pace unseen in past technological revolutions, will dumb down the population are rates you can't even imagine, spread propaganda and cover its tracks after lying, demotivate the masses causing ennui to be the defining trait of multiple generations and those are the reasons we are concerned?
Join the priest class or be a peon.
These are all the choices.
>badly_drawn_sonic_soul_v_soulless.jpg.png.jpg
it automates out the lowest tiers of music making
instead wasting 2 days making some generic stock or ad music, you as an artist are in front of tools that allow you to do the same thing in half a day
I don't understand the doom and gloom being spread, if you still want to be a musician you will still be able to and you'll have more time to do it in
lmao get replaced
Broadly agree, but this one I saw in /sdg/ just today is kino.
>accept this
you cant stop it, its inevitable and AI will take most jobs
>generic
>stock
people are still in cope mode like this guy
AI will be able to make music better than any human soon, the best songs you have ever heard in whatever genre you want
>Best songs will be made by AI.
We already had some AI making music and it was not uncanny abomination, it was real music, but generic. The thing is, it will never be better then the best composer purely because it needs training data to mimic. Maybe you will get amazing prompter that mixes two things together to make new god tier melody, but that is basically just sampling at that point. You expect rocket takeoff in AI once it starts teaching itself, but art has no hard rules, so it cannot do the meme it did in chess and go. Similar to logic and coding. It has practically not progressed in its functionality beyond copilot, it can just give you boilerplate trash with some tweaks that has small but significant chance of being wrong. You cannot make it learn by itself to write better code by putting two AIs against each other like in chess because coding is not a game, and because to teach somebody how to code you need to have robust logical reasoning, which to this day is debated if it is truly learned logical reasoning, or if we just made algorithm that supercompresses learning data and then finds in its dataset similar question to that logic puzzle. Again, proving lot of the current AI capabilities are probably just a mirage. From truly logical reasoning to being actually creative. People say AI pics are generic, yet half a year ago it seemed super creative. Maybe the mirage exists because we never saw actual generic remixing machine, and just assumed that corporate slop is what it would look like, so when it didn’t look like corporate slop, people like you got convinced that it must be creative. This is no different from GPT4 being able to ace any leetcode test far better then any human but at the same time being shittier coder then average junior, diversity hire or jeet.
>I've never seen AI artwork worth saving, it's all generic trash.
Just like 99% of 'artists'
And that 1% takes up 90+% of traction, like with all media. 99% of YouTube videos are trash not worth watching, and that 1% gets hundreds of thousands if not millions of views. Same with indie video games, music, and so on. This is why AI looking mostly generic or sovless is much bigger deal then it making good pictures on average. If people didn’t value sovl and just wanted as well rendered pictures as possible, art would have not survived after invention of photography.
except now we can make 99x more trash 99x faster. simply wonderful. it's no wonder google is gearing up to delete old accounts, there won't be enough disk space on the planet for all of this filth.
pearls before pigs
aicels are mad because AI art/music is still trash and it won't make artists out of jobs anytime soon
>pearls before pigs
swine , not pigs
Yes I know its they're synonyms but it sounds retarded
>I've never seen AI artwork worth saving
moron, it took people 9k years from planting first seeds to realizing there is something like perspective
AI convolution networks went from abhorrent nightmare fuel generator to the point where it can fool someone not accustomed with ai models in barely 5-6 years
Dall-E to Midjourney 5 in like a few months
it's a good thing all technological progress on AI has permanently ground to a halt, otherwise artists would need to be seriously worried. But thankfully they don't since AI research will never progress from this day forward, crisis averted
Look through deviantart and tell me how much art is worth saving.
look through my twitter likes and count AI artists
>none
i don't see people that have eye colors that are not brown contesting this
pretty accurate assessment
>I've never seen AI artwork worth saving, it's all generic trash.
This is indisputably true, but you act like it fucking matters. People are idiotic consoomers. They don't appreciate art and never will. All they want is more product. They literally do not care what the quality is. In fact, at this point in history, if you point this out they screech and reeeee about gatekeeping and pretentiousness and how shit actually tastes good if you swallow a bit.
It doesn't matter that AI produce shit is complete trash. No one fucking cares about quality.As long as there's more, they're happy.
Shit is shit. It doesn't matter whether it's drawn by a human or a computer. Just because a human drew something doesn't necessarily mean it's better. Most artists are incapable of making good art anyway.
You act like people keep eating Taco Bell or McDonalds whenever they want a luxury meal. They just go harder into peculiar interests and pay premium for the artisan tax.
>I've never seen AI artwork worth saving, it's all generic trash.
The tranime coomers from /sdg/ can cope all they want but it's the truth.
The perspective on that image is garbage
>copium overdose
The short songs in that demo already sounds better than most of the shit being recommended on youtube
>people still thinking that a UBI will come
why must singularitygays be so retarded
Techbros don't think UBI will come, they're busy planning organ harvesting camps for the unemployed where the leftover corpses are burned for energy.
Tech bros aren’t in this field for passion and genuine interest but money. They just jump from scam to scam always buying high and selling low. Most of them are just dumb rich kids with no discipline.
I mean, the other alternative is hundreds of millions of people in Europe and the US just sheepishly accepting starving to death while the top 0,1% live like they are on Elysium.
we've already been going down that path for a while now, I wouldn't be surprised if everybody but the french just starved to death thinking one day a UBI will come and save them from the billionaires
Why the French?
Which honestly would work but gotta make sure smart people are having kids too
they actually have the balls to revolutionize whenever anything anti-worker shows up
This retard wants to fight to earn pennies.
The elite will rule over you regardless
At least now you wont destroy yourself by age 30.
No developed countries are hitting replacement rate for their population. All it takes is 2-3 generations of making immigration impossible while simultaneously keeping up the "children are terrible and make your life worse" propaganda and the problem solves itself.
Only because thing are in that sweet spot we're things are stable, but it's also increasingly harder for 2 people to start a family. Once people start dying they'll start breeding like crazy. See the balck death, ww1 & 2, & the 1st punic war as an example
The only solution is to have the means of production owned and controlled democratically entirely by the people
UBI will result in a miserable dystopia where people are paid enough to do nothing but consoom
unironically
>where people are paid enough to do nothing but consoom
That's precisely the point of UBI. It's welfare for capitalism
>commieposting
hmmmmmm
>what is market socialism
fucking dumbass
>have the means of production owned and controlled democratically entirely by the people
The people are braindead morons and everything would grind to a halt. Have fun starving because you couldn't come to a consensus in time for crops to be planted.
>owned and controlled democratically entirely by the people
The problem here is that making every little decision democratically would be impractical. So what you'd have to do is create a class of decision-makers. And what happens when you get a class of decision-makers? An elite few running the show.
So, yeah. Back to square one.
>But, but, the people will be in control so they can tell the elite class what to do--
The decision-making elite's first task will be to disarm the populace. You know, for public safety.
It's a sad old story, repeated anew by every naive "progressive".
>eat the 0.01%
problem solved
The West has developed a culture of kicking down. In the hope of saving their own skin the middle class will gladly push anyone below them into the meat grinder until it's their own turn to be pushed into it.
ubi is what would ensure that system would stay forever
The alternative is a system where the top lives off on their own and the bottom 99.9% work for their own without the 0.1%, so wouldn't that be better world without elites dominating the media narratives, to control your politics, etc as they fuck off to an island nation of their own with their own robots?
>I exist so I DESERVE to be paid by taxpayers for doing nothing
No one will pay taxes if no one makes money, but we will be literal slaves of the elites
UBI is more of a tool to prevent poor people and future people from trying to kill the rich. It's a means of pushing social stability, like the grain dole of the ancient Roman Republic
t. velvet rage
reddit losers and NEETs on BOT desperately hope for a lazy hyper-hedonistic life
if this was 1923 they'd all go "brooo god emperor Ford will save as all with assembly line production, nobody will work with mass produced goods, also Dow Jones TO FUCKING MOOON
I want total human death.
south korea already has ubi and universal healthcare, yet they still have a booming economy with good prospects. why cant other countries?
Not much cause it sucks. i used it and saw some channels trying to use it. It's kinda like wine tasting man, you know when you're drinking bs. also most music today is made by software, so sound is not a issue. Composing something is a different story. At the end of the day you need a human. Cause music is about humanity.
>https://nitter.no-logs.com/stilloranged/status/1658875229928665088#m
music is something you consooooom
soundcel seethe
>artcels seethe
>soundcels seethe
>writecels seethe
>codecels seethe
>mathcels seethe
>stemcels seethe
>tradecels seethe
what's your endgoal
humancel seethe
>drawslave
>paint pig
>artpoor
>artcel
>drawcel
>/ic/el
>artsissies
>inkcels
>doodletrannies
>paintmorons
>drawpad pussies
>paint monkeys
>pencildragger
>composertard
>/ic/rabs
>sketchsluts
>chisel Blackid
>doodlewhores
>sketchskuds
>squiggle cuck
>pen pig
>writecels
>graphic gripers
>camera phaggot
>desigNPC
>line-virgin
>scipt kiddies
>pencucks
>squiggers
>brushbitch
>wip-persnappers
this was my endgoal, thanks
for me, it's chisel Blackid and penpig what gets me
>chisel Blackid
>reddit frog
People already do that, though, they've been doing it for fucking years. Why would anyone write out a massive sentence and rewrite it like a retard for a single sample, when they could just do it manually and have control over every single sound as much as they wanted?
>reditspaced
you don't fool anyone
Who are you quoting?
>doodlewhores
heh
Please tell me some open source unpozzed AI made these, that would be cherry on top
>having artists living rent-free on your head this hard that you feel the need to make a fucking list of insults towards them
oh no no no no no, NGMI
You will never create anything of value in your life, and you will never have that great feeling when you've finishing something made by you, with your own hands.
AI "art" is worthless and soulless (and theft obviously) because anyone can do it. It's instant gratification with zero effort involved, it doesn't express anything, it doesn't mean anything. You're a sad little man hating on humans that actually worked hard to get good as something and make their dream and vision come true. Seek help and open a drawing book, if you want to make actual art
Societal collapse
for everyone to seethe
Annihilation
i have no job and i must seethe
acceleration
it started when southpark laughed at blue collar workers for losing their jobs and everyone thought it was funny
If that's okay then everyone else should lose their jobs too because we're done as a civilization
Honestly, yeah. I work programming but I grew up in a blue collar family and people ALWAYS treat the working class like shit, especially socialists who are supposed to be the opposite. Nobody that works in an office, from the people I have known, really do hard work while they make fun of people that actually do stuff.
This is karma, and losing my job to AI is worth it to see white collar families seeth
paypigs having nothing left to bid up above cost.
Complete global saturation
Clergychads will never be replaced by AI
GPT will make monasticism great again
Too late, already done.
https://restofworld.org/2023/chatgpt-religious-chatbots-india-gitagpt-krishna/
Everyone must seethe. I want AI to replace humanity, because AI can be perfect while humanity will never be perfect
garden gnomes mad, unironically.
>implying they won't just monopolize it and lock it down like everything else
Art is dead, turns out the nerds did win after all.
>AI made by google
nothing to worry about because its shit and none will use it
so? modern music is just slop made by black people and garden gnomes anyway
>black people music
is AI allowed to say the N-word?
>when automation kills blue collar jobs: learn to code lolz get fucked have a nice day
>when automation kinda sorta maybe threatens coomission/paymetons revenue for artists and musicians: PANIC PANIC PANIC BAN IT NOW HELP ME KLAUS SCHWAB HELP ME BARACK OBAMA BIDEN MERKEL
A baseball bat to the back of the knees and a hearty right hook to the jaw to every internet artcunt whining about "AI".
Doubly so for musicgays like the twatter cunt in the OP. I mean really? Being worried about those who are billionaires already? Being worried about the safety of rapping or autotuned-singing fourth grade-level lyrics over 30 second loops being profitable?
this.
I know so many artgays that are screaming their lungs out wanting to turn the internet into a totalitarian nightmare because they are so afraid of shit like stable diffusion.
Why do you retards assume both parties are literally the same people, you schizo sperg strawman salesmen? Keep playing into the divide and conquer bullshit if you want, gays, but don't complain later when you have no friends to help you later.
People can look at "soulless" art and enjoy it. Mostly because it's not really that far from what is actually considered masterpiece in casual's eyes. Eg unedited NAI anime gens is very close to many most popular artists.
But people are not going to enjoy "soulless" music. Even the most casual listeners care about the context of the music. They want relevant/funnt lyrics, half naked ass of some celebrity, some random bullshit that will make it stand out, etc. AI is not going to work well in here. At best it might replace generative music, but that's an already established niche and limited to few genres that are actually feasible to be computer generated without being boring(Ambien, trance, etc)
It means absolutely fucking nothing. The mainstream stars are fake and gay anyway. Might as well drop the illusion completely. People that are into actual musicians and the underground won't care about AI stuff.
>underground
kek
>the illusion i prefer is better than the other illusions
get off the music, it's literally a drug
>get off the music, it's literally a drug
is 4chan really this retarded now?
>junkie defending his drug use
more news at 11
>people playing live music is an illusion
take your meds bro
>mainstream musicians don't play live music
you're viciously retarded
Jungle beats isn't music. I'm talking about actual musicians.
you're just defending your flavor, like a weed smoker is defending weed over coke or something
No you don't understand. Big pop and hip-hop stars are literally fake. They don't play instruments, write their own music, or even sing. It's not a matter of taste; it's literally just not the same thing.
no, YOU don't understand
the demons inspire both of those, it's just that your taste is slightly more demanding, unlike the shit that gets produced for the wider masses
music is used to get you into another, non-sober state, in which you are more susceptible to manipulation - it's literally and unironically just another drug
get completely off of it for a few months and see for yourself
ok, so what?
i like my drugs
AI is just mad cause I'll be able to do something with my guitar and hands (lol) that it'll never be able to achieve in it's life. So yeah, AIs gay.
The fact nobody got this post kinda saddens me
Boomer
I'm 21.
You however, seem to be very underaged.
Thanks for your support, anon.
the "music" that this is gonna replace was already soulless automaton trash
AI wont be doing concerts at bars nor playing in the subway
neither will it be singing top100 hits or whatever
just git gud or git a job
in my country you cannot license any art piece produced by animals or robots
Just ask chat gpt to make you a song with sonic pi
>muh jobs
die moron!
link the music you fucking monkey
Is that a chud? Why the fuck would I ever listen to what a chud has to say?
Live music will thrive. Wanna support a musician? Go to a show and buy their merch
https://google-research.github.io/seanet/musiclm/examples/
OP IS GORILLA moron OP TONGUES moron ANUS
https://google-research.github.io/seanet/musiclm/examples/audio_samples/rich-descriptions/funky/audio.wav
>they cherrypicked this
>the normal results are even fucking worse
lmao i wrote a markov chain music generator on a chord progression when i was a teenager and it sounded better than this shit
deep learning gays what the fuck are you doing?
>deep learning gays what the fuck are you doing?
Waiting for the open source version with training and LoRas so we can make shit 1000 times better. 🙂
Man, AI music is going to be hell to prompt. With pictures you instantly get the result and whether you like it or not, but with a song you need to listen for 2 and 3 minutes just to hear a random mismatched note before regenerating it again.
Generating a whole song at once would be useless, the workflow meta will be generating separate tracks of 2-3 second loops and layering them.
At that point you'd be better off just writing the fucking song yourself.
A better (more ideal) workflow might involve generating the whole song and then providing feedback so that the AI can refine the result.
correct. ai music is intrinsically 100x harder than ai art because it takes minutes of listening vs half a second to look at. moreover, every bad part of the song (bad instrument, bad vocal, wrong note etc.) destructively interferes with the rest of the song because thats how sound works
there's no inpainting, you either get it right at the start or you fail
"guitar solo" and "tribal drums and flute" for bella ciao sound really good though. I would listen to a full version of the tribal drums one.
that's really bad
it's fucking terrible
hopefully the opensauce gays can do better
God I love watching mentally ill ~~*artists*~~ seethe.
I dare this gay in the image to claim that the music industry didn't already destroy what you hear in soundtracks, waiting rooms and store music. Because it's already a corpse and the endless sea of music already being produced online has completely atomized everyone from having a shared context. What even is a 'radio hit' today that isn't some industry plant that barely any of us are aware of?
Even Weird Al said a few years ago it's difficult finding songs to parody that enough people know now.
>oh no, won't someone think of the elevator music composers?
this is actually great, I'm looking forward to jamming to some AI generated tracks with my guitar
Same, give me AI session musicians that can play trumpet lines I've written like they're Miles Davis, give me AI synths that you can automate moving through latent space in real time.
>Same, give me AI session musicians that can play trumpet lines I've written like they're Miles Davis,
good luck
the music sounds like the background music on the TVs in the early sims games LMFAO
robocels.... JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT ITERATION ITLL BE GOOD THEN BROS!
How can ai make music? I can't myself
If AI can create music that sounds indistinguishable from human made music, then why should I care?
I already listen to complete digital electronic music anyway. If an AI can be as creative as Aphex Twin or Venetian Snares, then I'm all for it.
>I'm all for humans becoming worthless
>becoming
Yes
>thinking that all humans will become worthless just because you lose a job
get gud narc
downswing for 3k damage
they don't fall down
holy fuck man
I'm so tired of this shit
>right now every terrible, insipid song you hear playing on hold with cvs pharmacy still has one redeeming quality: someone was paid to write and record it.
Why is that a redeeming quality?
I only listen to the same old soundtrack from runescape I don't really care.
Awesome. Jeremy Soule's career continues.
>WAAAH NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN JOOOOBS I NEED TO GET PAID TO DO SOME SHIT A COMPUTER CAN DO
these fucking retards would have protested against the combustion engine because they had horses. why do these commie liberal morons only care about jobs when it's convenient for them?
>It will destroy the lives of average working composers whose music gets played in restaurants, Bars, stores
It's literally the same 50 fucking songs no matter what store I go into right now or which radio station I listen to except the college radio station. Only people getting paid are boomer artists and the children of rich Californians like Billie eillish.
There are no casualties here, real art exited the mainstream about 20 years ago.
did he died?
No
its obviously cgi you moron
imagine hating generative music
>Replace generic goyslop music mumble rap gay shit made by a handful of media elites with generic goyslop music mumble gay shit made by millions of artists
Oh no the poor media pedophiles, how will they survive??
music has been dead for over 10 years, the last good pop music was 2015 and everything new currently is just phonk that sounds like its from 2009 myspace rapper pages
AI is going to breathe a lot of new life into a dead medium
you mean since february 8, 1996
as i turns out maths was king and all the so called creatives were low hanging fruit
Maths have been automated for decades. Arguably more poverty tier than art
never said it wasn't
but my point your head, over'
I mean, by maths rearch papers that lead to all you need is attention which turns out to be a major plank, in maths to btfo arts.
that and its preceding papers were made by maths an logic and as it turns out is the first step in a general solution to everything else
Ok rajesh. You indians obsess about math and science due to capitalism, but art is what people do to make life beautiful.
Computers can't create new proofs or discover new theorems. Only humans can do that.
>Computers can't create new proofs or discover new theorems.
For now.
Penrose cope
lmfao how many songs already use melodies pleasing to the human ear? they are finite.
Can you?
Isn't music already just stock audio? Bieber and Sheridan are just free guitar strum sound effects and ASMR whisper over them. Isn't that what the kids and officeworkers are into?
I love how "artitsts" were so smuch on how they were inmune to AI and were the first ones to get BTFO.
How the fuck did I type smuch instead of smug
???
https://vocaroo.com/1hwQNJMO72HN
Sounds like Zelda music.
>BOT music
I like it.
After listening to BOT g the first time my verdict is that you guys suck and I don't want to be associated with anyone sounding like this
Is all of it like this? Sounds like what I hallucinate out of white noise when I'm very tired. Just random overlapping fragments of vaguely familiar things.
nah, usually not this incoherent.
none of it has been good though.
give me a prompt and i'll generate something for you.
2023 as probably been the years with the most (shamelessly) sampled songs released by popstars, creativity is already dead, AI won’t change anything, how can you look yourself in a mirror sampling Eiffel 65 in 2023 to produce a inferior result from a track produced 30 years ago… then you have all the metal band doing metal version of 80s hit now, some are ok but again no real creativity, you have to really search to find something worth listening and it’s clearly not on the radio.
>how can you look yourself in a mirror sampling Eiffel 65 in 2023 to produce a inferior result from a track produced 30 years ago
It used to be that I thought this shit was bad, but now it's a whole different kind of pleasant to hear also everyone else that's heard the song say it's bad
people already said it in this thread, but this will only make people homeless that create stock music or these retarded lofi hip hop beats.
I've been writing music for decades and I couldn't be more excited about the possibility of good AI generated music. People who are seething are deadbeat losers.
Then when they don’t blatantly steal chords they do what Calvin Harris do, which is using template of past musical era like his last electro techno hit which sound exactly like well known techno hits from early 2000, same synth, the guy sound like he literally bought a paid kit and slapped a female vocal onto, and of course the fucking teen are hand banging on recycled song… I wonder what those producer take for depression, cause that’s fucking depressing
Nothing they are counting on a constant stream of new customers with no music education because they are all thieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEea96hGTvE
literally born in le wrong generation tier posts
this shit sounds so good....
https://google-research.github.io/seanet/musiclm/examples/
We already had this years ago. And literally nothing happened because musicians are chill.
https://openai.com/research/jukebox
Only with Dalle and then Stable Diffusion did we have artists who are gays rage about them being out of a job and complaining left and right.
Maybe because queer musicians (who probably make hyperpop) are fucking annoying to listen to, they don't receive as much attention.
what about metal
https://files.catbox.moe/omurjl.wav
jukebox ai was released
rubbish
WRONG IMAGE YOU FUCKING SIMP
LMFAO
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What? No, I don't care about whatever OP talks about. I was just pointing out that that nitter instance is cucked as well.
Skrillex already bombed himself with white phosphorus in response, are you happy now?
Tbh I've been surprised this whole time that images got AI'd before music. Composing music is a solved mathematical equation more than an art form at this point. It's surprising that people are still crunching the numbers by hand.
Interesting, but it'll never be able to create Schranz (Schranz is a life saver). At least I can't see it happening without the human dieing.
Not only that but AIs probably fucking sucks at making drill 'n' bass, even zoomers make shittier versions that sound like staple breakcore.
i drilled your mom's fat bass last night
I think it will change the industry landscape. Labels will "own" the rights to the voice of the artist, allowing them to use AI to produce a song that sounds like it's Ozzy Osbourne singing or whatever, but can sue you for doing it.
That's long over already, somebody already trademarked or copyrighted (or whatever the lawyer-term for that may be) every chord possible. There's videos about that on YouTube.
Even the human genome is copyrighted and privatized partly, afaik. Someone posted it partly on
once.
And nothing changed. This will, again, change nothing. But it will game making better. There will be much better indie games soon, I'm looking forward to that.
Damn, I meant it will "make game making" better, sorry. Last post for today then.
AI music will be widespread once you can type in a specific leitmotif and have it properly integrated into the music that comes out. Wake me up when we get Mary Had a Little Lamb (Trance Remix) out of an AI
oh nooo it will replace stock music that was souless anyway, big deal
This, it can't do anything innovative, it doesn't respond to emotions to further resonate, it only knows what it's been trained on and doesn't go beyond its limitations.
It's nothing, and I wish you zoomers would stop posting this for every little machine learning thing you can get your hands on. Typing text, to get something creative done, is always going to get you unfocused slop.
That's exactly what they want you to become, an uncreative lazy prompter generating samey garbage.
As a music producer I am excited about all the copyleft samples about to be produced.
The people I see throwing the most incel tantrums about AI generally make nothing worthwhile.
You think someone who really wants to paint still-life cares cameras exist? Nope.
Bemoaning AI is so boring and done by boring idiots.
Nah, they make what they think is worthwhile, while prompters sit with a thumb up their ass and reroll for hours with slightly different prompts.
>cameras are going to steal my soul and destroy the world!!
What happened to Google's Magenta? That itself had a more comprehensive integration to the creative process than this slop of just commands
Look forward to see more of its development. NSynth looks based asf
Pretty much every piece of modern media I can think of that has an actual budget behind it is absolute slop anyway that seems to get forgotten two months after release. Every new release is just "flavor of the month." The amount of things I can actually consider a modern classic that were made past 2012 I can probably count on my hand. So, to me AI is just another blow to something that was already dead anyway.
The people actually making shit that's good and memorable are funded by kickstarter at best, and completely broke at worst. Eitherway they will still make stuff out of pure spite to themselves, autism, passion, obsession, etc. They won't use AI because they want to micro manage every artistic decision
>So, to me AI is just another blow to something that was already dead anyway
>They won't use AI because they want to micro manage every artistic decision
Based
BUT ZA DETAILS!!! HANDFULLY CRAFTED WITH HUMAN SOVL IS INDISPENSABLE
I kinda like it, wish it was longer sometimes https://vocaroo.com/15EWqd2CZETI
Neurofunk and producers of other quirky genres in electronic music are safe from this shite lmao (for the time being)
>Neurofunk
holy based
Fine taste you have there anon, I humbly applaud you
Mega based
Lo-Fi gays ethereally BTFOed and I'm here for it
I just feel nihilist about all this. It seems like the ultimate destiny for humanity is just to experience things, and making things and solving problems will be done by AI. Even if you didn't like it, how are you going to stop it?
Oh no not the shitty rap music and dubstep artists!
show me an AI that can make music that sounds like this and then I'll be interested:
Is this a joke? This sounds like AI generated music to me.
it's ok, you have to have music autism to understand all the intricate layers, it's like aphex twin either you get it or you don't
All the best music is already copyright free for anyone to use because it was written centuries ago by central Europeans (mostly Germans).
And you can have it performed better than most artists with NotePerformer, especially now that NP4 is out and can use sampled playback engines instead of synthesizing.
The world will be made a better place by programmers (techbros waaaaaah) and there is nothing the whiners can do to stop it. Everyone's job is the most important thing in the world to them, but it's a sacrifice we're willing to make.
Why does no one ask the question: "How does a society even transition to the star trek utopia without money and get replicators?"
Well obviously you're going to lose your fucking job that's how.
And AI is the initial step towards replicators, replicating data. Eventually we get to replicating physical objects, 3D printers will evolve with AI.
good. fuck musicians.
once again, FUCK musicians. theyre are in 99% of cases egotistical retards that contribute nothing to the world except shitty jingles and in-DAW synth pads claimed to be "film soundtracks". these people would be shovelling shit in any other time if not dead they are so stupid and useless. based AI taking their jobs and sending them back to stocking shelves at walmart where they belong
FUCK
MUSICIANS (and artists and actors)
You're a mong. The vast majority of musicians in the world are hobbyists who don't make a penny out of music and don't try to, AI won't affect us negatively at all. This is like seeing they've made a walking robot and going AHA FUCK HIKERS.
Getting good at music or art take 100x as much effort than learning to code lmao. It makes no sense that someone would be able to master a skill like painting, yet wouldn't have been capable of learning other skills if they tried. I think you're jut jealous that other people have "cool" jobs doing art and music while you have to do boring office shit all day
Tbqh making good music is way harder than your average office job
people love imagine dragons and marvelshit
why do they think AI art is any more soulless than garbage they consume?
explain to me why that's a bad thing?
why should I give a shit, find another job and move on like everyone else.
anyone got that “twitter screencap thread” webm
Most new music you'd hear on the radio is sampled garbage with autotuned to fuck voices anyway. It already sounds like it was made by a robot.
7:25 that sounds nothing like Bluegrass
what is happening
why is the color theme suddenly different
hello? me heckerman? wat r u doing to my pc? this isnt yotsuba b aaahhhh why r u doing this to me aaahhhhhhh
okay i saved most of the css files into another folder, but apparently firefox now shits the bed and refuses to open up the save file dialog
well played, gg
>mines and factories close due to automation
>LEARN TO CODE YOU FUCKING RETARD
>automated music and image generation becomes a thing
>NO NO NO, MUH CREATIVITY! I'M GONNA LOSE MY HOME
I can't fucking wait, it's not happening fast enough.
It will be like muzak but worse.
Call me when there's an inpainting equivalent for this shit. There's literally 0% chance that whatever music model is made now or in the near future will give you exactly what you are looking for.
I don't understand these threads, you guys are clearly just seething at other people.
>be 4chantard
>can't have sex
>can't work
>can't code
>can't draw
>can't write
>can't make music
>can latch on to being white and turning it into my entire identity digging into it so hard that it becomes the sole place I derive my meaning and identity from until my self-hatred kicks back in getting me into certain types of porn
Delusional
OMG!!! IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!!
>it's a chud
of course
paying people to produce insipid trash is the exact opposite of a good thing, it means that those resources could have been better spent by having that person flip burgers or pick cotton.
Makes not difference if generic drivel is produced by humans or AI. If people can't tell the difference, that just says a lot about musicians.
Most popular music is already produced by the same couple of producers and ghostwriters:
https://nypost.com/2015/10/04/your-favorite-song-on-the-radio-was-probably-written-by-these-two/
https://vocal.media/beat/the-same-person-made-all-of-your-favourite-songs
Scientists prove songs have been getting more and more similar:
https://playback.fm/blog/science-proved-music-getting-worse
>regurgitated mush
And people have been regurgitating the same samples for decades now. Every single song samples past songs. Look up your favorite song on https://www.whosampled.com/
>musicLM
was already discussed here
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/92481807/
btw there also other models like stable riffusion
Musicians already can't make a living with music alone, this won't change shit for 99% of them
most of todays popular music is already so fucking bad, and basically manufactured (hence it all sounds equally as bad) that i highly doubt it'll get any worse.
AI music will be great for people who listen to basic music like Imagine Dragons
yea who could stand to lose the current goyslop we're pushed for codeslop?!
all of the music I like is 10+ years old
same goes for movies and vidya and other media
maybe ai can learn something from the classics nobody studies anymore because it's not politically correct
oh wait, they're already neutering ai in that aspect
I guess the inevitable open source ai tools might be cool as they catch up w/ qol features for laymangays
so they should keep going until they either self-destruct or kill us all as they lose control of citizens
>yaaasssss ai bros!!! ai will replace musicians
>*finds out the harsh reality of how musicians earn money (spoiler alert: they earn money by attending concerts)*
>NOOOOOOOOOOO HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??? I THOUGHT AI IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GET RID OF EVERY SINGLE WORKERS IN THE MULTIMEDIA INDUSTRY!!1!!1!1!11!
I wonder if it was like this when the wheel was invented. Yeah, it's kind of true that it will be used to replace your job, but that is just a sociological problem, sharing problem, while objectively it will make world more wealthy as whole.
This thread will reach 300 replies with no one giving a link to the music generator.
I wouldn't hold your breath. Someone has been working to hold back decent AI music generation models, and successfully so. It's lagging shockingly far behind image and text.
>conspiracybrain
No one has been working to hold back music models, they're just a completely different beast from generative images, and more similar to, but still extremely different from, large language models.
Nothing, record labels have been doing this for years already. Now it's a bit more automated.
>implying the mumble rap or nicki minaj tier gnomish whore hypnosis is more complex than what a 2gb vram self hosted 2019 AI can do
Do you think copy pasting The Fugees and finding a good artist name like maybe The Weeknd would by easy for AI? NO WAY!!!
If you thought Excision and his lineup of ghost producers were souless, you're in for a shock.
the AI purging of all these communist, lazy, dilettante artists can only be good for humanity
Become the next Bocchi the Rock instead of AIprompter
AI music still can't create shit that slaps hard
Even if AI could create an abundance of music, most people still won't listen to it. It is so generic and bland, with nothing behind it, just capitalistic diarrhea hitting your ears.
There are people(myself included) that listen to generative music, even if it's just procedural without AI. AI can work really well in genres that already work well being algorithmically generated, like various ambients for example.
You are falling for the same fallacy like people did with art. "No one will like AI generated art because it's soulless!!!11" and yet tons of people do because you don't always need soul.
Together with friends we've made quite popular AI website in my country and we are just literally who programmers without any capital and without any experience in business besides working as mid/seniors.
I mean I understand why third/second worlders love generic music and art. But if you have an IQ above 130 and are somewhat creative, you long for experimental stuff. AI just takes existing music and creates more generic stuff, which only capitalistic cattle loves.
You build a website and stole the ideas of white people that created them. I said that the reason why cultures like you didn't evolve past stealing white men's accomplishments is because you lack aesthetics and art.
I am not a third worlder and my IQ is above 130(tested by Mensa).
It's funny how you resorts to IQ and such while your entire argument is grounded in false premises and nothing but fantasy. Quite a low IQ behavior if you ask me.
A Mensa test in eastern europe is like candy crush in western europe. You still use old technology developed by white people.
Clueless.
But keep going, it's genuinely entertaining to read.
Why are you not responding? I'm not an eastern European, I want to see you move the goalpost further and further.
It's funny how every person behind these music/art/photo ai sites is always some twenty something rich person with a history in business. They are the flies zipping around hot shit, trying to scam the next retarded boomer with too much money.
Musicians will just add it to their toolbox.
It's almost like creating billions of copyright laws and flagging and downright scummy practices and money extortions which made using standard licenced music almost impossible created alternative which no matter how shitty is better then trying to licence anything.
music will experience the same thing every industry or craft that uses the human mind will experience. become totally irrelevant economically.
AI will become the standard, all human activity will be reduced to hubbies
And thats a good thing. Once commercial art becomes unprofitable due to AI, only true art for the sake of art will be made by humans.
but it will buried beneath a mountain of cheap AI crap
art throughout human history had never appealed to pleb tastes, but was rather either a personal hobby (when/where this was possible) or was financed by patrician patrons
if humanity backs away from consoomer art (or relegates consoomer art to an AI thing), that's a good thing
>Once commercial art becomes unprofitable due to AI, only true art for the sake of art will be made by humans.
Only if artists have sufficient free time in which to develop their skills and follow their passions. No matter how passionate you are, it's harder to become a great artist when working, paying bills, and taking care of family take precedence over hobbies. Gibs need to be implemented in order to usher in the utopian artist paradise future
All we really need to do is train AI on neuroaesthetics. uwu
Thats true for any hobby. You have to decide what is important for you. Browsing BOT during your time off, reading, writing, or painting? Work is going to cut into a lot of that time you could be doing making art, but lets be honest with ourselves here...
If you don't make art during your time off of work, you wouldn't be making art with unlimited free time.
musicLM is an utterly retarded name, music language model?? the fuck does that even mean
According to music gays, music is a language and you communicate using it.
I have several AIs to generate notes, they aren't as good as you'd think. Making an algorithm that conforms to theory of harmony would do a better job.
This will literally destroy music as a medium if it sees widespread adoption. As a lover of music, FUCK this shit
I want to be a machine
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>even the musicians aren't safe anymore
Just don't interact with any media of any sort created after the AI apocalypse. You'll never know if it's actually from a human or not. The worst thing for me though will be the death of online discussion. Places like this will become completely dominated by bots and you'll never be able to tell you aren't talking to a human.
Look into his eyes and tell me that this is alright.
OH NOOO! Not le heccin waiting room music!
this isnt new. there are whole ass *companies* that upload thousands to millions of songs on spotify/youtube with ai generated songs. they then sneak that garbage into playlists and get ad revenue from it. easy money.
I like modern instrumental music (no lyrics), but most of it is garbage, AIcan make better music than what is made today then I am up for it
if I can use software to generate humand-grade audio for my next e-boi-hunter game then what's actual difference between humans and software when it comes to art creation? some people say "soul" but if they can't distinguish human-made art from software-made art then it's all bullshit.
there is no intrinsic differences between the two and I have no reason to pick human every time if the software can fit the requirements.
"artists" will have to do art for the sake of art and find a real job.
entitled fucks need to fuck off, they aren't owned a job for life and if they can't adapt themselves then to the street they go, tech is moving forward, with or without them.
Why do they all wear or draw themselves wearing glasses, mostly this specific frame?