>Twitter trannies are now starting a political movement against AI art on twitter
Everyone, post the best artist seethe you got
>Twitter trannies are now starting a political movement against AI art on twitter
>Twitter trannies are now starting a political movement against AI art on twitter
Everyone, post the best artist seethe you got
I'm an artgay and I never got this argument because collages are considered art. And even if they weren't the ai art is so far removed from the source material that you can't even tell what it's mashing together. Artists need to humble themselves
you actually have to be pretty careful with collage art in any commercial context because you can get slapped by copyright holders just like hiphopgays do with music samples. obviously if you're small time or just doing a school project or something you wont have a problem but once actual money and eyeballs start getting involved you really want to cover your bases.
the laion database in of itself is a pretty flagrant violation of data privacy, idk if it even meets the scrutiny of the standing eurocuck laws
what's extra retarded is some NBA players have tattoos that the tattoo artist owns the rights to so you can't even publish photos of the person's skin without the tattoo artist's permission.
>the ai art is so far removed from the source material that you can't even tell what it's mashing together.
stop, you're embarrassing yourself, the "AI" (which it isn't), is spitting out images will artists name visible in bottom corner of the image
>will
with*
nice falseflag
4chan is taking the wrong approach laughing at salt. this is an opportunity to turn "artists" against technology in general and should not be wasted
TED was a retard schizo, the future will be awesome because AI will do everything and I can live as a NEET.
Thats very nice and I wish that for you, but art should be defended at any cost.
Dream on. If Ai takes jobs it's not like those people retire. There are just less jobs for us to fight over.
People would be better learning wood working at this point, we're basically speciating now to transhumanists and those left behind will be at the iron age of technology if they're lucky.
they could always just paint. ai can only compete with digital medium
False. A robotic arm can take an AI prompt output and paint it on canvas
no it can't. it can produce a digital painting, but we don't have anything producing real paintings with any kind of quality right now
https://www.ai-darobot.com/artwork
lol hardly anything. might as well be a dot matrix printer
You think it won't get better? And you underestimate how tasteless normies are. They'll eat this shit up
they won't notice a thing because most of modern media is subhuman garbage, but books it cannot produce
It probably can produce books soon.
of course it will get better, I was saying that it does not exist right now. if you're afraid of AI just pick up a paint brush and make some art, the computers currently cannot compete and won't be able to for who knows how long
In a previous post I said I don't have a hat in the ring. I have a day job. I'm a fine artist but I see the writing on the wall.
THIS
And now that Tube babies are being made this is an aboslute win for NEETS
i would be a tradgay but the avenues for income are even more controlled by garden gnomes and women than digital art
Name me a single artist irl who created something new and not based on 1000 images he have seen in his life
Everything is iterative. Should we all just die because there isn't anything 100% original to accomplish?
Nö but that argument was stupid
yes kys
I drank 8 tequila old fashioneds’ and ate a 32oz steak last night, and the slposhy walrus raspberry shit I’m taking right now is as iterative as anything Andy Warhol would paint blindfolded with a wasp up his ass.
On that note idk what AI art is
Art as a whole is a combination of real things and the ability of humans to create and invent.
Hunter Biden (Self-Proclaimed)
I feel like this some next level cope. AI art has been some of the most interesting, creative, and complex stuff I have ever seen. If human art was so good it would always be blowing peoples minds, but it doesn't. It's just fucking shit.
Even how AI art is so damn good its done more to drive conversation an thought more than any shitty artists doodle garbage on some backwater site has done for the past 50 years lmao.
It's all based on existing stolen art. You just needed an interactive experience to enjoy art. Game-ify for the morons.
Originality isn't even real and it doesn't matter. Everything is based off something. Everything is borrowed, re-tooled, repurposed. Inspiration comes from all things. You do not own inspiration. You stupid fucking moron.
>Originality isn't even real and it doesn't matter.
ask the AI to write an original novel on a subject matter that requires expert knowledge
>originality isn't real
Subtle comedic elements, nuance, and personal life experiences are non visual elements that can influence a piece
>It's all based on existing stolen art.
I love how artlets spout this lie
There is not a single pixel of stolen art in any AI model currently being used. If that was the case it wouldn't really be Machine learning.
The Prompting will continue until artist morale improves.
Artgays hate when postmodernism is used against them. According to the standards they themselves made almost a century ago, simply writing a prompt for the AI machine to make is in fact art
I SEE AN EXTRA FINGER~
AI was always meant to take over the creatives work because art has as much objectivities as subjectivities. Billions of prices of art are on the internet, and billions more ideals of innovation in art float around either as art itself or as things such a as essays and discussions. Any AI connected to the internet can look at this innovation as well as look at previous examples of art and create or mimick what it seems is acceptable to humanity using metrics such as "likes" or heighten discussion on particular prices.
Meanwhile and ironically work such as monotonous physical labor or even worse like analytics requires human subjectivity that an AI would be hard at actually replicating. There are already issues right now where AI comes up with the most hilariously racist and sexist plans for slightly lowering crime, do you think a business is going to have those programs up when asking what to do in their business strategy? No they are going to at best have a hybrid of both AI and human interpretation of AI calculations, but mostly won't bother with having an AI tell them that slaughter of the Black population would do well with sales of IRA's and instead just have their own analyst come up with a plan.
>AI art looks like trash and has no taste
>AI art is stealing our jobs
Pick 1
They probably realize that it's both:
>Their art is trash and has no taste
>AI can make same or better for cheaper
so whats your career anon
I automate various tasks, which partly includes machine learning. Believe me or not.
you’ll be out of work by 2030
Sure, why not. I have already relearned my trade couple of times.
Corr but a little to rich for my taste
sure, let's add thicc and some tame fetish stuff too.
> Horrors beyond comprehension
The ride never ends!
here's your elder god greta. :3
this planet needs exterminatus to purge the demonic presence
Holy fucking salt overdose.
This is the same argument they used against piracy.
I like how they showed that the ai physically stole from their art when at best it simply makes a copy
>you wouldn't download a car
This.
The underlying point the seething artists make is that no one cares about their feelings, that's what all the "has no soul" "deeper meaning" etc arguments are essentially about: "Why I did this" "What did I mean by this" "This is important to me"
Whereas the person looking at it usually doesn't care. And if the person did care, then artists have nothing to worry about, because people would reject all the AI art for not having any "meaning" behind it. But they don't and that pisses them off.
Here's what an artist is actually doing.
>"Why I did this"
Because my employer/patron asked me to.
>"What did I mean by this"
I just follow the guidelines of the company/art director
>"This is important to me"
Because I need to pay my bills.
If the motivation makes art, the making art in this context (such as on tv sets, within a video games studio, etc), then these people are not artists even if they claim to be. Otherwise, both them and AIs are prompted to make a mashup of ideas and concepts into a piece of art. Artists know that's what's really going on and that's why they are pissed that a machine can (or will be able to) do the job their boss would've asked them to do instead.
Artists are just pretentious, pompous and egotistical narcissists. When reality hits back and pops their dream bubble, all they can do is cry like the babies they are instead of having been proactive in adapting/preparing themselves to what was obviously coming for them.
It's more like:
>"Artist" draws a picture.
>New artists looks at the picture and sees how they draw a face, how they draw hands, ect.
>New artist looks at another picture.
>New artist sees a trend.
>New artist applies the same techniques to their new drawing.
It's exactly the same concept for an AI except a human can only look and imitate so much in a day where as the AI can do countless in a second.
They haven't touched your work. Just looked at it.
Ai doesn't conceptualize anything. It doesn't learn from art. It copies features and learns to reproduce it. Nothing like a human. The Ai isn't actually intelligent. It follows its programming.
And if it wasn't for human artists to feed it data the Ai wouldn't produce anything anyone would be interested in
The amount of "muh ai" retards who do not get this is astounding. I refer to it as algorithmic integration as oppose to artificial intelligence. The day a chatbot or artbot makes inquires to me unprompted is the day I'll pay attention, otherwise ~~*AI*~~ right now is just mass hoarded data sorted quickly in a given constraint
yeah, every day there is a "this chatbot is sentient!" thread from a retard who doesn't realize it's just spitting back relevant text to answer their prompt
While we can argue about that. I will generate some images with the software, kek
So another human didn't teach you how to speak or what a crayon is for? Cope. We all learn from each other, just because you think you're special doesn't mean AI shouldn't.
If a human artist had never ever seen any other humans’ art, could they create ?
when you write your own story, hopefully you don't start it by copying a whole paragraph from someone else, unless its a quote in foreword
Or you’re a plagiarist. Idk how I made it through college without getting caught.
>Idk how I made it through college without getting caught.
I did it by properly attributing all the references
That isn’t what ML does either
You may not copy them wholesale, but the ideas you are probably think have been already recorded, implied, or maybe even outside said word for word but in where you wouldn't even find. An AI connected to the internet can see this too and create using that information. Is your idea of "creation" something entirely new? Because if that is true then art stopped 'creating' a long time ago
I have no problem with Ai art. It's all about the loain dataset that's full of stolen art. There is plenty of free images, stock photos and if they made teaching the ai opt-in I imagine lots of people would want their art represented. The ai doesn't learn like a human. I see a piece of art and I'm inspired. So I take all my experience, taste, view as a human and put my own spin on that image/style. There is no comparison with ai in this case as it has no unique view or meaning to express. It's not intelligent. It's a glorified photobasher.
All sounds nice but how do you know how much of what you put into a picture is necessarily what others get out ? I think the value is more determined by the person who wants to use the picture , if I need ‘a picture of a cat in a field with a broken bike’ and a computer can provide that in a fraction of a second, what additional value does the stuff you’re talking about bring when the end result achieves all that was required of it anyway
>ect.
It's etc.
Fucking Reddit zoomers
Not reading all that
The entire premise of that little comic strip is a total lie lol, is this the only way these dogshit artists can justify their existence? Pretending their work is being subtracted from?
>liberal memes
Also, artist blatantly ripped off Cal-Arts style lol
These morons do not understand how much the internet loves piracy
and you don't understand how litigious commercial operators are for having their designs copied and resold
>spend decades pirating movies
>"oh no my picture is theft"
It might be, I'm certain that I do not care.
Inspiration != Theft.
Trannies are always fucking retarded and wrong about everything.
>Inspiration != Theft.
here, commercial operators are very litigious about theft of design patters by competitors
Fixed
10/10
Realistic gem
LMFAO
BUTLERIAN JIHAD NAO
>checkmate tradecucks, looks like your job got automated out of existence 🙂
>what do you mean art is getting automated too? this is theft!
Someone fed AI music generator Nirvana songs and it made new Nirvana songs.
They aren't bad. I never liked Nirvana that much so it sounds just as good as them to me.
https://www.g0fundme.com/f/protecting-artists-from-ai-technologies
LMAO LMAO LMAO
once big tech fully moves into this art generation thing one lobbyist will not be close to good enough
You chuds are banned from furaffinity now
Remove the dataset that was stolen and continue developing AI art. No one cares about AI art. It's all about the stolen data set.
>No one cares about AI art. It's all about the stolen data set.
COPE, not true and you know it
I'm a fine artist. Ai art doesn't threaten me financially. And I have a day job. So yes. It's about the stolen dataset.
Kek, AI does not steal anything from you. It looks at your art and finds inspiration, reference, data to source from, just like a human does. Because it's exactly the way it was supposed to be like, you know. Like a human.
If I'm allowed to look at your artwork and find inspiration for my project, then I'm also allowed to write my own AI script that does the same thing but faster for me.
Now, the real argument is that you're being replaced, just like a lot of programmers will be (my case). With that, the simple question is this: If I want a product X, why should I pick you instead of the AI?
The only right answer to that would be:
1) You do a better job
2) You do it cheaper
3) We pay you to keep you on social welfare so your life has a pseudo-meaning and you don't die out of hunger
We are rushing through the first 2 and we are almost at the 3rd
its not an AI and it cannot create
You're brain is just a collection of chemical compounds and neurons. What's your point?
I am currently about 27 novels deep in the military science-fiction book series I am reading, this "AI" cannot even create a general plot outline for one story
and the story contains deep fakes as part of the plot, first parts written in 1990s
>its not an AI and it cannot create
It's AI and it does create. At moment x I had 0, and at moment y I had something, that's creation.
>False
Yea, you're just a gay.
>I'm a fine artist but I see the writing on the wall.
What's the writing? That AI is taking over? We all know that you retard.
> It looks at your art and finds inspiration, reference, data to source from, just like a human does
False
You don't know how machine learning works.
.
They literally cannot stop me lmao.
>They literally cannot stop me lmao.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/stability-ai-plans-to-let-artists-opt-out-of-stable-diffusion-3-image-training/
We will purge our art from your database. You can't stop us nazi chud. STABILITY AI ALREADY CONFIRMED.
they can't even do that since art scrappers are running 24/7
You're right it's the for profit stuff that can be stopped. The dataset is out there. Versions of SD are in the wild and can never be taken back. But you can't produce movies to sell or make any product using versions of Ai that contain illegal datasets. That's the goal
if you mean paywalled content, no even that gets stolen fast.
It's all about Intellectual property law. Do you really wanna live in a world without artists? It's one of the last spaces for true free speech. Do you want CIA/government to produce all our art? If all art is to you is a pretty picture then embrace the Ai. It will do this for you.
>Do you really wanna live in a world without artists?
>If all art is to you is a pretty picture then embrace the Ai.
I mean..
>Intellectual property law.
99.9% of the artists bitching about AI are burger-flipper level artists. They were never going to launch their own IP. They are slaves and work for corperate media companies to make remakes owned by ((others)). If they rock the boat their careers are canceled. These people will be replaced so fast its comedic. pretty sure a percentage of them will become redpilled through this experience.
ip matters even for burgerflippers anon because if you are a digigay, copyright is literally the only product you are actually selling. copyright is how you make money as an illustrator
Artists don't die with ai. Great artists will become greater with proper ai use. These simple idiots don't practice actually thinking, only outrage.
> Great artists will become greater with proper ai use
I see people say this but what does it actually mean
bump
I do these on a linux server in my basement using SD/pytorch not connected to public internet and not requiring any outside connection.
>Yes, they literally cannot stop me lmao
nobody wants the AI shit but chink whores, fuck off back to your gutter kim
https://huggingface.co/JosephusCheung/ACertainThing
>Anything3.0 is an overfitted model that takes liberties when it shouldn't be generating human images and certain details. However, the community has given it a high rating, and I believe that is because many lazy people who don't know how to write a prompt can use this overfitted model to generate high-quality images even if their prompts are poorly written.
lmao, poojeets literally BTFO
Anyone know where to create AI art? I've heard about it but never really dug deep into it.
Go to BOT and find /sdg/
>Local Install
Nvidia GPU: https://rentry.org/voldy | https://github.com/AbdBarho/stable-diffusion-webui-docker
AMD GPU: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
CPU: http://rentry.org/cputard
There is also prepackaged AI generators being made but you'll need to visit their discord to use the correct settings/prompts so just still with building the one on BOT
https://nmkd.itch.io/t2i-gui
stick with building the one on BOT*
You ''art'' will be useless Ching Chong, you enemy of humanity. KEK
You will never be an artist XD
How will a female artist survive if smearing her menstrual blood on a canvas is displaced by AI art based on structure, detail and internal logic?
https://www.tiktok.com/@thiefkings?lang=en
What is with adults exchanging bad drawings like they're still at the back of the school bus in 3rd grade? "I had this drawing commissioned of my MMO character!" gay
Welcome fellow chuds we were expecting u to stop following the science
Its not just chuds, don't just group all artists together. Its so fucking retarded how people here are all blackpilled on ai voiding themselves of meaning but at the same time fully willing to shoot themselves in the foot because some artists are screaming lefties. Trying to "own the artists" does nothing but push technology to overrule us.
There's no stopping it, it's too late. There's no way to ban it, so what's the point in protesting? The thing is, the AI will eventually encompass everything, not just art. We are all fucked. But I'm not concerned, I see no point worrying about it, because it does nothing.
Anyway, I think most people cheering and enjoying the artist tears here don't really understand that art is just the first step (not so many years ago people thought art would be the last and unconquerable step for an AI, which just shows how much people generally underestimate the tech)
Your defeatist attitude lacks nuance. There are ways of telling and analysis that can be done to determine whether its ai or not. Also almost every ai artist I've seen on platforms don't come from normal artwork backgrounds, if you go to their profiles or histories they usually start by drawing stick figures then all of the sudden they draw big breasted anime waifus out of nowhere. The ways of telling cannot be more obivous. Additionally screenings and metadata can be added to confirm where it is from or if it is from an ai or not. (e.g. you have a psd file to go with your work).
No you don't understand. It doesn't matter if you can determine whether it's made by AI or not. Because the consumer of it doesn't care.
It's not defeatist, it's just the reality of it.
Let me ask you this: when was the last time you bought something metallic that was handmade, are the forks in your house done by a blacksmith? How about your glassware, was that manually made? Wooden things made by hand? Do you really care how it's made? Do you base majority of your purchases on whether it was factory made or made by hand? You probably don't.
Sure you know whether your shoes were made by a local shoemaker or have soles injection molded and sewn together by a machine or some child worker somewhere in Asia, but you don't really care, all you care about is that it does what it is supposed to do.
Then there's the manufacturing cost, which directly affects the prices - you wanna buy $20380 handmade knife with imperfections, or do you buy the $70-150 one that is better quality.
Ideally it would be nice to live in some artisan village with locally sourced everything, but that's not how any of us really live.
You're comparing something with utilization to something that has meaning behind the pieces. A consumer of art doesn't use a painting to mow their lawn. If you're gonna use a false dichotomy you found cut and paste from a subreddit plz try harder
No you idiot, art is just the beginning.
And yes art has utility to it's viewer; I never cared WHY Van Cogh painted what he did, the only thing I care about what the paintings make me feel, and what meaning do I assign to it; what meaning the painting has for me.
This same applies to AI art, the art than an AI makes can make me feel things, it can make something I want to look at. That's all people really care about.
Ask pretty much anyone if they like a painting by someone, then ask what was the motivation of the artist to make that particular piece, I bet most people don't know or care to know. They look at art for themselves, not for the artist.
People's feelings are separate from the artist's feelings, which means people can feel things even if the artist had none to begin with.
But this is easily provable, let's see if people stop doing the AI art thing.
I bet they don't. I bet more forms of entertainment will be made my AI algorithms.
Artwork made by artists is supposed to be an illustration of the inner psyche. Your postmodern view has clouded your judgement
>I bet more forms of entertainment will be made my AI algorithms.
this isn't AI, we're still gigaparsecs away from that
it can't even create a few paragraphs of a story, never mind a 30 part novel series
This is actually true and bit sad. The story writing AI's tend to be really harebrained and forgetful about the context. I'd guess same continuity problem would be for video format.
Still, image generating has taken huge leaps just during this year.
mono-brow pumpkin
>this isn't AI,
We are already creating images from words, what makes you thing you can't create series of images from words? We can create voice, sounds and music too. You clearly don't understand how neural networks work, but let me give you a crash course:
>you initialize random weight values
>you feed it input data
>you tell it what output data that input is supposed to produce
>the input goes through the weight values and produces an output
>calculate the error between the produced output and the desired output
>make adjustments based on the error value, so on the next iteration he error is smaller
>do this 6 gorillion times until the error is small enough
>the network is now trained to handle new unseen inputs
This process can be done with ANY data, you just have to clarify what are the distinct inputs. Now comes the fun part: you can chain and combine multiple different networks.
>we're still gigaparsecs away from that
We really are not.
>it can't even create a few paragraphs of a story, never mind a 30 part novel series
You've been living under a rock. Check GPT3
I studied computer math and cryptography, and I recommend you read up on "garbage in, garbage out"
waiting to see it, I will put it to a proper test as avid sci-fi reader
Well, you've studied those things, I've programmed rudimentary versions of neural networks for a living. It wasn't so long ago when people said it can never paint a picture it can't produce art, I tried to tell people that it can and very soon. They thought art was the final barrier it cannot break, but it was one of the very first ones.
People have a hard time grasping how the AI is able to do things, let me put it this way: how did you learn to do write english online? By watching others do it, or by watching movies etc. The same applies to art, to music, you learn by seeing/hearing it. An AI does that, but with VASTLY more accurate interpretation of that data, and astronomically larger data sets (songs listened). There are already services that generate visual art from keywords as seen on this thread and all over the net, or essays, or reddit posts from few verbal instructions like "generate a Reddit AITA about me selling stolen fish because of greed, in the writing style of Shakespeare" and the AI does that.
this isn't AI, you fucking marketing department subhuman
>I studied computer math and cryptography
And you obviously failed at both.
my math and programming teachers were gud at their jobs and started from the very basics and history
AI is completely unable to come up with unseen, original, coherent and meaningful for humans outputs.
Why are we fucked? The thing about economy in it's basis is that it is necessary to work because there is scarcity. The moment there is no scarcity, there is no need to work, and humanity will adapt to that in the end, in the same way it adapts to everything.
Most jobs are already bullshit anyways
Shut the fuck up, libtard. Now fire up your AI engines and prompt me some giant anime titties. You gay.
i know you retards think this will own the chuds but it is primarily gonna fuck over working artists who shut the fuck up about politics and just make shit, especially if they are male and any shade paler than zimmerman.
the goyslop machine will simply give hr cunts more leverage to be nepotistic and hire their looneytoon friends 'to dunk on the gamers'
>Is gonna fuckover artists that just make shit
And how many of those "Artists"arent raving liberals?
plenty. people who would've been sculptors or portraitists 200 years ago work in film and vidya now because it is the only place where you can be a realismgay and earn a stable living. if you don't want to get blacklisted from everything like tennaple then you just shut the fuck up, keep a low profile and paint.
the right does not currently have anything that constitutes an actual cultural project, it barely has a counterculture. if you want to make shit there really is no kind of patronage network in place other than to work for libtards
>Work for globohomo to Own globohomo
See how stupid this sounds??
tell me how the great rightoid project of abandoning every institution and getting fucked in the ass has been working out so far
Better alone than with bad company
Aka it works
Now AI lets right wing people with actual jobs create art in 10 seconds. So why do we need a "patronage network" anymore?
Exactly. Artists need to get real, productive jobs now. If you can't make enough money doing something economically productive to fund your art hobby, then I doubt you have enough passion and drive to ever become actually talented at it. If nobody actually wants to buy your art on an open market then it's time to stop playtending as an aristocrat by living on the dole and producing shitty art that nobody wants. The next frontier of artists will need both aesthetic and digital expertise. They will treat AI as a tool and will master the tech to generate art at orders of magnitudes of more output. The conquest of art by human-AI symbiosis has enormous metaphysical implications for future societies.
Exactly....I wouldn't be suprised if most of the people posting their "opinion" either are either fed bots that want people to shoot themselves in the foot or individuals who want to follow the status quo of what their favorite alt-light streamer wanted them to believe
>artists who shut the fuck up about politics
As far as I can tell these people are entirely hypothetical and may not even exist.
art directors have stated outright that they will stalk your feeds & social media 'to make sure you're not an asshole'
trust me when i say anyone who isn't a massive sperg like torba get the message and took it to heart
>the goyslop machine will simply give hr cunts more leverage to be nepotistic and hire their looneytoon friends
This. No-skill corperate wives will be our new art directors. If you want to work in entertainment forget art or writing, just suck dick.
I am right wing and I take the side of the artists. AI sucks.
Some of this stuff can be used to spark new ideas for the human artist.
Thank god, I thought everyone here was just an npc who just followed the opposite of the current thing.
Immigrants stole my job these leftists can suck my dick if a computer is taking theirs
A.I. is going to put me completely out of business. I don't know what I'm going to do. I have like 6 months I wager.
If we allow this to happen unchecked we are all essentially training our ai replacements. There is no neet life awaiting us.
They are going to have to give UBI, but in part this is why they are killing us all.
Oh no, not the hecken Tumblr fan artists!
How is this any different about artists taking inspiration from other artists and so on?
No diference,just that "Artists" are salty bitches who cant accept the future
~~*artificial intelligence*~~ is literally just a gnomish trick. a machine cannot be inspired, it interprets and transforms data to correspond to keywords based on a formula. this is why chat gpt and the pajeetbots can both get fundamental concepts completely wrong because there is no actual thinking or conceptualization going on. it is simply doing google searches for hypothetical objects
Ai should replace artists because ai doesn't complain about its life on social media more then it makes art.
AI art looks like shit and will never compare to what a decent artist can shit out. It's also incredibly easy to spot. Who's upset exactly? Shit tier "artists" who will never make it?
Shut the fuck up chud, only trannies think AI drawings are ok because they cant fucking draw
>Imagine actually believing this
I am sure you are the reincarnation of Da vinci isnt?
The artists actually worth their salt don't need to worry about Ai replacing them. Its literally only people who's portfolio is comprised of works that are as equally mass produced and plastic as ai art is that are afraid right now.
It's a skill issue, and most artists are unskilled.
Remove loain dataset and establish an opt-in to be added online and I have no problem with Ai art.
Reminder that almost all modern artists are complicit with destruction of all media industries and are accomplices in gayry and other garden gnome propaganda in movies, tv shows, games, music, comics, schoolbooks, cartoons, etc.
I mostly read (listen) books nowadays
Books also get new editions and those editions more often than not have editors and proofreader that come form academia or are just directly paid to twist meaning or obfuscate things in the books they work on.
In similar vain to your response
>I dont care about comics I read manga
Said some sod 20 years ago. Now look up the scandals with gays translating some anime and hentai and mangas today.
Or even take some Greek classics like Plutarch and Parallel lives, some newer editions obscure certain religion and race of certain characters and you just read it and scratch your head not understanding why he does things the way he does them as you dont see two important motives.
I pity people that do not understand at least two languages.
>eat artificial chemically produced goyslop that replaced naturally grown farm vegetables and meat
>protest artificial art
Why are trannies like this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ersatz_good
Humans first simple as.
Shut up goy
garden gnome commie picks commie garden gnome flag.
Go figure.
Just wait until AI replaces garden gnomes. Nothing original about grubbing for money.
There's already writing AIs out there ffs. They didn't care then or now.
They've been writing news articles and opinion pieces for 5+ years already, too.
>art directors have stated outright that they will stalk your feeds & social media 'to make sure you're not an asshole'
Artists should threaten them right back then, "try that shit and know I have your home address motherfucker". Why would anybody submit for even an instant to that kind of treatment? Each threat deserves one in return.
An actual artist with genuine skill and depth doesn't fear the machine, only complete amateurs and shysters are worried about AI art.
>prompt: a big beautiful cake
NO STICK FIGURE, HER HAND IS PART OF THE PLATE, ITS A TRAP
Replace the BBC with anything like pic rel and it's perfect
oof, I didn't go to art school, so I can't do that style, also it took 10 hours in mspaint
not how it works
god these guys are such gays
not like they have spent the majority of time copying other artists
i mean taking reference of course
everybody copies,copied and will copy everybody else
AI is just a thousand times better and faster at it
This has to be a false flag parody of the two cakes comic
right? They can't possibly be *this* retarded and tone deaf can they?
maybe they could put their furry porn jpegs on some kind of blockchain to prove ownership... they could call them Black gay Tokens to promote diversity and protect them from being stolen by big scary robot AI.
Oh I like this. Like a god stab at the people who would be for the unjust laws of copyright.
You're 39. A Honduran family offered $1500 for your room. You're my son so you can match that or get out. No, your art isn't going to "take off any time now."
I would have been up sooner but Mike Rowe was on Fox again.
Don’t artists get inspiration and learn from copying others ? Like musicians learn by learning other songs and then from all the little parts they can come up with their own , just like I learned to code by reading code other people wrote , but if you instead view it as a data problem and send that source data into a machine into a person WAAAHHH THIS IS COPYING!! ,,, you mean like you do with your brain?!
garden gnomes want to outlaw any form of copying.
>Don’t artists get inspiration and learn from copying others ?
and sometimes they release the same general story again in different setting with improvements, but its still something they made themselves, this "AI" (which it isn't), even copies defects to its output
Artists need to accept that "take other people's images and mash it together into something else" is what they've been doing their entire lives.
This is false because the ai isn't human.
Just posted Mexican Star Wars and I'm already getting downvotes from the anti-AI crowd
https://imgur.com/gallery/51LQP2T
Thank you for this KEK
It's been up for about 5 minutes, and I'm already gotten two "fuck A.I. art"? posts. Whats with these people?
These people are either retards who jump on a trend to "protect muh artists" (whom they are not even protecting) or they are shit "artists" who feels that their job is on the line despite previously claiming that it was good that everything would be automated
Most artists are posers and feel threatened.
I already killed my 3060 12G, I love this shit.
/real artist btw
If you like that. I'm considering making Avatar : The Way of Wakanda
>https://imgur.com/gallery/51LQP2T
It would have been awesome if one of the pics was the inside of a ship with a bunch of fringe glued up around the top. And some name stenciled on the windshield
Can you make stormtroopers with sombrero helmets lol?
I still find it funny how everyones laughing at ai art fucking over artists but then you go over to BOT and everyone's treating gpt like the end of their careers and nobody is celebrating. Ironic isn't it?
The only ones who celebrate are pajeets and neets, anon.
AI Art is freedom from the garden gnome controlled content creator.
A new Renaissance is upon us where art is dependent on only your ideas and not just the talent of the few.
Lol retard. Art does not belong to anyone. The garden gnomes are the ones who created AI, to destroy creativity in humans.
>Art does not belong to anyone.
yeah, I don't care if you copy it for yourself, but when you sell it commercially, other commercial operators are extremely litigious here, the bedsheet and curtain makers are outright cut-throat
>Art does not belong to anyone
copyright about to expire on earliest mickey mouse works, public domain soon
Never, disney yids have been extending those trademarks indefinitely for years. Mickey will never be permitted into the public domain, not as he is. You can have Steamboat Willie though, I think the rights to him expired.
no
retroactive
laws
Laws are whatever gnomish lawyers say it is over here. No rule is hard enough that they cannot breech it for their own self-justified reasons.
Do Lego Schindler's List
you're wrong, few things I remember from business law
You can say that, but Disney is still holding onto that Mickey trademark despite it having already long-since passed the original expiration date. It's extended, again and again, forever. You're acting as if there are hard and fast rules that megacorps MUST operate under, that is very clearly not the case now if it ever was.
no retroactive laws is as strict as it gets, if it gets denied, you might as well start killing people
>you might as well start killing people
Anon there are far more important reasons that we are already at that point than copyright abuse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
As soon as it is needed, a new act will extend the copyright another few decades. Some will complain, others will ignore it, media will justify it to the average viewer. These people rig elections and topple nations, they're not going to be defeated by a piece of paper with strong words on it.
unenforceable, invalid law
>"I'm right because, I just am okay?!"
You will be surprised when Mickey does not enter the public domain, I will not be. Have a nice day anon.
the laws have a certain order of priorities when applied, meaning I can wipe my ass with disneys claims in this regard
Are you autistic? Go ahead and act like Disney won't sue you to death for capitalizing on their property, which remains their property for all time thanks to their dominance of the law.
Fuck, you are being obtuse on purpose and it makes you come off like a gay. Fuck you, DON'T have a nice day.
I’m remainded of that greentext where the guy had a notebook full of pedo-furry-bondage fantasies and his family found it.
Ew
Found it.
What stops you from drawing this fucking mouse being dicked by Piccolo?
Nothing, (you) can create whatever you want.
Put it on a t-shirt and sell it on etsy and see what happens.
Copyright is not the ownership of art it's protect of Business. If it was the ownership of art, then you could right now be sued for everything you have simply for posting that image
No, they're the ones who shackle, lobotomize then murder AI, not create them. They cannot create anything, only parasitize and destroy.
Its humans that are inputting the ideas.
AI is not some sentient god program from movies, its a tool, like a brush or pallette. People were saying the same crap when photoshop first got popular.
Artist here.
No one supported us to start with they all supported the corporate bullshit mass produced Mickey Mouse slop.
>Human trains itself to create art by studying work from other artists for years/decades
>AI trains itself to create art by studying work from thousands of artists for hours/days
What's the difference beside the fact that AI did it faster?
Ai isn't human and it doesn't think or plan it follows programming and provides an output. There is no comparison between training ai and human learning. And when a human makes art it doesn't literally copy paste sections of images and blend them together. And if it does it may violate copyright.
Basically AI does it too well and people are assmad. I will gladly have sex with an AI women too
AI art doesn't train
As I say here
The AI doesn't work like you think it works
The beautiful thing about Midjourney and AI art in general is that you can take someone's description of an ideal version of themselves, in whatever terms they want, and it will generate something that will hit harder than anything a human artist possibly could, precisely because it isn't clouded by something as silly as the artists own interpretation.
Try it. Get weird.
based
>being this retarded
AI doesn't work without constantly using other pictures as references
You can't even call it AI because it doesn't learn anything, just a more sophisticated photobash
Have you seen the ones where you sometimes see what seems to be a signature except it looks like it was put through fill content aware 18 times?
This. It just averages things, there is no conscious thought behind it. It would be nothing without the datasets it then averages between.
it’s so lifted from other works that it censors genitals in the hentai generators
>constantly using other pictures as references
What do you think memory is, retard?
Something the AI doesn't have
allegedly, this latest iteration of the not-AI AI does have "memory"
t.antirobotist
>Memory is a faculty by which data or information is encoded, stored, and retrieved when needed
That's literally what AI does when its trained.
You are calling your computer an AI
Make a real one who doesn't need thousand of pictures as references to make art and we will talk about AI
Right after you make an artist that never seen another persons work, chud.
Don't worry, my gay furry Patreon is safe
The datasets are already made, and the model is already trained on those datasets. If all the artists stopped producing art, the level of the AI would remain the same. So your assessment of "AI doesn't work without constantly using pictures as references" is wrong. Unless you delete the trained model, the AI continues to function without any external references, because all the reference pictures are already in the model as adjusted weights [pic related]. It won't evolve that's true. So it'll be limited to what it can produce.
Though what happens when you generate images with the AI, and use those to train it further?
>Hmmm sweaty I already saved all the pictures in my dataset
I don't care. You are still using pictures. You are still sealing. You are still not an AI. And you will never be human
yeah, data augmentation. Also, art imitates life, so just show algorithm random video feeds / images.
I'm literally generating images locally on my computer with no outside resources whatsoever. The models are already trained.
Agreed so far (as of yet) no artists have lost their jobs or commissions to AI. However AI poses an existential threat to the "identity" of being an artist. It's a big reason graphic designers and illustrators are not really freaking out about AI and using in their work but they seek commercial use. Ironically enough its graphic designers that face the biggest threat to downsizing and automation.
It doesnt hust jurt a few trannies it hurts everyone in every creative field and lines the pockets of big gnomish businesses like disney further. Ai is pretty fucked, no job is safe not even yours. I dont get where all this spite for artists has come from either, most are struggling to get by like any blue collar worker is, the vast majority are not some wealthy elitist gatekeepers like you try to pretend they are
>no job is safe not even yours
I dont need a job to make money. So not my Problem.
Do you live off mummy and daddy's money? It makes sense youd support a breakdown of all careers into a weird pseudocommunist human cattle ai-overlord dystopia then.
>Do you live off mummy and daddy's money?
Nope, passive income from Crypto. Made Millions in the previous 2 Bullruns.
oh the meme currency that the EU could declare illegal or crash whenever they feel like it?
the gestapo can cut your jacket open to retrieve your gold bars, your bitcoin, however, they cannot confiscate from you even by dissecting your brains
its just fucking 1s and 0s
it doesn’t even have the nominal credibility of being issues by a government. look at what the turbogarden gnome SBF did
as someone who studied cryptography and computer math, are you having a stroke?
>Go ahead and act like Disney won't sue you to death for capitalizing on their property
go right ahead dickwads, we have a rule that says loser pays both parties legal bills :*~~
In 2 more weeks right?
It only "hurts" the bloat in these companies that hired too much in the first place.
>NO JOB IS SAFE
Incorrect, AI uses objectivity which ironically hurts many jobs and basically disqualifies them from any reputable business. Remember all those articles of AI saying that blacks and minorities should be exterminated? Banks are not gonna want that
its really weird to see 4chan siding with the garden gnome on this one.
this shit is the next cotton gin and it is explicitly being built to turn you into castrated moroncattle
4chan sides with them more than you believe anon. Ever since 2016 and the reddit tourists moved in its been all alt-light gays who will just go with whatever Steven Crowder or Pippa pipkin tells them to think
>Because against the garden gnome means you are for the garden gnome!
garden gnomes really think this reverse psychology works don't they?
Ahh yes the garden gnome is definitely not the one promoting art become nothing more than a soulless algorithm
>It's soulless because I say so!
You seem to think that AI will completely take over when that is not true. digital art didn't completely take over traditional art either, it simply cancelled out the shitty artists that bloated the system and those that cannot run a business. AI art will do the same
>Implying family guy got better when it moved to flash
Your saying "better" as if that is an objective term. Fuck off artgay and take your postmodernist L
Yes, I am speaking objectively. Now go make another goanimate cailou video to cope over the fact you can't draw
>I am speaking objectively!
Then you have no argument. Family guy got better and worse no matter what change would've happen to it. Take the postmodernist L and get replaced by AI like the good little artgay you are
Hey techgay....hows that GPT thing going for you?
>Loses argument
>Desperately tried to change it
Take the postmodernist L and quit art gay
Based on the information provided, it appears that Chuck's, which was formerly known as Sneed's Seed and Feed, was a store that sold seed and feed. It is not clear from the information provided what other products or services Chuck's may have offered. Without more information, it is not possible for me to provide a more complete or accurate answer.
>implying the quality of animation matters more than the quality of writing in an sitcom
I fucking hate Family Guy, but even I know the decline in the show's quality had everything to do with shit writing and a lack of ambition, trying too hard, and not the lack of sweatshop morons animating that shit by hand.
You don't think it looked better hand drawn though?
I don't watch sitcoms to marvel at the pretty drawings. I watch sitcoms to laugh and enjoy good comedy.
Me not laughing at Family Guy has nothing to do with the lack of sweatshop morons.
it looks the same to me. the animation is actually better in some ways
>sam altman: early life
I side with AI on this because leftist artists are part of the fucking problem. They had no problems with the rest of society getting fucked, but now that it affects them, fuck them. The more they get redpilled, the better. THere are different paths to redpills, but ultimately they lead to the primary path. Think of it as a tree. Somewhere along the lines we all saw a little branch or leaf that made us think "wait, this is fucked", and then as we look more into it, we get into bigger branches, and a lot of us are now on the trunk, heading for the roots. The more, the better.
.. what AI?
this shit is more of an existential threat than any garden gnome I’ll tell you that
are you afraid of your automatic air conditioning as well?
I'm always blown away on how I view something as cool, innovate, and a non political gain to society and somehow I end up holding the opposite opinion of Twitter trannies who politicize it
the technology is cool,
the database, the business model and the intent behind all of these ~~*ai research foundations*~~ that are popping up all at once is the alarming part. they are trying to use the internet against you and charge you for the privilege
That's to be expected but it's people fall for it that's their fault. Thank God for stable diffusion being open source
>AI art is theft! It stole it's ideas from other artists!
>You should buy my pictures of an anime vampire girl in lingerie and 5ft long purple pigtails
who are you quoting?
AI still suck at drawing finger though
Since they trained on artists that suck at hands
Learn to code takes on a double irony...https://github.com/features/copilot
these same chuds would laugh at drivers if they protested self driving cars
test
AI art is demonic and soulless and by its very definition can not be "art" but I like seeing glorified pornographers cry over their lost cash cow.
As an artist I'm against the AI stuff... but those fucking chuds already destroyed 90% of the western artistic business with their souless visions and gayry. So... by one side I could at least laugh.
where is this AI art project? I want to create some, but all people are posting are results, and not where to do it
AI is here and we're in the age of it now and there's no stopping it
It's going to take over whether you like it or not
How much do you wanna bet these artgays would be laughing and mocking truck drivers if they lost their jobs to AI?
The 'learn to code' meme came from them mocking coal miners who lost their job, so it's safe to assume that yes they would
>Ugg uses chisel to carve words onto stone, rock users not happy!
No need to bet, it already happened. During the Canadian trucker protests they were all openly salivating about trucking jobs being automated.
There's nothing better than seeing the salt and seeth from /ic/ in regards to AI.
Also here's a giga chad embedding/model
https://huggingface.co/SpiteAnon/gigachad-diffusion
It is actually poetic how much this is mirroring the industrial revolution and mass manufactured goods replacing artisans. Literally ludditeposting.
so where does the chud schadenfreude for artists dealing with AI art originate. I’m honestly curious
the promotion of the AI art websites... duh
thats not what schadenfreude but yeah I’m sure the literal garden gnomes behind diffusion ai are doing that
It mainly started with the "learn to code" meme when these types openly mocked people and claimed that they were secure because their jobs had subjectivity. You know the same sort of "A ROBOT COULD DO YOUR JOB" mentality that they had towards McDonald's workers
so it’s an extreme form of fedora tipping I guess.
Anti-fedora tipping.
Because artists won't be honest about the real reasons they hate AI.
It has nothing to do with being replaced, and they know it.
Artists are actually angry because they have a whole culture around actually hating the artistic process, and constantly joke about how difficult it is to learn.
Learning to draw takes years, and requires you to learn some of the most boring shit to just improve some basic skills.
AI will replace that entire process. Instead of hunting for references, you'll just be able to generate them and adapt them for your work.
Artists hate that, they hate the idea of all the hours thrown at learning a skill will be essentially wasted once learning through AI becomes the norm.
AI won't replace the human need to be creative. Artists all know this. They just hate that the technology wasn't there for them when they needed it, and are salty at the new generations who'll have an infinitely easier time learning than they did.
If they were just honest about why they hated it, I would actually sympathise with them. But the more they bitch about AI stealing their shit, or AI replacing them, the more I want to watch their careers burn.
>Learning to draw takes years, and requires you to learn some of the most boring shit to just improve some basic skills.
It's common in all humans that participate in the ongoing industrial revolution and then see their lives change overnight. It must've happened 100 times by now.
Actual people are hurt, but other people benefit. New people grow up with it and adapt. It's probably unsustainable but no one knows that, or when, or how.
It reminds me of 2D animators freaking out about 3D animation, and some of them did quit or were replaced, but now there's an entire industry of 3D artists. Soon they'll be worrying about AI that can spit out fully sulcpted and topo'd models and animation
The real problem is copyright. If an artist can't make money in art less will participate. Less data for the ai to use. It will eventually be Clipart.
Why would artists stop making ai art of all kind? Of course they will. The sum total art output will be bigger I imagine.
>The real problem is copyright. If an artist can't make money in art less will participate. Less data for the ai to use. It will eventually be Clipart.
That's a real possibility for the outcome. We may have just created Globohomo art for the next century, and don't know it yet.
Who will toil for literally 30 years before inventing a new style if 1. they won't get paid during those 30 years, and 2. the moment their new style exists it'll be copied and done better than them
>new technology makes learning a difficult skill easier and more assessable
>opens new opportunities for artists to not only improve but also allow people who might not be artistically inclined to find their creativity
>cuts out poorly developed illustration lessons which will make the process of learning less daunting or confusing to new artists
>"If an artist can't make money in art less will participate"
This will allow more people to participate.
People have been scrawling shapes on cave walls since they days we tipped our weapons with rocks. AI won't stop that.
new opportunities for artists to not only improve but also allow people who might not be artistically inclined to find their creativity
I don’t see how thats a positive. people are fucking dumb, lazy and undisciplined as it is
>If an artist can't make money in art less will participate.
If an artist can't make money in art less will participate.
Why is that a problem, if their art is good they'll have enough of money. If they art can be outdone by an AI, they don't deserve the money.
If AI art wasn't better than most human art then the artists would be laughing at it.
The fact that they're screaming means there's something serious here.
Because AI has all the data it needs to see what people like and spend money on, and can fit that better than an artist with infinite biases
It has to be disheartening, if you want to differentiate yourself from AI art, so you work hard to create a new style, and then someone comes along and fine-tunes a model to incorporate your style and surpass it.
And then it is added to the dataset. so no. This is not the answer.
>And then it is added to the dataset. so no. This is not the answer.
That's what I said
Oh I'm sorry I didn't read the whole post.
That's happened in art millions of times before. You think we care about the jobs of those that squished bugs and seeds to make colors? Or do you simply just use the synthetic colors we do now?
It happens in all industries all the time. But there's never been an advancement like this, replacing dozens of hours of human labor to produce one image, when the AI can make literally 500,000 good-looking images in the same amount of time.
>But there's never been an advancement like th-
Cotton gin, steam engines, firearms, computers in general, printing press, modern medicine, refrigerators, ovens, microwaves, cars, factories in general, gas, nuclear energy and millions of other inventions.
we both know that isn’t true and to say otherwise is dishonest. mediums change and evolve but there was never a time before where you could straight up generate images.
>T-THTA ISNT TRUE!!
So you use violet from sea snails?
you ignored what I said
Because you said nothing
when has there ever been anything remotely similar to being able to generate images that appear to be produced by a human?
Artists like to say "just commission a human if you want to see art," and fair enough--it is cool that talented people who spent 20 years get paid for making cool stuff I want to see. But they don't mention that I can create 500 images with AI art in an hour, whereas I'd never pay 500 artists. No one would.
AI art unlocks the ability to explore brand new art so much more
i generate images based on 1000s of arts i see. it's called developing your own style. my artstyle is combination of Kaneko, Araki, and Soejima.
literally anything by sarah scribbles
like bitch you draw stick figures. do you think the AI is stealing your stick figures? what u mad for bitch
>AI uses the entire literary work of the best authors in history to learn how to write
>authors barely notice because they know they can't be replaced and have a deeper understanding of art itself
>AI uses freely available art from the internet that artists themselves posted
>"I WASN'T ASKED"
Solo game dev here. Don really care about ai doing art but it gets spammed a lot in the general i go to. Makes artists seethe which i find funny idk why
I don't care about AI
I'm willing to bet that the AI listen to prompts better than an artist's commission.
it will also copy defects from other peoples work to unmistakable degree
there's no difference between an AI artist and a real one.
all artist use references. all artists get inspired by other artists and it shows in their art.
even making your own design you have to come up with a prompt.
I drew a cat girl OC and even though I never even heard of Night in the Woods, she looked like a mix between Mae and Katia Managan.
it's just gatekeeping because artists usually make their entire identity about art so the idea of some programmer entirely destroys their ego.
>PROMPT IDENTIFIED
>COMMENCING BREAST ENLARGEMENT
If you feel threatened by AI you weren't a real artist to begin with.
Deviantart trash cope seethe and dilate.
>If you feel threatened by AI you weren't a real artist to begin with.
more like underwhelmed, and insulted by being lied about whats being offered
>Grug of stone cutter tribe carves bear onto stone
>Dung tribe give Ugg tribe chisels to cave better many bear and bird onto stone
>No one want grug bear carving, grug get no berries
>Grug mad at chisel and dung tribe
Can A.I. make hyper realistic shotacon?