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This image of Batman was completely generated by an AI called Dalle 2.

This image of Batman was completely generated by an AI called Dalle 2. This tech is limited access for now but do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry? Why pay that comic artist some money for a cover when the AI can make one very fast at a low cost? I'm so cynical that I can see corps like Disney adopting this without a second thought. And its only a matter of time until animation gets automated too

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe in the future. we're not there yet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      This is the subreddit for all the art generated by dalle 2. This shit is freakishly good and it's improving at a fast rate. I've messed with other AI art generators and it does not compare to this. I think it's a cool novelty but the idea that AI art could dominate the industry feels so fucking soulless
      https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2

      Completely-completely AI or did somebody touch up a decent-ish AI result with Photoshop?

      Completely AI. Pic rel was all dalle 2. Concept artists btfo

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      >This tech is limited access for now but do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry?

      We can only hope. Once this is available to the public /co/ can make their own stories with official looking art kek

      OpenAi is concerned about people using the tech to make illicit porn so you can't make it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Concerned about people making porn

        I mean, there's no way to avoid this in the long run

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are just afraid that it will be used against them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen it already and I was surprised as well, but still, we're not there yet.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          With animals, we're there. People are hard though since people look completely different sometimes even if they are directly related

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fairly certain Dall E is handicapping face generation intentionally. Devs have expressed concerns about 2 being used to generate lifelike depictions of people. Remains to be seenif they won't handicap it too for public consumption.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Concerned about people making porn

        I mean, there's no way to avoid this in the long run

        I’m sure just making any old porn isn’t the problem, they’re probably worried about people making porn of real individuals without consent. It would be especially bad if the person was underaged.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This image of Batman was completely generated by an AI called Dalle 2. This tech is limited access for now but do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry? Why pay that comic artist some money for a cover when the AI can make one very fast at a low cost? I'm so cynical that I can see corps like Disney adopting this without a second thought. And its only a matter of time until animation gets automated too

        They’re good as illustrations but I doubt they can keep this quality in comic or animation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that would require samples anyway, which they I'm sure they don't have.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cool Bionicle bull

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's a buffalo bigot

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't male buffalo bulls?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes. It's ackhtually a bison though, buffalo is technically incorrect. They don't have the same sexual dimorphism as many bovines do, so in effect you're assuming it's gender. That's the joke. Please clap.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        honestly i think it be a good concept art generator. shit you can type in for ideas you have and stuff and touch up on later

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, seems like it can work really well for planning characters/machines/environments or color keys. Concept artists already use photobashing techniques (photographs, CG renders and painted stuff used together as a combination) to make their work faster. This AI can help speed up the process even more. And even writers can use it without needing a concept artist to illustrate an idea they're thinking of.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, seems like it can work really well for planning characters/machines/environments or color keys. Concept artists already use photobashing techniques (photographs, CG renders and painted stuff used together as a combination) to make their work faster. This AI can help speed up the process even more. And even writers can use it without needing a concept artist to illustrate an idea they're thinking of.

          I've been using it as a dnd game for paintings.
          basically if the players loot a manor or get treasure I can show them the surreal images and it's just part of the art world in my setting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I give it 5-10 years. Dall-e mini can already churn out fapworthy pics in a few minutes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dall-e mini
        >fapworthy
        Only on /co/...

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >This tech is limited access for now but do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry?

    We can only hope. Once this is available to the public /co/ can make their own stories with official looking art kek

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By the time the tech is advanced enough well either be dead or too old

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're already too old to be watching cartoons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dall E 2 is incredibly impressive but is incapable of replacing human artists. At best its commercial applications would be limited to reference generation.

      >Available to the public
      The really impressive AI systems like Dall E 2 and LaMDA and others require large amounts of GPU time to function, it's not going to be available on anything less than a proper vfx workbench

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Dalle has plans to release in summer. And advances will make it more widespread

        >1/2

        Hello. I do not usually post here, but this thread got trending at BOT.

        I do 3D art and I would like to say somethings about AI right now.

        Indeed, AI has advanced far faster than we've thought and it is indeed reaching a point in which artists wouldn't be needed anymore.

        With just a little exception, of course:

        >https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-office-rules-ai-art-cant-be-copyrighted-180979808/

        If A.I art does indeed becomes used by companies, it will leave them in a very bad spot, financially: their work and whatever they do, will have to become some sort of "Free for All" copyright.

        It wouldn't even be considered Creative Commons, as those can't be used commercially and you have to give credit to the original creator.
        In the case of A.I, it wouldn't even get to that case.

        >Basically, you can't sell products or intellectual property made with A.I. At all.

        Therefore, there will not be financial incentive for anyone to use A.I at all. Unless artists use A.I as a "base" for creating work and then "editing" on top of that.
        That, though, is in a way still a form of "plagiarism", as an A.I made the original work on the first place. In theory, it wouldn't even be possible to use A.I at all in a work environment.

        Now, will that stop the usage and advancement of A.I? Probably not, but that doesn't means it can be used by companies, at all.

        >It simply makes them get into a very dangerous legal "limbo" of some sort. People could literally pirate or even sell their products unpunished.

        "Very well, Sigma. This makes sense currently, but what if they change the laws?"

        Now that is a very good question! If laws are changed and they allow A.I work to be copyrightable, then the rights go to the A.I in itself. A.I do not have rights, cannot sign contracts and do not have any protection under the law.

        Most likely, laws will not change and A.I will keep making material which isn't copyrightable.

        What does trending at BOT mean, anon? And idk, knowing the greed of corps, they'll find a way to have it both ways. But this is reassuring too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Sigma

          Trending at BOT means that this thread got posted in a subreddit that posts the trends on this site

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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            >this thread is on leddit
            Hello

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              Hi

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                Post the link from where you came from

                Can it do porn, specifically taboo stuff? If. it can it's over NSFW artist community.

                Nah, they'll ban you if you put in inappropriate prompts. But just imagine if pic related was allowed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >Post the link from where you came from
                BOT

        • 2 weeks ago
          Sigma

          It means this thread was at the starting page of BOT.

          >And idk, knowing the greed of corps, they'll find a way to have it both ways. But this is reassuring too.

          Well they can't have it both ways. In fact, giving "rights to software" - whatever that means - would mean they wouldn't be able to just "exploit code" for "slave labor".

          It just doesn't makes any sense, legally.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Completely-completely AI or did somebody touch up a decent-ish AI result with Photoshop?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DALL-E 2
      I'll go with fully AI, the first version already shitted out uncanny results when making photorealistic objects. The ai apparently can understand arstyles and even time periods.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Will a machine replace a person that will whine about workplace conditions, demand more money, call off sick, ect

    You should honestly know the answer to this one

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Those scratches near the eye
    What's up with DALL-E (and image generators in general) and eyes? The samples they gave for the previous version also had a tendency for eye issues, be it cross-eyed, melting eyes, etc.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eyes are more precise than general body shape and shit I guess, more room for error

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its the machines overemphasizing cute/watery eyes for the sake of sympathy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry?
      that implies there's an industry for artists

      DALL-E 2 cheats by generating one image and then repeatedly diffusing it to upscale it to HD, without dealing with the limitations of ESRGAN
      The issue with this is that, while this looks perfectly fine...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Then it gets upscaled, and you get shit like that fucking arm, the electric razor in the pencil holder

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          WITH THIS BEING SAID
          DALL-E 2 is actually only the 2nd best image generation option
          The best option for generating images is actually the Russian ruDALL-E (technically the best version of ruDALL-E is one being worked on by a Discord group rather than the biggest bank of Russia)
          And while it has its downsides compared to DALL-E mini, as the guy working on "better ruDALL-E" has told me
          >rudalle is decoder only transformer, that fuses image and text inside common layers; like was in original dalle-1 by openai
          >dalle-mini has another encoder-decoder architecture with separated text encoder bart;

          EVEN WITH THIS
          Because someone made a colab for finetuning ruDALL-E on one's own images and then someone else figured out how to get it to look at the ruDALL-E dataset + the custom images
          https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1gr0dSCcFH_hYjbAPuThwAxbA1T8DD1Od?usp=sharing
          ruDALL-E has become the state of the fucking art for AI, and everyone's a fucking FOOL to not give it the time of day

          AI can eventually be a good source of references to inspire people's own art.

          >eventually
          eventuishiggy diggy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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            >that's anime, not allowed on /co/
            technically it's anime + disney
            that's why I'm not posting Evangelion Trump

            https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1653/28/1653285722924.jpg

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It better recognize my waifu's name this time, russian spy.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it probably won't
              that's fine
              you can feed it an image of her and then have her do what you want her to

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't AI programs like this rely on existing art?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No different than how artists get inspired from other artists

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Actual retard. An artist inspired by a pose doesn't compare to using an existing drawing, then smearing some paint on it to make what is essentially a trace. You will never get something more unique. You will always need an artist to tune up the image because things are unreadable and at times the anatomy is nonsensical.
        You will only get a few angles and the faces look horrifying.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          >using an existing drawing, then smearing some paint on it to make what is essentially a trace
          Yeah, because there was dozens of pics of bears being mad scientists on the web...

          Can it do porn, specifically taboo stuff? If. it can it's over NSFW artist community.

          Nope, one of the first shits they say in their content policy, I thought copyrighted stuff was also off the table

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sub-ape IQ post

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yea. They're also a bitch to work with at the moment, especially if you want specific angles and stuff. I could see them working as an auxiliary tool but not as a main tool at the moment. There was a woman who made a children's book for her son and she used other tech as well and was talking about how hard it was at times, and we're talking about a one image every two pages kind of book, not a comic book.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      It tends to make 3d renders look better than 2d but that still puts 3d artists under the possibility of getting replaced

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        The bizarre thing is both DALL-E 2 and dall-e mini understand 2D characters better when it has to draw them in a different art style

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Damn, Neutron hit the wall hard.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          And these ones are from...?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the non-public DALL-E 2.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DC/Marvel already did it with that whole "let's just trace over 3D models, lol" way back in 2009

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI animation would be the best thing to happen to the industry since as it is right now, it's extremely expensive. If you have an AI doing all of the leg work, sky is the limit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      I can see that happening for cgi, not so much 2d.

      [...]
      I’m sure just making any old porn isn’t the problem, they’re probably worried about people making porn of real individuals without consent. It would be especially bad if the person was underaged.

      The devs of dalle 2 made sure that you can't generate a realistic image of people, but you can make it look stylized. But eventually, someone will make a widely available tool with 0 restriction. There's a lot of ethical debate and legally, I can see the government lagging behind trying to regulate it

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To replace artists with an ai it needs to be able to produce images that consistently look like the things they are meant to look like while maintaining a consistent style, and are capable of accepting basic instructions about framing, perspective, composition etc. It also has to be able to do this with a fairly high rate of success. If you need to spend hours re-running the program and tweaking the wording to produce a single acceptable panel then it's not going to be a very helpful tool. Dalle currently can't do any of these things.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/vcs4j9/one_of_these_things_is_not_like_the_others/

    This is too much power for one program

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      The possible saving grace is that corps can't legally use the images. Dalle is not for commercial use. And it begs the question of who would they credit? And the AI is being fed images of art made by real people. Could the makers of the art take action? I don't fucking know tbh, this shit has been overwhelming my brain

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Smashing images from Google together and blurring them
    Yawn.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >The Terminator is a piece of fiction, humans are never gonna get repla-

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You only need to be worried about being replaced at your job because you live in a nation that views your job as your value.

      Imagine a world where the planet's resources are applied so that simply by virtue of existing you have a roof over your head, plentiful food, and medical care.

      You're free to lie around and do nothing productive if you wish, but you're also free to contribute. Are you an artist? A musician? A baker? You have the time and energy to find out, and if it turns out you suck at what you try, you don't need to worry that you'll starve or lose your home.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You're free to lie around and do nothing productive if you wish
        Humanity would literally fucking go insane. Literally look at our modern society and it's hedonism - look at the 4th generation kids of rich fuckers.

        Do you think our society can work without work? People would be literally devolving into dark-eldar tier garbage within a single generation. It would literally make megacity one come to real life, except this time, without the judges.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Some people, maybe. I think most people would find something productive to do with their time. People want to work on things, and a better world would let people work on passions without having to fear starvation.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Some people, maybe
            >Some
            You'fe being way to hopeful here, dude. Most people would become far lazier as a result of this.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A lot of those would eventually get bored, but even if they didn't, what would it matter? The achievers would be free to achieve, and the rest would be free to relax.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And eventually, the relaxers would realize their lives are effectively worthless without sort of drive. And even the achievers would start to realize they are dime a dozen, and if one quit, nothing would really be lost as another would take their place. They'd learn they're an easily replaceable medium. This world of yours is unrealistic to how humans would actually act if it became a reality. It feels like it was made some naive kid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And eventually, the relaxers would realize their lives are effectively worthless without sort of drive.
                Thus they either work on a passion or kill themselves.

                >And even the achievers would start to realize they are dime a dozen, and if one quit, nothing would really be lost as another would take their place. They'd learn they're an easily replaceable medium.
                You base this claim on nothing at all.

                >This world of yours is unrealistic to how humans would actually act if it became a reality. It feels like it was made some naive kid.
                Your pessimism and misanthropy doesn't make optimists naive, anon. It's a shame you're so bitter.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Thus they either work on a passion or kill themselves.
                And how does this disprove my original stance? You just admitted it was right. These people would realize their lives are effectively worthless without any real incentive or motive.
                >You base this claim on nothing at all.
                People tend to put in more effort into things to get into higher places or have higher pay in their jobs. However, if there were enormous amount of more people working, enough to make our own look laughably miniscule, Most people would need to work their ass off 24/7 (which would cut into their personal lives depending on how far they take it), against many others who want the same thing if they ever wanted any acknowledgement by their superiors. And when they do make it, there are still a shit tons of others just as hardworking or talented as them in their new promotions they would need to compete with. A good half of them might not be able to keep up with the other half, and a good amount of others (anywhere in the job, really) might end up putting much less effort into their own work knowing they might never catch up, and that there are a good amount of people who will always manage to surpass them. This would become a problem with the mass influx of achievers.
                >Your pessimism and misanthropy doesn't make optimists naive, anon. It's a shame you're so bitter.
                You seem to have no grasp of what these concepts truly mean if you're using this to describe my criticisms of your ideas. Thinking things out logically and determining how they work out in the long run, doesn't equal either of things. If anything, optimists who act like you seem to cross into the "willingly stupid and ignorant" area to try and justify their own hopes, ignoring how flawed some of them might be when in practice. Sorry if having basic common sense equals "being bitter" to you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People tend to [insert shlomo-shekelstein's work slavery brainwashing]
                i accept your concession.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Literally has no comeback but "lalalalalala I can't here you I'm right and you're wrong!"
                How laughable. Then again, Marx did breed a lot of idiotic clowns with heads up their asses, so this is to be expected really.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >These people would realize their lives are effectively worthless without any real incentive or motive.
                a symptom of atheism

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >living your life for a man in the sky

                yikes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >look at the 4th generation kids of rich fuckers.
          Their wealth does more than free them from the necessity of work, though: it gives them absurd amounts of power over others. That's the part that corrupts them.

          >Do you think our society can work without work?
          I think the species can, but you could incentivize work by offering luxuries.
          >inb4 "how is that different from now?"
          The difference is removing suffering and death as penalties for non-participation or failure. Some people would absolutely sit around jackin' it 24/7, but most would chase their dreams.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The reason children of rich fuckers go insane is because they have immense power over the livelihoods of other people. It quite literally deadens their empathy.

          A theoretical world where our resources were managed non-retardedly by those in charge would still be hedonistic yes, but in the same way the Culture is hedonistic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're imagining a world that will never exist so long as limited resources exist. Even robots can't fix everything.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We have far more resources than we let ourselves think. The US has been destroying food for decades to keep grocery prices from tanking, and has more empty houses than homeless people.

          The world I'm talking of would have an upper population cap, absolutely, but we haven't hit it yet.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >US destroys food

            No we don't we literally have a law (Penned by FDR the gay) That makes it illegal for farmer to grow extra produce for themselves. More empty houses than homeless people is a misonmer, Housing supply depends entirely on where you live and states with a big housing crunch tend to have more homeless people, said homesless are retards that want to continue living in a state where housing is in short supply.. We don't live in a world of unlimited resources and I definitely don't like the idea of someone being allowed to subsist just for existing. Even Marx said those who don't work, don't eat

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >homeless
              Not him, but a lot of them also don't take up homeless housing or shelter programs because they'd have to get clean. Others are too far gone mentally from decades of alcohol and drug abuse. It doesn't help that some states give up and encourage their addiction which keeps the numbers higher than they need to be. But generally the United States has plenty of programs. If someone gets into one and stays clean they can be on a road to recovery.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're talking about a post-scarcity society, which isn't going to happen just by automating everything.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you an artist? A musician? A baker?
        All automated. The point of your existence is to consume what the AI make for you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Dalle has plans to release in summer. And advances will make it more widespread
      [...]
      What does trending at BOT mean, anon? And idk, knowing the greed of corps, they'll find a way to have it both ways. But this is reassuring too.

      >Dur dur this time we will replace x y z #
      Remind me again how mtf and ftm trannies were supposed to replace real women and men or how they tried to make enby a thing that said "future isn't male or female?
      The world isn't gonna change because an AI is able to make photoshops, Wumbo Dream got shilled as much as this and changed absolutely fucking nothing.
      You can't change nature, and the nature of man is to draw with his hands

      • 2 weeks ago
        Sigma

        Even if it was possible financially or technically, it would not be allowed, legally.

        Plain and simple, artists will keep existing.

        AI cannot make copyrightable "art", it's just that simple.

        And nobody but coders would want to change that reality.

        Unless they manage to force their will on literally everybody else, this will never change.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Sigma

    >1/2

    Hello. I do not usually post here, but this thread got trending at BOT.

    I do 3D art and I would like to say somethings about AI right now.

    Indeed, AI has advanced far faster than we've thought and it is indeed reaching a point in which artists wouldn't be needed anymore.

    With just a little exception, of course:

    >https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-office-rules-ai-art-cant-be-copyrighted-180979808/

    If A.I art does indeed becomes used by companies, it will leave them in a very bad spot, financially: their work and whatever they do, will have to become some sort of "Free for All" copyright.

    It wouldn't even be considered Creative Commons, as those can't be used commercially and you have to give credit to the original creator.
    In the case of A.I, it wouldn't even get to that case.

    >Basically, you can't sell products or intellectual property made with A.I. At all.

    Therefore, there will not be financial incentive for anyone to use A.I at all. Unless artists use A.I as a "base" for creating work and then "editing" on top of that.
    That, though, is in a way still a form of "plagiarism", as an A.I made the original work on the first place. In theory, it wouldn't even be possible to use A.I at all in a work environment.

    Now, will that stop the usage and advancement of A.I? Probably not, but that doesn't means it can be used by companies, at all.

    >It simply makes them get into a very dangerous legal "limbo" of some sort. People could literally pirate or even sell their products unpunished.

    "Very well, Sigma. This makes sense currently, but what if they change the laws?"

    Now that is a very good question! If laws are changed and they allow A.I work to be copyrightable, then the rights go to the A.I in itself. A.I do not have rights, cannot sign contracts and do not have any protection under the law.

    Most likely, laws will not change and A.I will keep making material which isn't copyrightable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Sigma

      >2/2

      In the end, what is more likely to happen, then?

      Corporations, companies and citizens are the ones whom currently decide what goes into law and what doesn't, by lobbying, political pressure or sheer voting.

      In reality, A.I having "rights" wouldn't benefit any of those group types.

      Therefore:

      TL;DR - It is a very good tool to have. But it won't allow you to have any rights on such works.
      Probably will stay at meme sphere forever, such as Dall-E Mini we have today, for example.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Sigma

      >2/2

      In the end, what is more likely to happen, then?

      Corporations, companies and citizens are the ones whom currently decide what goes into law and what doesn't, by lobbying, political pressure or sheer voting.

      In reality, A.I having "rights" wouldn't benefit any of those group types.

      Therefore:

      TL;DR - It is a very good tool to have. But it won't allow you to have any rights on such works.
      Probably will stay at meme sphere forever, such as Dall-E Mini we have today, for example.

      Btw I make gay porn 3D art so if you want to see something respond and upvote this post and I’ll make it for free

      • 2 weeks ago
        Sigma

        I will pass, no thanks. Good luck with your endeavors, though.

        Shut the fuck up namegay.

        Also
        >Most likely, laws will not change and A.I will keep making material which isn't copyrightable.
        It's not AI. Giving software property rights though is the first step toward them becoming people in the legal sense and that's not really in anyone's interest.

        It is A.I though, which means some thing came up with the overall idea for the "artwork".

        But yes, nobody would like to give rights to, say, photoshop or Clipart or Krita or something like that.
        It also makes no sense whatsoever.

        That's why A.I making art would likely be just what it is: a literal meme factory.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, it's not. It is artificial, but it is not intelligent.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Sigma

            Yeah, but those are just semantics.

            I just use A.I because that's what people say, I guess.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's not semantics it's just factually incorrect. You can use whatever term you like, I'll just correct you when I see that you're wrong.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Sigma

                Ok, then what term should I use, instead?

                t. I don't know anything about AI in technical terms, just speculating about it's effects on society.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This specifically is a neural network.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it could be good to generate ideas.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Sigma

            Yeah that's probably where AI will be used to, honestly.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut the fuck up namegay.

      Also
      >Most likely, laws will not change and A.I will keep making material which isn't copyrightable.
      It's not AI. Giving software property rights though is the first step toward them becoming people in the legal sense and that's not really in anyone's interest.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It wouldn't even be considered Creative Commons, as those can't be used commercially and you have to give credit to the original creator.
      Creative Commons can be used commercially, except for the Creative Commons non-commercial license.

      >2/2

      In the end, what is more likely to happen, then?

      Corporations, companies and citizens are the ones whom currently decide what goes into law and what doesn't, by lobbying, political pressure or sheer voting.

      In reality, A.I having "rights" wouldn't benefit any of those group types.

      Therefore:

      TL;DR - It is a very good tool to have. But it won't allow you to have any rights on such works.
      Probably will stay at meme sphere forever, such as Dall-E Mini we have today, for example.

      I don't think it would be hard to have some legal loop hole, such as inserting a man made render on each frame of a ai generated animation, perhaps even just a few pixel wide watermark and then they copyright that where technically the rest of the image isn't copyrighted, but no one could legally share the film without removing those elements, which wouldn't be publicly known perhaps. Actually they wouldn't need to even do that, as the voice acting and music is copyrighted, so while someone might be able to legally share a AI movie but not the sound, and removing the sound could be made illegal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sigma balls bro heheh gottem

      • 2 weeks ago
        Sigma

        lmao ayyyy

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >And its only a matter of time until animation gets automated too
    I'd imagine it'll look like this

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure how it would as animation requires many frames in with characters in very specific poses in order to make sense. Hell, even for comic books, unless you want things to be boring needs to have more than just a close up on a character's face. I'm also not sure how this AI accounts for different art styles, as those can be a major draw for a lot of people. Over all, I think AI will become a tool that artists use, but not something that replaces artists per se.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. I can see artists feeding vague ideas/art into it and getting some interesting results back that they'd never consider on their own. ultimately art needs a human touch though.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see no problem, especially since animators are worked to death and most people pirate it anyway. let's make machines do all our work so we can lounge around, like our distant ancestors did.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    We'll see threads about people mixing shows or making their crack ships.
    At least the creators are excluding the porn possibility or all those twitter artists would starve.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good point. I've seen very mediocre porn artists that somehow make a decent living.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God I hope so, artists want a fucking ridiculous amount of money for a commission.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How dare they get paid for their time.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can it do porn, specifically taboo stuff? If. it can it's over NSFW artist community.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Yes, but devs are hacks so they have an auto censored and anti-explicit function. Once it's public, infinite porn is possible.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can see why they decided to ban it. AI generated porn of drawn characters isn't that big a deal, but if it can generate photorealistic art then that opens up the possibility of making deep fake porn of real people without their permission, which is a gigantic can of worms that no one wants to open. That said, its basically inevitable if the technology continues to spread. Someone will eventually do it.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI can eventually be a good source of references to inspire people's own art.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry?

    Dalle can't draw porn though.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Depends on the scale, Dalle still needs a lot of trial and error to make something decent and even then it could take many tries to get the image you want just like you requested it.

    That being said I could see a transitional period where an AI is used as a sort of tool so artist can sketch something and the computer does the inking and coloring. It would definitely remove some jobs from the industry but I doubt it would completely replace artist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AI is used as a sort of tool so artist can sketch something and the computer does the inking and coloring.

      There's already an auto-painter AI tool called Style2Paints that assists lineart the artist has drawn, giving it unique digital art quality coloring without the artist having to know anything about digital painting, while preserving the soul of the drawing without bastardizing it.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I told you bros going to school for art is a waste of time and money. Should have gone for engineering or learned a trade.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can draw what I imagine. That's something much more valuable to me than engineering or learning a trade.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can too, but starving artists is the reality for most artists.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can it draw porn and how good is it with weird fetishes?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Not while the testing goes on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >violent
        To what degree are we talking here? If I typed say Omni-man fights Superman would I get banned?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      rudall-e/looking glass can according to /tfg/

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will be very hard to teach an AI all the subtleties you may want to convey in a single panel of a comic - the specific expression a character makes, maybe a hand single they slyly make, or even just the reflection of something in their eye.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just depends on the language model. Dall E isn't super sophisticated in that respect.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can’t make porn
    Guess I still need to learn how to draw then fuck

  28. 2 weeks ago
    guy

    I already knew that today's animation workers in Los Angeles are very weak and will be easily outclassed by AIs even if they need to be heavily managed to get a natural result at first. Artists, people who are creative and can ride the wave will continue forth into this future oh, people who already make art like low quality robots will be forgotten in the past

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    So. Should I bother becoming an artist or is it over.
    >tfw mogged by a computer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it’ll take a few more years till it can replace 2D art

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But I'm young. If I was near retirement age, I wouldn't give a shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say still try for now. It's going to take at least another couple decades before this reaches the point where it threatens the livelihoods of 2D artists.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >/co/ hates artists so fucking much they're unironically looking forward to blobby AI-generated nonsense instead of human drawings
    You love to see it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anons here don't actually like comics or cartoons. They're here to bitch about "California"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And that's a good thing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"California"
        Ah, the bitch from Digimon Adventure... yeah, fuck her

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But why hate artists? Why love only the media and act like those who make it are your enemy?
        Isn’t that the final form of a pure consumer mentality?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But why hate artists?
          Politics
          >Why love only the media
          Like I said, nobody here actually likes comics or cartoons anymore.
          > act like those who make it are your enemy?
          Politics again. You think that /co/ stands for comics? Nah bro, it's Cultural Outrage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      I don't blame them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Didn't this guy work on that shitty Billy Dilley show

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes
      Cope more, Calarts shill

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Here's a prompt I came up with.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      My nugga, great minds think alike no?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's legitimately unbelievable

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >but do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry?

    At that point there's no industry period. Why pay a studio to use an AI when customers can just use the AI themselves?

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's literally a beta wait-list that anyone can sign up for lol.
    https://openai.com/dall-e-2/

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Check mail
      >Two months since applied
      They know I'll make lewds...

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what's the link to use this?

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people want artists to be replaced?
    I get for efficiency, but it lacks soul at best and at worse, it doesn't matter since art was always made for passionate people just wanting to have fun creating stuff.

    People used to build but now machines do that. That doesn't stop builders from building, since they just like to do that as a hobby anyways. So I don't get this fearmongering for artists.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do people want artists to be replaced?
      Politics.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally jealousy. This is a board full of people who think that they could make the best cartoon or comic ever if only they could draw, but they don't want to put in the time to learn.
      So instead they just hate artists.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but it lacks soul
      Soul doesn't get the bills paid.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Efficiency doesn't produce a culture worth having.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But if people are replaced by machines they don't get paid either. Where does it stop? Almost any job can be assumed by a machine now or in the future, but if we put machines everywhere eventually everyone will be out of jobs.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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            Anonymous

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            This would be the idea situation, less work and you still get paid, but that is not reality works, the old Black and White movie metropolis got it right, there they had this giant machine that did most of the work but even then the one person that had to operate the machine was overworked to death.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How the fuck have we advanced so little that Metropolis is still relevant?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because technology doesn't fundamentally change human nature or make people smarter. We have more knowledge, and better knowledge available to us compared to the ancients, but our actual ability to make good decisions isn't really any better than the ancient Greeks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                We seem to move in circles.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Machines don't complain, machines don't spend all their time on social media.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you know people working in the industry they are aware of this and are intentionally hoarding wealth now because even they aren't optimistic about what happens after

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tech bros hate artists

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >Why do people want artists to be replaced?

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It knows and understands what is "Handsome Squidward"
      FUTURE

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf why isn't he a black transwoman this algorithm raycis yo

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >130 posts in
    >OP doesn't post a link or source to picrel
    >Everyone eats it up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >2022
      >Anon doesn't know how to right click and search image

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        >Artist digitally touches up on Dalle's blobby drawings
        Why is this thread still up?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol.

          Fucking anime drawers are literal shitheads.

          AI will never do what a human does because it needs a reference. It cannot capture nuance or make a completely original image or capture life.

          Anyone who thinks AI is better than humans and deserves to be destroyed by AI and low IQ on par with a dumb machine/computer.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Sigma

          To be honest, this anon here pointed to what will happen most likely.

          Legally speaking, an AI takeover of art fields just won't happen at all.

          I do believe meme culture will do change, though.

          Until normies realize 4chan will - as always - co-opt AI for their usage.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even if it was possible financially or technically, it would not be allowed, legally.

            Plain and simple, artists will keep existing.

            AI cannot make copyrightable "art", it's just that simple.

            And nobody but coders would want to change that reality.

            Unless they manage to force their will on literally everybody else, this will never change.

            Legally, as things stand now, there's not a lot anyone can do to prevent future AI or even far less complex algorithms etc. from eventually achieving legal personhood. All that has to happen is someone names one as a business partner in an LLC and it will have acquired the most basic of property rights and some similitude of personhood that would entitle it further rights and enable it to confer that same status onto all sorts other "AI"s etc. It doesn't have to be very intelligent or necessarily conscious or aware at all for that to happen.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fucking retard, I could name my canary, or toaster a business partner, and I'd be committing fraud, not granting it human rights, dumbass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Namecalling is not, has never been and will never be an argument. There's no dignity in losing the argument like that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Namecalling is not, has never been and will never be an argument.
                I proved you wrong in addition, fucking gay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Putting false information into a LLC form is fraud gay, you are too retarded I guess to understand that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                None of what you said is relevant. 0/3.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not right just because you got insulted, either. Assholes can be right too, anon.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Sigma

              This anon here

              Fucking retard, I could name my canary, or toaster a business partner, and I'd be committing fraud, not granting it human rights, dumbass.

              is correct.

              Companies, corporations and organizations have such rights because they're composed of people who work for them.

              Not to mention the U.S government could very easily squish their little profits and stocks with regulation, if they tried doing that.

              So in reality that would not work, I am afraid.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can't name an inanimate object as a business partner. Business owners must be recognizable as persons under the law, because that's what a business contract is, a legal agreement between two persons. If I make a contract with a dog it doesn't matter whether or not the dog signs it, it's not a legally binding contract. Because dogs are, by definition, not able to make legally binding contracts.

              Personhood works by whitelisting, not blacklisting. You define what IS a person, and then exclude everything that doesn't match that definition. The Air Bud play doesn't work here.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the pic in op isn't one of the touch ups though. look at the "touched up" versions in that pic, and compare it to the OP. the OP picture also still has the dalle2 watermark in the bottom right, while that twitter guy removed it in his updated versions.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the OP picture also still has the dalle2
            Because he touched the Dalle pic and kept mostly things like the mark

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          LOL the colors are better in the AI version.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've always wondered what's the point of having to study manual digital painting, when graphic possessors can figure out the shader space perspective of light and color for free, and including these discoveries of AI generated textures on the fly.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Bottom right
        Bananaman?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's not to believe? put in enough reference images and parameters and you can wind up with just about anything. that also looks pretty bad.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    werebear transformations

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hot

  41. 2 weeks ago
    TheBat469

    Hello BOTners, I come from Reddit after seeing an image of this thread posted on a subreddit I usually occupy. In response to your question, I do think AI will wipe out artists (no offense to artists). But AI is getting suprisingly good at replicating art so it only makes sense to me that the next big leap would be having an AI that's able to do prompts with zero issues and generate art that would look like a human made it. I would not be surprised if the future consisted of total automation from AI and machines.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't you stay in Reddit and post your drivel there

    • 2 weeks ago
      Sigma

      I actually hate Reddit.

      Honestly speaking, I find easier to use BOT than Reddit.

      Also, nobody has the right to tell anyone what they can say online and Reddit has plenty of those types around that cesspool.

      I prefer autists calling me the n-word all day long, thank you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there's probably more censorship and ostracizing here though. ironically.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Sigma

          No, there isn't.

          BOT isn't perfect - far from it - but it does the job.

          Reddit doesn't do anything. Heck, it's least valuable social media website out there.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI has a moe bias, I see.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >zoomers will kill themselves when seeing their career hopes disappear

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >50 bucks a commission
      Based AI freeing me from the tyranny of drawgays

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Hand them a Mcdonalds job application.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We still need artist to keep making updated models with new conteDTDnt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a livestream of my suicide will be the only form of art AIs can't duplicate
      Challenge accepted, a suicide bot will now put a much better show than yours!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Drawing furry porn gives
      NSFW artists will be the last profitable art career

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      Not while the testing goes on

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All these """artists""" bitching have no creativity and can't see that AI is a groundbreaking tool. Imagine the kind of shit the greats could make with this if they understood how to guide the AI. Of course AI will make fanart better than you, it wasn't like YOU were making something original in the first place.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Imagine the kind of shit the greats could make with this
        The greats aren't making it, AI is
        >Of course AI will make fanart better than you, it wasn't like YOU were making something original in the first place.
        topic is concept art, not just fan art

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh my god an AI is gonna generate porn for me. I'm gonna be rich like those YCH furgays

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate YCHs so much

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think that "full" automation is unlikely for a long time, as AI won't be able to cobble coherent or interesting stories together. Automation with a human component making thumbnail sketches/storyboards is much more likely for comics and animation. For example, someone draws rough sketches showing the composition and action in each panel, or keyframes for animation, and then the AI will read and interpret the sketches along with its other inputs to create much more detailed artwork/animation than a person could do in the same amount of time. An "animator" in the U.S. under this probably won't look too much different than the ones now, as their main purpose will be laying out a story. However, outsourced Koreans will be largely replaced.

    While it's easy to see big corps going for this sort of thing, automation could also be a boon to smaller scale production companies or even amateurs who might be "idea people" but lacking in talent. All this depends on how affordable access to said AI programs and the necessary hardware is, of course. Chances are you'd be looking at a hefty subscription for access to the good ones.

    So I don't think it's so cut and dry. For the time being humans will still prefer stories written by other humans, even if they get help on the art. Meanwhile, artists for trading card and tabletop games probably get chucked in the dumpster.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >even amateurs who might be "idea people" but lacking in talent
      /co/, your call! You might finish a fucking project for once!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All depends on whether the software can be pirated.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >artists keep panicking over AI art

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >artists
      The mentally ill.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >everthing that I've trying to do as an artist will be futile.
      Only if you allow yourself to be beaten by Artificial Intelligence that kitbashes pictures together from a database, fucking dullard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >zoomers will kill themselves when seeing their career hopes disappear

      Oh noooo! You might be unable to get a job in an entire art field because of some sort of circumstances? Wow bro, that's sad. Anyway, can't wait to apply to Disney with my 2D animation reel.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't Calarts grads apply to disney with a 2d reel?

        >porn
        the coastal elites and the brainwashed prole luddites will make sure that doesn't happen. they are afraid of the limitless potential of the imaginal and will gatekeep the commonfolk from this great tech. it will be a fruitless effort though because there will be third parties that'll create non-censored open-source versions. when this happens the moralistic-fascists will reveal themselves faster than ever when they try to ban it.

        Honestly, I feel like there will be a day when the powers that be find a way to permanently remove things online. I couldn't imagine the internet becoming what it is today all those years ago and it's going to get worse

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just another turn on the death spiral that is (garden gnome-controlled) Human society. Nothing to see here.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I imagine they could develop this further as a fine tooled program for comic book artists, filmmakers, and story board artists, where AI generated characters and locations can be saved and used multiple times, and viewing angles can be specified.

    I've looked for examples of people specifying angles in these Dall E images and havent found many.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most people are unaware of how much current comics are *already* automated. The devs for DALLE should have asked what sorts of additional tools artists actually wanted and how to incorporate them into existing toolsets.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >calling it souless
    but we dont even support people with their own artstyles in the current decade and whatever artist gets super popular people will just try to copy that on top of whatever mega corp suits want everyone to normalize (calarts is real but its not the artist's fault and yet people blame the artist). for the most part ai determining randomly created artstyles would be okay if it mean suits would actually push more artstyles outside of the 3-4 and the rare few that are allowed to project their unique art styles flop or not.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll watch it if its animated by Yoh Yoshinari

  51. 2 weeks ago
    El Barto

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    i doubt it, honestly:

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT, people who don’t understand AI

    Artists becoming ‘obsolete’ from this is not important whatsoever. The main takeaway from this is that AI is becoming really good really fast. The Dalle Mini images everyone is posting on the internet are literal trash compared to Dalle 2, and they’re only separated by one year of work. AI will continually get better at faster speeds, and this year, particularly the last 6 months, have seen many break throughs in AI and Machine Learning being made.

    The problem with this is that it’s too fast, and at the rate that progress is being made, in a few dozen years AI will be better at doing the things it is generally designed for than the entirety of humanity put together. Once it gets to this threshold, it will be smart enough to upgrade itself exponentially. If it is not aligned towards human goals, we will literally have no way of stopping it (since it’s more intelligent and capable than the entirety of our species put together), and therefore we all die.

    Read this: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uMQ3cqWDPHhjtiesc/agi-ruin-a-list-of-lethalities

    A list of a few dozen reasons why AI, when sufficiently intelligent, will kill you. The only way to solve this is to make the AI aligned in a certain way where we can use it in order to stop other people from making un-aligned AIs through some ‘pivotal act’. This isn’t going to happen at our current rate, and the probability of us making an aligned AI, using that aligned AI to produce a pivotal act, and that pivotal act stopping others from making non-aligned AI, is around 0%.

    TL;DR it’s over. Art doesn’t matter when everyone else is dead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      El Barto

      don't worry, if i know from tay a.i, it's that this tragedy can be postponed long enough for the rest of us to live life naturally

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    where do I sign up for DALLE 2?

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Work isn't going away for a while because robots have to be repaired constantly, programs have all sorts of glitches, are expensive, and (generally) less adaptive and intelligent than a an unskilled worker.

    t. worked with robots

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    you know with al this AI generated stuff out now, suppose they create AI generated video?

    Supppose somewhere down the line there is AI generated VR?

    Are we in a false world made by an AI to similate life?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I used to think that there are some tasks where computers can't surpass humans. Back in the early 2000s online text translations were unreliable, text-to-speech was awful, and speech-to-text sounded like a scifi movie concept. I'm amazed at how rapidly all that tech has progressed during the last 20-ish years. For example Youtube captions used to be laughable only a decade ago, but these days they're sometimes better at deciphering rapid/accented speech than I am.
      These kinds of AIs that generate images are getting really good too. I don't know whether to find it cool or scary. It's neat to see what sorts of results these AIs are getting, but at the same time it reminds me of this old Youtube video "Humans need not apply". The video argued that humans are making themselves obsolete and purposeless by creating robots and AIs that are superior to us.
      Also, sometimes I can't help thinking about all the scifi movies where sufficiently intelligent computers turn out to have different priorities than humans, and things end badly.

      That's pretty much what the simulation theory proposes. And the core idea is fairly indistinguishable from what various religions and philosophers suggested centuries ago. They just didn't use modern lingo because it didn't exist yet. So instead of a programmer typing code in order to create an artificial intelligence, it was seen as god creating the mankind in his image. And instead of comparing our perception of the world to a digital Matrix-like simulation, it was compared to Plato's allegory about a bunch of shadows on the wall.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long until human brains can be made into artificial artificial intelligences by hooking them up to computers full time?

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the bat miraculous gives him the power of prep time
    This is just a Zag design

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no white eyes
    Shit design

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      dalle-2 is fucking terrifying
      https://giannisdaras.github.io/publications/Discovering_the_Secret_Language_of_Dalle.pdf

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >tfw swf art will die while nsfw will continue to thrive because the boomer investors didn't want the ai to produce porn.

    Feels good to be a degenerate

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Abolition Of Man, First Comic Book Entirely Drawn By A.I. Algorithm
    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/abolition-of-man-first-comic-book-entirely-drawn-by-a-i-algorithm/

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He looks like he wouldn't be out of place in My Hero Academia...

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The AI just restricted but you could theoretically make porn with photos of yourself banging your waifu
    Sorry, I'm still in the self-insert phase.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is part of the reason why the porn is banned and why deepfakes have been getting regulated. The average person doesn't want some random to have an ai make realistic porn of them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We just need to get the fact that finding porn of random people are simply fake unless absolutely proven otherwise.
        >But what if they actually do porn?
        Good, now they have plausible deniability since we love shaming them so much.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    AI-Generated 20th Century Fox logos

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  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >tfw you lived long enough for The Art of Kenny Who? to come true

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I love the future

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "If you’re worried about being replaced by a (robot), you’re not bringing that much to the table in the first place" -Whitney Cummings

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's more that when anyone brings anything new and talented to the table now, the masters of the house just push it off the table.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What kinds of jobs do you imagine are entirely safe from automation or artificial intelligence, though? If our current tech can actually emulate art and creativity, what tasks are there still left where machines can never replace humans? Maybe programming or machine maintenance, unless if someone creates self-learning robots that focus on those tasks? I think there's a real possibility that all of us are going to become kinda useless as our technology advances.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What kinds of jobs do you imagine are entirely safe from automation or artificial intelligence, though?
        The ones where the person who makes the decision needs to hold legal responsibility for the consequences of his actions. Everything else can in theory be automatised. T. other anon.

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        The possible saving grace is that corps can't legally use the images. Dalle is not for commercial use. And it begs the question of who would they credit? And the AI is being fed images of art made by real people. Could the makers of the art take action? I don't fucking know tbh, this shit has been overwhelming my brain

        >The possible saving grace is that corps can't legally use the images.
        It is not keeping the corps from buying the code or making their own, and then just use it with the selected libraries of art that they have legal access to.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think plumber and that kind of jobs will be safe the longest.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anything that'd be too expensive to create specialized robots for or not worth the insurance cost.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >do you think that AI art will wipe out artists in the industry?
    Yes, if it's already this good then imagine it in 10+ years, I feel bad for artists tbh.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm an artist, and I see value in this tool as a sort of aid to artists. I can draw and animate, but I'm not great at character designing.

    If I use this AI to design characters for me, and I animate them, I'm not being replaced. At least, until they make an AI that can animate cartoon characters in a fantastic way.

    Anyway, I'm more optimistic as an artist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >until they make an AI that can animate cartoon characters in a fantastic way
      Hey Mr. Musk, check this anon's idea!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well that just guarantees it will never get made if ol Musky picks it up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        I'm actually not afraid of anyone creating an AI like this since animation is already difficult and tedious for humans, and AI already struggle to depict intricate things. Let me explain, but first I'll set the scene a bit:

        I'm primarily a 3D artist, and AI makes 3D renders that blow all of my work out of the water. I included an example of my work here.

        While an AI can easily make a render that's better than mine, I still created and retopologized a 3D character for cartooning.

        Now, to compete with me, that AI would have to render out each frame of animation without distorting the character into absolute horror. The character has to stay completely on model as well as the background and such for the animation to be pleasing.

        I can do that right this second. In fact, I am doing that for my youtube channel. When AI can do that, then I'll consider my work in danger, but I just don't think that's likely with the technology now.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't it just a matter of time and development? AI may not be there yet, but how long until it will be? Computers are already capable of doing things that seemed impossible not that many years ago, there's been some rapid advancement on these kinds of things.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I mentioned how its just a matter of time, but I don't think we'll see it gain any ground for a long time. By then, any 3D artist will have the tools to compete head to head with the AI.

            I just think that, if a complete amature solo artist like me can already put up a good fight with AI due to its limitations, what happens when we both mature? Computers will always have a limitation, like known margins of errors or issues that may even require human hands to fix. It just don't think its as bleak as others are making it out to be.

            I already told you I'm planning on using AI to help with my character design, so that tells you I'm forecasting people beating the machines.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I just think that, if a complete amature solo artist like me can already put up a good fight with AI due to its limitations, what happens when we both mature?
              Humans improve lineally, AI's improve exponentially. No human will put up a "good" fight, it won't be a fight at all, we just lose.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're thinking in terms of raw ability, but I meant in terms of recognition or fans willing to chuck money at the artist. You could have an AI that could create 50 masterpieces a minute, but would it matter if I was the more known artist.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you really think normies are going to go to the well known guy who can only make one cool image every few days, or the AI that makes 5000 cool images a month?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, actually. Normies always do shit for name value. Look at stuff like Supreme which is literally just the word "supreme" written on random stuff.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Normies always do shit for name value
                And you really think that corporations, the ones who can afford top of the line AIs won't build a brand around them?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't say the corpos couldn't, but that doesn't mean the average artist can't do the same. Really, we've been having this debate about corporate brands and art for decades. AIs just make it feel more cyber punky.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but that doesn't mean the average artist can't do the same
                It does when the average artist can't afford to run, and the ones you could run on your own hardware aren't going to be as capable as a copros multi million dollar server.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Turn the artists into cyborgs that can't eat, drink, or shit. They won't even need to sleep.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >my youtube channel.
          Can you share your channel? I'm a 3D artist as well, and plan on using AI generated backgrounds in my work, but I think AI will be a tool, for several years, maybe a decade before it replaces artists entirely.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its going to kill stock graphics market off the bat
      the its going to kill graphic designers if it can vector text

      then its going to kill animators there is an a.i tool

      anyone can do your job now and thats the problem

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I already mentioned why I don't think this will work just yet in the post above. Basically, while this AI is pretty cool, it just has some issues that conventional animation doesn't.

        You can even see at like 7 seconds into the video, the painting that they're suing over the existing video footage gets distorted strangely. I don't have that problem with my work, and I think it will be a while before they have an AI that doesn't have this issue.

        Also

        >anyone can do your job now and thats the problem
        You're way over selling it. If I challenged you to make an AI animation of a man walking down the street, you'd get yours out faster than me, but you're likely to have insane issues with it. Mine may take a bit longer, but I won't have these issues. As it is now, the only way to avoid AI fucking your work up is to only use AI as an aid and not as your main tool.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          at the moment when current a.i is on the market anyone will be able to just do the monkey work which you are suggesting

          if the a.i doesnt do it all and kill your job the entire flood of people with access to it will making it a rat race

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think the beauty of art is that there is no "rat race" as long as you're creative. When the Super AI is making "generic bat man fights the generic joker" for the 50th time, individuals like me will be making things for our own respective audiences.

            Even if AI could, in theory, perfectly make 3D models for people to use, I think you'll find an issue where AI generated 3D models look sorta generic, and at that point it would take an artist to make a generic 3D model look better. I actually look forward to that since it would be a load off my back.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              I dont think you have a job or understand whats going on

              you just admitted before you are only good at drawing and animating and not good at making characters so said it was a good tool for that and now saying a.i is not creative

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Me saying "AI is a good tool for character design, but I don't think it will be good without normal artists. At least for a while" seems like a pretty coherent sentence to me.

                Also, I think its fair to say "I don't understand what's going on" because I don't really know how AI works. I'll just say "from what I've seen, I'm not afraid" and leave it at that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that video is over 2 years old and continues to lean

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I still see some of the same issues though. Like the guys mouth looking strange when he's talking. Again, while I think AI can get to that point where I'd be in danger, I just don't think we'll be there for a while.

            Also, I think we'll be at a point where there's known limitations for the AI, but people will just go "EHH, good enough!" and launch it with those limitations, you know?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm thinking AI animation will be used in that cheap looking South Park style designs and "animation". I still have yet to see someone do it though.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes but there will be a monkey like you checking key frames until a.i solves it

              ebsynth is as powerful as the artist but when something like it is mixed will dalle 2 its game over for you

              employers wont care if it takes you 42 hrs in blender an a.i did it better in 42 seconds

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >employers wont care if it takes you 42 hrs in blender an a.i did it better in 42 seconds
                The AI would have to do it better though. Besides, I already mentioned that conventional media employers may not matter much if artists like me find audiences online. Personally speaking, I don't mind it if I never get hired by DC; I'd just have to see how the online landscape changes thanks to AI generated art.

                If I get an audience online, I would still have a lot of potential. I could try to take that audience and get the invested in a show on TV, or just make things online forever and rake in cash.

                Again, I want to reiterate that I only mean its possible. Its also possible that I die in a gutter or become that keyframe checking monkey like you say. It would depend on how much it pays though.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its going to kill stock graphics market off the bat
            the its going to kill graphic designers if it can vector text

            then its going to kill animators there is an a.i tool

            anyone can do your job now and thats the problem

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            Speaking of which, what do you bros think about EBsynth

            We're just talking about that a few comments above. In short, I think its amazing, but it has obvious issues that would keep it from completely replacing conventional animation.

            EbSynth isn't a AI or ML software. It's just a regular software, like photoshop. AI animation is only a matter of time though, and it will excel at rotoscope or face or full body tracking and replacement type animation at first, but eventually will be able to make original animation.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel bad for schizophrenic people because they have no fucking chance when deep fakes become widely known knowledge

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Perhaps

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Speaking of which, what do you bros think about EBsynth

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We're just talking about that a few comments above. In short, I think its amazing, but it has obvious issues that would keep it from completely replacing conventional animation.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This tech is limited access for now
    It's like that because the devs believe "free" AI should be heavily censored

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    DALL·E 2 will never be public because of stuff like this
    chudcels gonna chudding

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Verge: AI predicts Ezra Miller's last stand

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Verge: AI predicts Ezra Miller's last stand

      I'll be laughing when it turns out that even shadier services and groups are using it to render photorealistic cheese pizza the dark web

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *on the

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I'm going to replace my music library with AI generated songs, only read AI generated lit, and pretty much let the robots take over my life cause they definitely figured out the most optimal life style (probably)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we need to start feeding an a.i everything on e621

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has anyone tried running an AI generated radio station yet?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I watched a few of this guy's videos. The AI can put out some actually solid shit sometimes. Take On Me in particular had a few great generations.

        ?t=17

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >1:13
          That it can emulate that thing when the singer says something and a choir repeats it (no idea how it's called) is impressive

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here's another one where the AI occasionally does it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              >It starts with one thing, I don't know why
              >It doesn't even matter how hard shoes fly
              >Teeth that ain't mine, I should die, this rhyme
              >What's planet juice time? All I know
              >Time is a valuable thing, why should flies fly?
              >its unanimous wings
              >Watch a count down to the inminent
              >Again the clock ticks life away, so unreal (It's so unreal)

              >Didn't look after all
              >Wash the top, get out the window
              >Try to hold on, didn't even know our weebs get it all
              >Dusk till dawn
              Holy shit, it's a masterpiece

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Here's another one where the AI occasionally does it.

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          >It starts with one thing, I don't know why
          >It doesn't even matter how hard shoes fly
          >Teeth that ain't mine, I should die, this rhyme
          >What's planet juice time? All I know
          >Time is a valuable thing, why should flies fly?
          >its unanimous wings
          >Watch a count down to the inminent
          >Again the clock ticks life away, so unreal (It's so unreal)

          >Didn't look after all
          >Wash the top, get out the window
          >Try to hold on, didn't even know our weebs get it all
          >Dusk till dawn
          Holy shit, it's a masterpiece

          What is the legality on music? Can I use a song generated by an ai as long as it's for non-commercial use ?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Can I use a song generated by an ai as long as it's for non-commercial use ?
            non-commercial doesn't ever matter for copyright, you can be sued regardless if it's paid content or giving away free. Those things are obviously too similar to be used. If it was a fully AI generated song, then they couldn't tell you didn't just make it yourself, but legally so far I don't think AI generated content can be copyrighted, so you'd need to claim you made it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AAAAAA
        >THEY'RE OUT TO GET ME
        Unexpected kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The optimal life style, if we assume they'll keep humans alive, is unconscious and hooked up to whatever drugs or device that controls our minds to whatever state is most beneficial for the robots. They sure don't need us walking, talking, shitting, laughing, crying and screaming.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it sucks that a human vs AI war is inevitable. AI could be a tool that helps humans in an incredible way, but some humans are gonna fuck it up for the rest of us, and we'll either win the war and ban AI or fuckin die.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm on the robot's side here, if anything we should start seriously considering robot rights as a thing to prevent another civil war...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The best part is that robots aren't people yet. As long as we don't make them think, we'll never have to think about their rights because they don't have any.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ooooh anon you're going to regret that in 10 years...

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It'll happen eventually as we keep designing the robots to start handling more difficult and complex tasks, which will need them to have some form of lateral thinking. We probably won't even realize they're gaining sentience until one day, one suddenly asks if it's alive.

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this looks pretty nice

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a little wonky but a little touch up would make it look good

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Then we declare butlerian jihad and destroy all electronics smarter than a calculator.

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be me
    >Have a cool idea for a comic
    >I start to write the pinch
    >AI start making the art and words
    >The future is now

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eventually artists are gonna push back on the copyright issue of AIs trained with material that isn't public domain.

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Who wins the chess match, Light Yagami or Batman?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Personally I'm finding Mosaic and Stained Glass pictures turn out really well.

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >I'm an artist, and I see value in this tool as a sort of aid to artists. I can draw and animate, but I'm not great at character designing.

    >If I use this AI to design characters for me, and I animate them, I'm not being replaced. At least, until they make an AI that can animate cartoon characters in a fantastic way.

    >Anyway, I'm more optimistic as an artist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think the AIs will spare you when they see your meme face posts showing that you're on their side?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just thought that post was funny greentexted with that pic

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >all the gays making fun of artists when they lose their jobs to automation and ai a few days later

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based, now I can keep blaming all my problems on something else.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think ai's main use will be to generate things like background characters and other shit that would allow artists to focus on the important stuff.

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Writers Guild of America loses it all (again)

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone use DALLE MEGA?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DALLE MEGA
      And that is...?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A more powerful version of DALLE 1 that everyone is using.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well on the bright side. At least when this ai takes my job. I will know that all asian porn will forever be uncensored with this technology.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >porn
      the coastal elites and the brainwashed prole luddites will make sure that doesn't happen. they are afraid of the limitless potential of the imaginal and will gatekeep the commonfolk from this great tech. it will be a fruitless effort though because there will be third parties that'll create non-censored open-source versions. when this happens the moralistic-fascists will reveal themselves faster than ever when they try to ban it.

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like this design, it's like anime Adam West Bats, but less campy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To me, it looks like the Christian Bale Dark Knight mask shape, but with a more traditional comic-book suit, but also that Lee Bermejo "bat-insignia-over-cape" thing.

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno, still looking really uncanny

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Only a human can push the standards and also make art that fits exactly what is being asked for at the same time. Machines are still a decade away from being capable of the same level of nuance and creative quality.

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it becomes usable it will help people who can't draw create something but I doubt AI will ever get good enough to draw animation with detail

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what it'll be like when something like DallE2 gets widespread. Will a 2B ass pic be as interesting once you have an infinite amount of them? What about after a year of unlimited 2B ass pics? Or a decade? I wonder if art will see a bizarre renaissance where original, chicken scratch art with a distinct style will be seen as more valuable than the unlimited ocean of mass produced super art, like soul vs soulless taken to its logical extreme. I'll be happy with unlimited 2B ass either way

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