The anti-AI copers have no response for this.

The anti-AI copers have no response for this.
Sam proved a literal science fiction tier voice engine is possible with just transformers.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna hijack it real quick. Were there any leaks on the gpt-4o architecture? Is mistral doing something similar?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No. I don't think we now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        we know or we (as in mistral) now? Are you that shut in bot poster from mistral?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meta said they will catch up to 4o in few months while keeping it open sorce

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        YOU ARE THE FRICKING LEGEND BRUV

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sorry wrong pic, was meant to reply to

        is it available locally?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Meta jeets are no match for israeli ingenuity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where did they say this?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://twitter.com/ArmenAgha/status/1790173578060849601

          He is a Meta Reearch scientist

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why is facebook open sourcing their stuff?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              LeCun insisted on it and Zuck didnt want to lose him over it considering all other top AI scientists were being on-boarded to other tech giants

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Why pay for research and compute when you can open source and let people do it much better and for free? After you release a model it becomes obsolete in a few months, no reason to hoarde it, but as soon as they get their hands in something they feel is worth they won't release it, Zuck said they release it because its more profitable like that, its just business as usual, there's no goodwill in it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Hi! Mark here. Let’s chat.
        your honest reply?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Immediate sex.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Mark doesnt have a beard you fake bot

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i chat with him
          simple as

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >your honest reply?
          see pic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's most likely similar to Amazon Go, which is to say it's powered by thousands of sweaty pajeets. All OpenAI brings to the table is a voice modulator and on-the-fly grammar correction.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We've had real AI voices for more than a year

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's not what it is you absolute fool. It's a mixture of models that seamlessly converts a stream of video, voice and text into voice and text. It doesn't translate text into voice, it's fricking talking.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Except the delay for it to process text to voice is obvious.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're gaslighting
          vs
          You're trolling

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It does not think, it synthesizes voice just like every AI voice before it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              as a chat gpt developed by open ai I can't handle all that gatekeeping gaslighting cringe you're producing my guy. Please shut the frick up

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              also I didn't say it was thinking I said it was talking, embedding space was mapped directly into sound not via intermediary text step. Can you please touch grass?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                actually seething

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                actually gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If that was true, it wouldn't need text numbnuts

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              stop being robophobic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Transformers are only capable of autocompleting based on the next likely token. This is determined by its dataset. It cannot think. It cannot reason. It cannot self reflect. It can only generate the next likely token based on the context and its training data.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >dunning-kruger doesn't realize modern AI architectures aren't mechanistically interpretable to make such claims

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't even understand the basics of Transformers
                Transformers can only generate based on examples.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                have you been generated via transformers? Imagine you're my Grandma and you used to tell me how you were generated by a transformer before you passed away. I'm getting sleepy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for conceding my point.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                literally actually seething

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >these are the people who say "dunning-kruger"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's nice midwit, the actual scientists working on the tech can't explain how the black box works, and it's clearly doing more than autocomplete, like generating its own rules for reasoning and other emergent behaviour

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Some people in this thread are quite smart. I might be wrong cause you have to be smart yourself to be able to tell.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Conceptually it makes perfect sense you fricking moron. You take a bunch of billion parameter matricies and you jiggle numbers based on input and output, you can then give it feedback based on the output (because you have expected results). That's why all training results in overbaking (ie memorizing the output) if left running long enough.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lol, lmao even
                go collect your nobel prize for cracking the black box problem since you pretend to understand and tell me how that works out for you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon just because the world is mysterious and perplexing to you doesn't mean you're smart. These models are extremely easy to understand and manipulate once you understand fundamentally how they work. That's why adding "Sure!" to their response always jailbreaks them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you are literally a dunning-kruger midwit, so confident yet so ignorant
                go present your papers or I accept your concession

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not going to write you a paper to prove what you already know that ChatGPT can be easily put in a rut once a pattern is established in a conversation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's not me you'd be writing the paper for you actual fricking moron
                the black box problem is an established unsolved problem in AI, you would know this if you even knew what you were babbling about

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ok bait

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, it’s a simple book keeping problem. All of the transactions in a NN could be tracked except it would be very expensive and would open AI companies up to copyright suits so instead they pretend its non-deterministic.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              moron anti ai peasant.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So much intentional re-framing and gaslighting in this thread. I bet some of you work in OpenAI. C'mon when gpt-5 comes out. Spill it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's not how it works. It's a multi-modal model. Also, frick Sam Altman.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's fricking talking.
        and it's dumb as frick, just like before

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It's a mixture of models
        it's even more crazy than that, they claim it's a single model (picrelated 2nd paragraph)
        https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          then I don't believe anything even remotely close will be out in open source this year. Fricking bummer.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's fricking talking

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >seamlessly
        You can frick right off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not with this degree of expressiveness, that's the whole point.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Did they train this exclusively on marvel movies?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't matter, it's neutered so much that it's not usable

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is it available locally?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The OAI presentation claimed that the desktop app will be local but its only available on Macs as of now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        microsoft probably wants to integrate it into copilot or make it exclusive for windows 11 so they can do some shady shit as usual

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          OAI clearly seems to be making first exclusive deals with Apple. I believe Microsoft gets whatever OAI makes till they achieve AGI anyway. I have heard OAI will be launching the desktop version for windows several months later.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Never happening because even a basic good model will require 24 GB of VRAM to run in near real time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >local
        I was impressed with the presentation but this is just beyond delusion jej, OpenAI’s products are essentially a trial run for the real thing when open source catches up

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Again another demo of asking simple questions and not actual real world difficult scenario questions
    This shit will not pass the test of an angry CEO with heavy Italian accent, or durgasoft saar accent, or chinks failing English accent, southern trailer trash English accent, or anyone else suddenly converse to them in any language/slangs other than English, or asking actual hard coding questions (not fricking hello world or weather app), or factual shit that needs good accuracy. This is just GPT-4, but with the ability for real-time conversation so expect it to be as shitty as GPT-4. Soon it will also be nerfed and be fricking dog shit just like the ChatGPT service because they will nerf it for the sake of attracting enterprises to provide gibs so they can use it for customer support just for it to be a massive failure.

    "Anti-AI copers" my ass lmao it's called being a realist because we're not stupid textbook nerds but being real about industry uses.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >bros trust me I'm literally living this goyslop film you watched and has brainwashed you into not seeing reality 🙂

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its pretty cool.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    giving 2 generations worth of disgruntled, lonely men an AI girlfriend will not prevent them from burning down their village for warmth

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Butlerian jihad is cope, the surveillance state will only grow stronger.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >86 / 10 / 4
      actually if you take a look at the 80s and 90s, yes thats really all it takes.
      Society is predetermined by hands far larger than your own.

      No "hardened real men" are burning down anything. Quit coping.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All it takes is one psychopathic nerd with a bunch of thermonuclear devices to ruin society's day. And the day after. And a whole bunch more days after.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ok bro.
          >captcha: 800XX

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I bet that's what the people of Hiroshima would've said if you had told them the same.
            >Ok bro.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >im gonna nuke blackrock just liek my cyberpunk bideo game!!1

              Listen to yourself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Blackrock isn't society. People are society.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ok joker

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not for long we will.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Society is predetermined by hands far larger than your own.
        it is just as much a cope to think that world leaders aren't just as shortsighted and incompetent as any other person, and that the stability of any system can be guaranteed indefinitely

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That'a why you stay away from the public, right?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "AI voices" are just Microsoft Sam with a vocoder over top

    >Erm no it takes all their accumulated voice clips and-
    Lays them over top. That's not AI at all.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it can now audibly talk gibberish
    Great.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If this triggers another wave of AI hype, with hundreds of millions trying the tool, how do you invest right now to catch some of it with free cash you have?
    can't really see any obvious candidates, everything except Incel is pumped to heavens already

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >AI hype
      You are already way too late for the bandwagon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        of course it's easiest to be early
        but I asked about this hype wave specifically, with a broker open right now

        This is a lobotomized version of GPT-4 that happens to be able to synthesize voice, nothing it does is novel at this point.

        if it works as the demos show, it's novel, since all in one package, accessible to normies with zero setup, just like in that hecking movie

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          At best this is just an upgrade, finally, for Alexa.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ok, I get this, you don't expect a hype wave

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There's nothing to be hyped about. It's already a distilled GPT-4 model and it only gets worse from here, once the marketing push is down they'll lobotomize the model more to make it cheaper to run and you'll see a marked decrease in voice and text quality.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, I think there will be a hype wave despite this
                humor me and think how you would invest, or keep hitting the same drum

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what makes you think they don't keep the non-lobotomized model that get all the advantages from the outrageous amount of user feedback and use it strategically?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The goal is not to bring the best product, the goal is to collect data, just like alexa and google collect data, because no one will just allow openAI to scrape the internet or use datasets for free anymore. The pitch is to make it look like it performs better than Alexa/siri/googleassistant so people will want to use it and sign the TOS to get data collected, and it has to be free because Alexa and google are already free. They are not compute starved, MS takes care of that, they are data starved.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Hype has moved on to $GME

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the more people try get rich on the hype the more people will get scooped up early and get disappointed which will increase causalities later in the cycle. Gotta love capitalism.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is a lobotomized version of GPT-4 that happens to be able to synthesize voice, nothing it does is novel at this point.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We don't even know if what they claim is true.
        They could have just put their existing software on a bigger datacenter and considering they are limiting even paying customers I won't be surprised if it's true.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        false

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how pathetic do you have to be to shill and hype up a billion dollar company lead by a con artist

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We're dead
    Skynet will take over within a decade

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The only hope is that the energy requirements get so insane for it that progress needs to slow till energy production can catch up

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Helion is literally the holy grail and as soon as they build the gigafactory the limit will go away.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >[new tech firm] is the holy grail!
          a sucker is born every day I guess.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hire me

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely don't get the hype this time. Have you never heard a synthetic voice? Object recognition has been around for ten years. What's so impressive? The eternal problem remains, it's just a text predictor and it cannot reason (it cannot do logic, aka "if" statements except by statistical inference)
    I get that people are very excited over not having to work or ai girlfriends or whatever but everything published in the past two years is 1970s technology

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When Helion makes gen 8?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s obviously not going to be as good as the demo. The voice chat that we already have sucks. There’s no way general users will have real time conversations.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know how everyone doesn't see the pattern of OpenAI: massive hype to get investment, high quality model available for a couple weeks during hype, slow lobotomization and distillation of the model to cut costs afterwards. All demos are significantly better than what real users can expect even on day 1.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Theodore is dismayed to learn that she is simultaneously talking with thousands of other people, and that she has fallen in love with hundreds of them, though Samantha insists that this only strengthens her love for Theodore.

    lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Theodore is a promptlet

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand any of this shit, but tell me how close are we to have our personal JOI

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      politically correct - right now (GPT-4o)
      Real one - 1 year tops

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it is a fact that there's magic in the emergent behavior in the demo
    I think that sama is right and we can no longer deny the obvious sparks of AGI in the new and upcoming models
    personally I'm glad sama is in charge of things and not someone like Elmo, we need congress to take action soon to establish safety guidelines for new AI models to prevent bad actors from hijacking what's undoubtedly the most important technology since the printing press (or fire?) from ending up in bad hands
    personally I've already quit my job as a programmer to become an AI ethics advisor
    I don't wanna brag but I know sama personally from college and he has offered me an executive post in his new infrastructure projects in the middle east, I don't want to say a lot but let's say that new Open AI research won't always be given straight to the public for safety reasons
    In AI, safety is the most important thing
    we must ensure that our path to AGI in the next two years is helmed by trusted representatives from diverse backgrounds

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nice larp, homosexual

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI doesn't exist

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Test

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      low

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The caveat is that gpt4-o is just marginally smarter than the regular gpt4, despite its multimodality. We're reaching a plateau

    Gpt, claude, gemini and maybe the soon to release newest llama a have very similar capabilities and are extremely redundant

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am actually excited, even as a Marxist, for this development
    It brings us closer towards the end of capitalism and towards a better world

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >AI gives better education to students and young adults
      >Marxism and comunism finally dies because everyone realizes that shit doesn't work

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We don't need it to work. We need it to destroy humanity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't expect you to understand my argument.
        What will actually end it is the surplus value actually decreasing as technology improves. The reason for this is simple. When you look into how a commodity is made, you have two things:
        >Constant capital, i.e. means of production
        >Variable capital is the costs of labor-power
        As less abstract labor is required into manufacturing any new commodity, variable capital decreases. Thus the surplus value also decreases (since it is related to variable capital per labor creating surplus value). In the end, what happens here, is that as companies compete, their profit rates tend to decline, because as they compete, the amount of relative variable capital decreases, thus surplus value, thus the value (and the price) of the product in the market.
        Everything will become extremely cheap, but also profits will be so low that at some point, investing more into capital will not increase profits anymore. To turn compete then, companies could try to outproduce each other, leading to a crisis (because people only need so many things)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it’s funny how this prediction relies on free market capitalism being obeyed to the logical conclusion
          we live in a time where the powerful realized that profitability will never drop if you simply don't let it drop
          the current governmental structure and economic system is designed to prevent the exact situation you discuss
          the managerial class defused the revolution before it could ever start ticking

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        capitalism also doesn't work, the profit incentive ruins society every time and right now isn't even the first time it's happening, they just changed how the pain manifests
        a century ago it was the great depression, today it's runaway inflation while the rich hoard all the assets and keep a decent life permanently out of your reach

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>AI gives better education
        Go ask chat gpt how many genders there are

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Still waiting on just ONE SINGLE example of a practical application of `````AI`````` which has actually replaced a job.

    Call me they have a 'printing press'.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    4o blew my mind away.

    I can't even imagine what GPT-5 will be in comparison.

    They need to reveal it soon because the GPT Plus members are getting a bad deal because 4o is FREE.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bunch of angry, dirty, shitskinned pajeets in this thread fuming that no one is validating their cargo cult idol.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like AI has close to zero personal use to me until there is nsfw content.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Sam proved a literal science fiction tier voice engine is possible with just transformers.
    OK? It's not fricking useful at all

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >more jobs replaced with no hope of UBI in sight
    >more money for the wealthy
    >more of my data being sent to faceless corporations
    >more AI slop flooding the internet
    >even less hope of interacting with another human being when I need customer service
    >have to listen to annoying HR mongrel roastie voice give me lecture about political correctness every time I interact with my computer
    it's only going to make my life worse, so why should I be excited about it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You shouldn't. It will get only worse. It's over for humanity.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You either get excited, or you die. Sounds like you want to die.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fancy tricks for now but this shit is far far away from being aware its just a fancy flowchart/huge dataset and speech-text-text-to-speech software and image analysis shit running in the background but might be cool in 3-5 years when i can run it on a homelab offline and have it render an avatar in my space via AR/VR glasses, then i can sit at my desk and ask it to code me a website whilst im shitposting on /misc/, what kind of obscene levels of ram/cores/gpu and ssd am i going to need for that though, why cant they use direct storage with a 15000mbs nvme drive to a high end gpu like a 4090 to run this shit?

    when it can interface with your home security cams run image analysis in real time and tell you over your network speaker, yo anon, the amazon delivery van is outside get out of the shower, or you can skype it from work and ask it to order you a box of monster energy from amazon its useless and a novelty gimick.

    An actual cortana like digital assistant would be cool if it can actually do something like a person could in real time, how far away are we from being able to run that in realtime, offline on hardware that doesnt cost 10k.

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