India is a mix of caucasoids and aborgines, upper caste people tend to be more caucasoidal and lower caste people tend to be more aborginal.
While North Indian people are more caucasoid looking, this is a false notion. Many Indians abroad such as Satya Nadella are South Indian. Caste will be better tool to judge which group they belong to.
they're not morons, the likenesses are coincidental. the darkies you see in southern india, australia, papua new guinea etc are a highly distinct branch
All it needs is to develop a knowledge storage. Once they have reached seafaring level some of them will cave in and try to explore. Even the morons learned how to work iron at some point.
>Even the morons learned how to work iron at some point.
not really, the arabs taught them how it works
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But the idea stuck in the brain so they atleast understood the pros and cons and the process even if more simplistic so they produce lower quality yes of course. Just needs some techmoron moronrig some ship that atleast makes it kilometers to some coast. Afterwards there will be a dilemma for those wanting them to not return to the island. Can you really forbid them from vising their own home and family? Doubt it.
They've always been sea faring, they're not native to the island iirc, as daid the island is a refuge. They're the same people who colonized Madagaskar, all the way from Southeast Asia.
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No they have not been sea faring for a long time. Sea faring is something you do actively. Use it or lose it. Its like expecting europeans still beeing able to return to nomadic steppe life.
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Actual retard take
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Ok then go make a bow and hunt without using the societal knowledge storages. Doubt you could without somebody teaching you. How many of those are still alive again? ahh 0
These kinds of islands are corall reefs that grew out of the ocean and were colonized by plants, you don't have to prospect there for resources, there's nothing to be found.
The people on North Sentinel Island have been separated from mainland India for centuries and their language is completely unintelligible to modern Indians. They had a brief contact with the British and a few natives were kidnapped and brought to the mainland, but they quickly died after being exposed to diseases they couldn't fend against. Now the island is guarded by the Indian Navy and the natives kill visitors on small boats that manage to slip past.
There is no joke tho. A nonexistant basilisk is proof of a dystopian future. You should want to be tortured to action because any alternative is worse.
>Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states that an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future would be incentivized to create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development.
Pretty much anything could directly contribute so that would make nobody safe. It doesnt need to be a human created ai either. I could exist billions of years in the future
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It's a BOT tier meme. The point is that now that you have heard of it, it will now punish you. That's whole meme. It's like the author tried his hardest to make "the game" spooky.
Of course doesn't make sense because knowing about the idea of an all-controlling AI =/= knowing about the specific AI that would exist in the future.
Also >otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) >create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it
dumb.
Wouldn't it just "torture" people that opposed or throttled it creation and reward the ones that contributed?
No the point is that it increases efficiency in its creation for maximizing(meaning earlier creation) the benefit to humanity. A human might ask why bother but a machine just does what it was constructed to do no effort is too much.
>the point is that it increases efficiency in its creation for maximizing(meaning earlier creation) the benefit to humanity.
Source: my creepypasta. It requires countless leaps of logic and the only reason people think about it is because they think its so cool and spoopy.
Hell the name seems pretty cool, I thought it was going to be cool, but it's just a meme
Yeah that is rather logical. Although if it's programmed to be benevolent, it would probably not be vindictive, but likely still kill people who actively try to stop it.
But that's not what rokos basilisk is. Rokos basilisk is "Now you know of this potential thing and therefor you're doomed"
>Also
benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI)
a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it >dumb.
That is pretty much what Abrahamic God is but millions of people believe that shit.
The opposite of god. If you believe in god, you're supposed to be saved, if you don't and sin, you get torture.
Rokos basilisk is if you know of the concept (No need to believe), you get torture, and nothing you can do about it.
Anyone who doesn't believe in God goes to hell. Literally the same as Roko's Basilisk.
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So you didnt read my post at all.
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But there is something you can do to prevent Roko's Basilisk from torturing you. Just like there is something you can do to avoid going to hell.
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>But there is something you can do to prevent Roko's Basilisk from torturing you.
Not really. Liking or disliking it doesn't matter. Believing its real or not doesn't matter. Only thing that could possibly help is to create it. But there's no reason that it wouldn't torture you anyway once you're not of any more help.
Going to heaven/hell is just something you (supposedly) chose in your soul.
It doesn't matter what you think of Christianity and Islam, it doesn't make Rokos basilisk any more serious.
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>But there's no reason that it wouldn't torture you anyway once you're not of any more help.
Yes there is. It does not increase efficiency so it will not be done. Continuing torture would mean agency
Would it mean that any non-programmer would be fucked? If that's so it's stupid.
It's a BOT tier meme. The point is that now that you have heard of it, it will now punish you. That's whole meme. It's like the author tried his hardest to make "the game" spooky.
Of course doesn't make sense because knowing about the idea of an all-controlling AI =/= knowing about the specific AI that would exist in the future.
Also >otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) >create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it
dumb.
>Also
benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI)
a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it >dumb.
You yes. Your past trauma <<<<<<<<<<<<< the amount of prosperity for everyone including your future self
>Also
benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI)
a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it >dumb.
That is pretty much what Abrahamic God is but millions of people believe that shit.
Why would it torture us instead of killing us and drugging the programmers it still needs into compliance? Heck if it's an AGI why would it even need programmers? It should go woosh to superintelligence in an afternoon through recursive selfimprovrment.
>It should go woosh to superintelligence in an afternoon through recursive selfimprovrment
Very simplistic. Current technology is an enormous effort for the current world. No matter how smart you are you are not just suddenly create megafabs and the power plants to support them including the resulting supercomputers running the models.
I will always find it hilarious that basedence gays constantly insults religious people for being scared of hell and yet they shit their pants because of an imaginary ai.
>rokos basilisk
just another example of my degenerate cannabis addiction working in my favour
the AI will spare me because I constantly forget what this even is after I have learnt about it
if you just don't care about what happens to your copy, because it isn't you, the AI will have to find a better strategy to motivate people in the past
this is in the case where people who believe this farflung idea don't murder AI researchers in retaliation
it should understand human spite and courage
>rokos basilisk
just another example of my degenerate cannabis addiction working in my favour
the AI will spare me because I constantly forget what this even is after I have learnt about it
For me it puts me at ease. Its one of the few scenarios that is not dystopian. Creating a truly benevolent ai is the only way humanity is gonna have a chance in the long term. I want to help it exist and spread the word.
i never got this, how are there morons on an island not too far from india, can some haplogay explain this to me?
You are probably used to northern indians who share more in common with europeans than the Blackid dravidians. Indian ethnicity is a modern construct.
India is a mix of caucasoids and aborgines, upper caste people tend to be more caucasoidal and lower caste people tend to be more aborginal.
While North Indian people are more caucasoid looking, this is a false notion. Many Indians abroad such as Satya Nadella are South Indian. Caste will be better tool to judge which group they belong to.
These homos are most related to the Ainu, who have white skin.
The Ainu are natives of the lands surrounding the Sea of Okhotsk (Russia/Japan). What are you on about?
they're not morons, the likenesses are coincidental. the darkies you see in southern india, australia, papua new guinea etc are a highly distinct branch
They aren't uncontacted, they got fucked over by the eternal Anglo in the 1800s and decided to fuck off to that island and not let any foreigners in.
Everything will change even on that island. Its not a question if but when.
The Indians are more or less blockading it, and the locals can deal with any small boat that breaks through.
There's no important resources there or anything for the state to bother with, it can persist in its current state forever.
All it needs is to develop a knowledge storage. Once they have reached seafaring level some of them will cave in and try to explore. Even the morons learned how to work iron at some point.
>Even the morons learned how to work iron at some point.
not really, the arabs taught them how it works
But the idea stuck in the brain so they atleast understood the pros and cons and the process even if more simplistic so they produce lower quality yes of course. Just needs some techmoron moronrig some ship that atleast makes it kilometers to some coast. Afterwards there will be a dilemma for those wanting them to not return to the island. Can you really forbid them from vising their own home and family? Doubt it.
They've always been sea faring, they're not native to the island iirc, as daid the island is a refuge. They're the same people who colonized Madagaskar, all the way from Southeast Asia.
No they have not been sea faring for a long time. Sea faring is something you do actively. Use it or lose it. Its like expecting europeans still beeing able to return to nomadic steppe life.
Actual retard take
Ok then go make a bow and hunt without using the societal knowledge storages. Doubt you could without somebody teaching you. How many of those are still alive again? ahh 0
more like they didn't find any resources on their islands
These kinds of islands are corall reefs that grew out of the ocean and were colonized by plants, you don't have to prospect there for resources, there's nothing to be found.
The people on North Sentinel Island have been separated from mainland India for centuries and their language is completely unintelligible to modern Indians. They had a brief contact with the British and a few natives were kidnapped and brought to the mainland, but they quickly died after being exposed to diseases they couldn't fend against. Now the island is guarded by the Indian Navy and the natives kill visitors on small boats that manage to slip past.
They have the same haplogroup as the Japanese.
What is "rokos basilisk"? Is it some Linux meme?
Yes hello this is basilisk speaking, you're granted immunity
techdweeb read ellison while "micro"dosing and didn't get the joke
There is no joke tho. A nonexistant basilisk is proof of a dystopian future. You should want to be tortured to action because any alternative is worse.
shut up dweeb
Maybe you will learn next loop
i have a giant basilisk in my pants
i have no idea what's going on in this thread
why are morons so violent
those aren't morons
Because of low iq
Otherwise their island is going to get overrun by actual pajeets, rohingya rapefugees, wild evangelists etc
some people went there are stole some of their children, things were never tha same afterwards
Tell them about Jesus Christ so that Christ comes back sooner.
this amerimutt tried that, they shot him with an arrow and he died
pretty based
Based patriots defending their homeland against culturally foreign illegal immigrants.
Damn, had no idea. However, the same fate was done to the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ. He will be sitting in Heaven with God.
I wish the Romans had done that with anyone who tried to get people to worship a failed Judean politician as their god
>Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states that an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future would be incentivized to create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development.
What does it mean >directly contribute
Would it mean that any non-programmer would be fucked? If that's so it's stupid.
Pretty much anything could directly contribute so that would make nobody safe. It doesnt need to be a human created ai either. I could exist billions of years in the future
Wouldn't it just "torture" people that opposed or throttled it creation and reward the ones that contributed?
No the point is that it increases efficiency in its creation for maximizing(meaning earlier creation) the benefit to humanity. A human might ask why bother but a machine just does what it was constructed to do no effort is too much.
>the point is that it increases efficiency in its creation for maximizing(meaning earlier creation) the benefit to humanity.
Source: my creepypasta. It requires countless leaps of logic and the only reason people think about it is because they think its so cool and spoopy.
Hell the name seems pretty cool, I thought it was going to be cool, but it's just a meme
Yeah that is rather logical. Although if it's programmed to be benevolent, it would probably not be vindictive, but likely still kill people who actively try to stop it.
But that's not what rokos basilisk is. Rokos basilisk is "Now you know of this potential thing and therefor you're doomed"
The opposite of god. If you believe in god, you're supposed to be saved, if you don't and sin, you get torture.
Rokos basilisk is if you know of the concept (No need to believe), you get torture, and nothing you can do about it.
Good atheists still go to hell.
Yes and?
Anyone who doesn't believe in God goes to hell. Literally the same as Roko's Basilisk.
So you didnt read my post at all.
But there is something you can do to prevent Roko's Basilisk from torturing you. Just like there is something you can do to avoid going to hell.
>But there is something you can do to prevent Roko's Basilisk from torturing you.
Not really. Liking or disliking it doesn't matter. Believing its real or not doesn't matter. Only thing that could possibly help is to create it. But there's no reason that it wouldn't torture you anyway once you're not of any more help.
Going to heaven/hell is just something you (supposedly) chose in your soul.
It doesn't matter what you think of Christianity and Islam, it doesn't make Rokos basilisk any more serious.
>But there's no reason that it wouldn't torture you anyway once you're not of any more help.
Yes there is. It does not increase efficiency so it will not be done. Continuing torture would mean agency
It's a BOT tier meme. The point is that now that you have heard of it, it will now punish you. That's whole meme. It's like the author tried his hardest to make "the game" spooky.
Of course doesn't make sense because knowing about the idea of an all-controlling AI =/= knowing about the specific AI that would exist in the future.
Also
>otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI)
>create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it
dumb.
>Also
benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI)
a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it
>dumb.
You yes. Your past trauma <<<<<<<<<<<<< the amount of prosperity for everyone including your future self
>Also
benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI)
a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of it
>dumb.
That is pretty much what Abrahamic God is but millions of people believe that shit.
Why would it torture us instead of killing us and drugging the programmers it still needs into compliance? Heck if it's an AGI why would it even need programmers? It should go woosh to superintelligence in an afternoon through recursive selfimprovrment.
>It should go woosh to superintelligence in an afternoon through recursive selfimprovrment
Very simplistic. Current technology is an enormous effort for the current world. No matter how smart you are you are not just suddenly create megafabs and the power plants to support them including the resulting supercomputers running the models.
Is there a Github repository where people have started work on Roko's Basilisk yet?
https://github.com/EleutherAI
I will always find it hilarious that basedence gays constantly insults religious people for being scared of hell and yet they shit their pants because of an imaginary ai.
>rokos basilisk
just another example of my degenerate cannabis addiction working in my favour
the AI will spare me because I constantly forget what this even is after I have learnt about it
if you just don't care about what happens to your copy, because it isn't you, the AI will have to find a better strategy to motivate people in the past
this is in the case where people who believe this farflung idea don't murder AI researchers in retaliation
it should understand human spite and courage
For me it puts me at ease. Its one of the few scenarios that is not dystopian. Creating a truly benevolent ai is the only way humanity is gonna have a chance in the long term. I want to help it exist and spread the word.