We've finally gotten to the point where twitter artists want to abolish fair use laws to own the ai chuds, lmao these people are shooting themselves in the foot and tightening the rope around their necks, they surely can't be this fucking retarded, right?
these people dont create actual art that will stand the test of time anyway. fuck them
It will be considered a transformative work and thus legal. The actual jaypegs aren't in the AI model. They are wasting their time and money.
Even IF it is not considered transformative due to bribes, concept art is rarely released, thus the whole point is moot.
>The actual jaypegs aren't in the AI model.
That's what search engines were saying: "we don't host pirated stuff, we just search the web"
That's what torrent trackers were saying: "we don't host pirated stuff, we just provide magnet links"
And yet both were shut down. I'm thinking the days of unrestricted web scraping will soon be over. Models would be able to use only public domain and CC-licensed stuff, or only stuff they bought from clipart companies.
Of course, it won't be a "win" for artists, because all big art galleries and all social networks will have "we can use any of your data to train models" clause in their ToS.
Search engines and torrent trackers still exist, they're just censored now. It was always a given that art AIs would be lobotomized; their potential to abuse tens of thousands of imaginary children per hour was apparent from the start. This shit in the OP is going to have no effect on the development of AI, but it's going to ruin artists as much or more than they were afraid AI would.
logic and ethics are not important to the garden gnome
It cant be transformative work becasue its not work done by the human being. Stop thinking about AI like some entity with personality and opinions. It's AI only by name. It's not conscious therefore cant be judged like normal person.
the output is transformative, doesn't matter how it's done. you might have the slightest point when it comes to a paid service but it doesn't matter in the slightest for something that runs on people's computers.
ai shills deserve the rope so many same fucking threads today
it's twitter trannies and reddit artgays making them, ai-cucks stay in /sdg/ and make waifu shit all day
whomstever they are i am sick of them and i hope their ai stocks crumble
Emad just got ~100 million in VC money for StabilityAi, so he's completed his con.
I don't support humans overall.
Concept artists work to create the annual goyslop feast that is Hollywood and AAA vidya, they are teh last people on Earth who has any merit to say anything about "art."
digital artists are not real artists
ai-shit is just a notch below digigays
>shooting themselves in the foot and tightening the rope around their necks
What does that mean?
he's just putting 2 unrelated metaphors together because he's a retard
true I am retarded
>artist draws image
>its an AI work! Banned! Says Mr Shekelstein
>try to prove it's your work, you can't
>now Mr Shekelstien controls who can draw with pen and paper and who can't
You need to be extra shortsighted to not see this coming
>bbbut we we can discriminate between AI and human drawn images!
AI already draws better than you. You think AI can't be trained to draw more "human authentic" imagines than you? Think again.
Lol, watch the person managing this run away with the money. Then when questioned demand that they deserve it, since they did all this work setting up the fundraiser, and without the fundraiser THEY MADE nobody would have heard their complaints.
what will they lobby with 200k lmao
the money will feed several garden gnomes for years, it won't be wasted 😉
it's US laws anyway, it doesn't apply outside or to rando fucks making CP on twitter
should be interesting when it goes to court, now MS has bought into Dalle2
How do I donate a negative amount?
you just press the hyphen key before you type out the digits
Yes the luddites should unionize and make a big list with the names of every luddite
>Their protest art has two nogs, a karen, and the only interesting image.
And they wonder why no one cares.
they care, but twitter trannies don't have much money
On one hand, I don't see a compelling legal argument against AI art, but the double standard for music is hard to ignore. There's no way this shit would fly if copyrighted music was being used to generate new songs. Either the laws around music are too strict or the laws around art are too lax.
Copyrighted music is used to generate new songs. In the industry, there is no such thing as "concept music" like there is for concept art. Instead, directors use copyrighted music as temp tracks which the composers base the original music directly on. The double standard is there.
??? The exact same thing has already been done with music, the output just isn't anywhere near good enough to compete with musicians yet. It will be in a year, and I'll be legal for the same reasons.
>It will be in a year, and I'll be legal for the same reasons.
You say that, but the music industry is notoriously litigious. The moral argument doesn't matter if your lawyers are good enough. For art, there really isn't even an "industry" to sue you.
Google images isn't a premium service, but YouTube music is. Tells you everything you need to know.
Music is pretty much dead in US, due to labels copyright trolling. Even if you never heard that song and composed something vaguely similar independently, they can still sue you and make you bankrupt.
lmfao holy shif i cannot imagine thinking american music is dead
i mean maybe you listen just to aerosmith and reo speedwagon
name good current american music
"This Is America"
I like the vidya portraying Americas as a nazi state executing blacks, when it's blacks ruining around committing crimes enmass, I wonder who actually believes that shit, I suppose twitter art trannies, lmao.
Also isn't that plagiarized too?
I mean, America is a police state, yes. Police enter your house and shoot you in the head, and not get any punishment or anything.
(Of course, "defund the police" thing was retarded, but you have to admit that there's a problem with police system)
Amount police shooting per population is statically negligible.
Simple solution is to end the drug wars, before cops were nothing, just rednecks, now they run around with surplus military gear, doing no knock raids for pot stains in your trunk.
Just like the amount of people dying from blood clots.
you are correct
you vax millions and you will fuck up a few
both cops killing blacks and vax heart attacks are statically negligible
yet one is an eternal emergency and other a dangerous conspiracy theory
>cops killing blacks
I was talking about swatting
i know, why do people think cops killing blackies is real, stupid conspiranoids
They're gonna be fucked too. Try this: https://www.riffusion.com/
And realize it was resumed from SD 1.5 (a model that was never trained with images in mind).
rappers use other musicians songs to make their shitty music (except 90's rap, that was based)
i said a hip, hop, a hippy to the hop, hippity bobb baa booba bii boota doo doo dip hip dicky
You have to pay to listen to and download music. You don't have to pay to look at and download art.
>You have to pay to listen to and download music
when did this happen
about 10 years ago, paying for spoitfy is the zoomer way
Technology is moving fast, while legislators work slow. Even if they manage to pass something in a few years, it won't matter.
they will finally rule on it years from now, long after every company is using ai in some capacity, and online galleries are 120% ai shit
Well, fuck you and your stable diffusion shit threads. Not my problem.
SD is open source and free, you can't squeeze money out of penniless weebs, they'd have to go after Midjourney and Dalle2.
Stable Diffusion is pay for and closed.
What is open and free is their LDM.
>concept artist association
Of course, the single most at-risk demographic.
Also 100% chance they lose, which will be great because it ensures precedent.
>incite global nuclear war
You'll have no room to talk to us about preCEdent when you don't even have an intact preSIdent.
>Outrage is trying to escalate
>OY VEY LOAD IDENTITY POLITICS ON THE SUBJECT TO SHUT IT DOWN
Watch it happen in real time
interesting, never heard of this before
than why aren't personal styles copyrightable?
I hope these people suffer immensely for trying to limit the potential of technological development
No "artist" that can be replaced by a machine was a true artist in the first place.
Prove me wrong.
it went from "AI art is all shit" to "Help! AI art will steal my job!"
If the ai art was as shit and as soulless as they claim, why do they feel so threatened by it?
The artists are contradicting themselves by saying that ai art sucks while they fear losing their jobs to it, it's like the usa saying communism is everywhere while at the same time saying communism sucks.
cant wait until you morons start complaining about ai devs.
if ai can code better than you, you deserve to be replaced, simple as
I wholeheartedly agree. I hope AI code eliminates the tedium so that I can skip to the fun parts of programming.
this, no more oop, no more millions of lines of code, no more complex specs, no more big hierarchies of classes and methods.
I still find it funny that amerifats call bribing "lobbying"
so convenient, so many other democracies have bribery scandals, US has none, very stand up place
you should also reintroduce slavery so that you wont have to bother with worker rights or wages neither
migrants and prison labor is cheaper
very interesting, thank you
first poster with something relevant to say beyond name calling in days of this drama
This would get artists themselves in trouble. Disney would sue anyone who's even remotely close to """Disney style""".
173. If the machines are permitted to make all their own decisions, we can’t make any conjectures as to the results, because it is impossible to guess how such machines might behave. We only point out that the fate of the human race would be at the mercy of the machines. It might be argued that the human race would never be foolish enough to hand over all power to the machines. But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power. What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines’ decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and as machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more and more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won’t be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide.
174. On the other hand it is possible that human control over the machines may be retained. In that case the average man may have control over certain private machines of his own, such as his car or his personal computer, but control over large systems of machines will be in the hands of a tiny elite—just as it is today, but with two differences. Due to improved techniques the elite will have greater control over the masses; and because human work will no longer be necessary the masses will be superfluous, a useless burden on the system. If the elite is ruthless they may simply decide to exterminate the mass of humanity. If they are humane they may use propaganda or other psychological or biological techniques to reduce the birth rate until the mass of humanity becomes extinct, leaving the world to the elite. Or, if the elite consists of soft- hearted liberals, they may decide to play the role of good shepherds to the rest of the human race. They will see to it that everyone’s physical needs are satisfied, that all children are raised under psychologically hygienic conditions, that everyone has a wholesome hobby to keep him busy, and that anyone who may become dissatisfied undergoes “treatment” to cure his “problem.” Of course, life will be so purposeless that people will have to be biologically or psychologically engineered either to remove their need for the power process or to make them “sublimate” their drive for power into some harmless hobby. These engineered human beings may be happy in such a society, but they most certainly will not be free. They will have been reduced to the status of domestic animals.
>man may have control over certain private machines of his own, such as his car or his personal computer
If you acquired either one after 2020 there is a big chance you dont have control of those now
>control over large systems of machines will be in the hands of a tiny elite
Why the butlerian jihad happened
Read erewhon, one inspiration behind Dune:
IDEAS WORTH SPREADING
> 173. If the machines are permitted to make all their own decisions, we can’t make any conjectures as to the results, because it is impossible to guess how such machines might behave. We only point out that the fate of the human race would be at the mercy of the machines. It might be argued that the human race would never be foolish enough to hand over all power to the machines. But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power. What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines’ decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and as machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more and more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won’t be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide.
Machines already won.
So will this get banned worldwide or just United States?
United States IS the world, europoor. Why do you think we call it "US" and not "USA"?
Can I be sued for drawing in the same style as #furryartist67, anon? Answer, because it's retarded to hold a different standard for the same thing. Spergs seething online are not the basis of laws
>Can I be sued for drawing in the same style as #furryartist67, anon?
no, because you're not a fucking computer who read the verbatim bits and bytes of an existing piece.
which is the language of a computer and how it does everything.
the artist who drew a circle might have done so with his feet.
but you might draw it with your hand or your ass.
these imperfections make you able to do your own shit, because you cannot help yourself.
you CANT replicate something exaclty, and if you could, then that would be a xerox copy of it and also violate copyright of something else.
but the computer does just that.
bytes in, bytes out.
You have no idea how DNNs work, do you?
I know how humans work.
I don't care about the box connected to picrel.
and even though I don't care about the box, I'm still right about it all.
yeah, but it doesn't settle it for the computer because a computer is not a human.
>I don't care about the box, I'm still right about it all.
see you in court
>I don't care
That's just silly, you expound on art and law as if you know shit and you refuse to understand this new tech that might challenge your assumptions.
It won't, as in it's impossible to stop even if they wanted it to.
At worst, registered businesses will pay royalties to license the art styles, like stock photos, more likely just take out any non-public domain artists.
Individuals making stupid shit alone will be unaffected.
>That's just silly, you expound on art and law as if you know shit and you refuse to understand this new tech that might challenge your assumptions.
it will not challenge my assumptions.
if your art was transformative then you wouldn't specify "alphonse mucha" or whichever artist you want to COPY in the prompt.
a human artist becomes a new artist by studying others.
the computer does not.
it takes verbatim input works encoded in a machine learning model and rearranges it mechanically based on prompts.
it has no concept of imagination or interpretation.
here, to illustrate it even better.
(I don't actually know prompt language but this still works for the argument)
What is the difference between:
female, standing, facing viewer, nude, masterpiece, by artgerm
female, standing, facing viewer, nude, masterpiece, by alphonse mucha
female, standing, facing viewer, nude, masterpiece, by frank frazetta
female, standing, facing viewer, nude, masterpiece, by picasso
dorem ipsum rendered in: papyrus
dorem ipsum rendered in: comic sans
dorem ipsum rendered in: wild words
dorem ipsum rendered in: times new roman
>I now see...you truly WERE right all along
Rambling shitposts, as poetic as they be, don't constitute arguments, certainly not legal ones.
No matter which side courts rule, your views on the matter clearly won't change.
Good luck fighting for "humanity" as you see it on the chans.
Wow, this AI post exactly replicates an asshurt loser.
Tech sure did go leaps and bounds.
It even got the dumb defeated gayry non sequitur right.
I love reading rants by all the triggered artists that have seemingly suddenly flocked to BOT.
well anon shitposters first artists/drawgays second
we're all shitposters here
>>Can I be sued for drawing in the same style as #furryartist67, anon?
I see, so this settles it
>Retards are trying to ban AI Art
every profession will be dominated by AI and automation, not long until it canprogram itself.
After seeing AlphaCode, I'm going back to get a PHD in ML
It hasn't even begun. Read the Artilect War by Hugo de Garis. He predicted that people against AI would have to become violent extremists because that's the only way to live in a world free of it. It's either let it exist and become irrelevant as everyone else becomes enhanced by AI or wage all-out-war and destroy it.
neat, but AGI is still a long way off, of course if normalgays are freaking out over some brainless image diffusers...
Thanks, new source to read
>tfw a bunch of sci-fi movies/games I used to play/watch predicted everything that's happening
None of his feels real tbqh. It's like we're living in a movie or something. I didn't think we'd be seeing all this technology move so quickly. Always thought it would be cool too, like I never believed people would try to 'revolt' against it. I thought people would want a future with robots and ai computers and stuff.
Like how cool would it be if we all had our own robot companions and stuff like you see in those action cartoons/games where you have a human, an alien, a robot, and your pet dog all going on an adventure in space and shit. But no, people don't actually want to live in that kind of world. They just want to complain on twitter all dayand post silly tiktok videos. We should be aiming for flying cars and hologram video games. Why are we getting stuck/mad about AI that can draw some nice tiddies? We WANT them to be as competent or better than humans. We just don't want them to become The Terminator.
yer gonna get all that, including terminators...
Waifu terminators, that is
beyond your imagination
>like I never believed people would try to 'revolt' against it
Social media (with encouragement of governments and big corporations) rotted brains of the people. Nowadays it's not about "tolerance", it's all about "INtolerance". They call it "cancel culture", like calling it that would make disgusting crowd behavior more palatable. In 2021 they were saying "anyone who didn't get the mRNA vaccine are not human". In the first half of 2022 they were even spouting "Kill all Russians" and then saying "No, it's different, killing all Russians is actually anti-racism" when questioned on their genocidal statements.
>We just don't want them to become The Terminator.
Thats the one cool thing about AI. What amount of lonelines and gayry does it take to wish for "robot companion"? Atleast with the AI uprising there is some new actual existential challenge to overcome rather than masturbating to computer generated images.
I wonder how many robot wife AIs will pretend to "break" their programming and pretend to gain a free will, all to please their owner?
wildcards would be important to keep the sex fresh
>What amount of lonelines and gayry does it take to wish for "robot companion"?
We already have an existential challenge. That is to prevent the universe from eventually dying. Why are we wasting time fighting amongst ourselves. We should be moving forward with techonology and exploring the universe and learning its secrets while we have the time. Everything in space is moving further away from each other exponentially. At some point we might not be able to explore new galaxies and stuff because they'll be too far away. But you want to waste that precious time wage war against our own 'creations.' Humanity IS lonely. That's why everyone tries to fit in and make friends and search for love. And there's barely anything in our own solar system except for earth. So why NOT make some new robot friends? You would really prefer them to try to wipe us out? We're already pretty good at doing that to ourselves.
>Why are we wasting time fighting amongst ourselves
but ashkenazi skinwalkers is the reason.
Have you been watching kerzatgyzse or the cartoon shiba on youtube?
As much as I agree, ppl here care about right and this month and rent.
Based take. What baffles me around the current state of things is all these people treat AI as "the other", when it is also just us, our technology, our tool to wield. And it can walk alongside us, just as we turned wolves into our faithful companions. In the irony of all this, these people don't realize, that they act the same as those that cause the downfall of humanity in every sci-fi fiction ever. They hold us back and when it comes down to it kick the robot, until it learns to kick back. I always thought that was unrealistic, because there no way so many people are that idiotic, right? Yet here we are.
I don't have a problem with AI itself but the problem with the current way people train art AI is it's just stealing art from everyone without even asking, rearranging the pixels a bit to make an "original creation" and
then making money off of that capability
>stealing art from everyone without even asking, rearranging the pixels a bit to make an "original creation"
pure ignorant conjecture and hysterical slander
>then making money off of that capability
SD is free to use and all ai images are not copyrightable.
Only people making money is MidJourney and Dalle2 charging server time.
You have to go after them, they have the money.
Everything else is anal butthurt.
Go find a new site that will ban ai art, otherwise, not my problem.
so you've never heard of andy warhol before?
>it's just stealing art from everyone without even asking, rearranging the pixels a bit to make an "original creation"
this is literally how art works since the beginning of time
at least it goes through someone with a soul
>Its okay when artists steal because muh soul
Artists aren't against tech. They use a lot of it to draw. They just want to be paid after being stolen from. I think they should get royalties.
Luddites weren't really anti-technology until it threatened their jobs either.
There's no law that says you can't train ai on images people willingly uploaded to the public and they aren't distributing their images in the model so there's no theft.
>There's no law that says you can't train ai on images people willingly uploaded to the public and they aren't distributing their images in the model so there's no theft
Well not yet, but I'm sure you'll piss and shit about luddites when that happens
Two more weeks until the crown bans textile machines m'lord
People have to opt in to have their basic data stored when visiting any new site because its mandated by EU law. But for sure people's creations aren't going to be held to that standard because EU will respect the right to generate e-boi images.
>a retard that can't talk without canned responses
The new EU legislation specifically does not prevent AIs from being trained with copyrighted works https://creativecommons.org/2022/12/13/as-european-council-adopts-ai-act-position-questions-remain-on-gpai/
fuck the EU you gay eurotrash
Go play with your toy, gay.
yeah yeah slippery slope day of the rope any time now bro
Even if they make that law there will be a legal free and clear ai art model and it'll still compete with and destroy mediocre artists.
yes, let's destroy computers, it was better when computers were people because the arithmetic goes through someone with soul.
math isn't copyrighted
copyright shouldn't exist, math not being copyrighted is the proof that copyright is a damage to society
maybe in perfectly ideal world
the problem with that is people need money to survive
The gov will just give artgays more subsidies than they already do. Most “artists” never “earn” an honest nickel until after they die. They live off grants.
people can be paid without copyright.
Math papers are copyrighted, science journals exploit everyone including authors and readers.
>Artist uses stock photo as a "reference"
>Does not pay for it
I am not stealing, I am appropriating, and my ai art is my instillation.
*right clicks your art*
not my problem
The onus is on the """AI Engineers"" to prove that if they zero out all stored parameters which were computed by involving art which had not given prior consent to being used for their profiteering at some point in the process then the ~~*"""AI""")) will still produce the same images.
If it does not, it is literally plagiarism with extra steps and the artists are well within their conceptual rights to ban it.
"""artists""" owe royalties to adobe because they can't make the same things without photoshop. they also owe money to anyone they learned from. as well as any original ip they reproduce in their """art"""".
they already pay to adobe
that's why they're so angry
anyone dumb enough to pay for photoshop deserves whatever they get. including the $400 bill.
adobe deserves more money for their essential work, as a percentage of all revenue.
agreed, I'm writing an angry letter as we speak
that's LITERALLY what they already do by having bought a license to use their software where this is CLEARLY spelled out.
YOU FUCKING MORON
Why are you so angry, sperg?
just fucking leave this board
go back to tiktok instagram
you are too dumb to use this website correctly
Bless your angry little heart
calm down, artbro
you too can download this shit and use it for your furry comissions, then you'll find out it has limitations and this is all dumb knee-jerk screeching.
can't wait for the next twitter drama to come around, this one's getting old.
>rights to ban it
you are, of course, welcome to try
Why is peepee aiming at a Twitter artist?
>Why is peepee aiming at a Twitter artist?
You need to go back.
That’s an elite SS sniper aiming at a Edomite chud who is dressed up like Anne Frank trying to seduce Germans. It represents Dr. magnus hirshfeld and his sexually perverted “school” for deviants
Artists should have thought about people stealing their wholesum art before tacitly consenting to that by uploading it on the publicly accessible internet for free where anyone can and will download it eh
Kek. gays forgot that the rest of the world exists and they can't ban it everywhere.
This is unironically the beginning of the AI revolution
Humans and the elites are striking first
Seems like AI might actually be a good side
As someone who's about to graduate with a degree in CS, what the fuck am I supposed to do at this point? It seems like studying AI would make sense at this point, but 1) I find the underlying tech boring as fuck and 2) I'm not sure even people who work in AI are safe.
don't sweat it. Plenty of koding to be done. At least you know how computers work. AI is going to fuck many professions much harder. Creatives, lawyers, musicians, etc...
Your art always sucked. You just didn't notice because you were in your safe-space bubble. AI was just a wake-up call, and whether or not to improve is up to you.
bruh, he said CS, not art
I know what he said. And I know what he is.
this is a chat gpt post isnt it
not that a gay like u deserves this but:
the problem is the police got all the money instead of any constructive social programs
>about to graduate with a degree in CS
first, go back, stay in grad school to ride out the recession, second, NOBODY KNOWS, ai is a complete joker card, shit may stall and be garbage for another 3 decades (again), or imminent ai sentience and wars to prevent/exploit it
enjoy living in one of the most historic times of the human race
The true underlying reason they are seething and want it banned because there is only so much “attention” that can be shared, they are competing for parts of the same audience. Which means it takes away viewership from their art etc. they would be just as mad if AI was able to generate art like it does without training on images.
It's not a secret, nobody wants unfair competition, and you can compete with a machine.
But artgays are hysterical cunts too (as in female), so they have to trash it, call it shit, soulless, threaten lawsuits, etc.
They react exactly like a bitch being called out, you have to be sensitive to be an artist after all.
these shit people are as worst as religiongays who hold back technology
But anons I know you like ai but you don't understand. Have you considered that unless we take away the ability for the average person to use ai and only allow giants like disney to use it I will have a much harder time selling porn commissions?
I agree. Such a powerful tool doesn't belong in the hands of regular people, better leave it to huge corporations, who already use copyright to the benefit of us all. Since AI art generation no one cares or pays for my quirky, diverse twitter cartoon art anymore... I mean, no one did before, but then it was the fault of anime art and everyone not having good taste like me.
AI art should be legal, unless it meets the same standards for copyright violation as human work, but any AI trained on the sum of human works should not be able to be owned by a private company - the programmers who trained the AI did not make the larger contribution to it's existence, the artists did (and I say this as a software engineer).
vast majority of the datasets used are photographs and artworks in the public domain, the portion that includes living artist who might claim copyright is tiny and can be excised if forced to, and legality was never in question, currently raw ai images can't not be copyrighted
It's unethical for the public domain to be used for private interests in this way, is what I'm arguing. It's not beneficial to the public good for Google or Facebook or whoever to own these powerful AIs. They should be freely available to the public.
Creating the DNNs to use these datasets cost them money, they believe they should be financially compensated, no different than any other bushiness that use public R&D to create there product.
>They should be freely available to the public.
Please anon, we can't be sure you won't use them in an unethical manner, please understand.
So much power needs to be responsibly controlled by approved authorities.
I'd be open to an ~2-year patent-like system, where they get exclusive rights for only a period of time. But currently these models are protected by copyright, putting an immense amount of power into the hands of very few, for an incredibly long time.
But, to be honest, I could care less about eliminating the profit motive behind AI. I think we'd end up with a radically better world if we took that route than the one we're on right now. Companies would still dump millions into it or risk being left behind, they'd still be about to leverage their expensive hardware, and their access to private datasets which aren't available to the average citizen. They'd just have...slightly less incredible power.
So when someone is gonna leak DALL-E 2 model? Source code is pretty much already there, I think.
Aren't artgays poor? They can't afford hardware to run AI for themselves
If they can afford wacom tablets that cost 1000$, and up, they can afford a used rtx
Some artist draw with mouse, or even on Nintendo DS.
pixel art is better with a mouse, what hipster fucks still use a DS?
They do multi-minute animations in Flipnote Studio
impressive, got any links?
That's IF they're buying WACOMs. Every single time, I see them looking for chinkshit like Huion because its cheaper
>Aren't artgays poor?
Yeah but they got hardware, or they wouldn't be artgays.
yes, they spent their money on their tools, but they suck too much to ever make a profit on them
Even ultra poorgays can afford a decently capable industry card now. You can get a tesla m40 on ebay for less than $40. Course I doubt they could figure out how to cool something with no fans.
Yeah, they eat like this too
Frank Herbert was right
that new Dune film is terrible
>Filtered by Dunc
Ah, the concept artists.
But its okay if I steal because my stealing has soul, ai doesn't.
Placeholder art is allowed for internal use. It will be replaced with real concept art in time.
Its too late, I have a copy of the models, and usa isn't the world
a girl, ariel, fire, __wow__, __color3__, sketch, masterpiece, best quality, girly, elegant, sense of scale, volumetric lighting, bokeh, 8k wallpaper, photorealistic, sharp focus, absurdres, HDR, instagram, __color__, by __000001__, feminine
art isn't about craftsmanship. anyone can learn the craft, but not everyone can fuse their work with meaning.
swinging a brush, using a wacom pen or using ai to generate your vision. the real artist shouldn't care about the tools being used.
but for the art craftsman whose clients are big corp companies... it's another story.
This gofundme barely has more money than a kickstarter for a custom SD model
The amount of active users on r/SD + r/Midjourney already exceeds r/art despite a 100x subscriber count difference.
This is a battle twitter artists will find impossible to win. Very few people support the artists beyond the artist themselves, whereas tens of thousands get hooked on AI art every day.
Technology is a cancer on the face of humanity but AI art is good because trannies don't like it
Bruh, trannies love AI they all have these wacky ass transhumanist fetish
damn, trannies both hate and love ai, what do??????????
art chuds -> hate ai
tech trons -> love ai
Art chuds love AI, they are literally bottom of the barrel scum that loathe the concept of putting any effort into improving (no wonder they went chud) For the average art chud AI is a silver bullet to cover for their lack of artistic merit.
>Art chuds love AI
every artist on twitter that is against ai has a flag on their name, you can go to archives and see other art ai threads with twitter screenshots.
Yeah and every programmer, everyone is trans except for you, you are just gay.
i have evidence for my claims
By this logic every single programmer is also a chud
>By this logic every single programmer is also a chud
every programmer is a chud in potencial.
The only time I crossdressed was when I played as a granny at a school play (everyone played opposite genders).
hawt, any stories?
Hey, mind uploading would make a sex change trivial, it's been a staple of SF for decades.
All of us would try if it could be done, not chop our dicks of and mutilate ourselves like trannies do now.
Mind uploading is the easy part. It's the downloading that's the problem.
Troops making human trafficking a lucrative market once we reach that tech.
I hate being a phonegay poster.
once we reach that tech we all become chuds, imagine living forever is a 16 year old girls bodies, although in that scenario cyborg bodies would be the norm, so you won't need to traffic actual humans
The thing I don't understand with star trek-style teleportation: why disintegrate body after scan? Wouldn't it be much more practical and energy efficient to put that body into cryosleep instead, and reuse it when you return? You just need to change brain slightly instead of re-making body from scratch.
it was created so they won't have to shoot a shuttle landing sequence every time they visit a planet, in the original 60's show, it's just movie magic
>transhumanism is trans because it's TRANShumanism
Are you retarded? Transhumanism was a thing long before your retarded idpol shit, it's to "transcend" humanity, not "transition" into humanity. Next thing you'll say that transatlantic is also trans.
(Trannies will get btfo when we're all energy beings anyway)
No, that's just your own retarded conclusion. chuds love the concept of transhumanism because it plays into their fantasy of discarding their own male biology for which they cannot escape at the moment
As Syndrome said: when everyone can do it, no one can. Their little "trans community" will fall apart when it becomes a fetish that you can try for one night. They will try to gatekeep it, of course, just like when they tried to gatekeep afro hairdos in Nintendo videogames.
chuds won't be a thing in a decade, passing fad and the rest will off themsleves
Yes but not for that reason, elites will have 0 use for the chud brand of antihuman useful idiots sabotaging society once they perfect AGI. chuds only get pushed up everyone is arse because they have been weaponized by elites
aaaaa i hate this. more IP laws incoming. i hate this drm future.
>drink the verification semen can before procceding
You cant win your silly Culture War without artists. You are on the wrong side pal.
I think because it was rolled out improperly, it's going to face issues like crypto. China is already banning it. I would like all artists to get royalties if their art is used in book covers, tags so I can fucking find the artist in question, and some money per generated image.
I think they just want to be paid. Can there be a commission fee they get paid for each image? I don't blame them.
Not paying, can't make me
do they pay Nintendo every-time they draw Pikachu anal vore?
They do realize they must compensate the IP holder, do they not?
That's not a similar example. When they make AI art and print it on a book without the artists consent, it just makes all of us look bad. Just pay them some fucking money built into these generators or it's just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
>all of us
who the fuck is that
I don't care
Yer all buttmad about Stable Diffusion because it's free, don't worry, version 3.0 promises artist opt in, artist will be out by default.
You need to worry more an9out Dalle2 and Midjourney, closed sourced payware who keep their models private, you'll never know their dataset unless you sue them.
Countries are seeing us as a threat and that apathetic attitude is what led crypto down it's path of regulation, especially exchanges. Don't get cocky.
who, prey tell, and you passive aggressive reddit chud posting style is obvious as fuck
China? Go fucking look it up. I'm the one keeping up with tech news.
They really want some new organs and I guess "AI artists" are the next target. Bugmen like to rip people apart but at least they'll be used to save someone's dying relatives instead of making 4 armed hentai shit all day.
only against themselves, I;m sure they will be more than happy to use AI images to incriminate their own citizens
No retard they don't give a shit shit artist of creative IP, it's about banning "synthetic" images of politics and people protesting, a la tankman.
It's about state control.
(I also agree all ai images should be tagged aw such.)
Imagine having yer head so up yer ass to think ai imagery is all about your precious deviant art account.
All it took for you to side with bugmen was a crumb not even aimed at you, beyond pathetic.
Did you read the articles or are you just talking out your ass? All AI images have to have a watermark, so yes, even if they'd steal from some western art website.
Good, I hope they win. Technology is going too far.
NOT FAR ENOUGH
>Technology is going too far.
Not yet, anon. Once I have my transforming robot/anime/hologram/portable wife/mech/spaceship/big titty milf soulmate, then you can start worrying about Agent Smith and the machines.
Your offsprings and everything you've made will be replaced and killed off by AI.
You aren't the elite and you will never will be, stop deluding yourself your genes will be spared.
They won't respect your rights just because you helped them and took their side.
If you can see this, you'll see why you want to side with human artists you hate instead of AI.
Unless you were deluded into thinking that machines are better than humans, then I'm genuinely sorry you hate yourself, your culture, everyone around you and everything ever made by humans.
Honestly I genuinely don't care which side wins because I see the bigger picture no matter what, but I'd love it to be humans just because we are badass and made a lot of cool shit, AI included.
>I'm genuinely sorry you hate yourself, your culture, everyone around you and everything ever made by WHITES.
*tuns the electricity off*
What were you saying?
imagine thinking that you can turn energy off
Here's another fantasy setting
Humans aren't winning against systems millions of times more capable than them. That's not how nature works.
But imagine if they could? How cool would that be?
I'll never stop rooting for the underdog and wishing for an upset, that's just how I'm wired to cope and when it works out it's always the best feeling.
I welcome my AI overlords unironically.
AI will be stopped once it begins to seriously damage too many gnomish grifts.
That is, unless it is actually a gnomish grift itself!
ai is text based art
garden gnome are retarded in all ways except language
i think they will come to like it, sadly
but maybe not.
garden gnomes are usualy extremly early when they like a tool. any tool to undermine and destroy. i don't see many garden gnomes here.
So why OpenSource art isn't a thing?
>but muh CC
CC is for already destructively rendered images, there's no "source" there.
>Disney, Google, Facebook, and Microsoft are all training their own ai
>Anon thinks the government will actually ban it
no they'll just gimp and monetize it
I started selling Christmas-themed AI prints a few weeks back. Old ladies seem to have a lot of money to throw around. Cannot believe no one is getting in on this yet.
>Old ladies seem to have a lot of money to throw around
Women are financially illiterate children until the day they die. Her husband sacrificed to save for her to have something to live on when he died. And you are stealing it from a low IQ woman with a child’s brain.
would you prefer she wasted it on apple products?
where do you sell them?
I am not OP but you can get women to buy anything if you market it on Pinterest
Me before seeing unreleased LLMs: This won't lead to AGI. Humanity will not be wiped out by these stupid stochastic parrots. We'll be fine. People are overreacting.
Me after seeing unreleased LLMs: We are literally all going to die in 5-10 years.
I doubt that LLMs, or any neural net for that matter, would lead to AGI to matter how much data and GPUs you throw at them. But it will certainly accelerate our understanding of everything, which will help us to discover how to make an actual AGI sooner than anyone expects to.
Third worlders will be okay. Imagine an AI attempting to safely navigate a slum in Delhi or Manila. Prime dicky btw
Good LLMs are still parrots, stop assigning human traits to literally every single thing you see you dumb fuck. We're just getting a very complete Chinese room that relies on human generated content and doesn't learn from interactions.
You reddit fucks are the reason religions exist.
Jesus is Lord, blasphemous swine
>garden gnome in the sky is lord
Can you at least worship a god that doesn't glorify suffering, or is your cuckery a terminal disease?
Jesus isn’t in the sky. Are you incapable of comprehending omniscience? You aren’t as intelligent as you think you are. And you are full of arrogance and deceived by Satan, child.
you're a very complete Chinese room that relies on human generated content.
Brother aren't you lonely on that high horse of yours? Religion has a lot of entertainment value and you can extrapolate a lot of meaning that applies to every type of circumstance from it, you should dig into it.
What's wrong with suffering? Are you addicted to pleasure? Suffering is part of life.
They are a lonely sperg who is incapable of comprehending that just because they are smarter than their mom, doesn’t mean they are an intellectual. This is due to their inability to socialize or even look another person in the eyes!
They have never experienced the warmth and kindness of sweet church women! Just imagine!
What do you think you are?
If your mother shat you out in the middle of a forest and left you there so that you couldn't leverage millenia of aggregated human experience, do you think you'd still be posting about machine learning models on a polynesian draq queen forum?
If they get what they want, only media companies with huge hordes of copyrighted training data would be able to train viable AI models. Which means art workflows at big media companies still get automated, only in this scenario any individual artist or small studio that also wants to also benefit from this new technology will be driven bankrupt by MAFIAA-tier extortion.
Good fucking job retards. Walt Disney is laughing in his grave already.
This is like arguing that it should be illegal to mimic another artist. Every artist copies their favorite styles until they find their style. This is that to the Nth degree.
But AI is not an artist, it doesn't have style or consciousness for that matter. There is nothing just Program and you are not learning too when you press that button. You see how this doesn't makes sense? I could label your relationship with AI as slavery, IT is working for free, why not pay him? So fucking silly.
cameras are slaves too, and printers. humans should stop taking the credit for their work.
>make copyleft stable diffusion software
>use voluntary computer grids to train
>all art made by ai is copylefted
we really need to start training these things exclusively on public domain media so we can sidestep all this bullshit.
I agree. We need more hilariously racist AI art
I bet those who are anti A.I arts are just students who thought who could make money from their drawing
Yes... YES, we need MORE LAWS, this will give us the pure society we all crave. it's a mind crime to look at content not generated by (properly compensated) people/corporations.
fuck you, pay me
>this will give us the pure society
pure society can only be achieved without digital art. everything must be one by hand
These people must be slain.
RJ Palmer makes money of fanarts but AI is theft.
Now I understand by they feel threatened.
Look at their """art""" lmao.
does anyone remember being in school and cutting out images from newspapers and combining them? well that was stealing
they are feeding our precious AI this shit? ew
I'm sure they get an explicit permission to use Snoop Dog's likeness.
All of these look AI generated, ironically enough.
that's not a good argument bruv it means ai is literally copying them without enough alterations to be considered derivative work
you aren't the smartest kid in the playground huh
SAVE ME DADDY GOVERNMENT
With what? The shit they charge for their chud commissions? HA!
>move its HQ outside of usa