Realistically speaking, what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work?

Realistically speaking, what stops highschool & university students from using ChatGPT to do most of their work? All they have to do is to rephrase and change the structure a bit.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bros, I miss TAWoG.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I heard it’s getting a movie and maybe getting a new season.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It and Regular Show were older zoomer kino

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit. Regular show had mostly stopped airing by the time that gumball started coming on. Adventure time and regular show were older zoomer kino.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          shame adventure time got pozzed by homosexuals in the writers room and turned into some wokie angsty teen muh feels bullshit instead of the twee so random comfy fest it was in its first few seasons

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Regular Show, Adventure Time and Gumball all aired at around the same time.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        no they aren't they're more modern. you are thinking of shit like danny phantom or my life as a teenage robot. that's older zoomer kino

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      same, it was comfy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It and Regular Show were older zoomer kino

      Bullshit. Regular show had mostly stopped airing by the time that gumball started coming on. Adventure time and regular show were older zoomer kino.

      Modern w*stern animation is NWO goyslop. Anime is 9999 times better.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Oy Vey, komnitchia wa fellow american, please stop viewing american pysop and watch our pysop instead

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the soijack/chudjack/troonyjack/gigachad meme era fricking sucks

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >meme era
            do you have a timeline of meme eras?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            sez u

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              literally hilldawgs vibes

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            and if you say you hate it, you get swarms of swarthy zoomer seamonkeys replying to you with them. every day i feel more and more out of place here...sucks

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          do you really think i'm reading all that shit dog

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          modern cartoons are nothing like from the meme

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          gem

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >someone took the time to make that trash

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          simpsons is a christian show
          anyone who watched it votes for trump and hates Black folk

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          now replace left with shows like big mouth Black person
          the west has fallen
          millions must watch anime

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    nothing
    schooling is unironically over

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In person exams that they have to attend

    Maybe they don't do this in the US, but here we had to sit and write full articles over the course of a couple hours without internet access

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ive already managed to hook a butt plug with cellular connectivity to Chatgpt. Im going to out pace ever intelligent peer by excelling at academia and become the head of AI research even though I am incredibly dumb. Chances are, the other heads of research will also have butt plugs like me. Together, we will hoard all of the new research being done and funnel it into our butts instead.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Stop cheating at chess you deviant

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You know how you can use audio passed through bones to get sound? Simply put device inside your cheek that will vibrate and pass sound through mouth to your ear, and boom, you have the audio component ready to recite to you whatever you ask.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Whatever you ask
        And ow exactly are you gonna ask it anything? Licking in Morse code?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Simple, button hidden on your body to tap to type morse code question.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You know how you can use audio passed through bones to get sound? Simply put device inside your cheek that will vibrate and pass sound through mouth to your ear, and boom, you have the audio component ready to recite to you whatever you ask.

            Congrats, you have successfully cheated on one question

            In the meantime your classmates finished half the test because they knew what they were doing

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not saying it's a good solution, but that it's possible. Furthermore you can type in morse code real fast with a bit of practice.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Gave it an old question from a signals/networking course. The coursework consisted of a bunch of short questions, and this particular question is fairly straightforward to answer (just multiplying some stuff after identifying what to multiply), so basically an ideal case for ChatGPT.
      It fricks up the actual arithmetic (should be ~433Mbit/s, not 520), but that's trivially checked and the answer is otherwise reasonable. Cheating with ChatGPT is definitely a possibility on that course.

      For now, I think the answer is to avoid short questions with simple answers and instead assign fewer but larger projects. It wouldn't have been able to handle my data analysis course, where we needed to import multiple datasets, clean them, join them, run various statistical tests, make some visualisations, and then write a separate report summarising what was found. ChatGPT currently struggles with consistency and retaining context/focus over a long conversation.

      But it'll only get better, and I'm sure it will eventually get to a point where it can comfortable handle that kind of thing.
      Long term, the real answer is
      Physical exams suck, but coursework cheating is already possible in many cases and will soon become trivial in most cases, so it won't be tenable to ignore it for long.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It does indeed frick up arithmetic most the time, so you're going to have to check it yourself anyways. Plus it could also give you a bad explanation too, particularly if the question isn't cookie cutter.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Hell, it works even better if you live in a country that isn’t America or Britain, you can translate that shit in your own language.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking wish I had chatgpt back in school, god it would have felt like cheating

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    unironically this

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No civilized country would do this for every single assignment

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They don't have to do it for every single one

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that's a college entrance exam
        they dont value GPA much
        you can technically get into med school for extremly doing well on that exam

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    maybe chatGPT will require a subscription and universities will be allowed to check if you have it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >using my dad's ChatGPT

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work
    Nothing. That's the beauty of it.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    either we are going to back to pen and paper or we are going to embrace AI...
    Actually, if we embrace the AI, there will still be losers and successors so maybe it's the way.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's pointless, all it does is gather data and rewords it. It's no different than speed reading and rewording.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, and that's exactly what I do. Frick school.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They already do
    >t. Banned

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. I've been using ChatGPT + Bing for all my subjects other than Humanities. I have 2 As and 3 Bs so far, I haven't done a single thing other than like 2 in class quizzes. I think I'll drop out at the end of the year but that's unrelated.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Over time, I think culture will ultimately shame them out. Cheating isn't anything new and there are plenty of ways to cheat from copying previous-year students' work to paying pennies for some Chinese guy to do it. But in the immediate there will be a massive uptick in cheating because the social mechanisms for shaming this particular form of cheating haven't formed yet. It will be interesting to see how it impacts education. Personally, I'm of the opinion that those cheaters are probably valueless midwits who are only outing the fact that their mediocrity can easily be replaced by AI, but hey what do I know.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How is it in the 1990?

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see a need.
    College is easy as hell because everyone goes now. There's little standard.
    If you cheat in modern day university you actually are moronic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. Plus, just doing the fricking work yourself helps with critical thinking and communicating when you're actually in the workforce. No reason not to do it and possibly frick your chances of graduating when you're paying thousands of dollars to be there

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >If you cheat in modern day university you actually are moronic.
      I cheat because I don't give a frick about the material
      >taking economics class: you must HECKING LEARN WHAT BANKERS SAY ABOUT THIS
      >taking CS class: you WILL learn from a chink, bust your asses on assignments, and get a shallow understanding of the material. I didn't even show up to the graphics class, got an A and helped out the class studying. Why? Cause I was interested in OpenGL at the time, and studied it by myself. I had Anki deck full of DBZ references that I forced the class to use
      The only classes I didn't cheat on were my math classes. They respected my intelligence and I got an A cause I cared. I would have been a mathmatican, but I'm a moron (as are my parents), and so they told me that "there's no money in mathmetics". To be fair on my dad, he told me to be a man and do EE, and I realize he's right.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Exams.

    The point the assignments and essays is constructive learning as well as the development of writing skills and critical thinking. So yeah, you can shit out a load of work via chatgpt but eventually you will hit an in-person exam and you will come short in a big way.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically speaking, what stops highschool & university students from using stack overflow to do most of their work? All they have to do is to rephrase and change the structure a bit.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >All they have to do is to rephrase and change the structure a bit
    That is entirely the reason why. Most of them are too fricking moronic to do that.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Redo tests and essays to be demonstrations of actual problem solving instead of rote memorization and regurgitation of information that's immediately forgotten the second the term ends. Make the projects genuinely interesting and worthwhile so kids feel motivated to work on them, and failing actually hurts them emotionally so they learn how to deal with doing a bad job despite putting in effort.
    They could also fix a lot by having teachers be cool people and to improve the country so kids feel some sense of obligation to do their best. Teach them to have pride in their work.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, cheating with outside sources is nothing new. I did the same thing where I'd copy paste an article and shuffle the topics and bust out the thesaurus. it'll just be the fancy new way of doing the same thing, like sneaking in a phone instead of a cheatsheet

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ChatGPT will help me to write my thesis and nobody can do anything about that

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work?
    Written exams, but ChatGPT is not that much of a problem in comparison to other problems with the education system.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Education was already a scam. Now it is an even bigger scam. Shocking, I know.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >moron nation

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It applies to the whole civilized world. There is literally no reason for a young person to spend 15 years of their life learning useless facts for exams.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They're already doing it, I have an intern at work and he uses ChatGPT for all his problems.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, but ChatGPT won't change much.

    The non-interactive, submit paper - get grade workflow is broken anyway. Plagiarism is rarely checked, shadow writing assignments is a real industry, gpt only made it cheap.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ChatGPT is blatantly inaccurate and inconsistent in many topics.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ChatGTP struggles to solve basic stats problems. I struggle to see how students use this for anything other them meme courses where there are no right answers.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    its easier to just reference books

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    "computers are for nerds. just have the smart guy in my clique do the work"
    This predated software, and will persist beyond software.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure when/if you went to college, but it's been easy to breeze through a degree for ages now. ChatGPT might be more fuel on the fire, but it's been burning for a long time.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work
    nothing. i've handed in five research papers in the last six months that were entirely AI generated and I'm still getting Ds and HDs on my bachelors degree in IoT engineering.
    it's actually baffling that they don't have a counter-ai, especially here at a heavily tech and software focused university. but no, in fact in the JS and python programming courses, programs are evaluated by a simple input-output checker and then quickly glanced over by the lecturer. you could just write "if input is x, echo y" and probably pass

    $46,000 kangaroo bucks for this four year degree btw (not that i ever have to pay it back, thanks HECS)

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get why people are worried about that.
    The only homework that chatGPT can do is "write an essay on X", which is the lowest effort, most bullshit form of homework.
    The ranking of efficient student training is:
    >on site oral exams
    >on site written exams
    >on site ungraded workshops
    >home exam
    >projects
    >home essay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Unless your sole criteria is resilience to cheating, I don't think projects deserve to be that low. Anecdotally, I'd say project work was the single most valuable assessment type for me when it comes to verifying that you've truly absorbed the concepts and skills in question and are able to apply them in a wider context.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        In my experience, student projects have been mostly performative bullshit with more time spent on PR than actually learning anything. Not to mention the whole "group project means half the group does jack shit".
        But I suppose not everyone got the same experience.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Teachers will start to verify the questions against ChatGPT. I was in the high school during the internet boom, and it was easy to just copy stuff from the internet. Then they finally learned to use Google.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You don't even need to do model specific detection. For something long like an essay, statistical methods for AI detection are pretty much foolproof right now. And since LLMs aren't trained to fool teachers, I don't see that changing anytime soon.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The models everyone will use will log queries. School districts will pay the AI companies to match student submissions against pre-existing against AI outputs.

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