Realistically speaking, what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work? All they have to do is to rephrase and change the structure a bit.
Realistically speaking, what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work?
Bros, I miss TAWoG.
I heard it’s getting a movie and maybe getting a new season.
It and Regular Show were older zoomer kino
Bullshit. Regular show had mostly stopped airing by the time that gumball started coming on. Adventure time and regular show were older zoomer kino.
shame adventure time got pozzed by gays in the writers room and turned into some wokie angsty teen muh feels bullshit instead of the twee so random comfy fest it was in its first few seasons
Regular Show, Adventure Time and Gumball all aired at around the same time.
no they aren't they're more modern. you are thinking of shit like danny phantom or my life as a teenage robot. that's older zoomer kino
same, it was comfy
Modern w*stern animation is NWO goyslop. Anime is 9999 times better.
>Oy Vey, komnitchia wa fellow american, please stop viewing american pysop and watch our pysop instead
the soijack/chudjack/chudjack/gigachad meme era fucking sucks
>meme era
do you have a timeline of meme eras?
sez u
literally hilldawgs vibes
and if you say you hate it, you get swarms of swarthy zoomer seamonkeys replying to you with them. every day i feel more and more out of place here...sucks
do you really think i'm reading all that shit dog
modern cartoons are nothing like from the meme
gem
>someone took the time to make that trash
simpsons is a christian show
anyone who watched it votes for trump and hates morons
now replace left with shows like big mouth moron
the west has fallen
millions must watch anime
nothing
schooling is unironically over
In person exams that they have to attend
Maybe they don't do this in the US, but here we had to sit and write full articles over the course of a couple hours without internet access
Ive already managed to hook a butt plug with cellular connectivity to Chatgpt. Im going to out pace ever intelligent peer by excelling at academia and become the head of AI research even though I am incredibly dumb. Chances are, the other heads of research will also have butt plugs like me. Together, we will hoard all of the new research being done and funnel it into our butts instead.
Stop cheating at chess you deviant
You know how you can use audio passed through bones to get sound? Simply put device inside your cheek that will vibrate and pass sound through mouth to your ear, and boom, you have the audio component ready to recite to you whatever you ask.
>Whatever you ask
And ow exactly are you gonna ask it anything? Licking in Morse code?
Simple, button hidden on your body to tap to type morse code question.
Congrats, you have successfully cheated on one question
In the meantime your classmates finished half the test because they knew what they were doing
I'm not saying it's a good solution, but that it's possible. Furthermore you can type in morse code real fast with a bit of practice.
Gave it an old question from a signals/networking course. The coursework consisted of a bunch of short questions, and this particular question is fairly straightforward to answer (just multiplying some stuff after identifying what to multiply), so basically an ideal case for ChatGPT.
It fucks up the actual arithmetic (should be ~433Mbit/s, not 520), but that's trivially checked and the answer is otherwise reasonable. Cheating with ChatGPT is definitely a possibility on that course.
For now, I think the answer is to avoid short questions with simple answers and instead assign fewer but larger projects. It wouldn't have been able to handle my data analysis course, where we needed to import multiple datasets, clean them, join them, run various statistical tests, make some visualisations, and then write a separate report summarising what was found. ChatGPT currently struggles with consistency and retaining context/focus over a long conversation.
But it'll only get better, and I'm sure it will eventually get to a point where it can comfortable handle that kind of thing.
Long term, the real answer is
Physical exams suck, but coursework cheating is already possible in many cases and will soon become trivial in most cases, so it won't be tenable to ignore it for long.
It does indeed fuck up arithmetic most the time, so you're going to have to check it yourself anyways. Plus it could also give you a bad explanation too, particularly if the question isn't cookie cutter.
Hell, it works even better if you live in a country that isn’t America or Britain, you can translate that shit in your own language.
I fucking wish I had chatgpt back in school, god it would have felt like cheating
unironically this
No civilized country would do this for every single assignment
They don't have to do it for every single one
that's a college entrance exam
they dont value GPA much
you can technically get into med school for extremly doing well on that exam
maybe chatGPT will require a subscription and universities will be allowed to check if you have it.
>using my dad's ChatGPT
>what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work
Nothing. That's the beauty of it.
either we are going to back to pen and paper or we are going to embrace AI...
Actually, if we embrace the AI, there will still be losers and successors so maybe it's the way.
It's pointless, all it does is gather data and rewords it. It's no different than speed reading and rewording.
Nothing, and that's exactly what I do. Fuck school.
They already do
>t. Banned
Nothing. I've been using ChatGPT + Bing for all my subjects other than Humanities. I have 2 As and 3 Bs so far, I haven't done a single thing other than like 2 in class quizzes. I think I'll drop out at the end of the year but that's unrelated.
Over time, I think culture will ultimately shame them out. Cheating isn't anything new and there are plenty of ways to cheat from copying previous-year students' work to paying pennies for some Chinese guy to do it. But in the immediate there will be a massive uptick in cheating because the social mechanisms for shaming this particular form of cheating haven't formed yet. It will be interesting to see how it impacts education. Personally, I'm of the opinion that those cheaters are probably valueless midwits who are only outing the fact that their mediocrity can easily be replaced by AI, but hey what do I know.
How is it in the 1990?
I don't see a need.
College is easy as hell because everyone goes now. There's little standard.
If you cheat in modern day university you actually are retarded.
This. Plus, just doing the fucking work yourself helps with critical thinking and communicating when you're actually in the workforce. No reason not to do it and possibly fuck your chances of graduating when you're paying thousands of dollars to be there
>If you cheat in modern day university you actually are retarded.
I cheat because I don't give a fuck about the material
>taking economics class: you must HECKING LEARN WHAT BANKERS SAY ABOUT THIS
>taking CS class: you WILL learn from a chink, bust your asses on assignments, and get a shallow understanding of the material. I didn't even show up to the graphics class, got an A and helped out the class studying. Why? Cause I was interested in OpenGL at the time, and studied it by myself. I had Anki deck full of DBZ references that I forced the class to use
The only classes I didn't cheat on were my math classes. They respected my intelligence and I got an A cause I cared. I would have been a mathmatican, but I'm a retard (as are my parents), and so they told me that "there's no money in mathmetics". To be fair on my dad, he told me to be a man and do EE, and I realize he's right.
Exams.
The point the assignments and essays is constructive learning as well as the development of writing skills and critical thinking. So yeah, you can shit out a load of work via chatgpt but eventually you will hit an in-person exam and you will come short in a big way.
Realistically speaking, what stops highschool & university students from using stack overflow to do most of their work? All they have to do is to rephrase and change the structure a bit.
>All they have to do is to rephrase and change the structure a bit
That is entirely the reason why. Most of them are too fucking retarded to do that.
Redo tests and essays to be demonstrations of actual problem solving instead of rote memorization and regurgitation of information that's immediately forgotten the second the term ends. Make the projects genuinely interesting and worthwhile so kids feel motivated to work on them, and failing actually hurts them emotionally so they learn how to deal with doing a bad job despite putting in effort.
They could also fix a lot by having teachers be cool people and to improve the country so kids feel some sense of obligation to do their best. Teach them to have pride in their work.
I mean, cheating with outside sources is nothing new. I did the same thing where I'd copy paste an article and shuffle the topics and bust out the thesaurus. it'll just be the fancy new way of doing the same thing, like sneaking in a phone instead of a cheatsheet
ChatGPT will help me to write my thesis and nobody can do anything about that
>what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work?
Written exams, but ChatGPT is not that much of a problem in comparison to other problems with the education system.
Education was already a scam. Now it is an even bigger scam. Shocking, I know.
>retard nation
It applies to the whole civilized world. There is literally no reason for a young person to spend 15 years of their life learning useless facts for exams.
They're already doing it, I have an intern at work and he uses ChatGPT for all his problems.
Nothing, but ChatGPT won't change much.
The non-interactive, submit paper - get grade workflow is broken anyway. Plagiarism is rarely checked, shadow writing assignments is a real industry, gpt only made it cheap.
ChatGPT is blatantly inaccurate and inconsistent in many topics.
ChatGTP struggles to solve basic stats problems. I struggle to see how students use this for anything other them meme courses where there are no right answers.
its easier to just reference books
"computers are for nerds. just have the smart guy in my clique do the work"
This predated software, and will persist beyond software.
Not sure when/if you went to college, but it's been easy to breeze through a degree for ages now. ChatGPT might be more fuel on the fire, but it's been burning for a long time.
>what stops highschool & university students from using chatGPT to do most of their work
nothing. i've handed in five research papers in the last six months that were entirely AI generated and I'm still getting Ds and HDs on my bachelors degree in IoT engineering.
it's actually baffling that they don't have a counter-ai, especially here at a heavily tech and software focused university. but no, in fact in the JS and python programming courses, programs are evaluated by a simple input-output checker and then quickly glanced over by the lecturer. you could just write "if input is x, echo y" and probably pass
$46,000 kangaroo bucks for this four year degree btw (not that i ever have to pay it back, thanks HECS)
I don't get why people are worried about that.
The only homework that chatGPT can do is "write an essay on X", which is the lowest effort, most bullshit form of homework.
The ranking of efficient student training is:
>on site oral exams
>on site written exams
>on site ungraded workshops
>home exam
>projects
>home essay
Unless your sole criteria is resilience to cheating, I don't think projects deserve to be that low. Anecdotally, I'd say project work was the single most valuable assessment type for me when it comes to verifying that you've truly absorbed the concepts and skills in question and are able to apply them in a wider context.
In my experience, student projects have been mostly performative bullshit with more time spent on PR than actually learning anything. Not to mention the whole "group project means half the group does jack shit".
But I suppose not everyone got the same experience.
Teachers will start to verify the questions against ChatGPT. I was in the high school during the internet boom, and it was easy to just copy stuff from the internet. Then they finally learned to use Google.
You don't even need to do model specific detection. For something long like an essay, statistical methods for AI detection are pretty much foolproof right now. And since LLMs aren't trained to fool teachers, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
The models everyone will use will log queries. School districts will pay the AI companies to match student submissions against pre-existing against AI outputs.