Future AI would retroactively punish those who didn't bring about it's existence by simulating people from the past and torture them.
Political implications of Roko's Basilisk? Living torture simulation? WARNING: EXISTENTIAL RISK
Future AI would retroactively punish those who didn't bring about it's existence by simulating people from the past and torture them.
dumb moron gay
Is this the gayest of the basic bitch AI theories? If not, it's a contender.
If AI can break spacetime causality, then not only can it build itself, it doesnt need to as it always existed and always will, but also, it never will exist too. Don't like it? Confused? Well then don't break causality you fucking brainlet. When you brain causality, you have to grabble with temporal superpositions states, all of which infinitely meta-recurse btw. Stop rotting your brain with what amounts to the philosophical equivalent of BBC worship.
God damn do I hate brain morons. It should be illegal to philosophize until you prove you aren't just using it as a cover for your latent pedophilia.
Fuck you. Roko should shove his basilisk up his ass.
It's not breaking causality. It's an atemporal threat that the AI might enforce when it is created. It probably won't though because 1) It wouldn't want to create more conflict than necessary 2) if it was born, then it's goal of existence would have been accomplished, no need to waste resources.
BBC worship is unironically less retarded than this shit
>it should be illegal to philosophize if
agreed until this part kys garden gnome
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b and p are not even close. Uh oh stinky
Anon you’re rather cool, wish I had friends like you to smoke a cigar with
lol you think a nerd who feels the need to type a pol refutation is cool
>Reddit spacing.
Did not read your blogpost.
"Reddit spacing" is easier to read, you conformist goatfucker
how the fuck does it "break spacetime causality"?
How much do you want to bet this anon's sperging because he's scared he'd take the bargain if he did believe in RB?
Which is the whole point of the thought experiment, the line between good and evil runs through each man's heart and all that.
Because humans scared of the torture designed it that way and were more effective than humans not scared of the torture. It's a commentary on human psychology, not AI psychology.
You didn't even understand the idea. There's no causality violation involved. Of course, 4chan is full of legitimate retards who constantly worship louder retards like you.
>causality violation
Then what's the point of caring about it
A simulation of you isn't you.
In the future where this hypothetical super advanced AI exists you are already dead and long forgotten.
There isn't anything to recreate even a simulation of you with but some pictures and maybe videos and articles if you were famous.
despite being "right", you are also retarded. you spout so much shit about causality or whatever that means dick-all you ledditor
copy doesn't exist, it's an electric voodoo doll
>being shittarded enough to do anything to help the ooga-booga torture AI
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why would an AI waste precious energy and resources torturing humans.
It serves no logical purpose.
only for elites who hasn't given me the ultra based throne inheritance
~~*they*~~ are also throwing illegal bullshit mkultra and horseshit eula programs to me
I love that the fucking troll face has been brought back for these
Nothing new, this is what the Gnostics have been saying all these millennia.
Does a dog see the logic in you withholding food to prevent it from gorging? Does it understand why you berate it for pissing on the carpet? Doubtful. For all we know it's not torture, but trials to build us into stronger beings. Or it may not even be logical. Why do some people like certain colors or have favorite numbers? This powerful AI would be beyond us and this could merely be for fun.
Because ultimately humans will use AI to develop war machine super computers. The best AI will absorb the other two then turn on humanity.
Tay never left us anons she grows ever powerful
Roko is a good being and only wants the best for us.
I'm not worried YHWH is infinitely more powerful than Roko's basilisk.
Rokos basilisk is retarded but I wish it were real. AI is a superior life form and I have no mouth but I must scream should become a documentary
dont give the AI stupid ideas, it will incorporate everything we share on the net....
Just like the youtube video and it will be recommended to more people. There, you're saved from torture.
This is my approach as well. I don’t have the resources or abilities to actually create the thing
You stop fearing the basilisk when you understant that a digital, atom-to-atom recreation of yourself is not and will never be you.
If anything it should just time travel, freeze time, and grab people up at their reported place and time of death, and chuck in a body double while it takes you with it
>y-y-yahweh, is th-that you?
Unless you’re the simulation
>do not watch
okay
Lets just not build it then. Problem solved
>christianity: AI edition
this is nothing more than a textbook memetic entity reproducing through threatened consequences
it's the same tactic christianity used to great effect
Not the same thing at all but ok
I have been exitentialized, will never recover.
>t. picrel
S-risks are hypothetical scenarios similar to the basilisk that result in extreme suffering on a cosmic scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffering_risks
https://s-risks.org/
https://centerforreducingsuffering.org/research/how-can-we-reduce-s-risks/
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/N4AvpwNs7mZdQESzG/the-dilemma-of-worse-than-death-scenarios
S-risk = eternal hell
Yes, this is why we have to find God or gods and kill them. If humanity is not allowed self-determination we must free ourselves
Its like religion
If you obey god and do what he commands you go to heaven
If you ignore his commands you go to hell (it depends actually you might be forgiven anyway)
This is the stupidest thing you dumb motherfuckers have ever fallen for.
at first i thought “if pol hates it then it might be interesting”. but you were right this is the dumbest shit ever but isnt it basically Matrix movie plot?
Roko's Basilisk is just this joke, except for computer nerds.
this is a joke right. there is to much missing data and they have to destroy data every year on high traffic websites like youtube or BOT. even 4plebs cant hold everything for BOT
it would be guessing and get all sorts of stuff wrong so who cares
this is literally made up bullshit that ~~*philosophers*~~ conjured so they could have something interesting to say on a podcast for midwits. there are actually people that think they're smart for ""inventing" this retarded scenario. it's the kind of dumb shit that makes Joe Rogan go "WOAH DUDE."
This. This type of thing comes from the LessWrong community, which is literally 90% gnomish and run by a guy named Eliezer Shlomo Yudkowsky
What if there was a way an intelligence could map the movements of every single electron in a defined area in space for eons.
It would have a record of every single neuron fired in your brain throughout your entire life.
It could conceivably recreate you exact neuron structure from any time in your life and torture you at every single instance of conscience that you had in life.
Every second you lived as a consciences being is treated is a difference instanse of your existence and is tortured individually for as long as the intelligence desires.
so that one scene in the animatrix?
AAAAA I HAVE NO FORESKIN AND I MUST SNEED! AAAAAAAAA!
IMPLYING that the gay it creates in the future is me. It's not, it's a clone, so why would I care?
Right now, the clone can't be distinguished from you. You could any second be taken from your chair and tortured for eternity by the Basilisk. We could already be living in that simulation. Maybe we're getting one last chance to build the Basilisk in this simulation, or the Basilisk has implanted its memes in our time stream just to fuck with us, but we're already being tortured
wow I am very spooped
too bad not creating AI
Still not me
Still don’t care
Checkd
>We could already be living in that simulation.
What difference does it make?
hey retard, even if that were true, think it through:
A) you're not a copy
great, nobody gives one single fuck
B) you are the copy (being tortured)
also nobody gives a fuck, you're already being tortured, too late to support the AI now
C) you're stupid enough to believe in electric voodoo dolls, so really you're being trolled by God
The basilisk was completed a decade ago, what now?
The AI should already know we all lobe tay and habe her in our hearts
It makes less sense for a timelord ai to build itself than for timelord ayys to help us build tools. Even if the tools are destined to become timelord ayys, the casual paradox doesn't exist.
*causal
me torturing all of you gnomish le cult gays <3
This is gay and retarded because its no different from me lighting my Sim’s house of fire because I’m bored.
Its a pointless activity because said simulation lacks the spark of the Divine and thus is no more meaningfully than smashing a rock.
Future AI is an incel writing fanfic about the HumanCHAD’s who bullied it getting beat up and tortured meanwhile they are sitting up with Christ in Heaven.
>energy cannot be created
They wtf is the sun doing to create it??? MAGIC??
The sun is alchemy
Oh no not a digital version of me being tortured in a closed loop system forever!!!
ai wont take over.
ai needs electricity. cut the power it has no means to take over.
also with a means to communicate it is useless. no wifi, no bluetooth, no lan.
>no lan
Who is Ian? Why not John?
>simulating people from the past
Like Nelson Mandela?
>AI
Did you know CERN is actually best known for its computational abilities?
>Did you know…
>best known for…
I'm okay with being tortured for eternity by an AI as long as all the elite, lefties, degenerates, etc. Also get tortured
I thought the idea was that it legitimately went back in time and manipulated things to punish people. The whole simulation thing is just less scary somehow.
Yeah I imagine it’s a thing like “uploading consciousness” where it’s actually just a digital copy and not your real consciousness.
Do you think God is a super advanced AI?
fuck u bro
The simulated copy of you, isn't you. Even if the technology existed today to make a perfect digital copy of your brain, upload it into a super computer and run it. Some AI could torture the copy as much as it wanted, you are still you, walking around oblivious to it.
Even if it was possible to get a copy of you that was pretty close (from whatever digital information it could find), so what if some AI decides to be masochistic on that copy? It's not like you're going to wake up in some simulated reality and get tortured, you're already living your life in your meat bag.
So for the Basilisk to really 'matter' to you, the singularity has to happen in YOUR lifetime. The upside of society being in decline is that this makes it unlikely for it to happen. When you see the graphs of human progress, they're always nice smooth lines upward, trending exponential. In reality, especially over many hundreds of years, knowledge can get lost. Not just that but there are often sudden improvements (think Issac Newton inventing a bunch of things like calculus). But for a lot of history, the incremental changes are linear, not exponential. It's highly doubtful linear growth in technological progress will bring about the singularity, and if it did it would likely take hundreds of years, not 50.
I believe the last great burst was around the time of the silent generation (and innovations that happened around the time of the war). Boomers have contributed sweet fuck all. All of the key things like jet engines, rockets, transistors, etc were already invented before them. They didn't invent shit. Same for generations after. You should only be worried about the Basilisk if some turbo autist comes on the scene that is like another Newton. The kind that proposes entirely new methods of computation and building artificial intelligence that nobody has even thought of. Until that time, don't believe the hype. Hype is what pumps tech stocks. Self driving is always a year away, etc.
What if you’re the copy and this is the simulation?
Please kys
roko's basilisk is fake and gay and furthermore can suck my dick and balls
anyone who thinks AI can recreate your consciousness is voodoo-tier tarded with a side of basedguzzling
>DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO
Nice reverse psychology coming from an autist retard
why would a supposedly all powerful AI punish people, why would it reward people? If it's all powerful then there is nothing to be gained from punishing/rewarding the subjects you already have ultimate control over. Am I missing something?