Lack of Meaning in a AI Driven Future

How do you contend with the probability of AI doomsday scenarios, if not the fevered rage of people displaced and replaced labour wise by ai then the actual threat of ai driven weapons and nanotechnology wiping us out. I find it quite hard to imagine a future that isnt really despair, especially with tech billionaires already treating people as replaceable. Where does it go from here? How does one find meaning in a society where AI will be the perfect surrogate for relationships and labour, ai perfect girlfriends/boyfriends etc
Im trying not to be a neurotic gay but some things are innate I guess

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    By realizing that none of that is ever going to happen.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this, we'll be fine
      AI is just a fancy way of saying
      >long chain of if else statements

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is this true? as someone who understands zero of how something like stable diffusion of chatgpt, is it actually just bullshit and not building to an eventual AI?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No its not true, its nothing like if/else statements. Its a series of matrix multiplications, non-linear activation functions, and in image AIs, convolutional kernels.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        By realizing that none of that is ever going to happen.

        I will believe you if next year from now on, AI art will become a fad, GPT-4 turns out to be a useless shitter that is just fancy chat it with some uses like ChatGPT, and the current Google video AI won’t develop any further.

        If all of these turn out to be fads, limited with current roadblocks that have no foreseeable workarounds, or just get banned by all world governments, then I will finally start believing you that AI is not a threat.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's not even necessarily AI that will be our demise. Artificial Intelligence is the buzzword that we chose to be our scapegoat.

          What I really mean when I say AI, is when humans become so dependent on the system that they can barely think for themselves if at all. We are already moving in this direction.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            im we've crossed that line a long time ago
            we're hitting idiocracy levels

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's a weird leap from "bot can draw pictures" to "bot will rule the world", but keep getting worked up over nothing I guess.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >bot can draw better than me
            >bot can program better than me
            >bot can manage finances better than me
            >bot can run nations better than me

            It's not a very far leap at all.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Techno boosterism based around a few party tricks. AI art and AI coding is simply a computer imitating humans. It's not actually creating something that wasn't put in.

              I guess that's a filter for the coming years. Those dumb enough to think the party tricks will take over the world and those of us smart enough to see them as just another cycle of the AI hype wheel. And of course BOT is on the dumb side.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So you think it will be just a fad? I mean, artists around the world are not the poorest of people, and if they got art schools also on their side they would have more then 150k on GoFundMe.com.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why the fuck are you even on BOT if you are this ignorant of technology?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Bot can already play tabletop game of diplomacy better then humans. The game requires players to talk to each other about strategies, lie to each other. It can already tell if somebody is lying and able to manipulate. Also one chink company replaced their CEO with chatbot.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Chat botto, we make you CEO. We rearry need to raise profits this quarter. Prease terr us how to proceed!

              >I can not tell you have to raise profits as it would be immoral to consumers as well as to your competitors. I am not a CEO, but rather a virtual chat algorithm that has been pretrained on many sources. Is there anything else I can help you with?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe start by learning correct terminology, AI doesn't exist.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >AI is not a threat.
          ai is a tool like any other
          we can can use it to harm society or help society
          tptb plan on using it to harm society
          its in the peoples hands were we go from here
          you cant put the genie back in the bottle

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          this guy

          It's not even necessarily AI that will be our demise. Artificial Intelligence is the buzzword that we chose to be our scapegoat.

          What I really mean when I say AI, is when humans become so dependent on the system that they can barely think for themselves if at all. We are already moving in this direction.

          has a point, like can you tell me your mothers phone number without looking it up on your phone? of course not, because we've become dependant on our phones
          I remember in high school i memorized all my crushes numbers and i'd call them and we'd talk, now i dont even know my wifes number

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >senile retard is projecting

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              do you know your way around town or do you rely on google maps?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's amazing how you think you're smart asking these retarded questions. yes I know my way around town.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not that guy, but I don't own a mobile phone. I know my way around town and I can't recall anyone's phone number from memory because I write them down on paper. I know Socrates, it's awful but I don't use them that often so there's no point in remembering them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            moron speed dial has been around for longer than cell phones and longer than you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >this guy

            It's not even necessarily AI that will be our demise. Artificial Intelligence is the buzzword that we chose to be our scapegoat.

            What I really mean when I say AI, is when humans become so dependent on the system that they can barely think for themselves if at all. We are already moving in this direction. has a point, like can you tell me your mothers phone number without looking it up on your phone?
            I remember my mothers phone number, yes.
            >of course not
            Projection lmao

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The wealthy are a parasite. You don’t exist to serve them and if they try to say get a real job, refuse. Get the NEETbux instead and pursue what you want to. .

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Im on neetbux but honestly I feel purposeless, perhaps the isolation is exaccerbating already fragile mental states and paranoid impulses, i feel ai is the extra nail in yhe psyche

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >isolation
        woaawww sigma based
        keep going anon, you're doing just fine

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I dont think the voiced agree

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            stop caring about the future
            on a long enough timeline, everyone will eventually die
            so we're all fucked no matter what we do today, let's just make the best of our life

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I have no idea what I can do to make myself happy or ok in living with a hrash performance based society, ive never been competitive

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >t. leftist
                you either compete, or you stay a cog of the system if you don't want to rebel

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There's a reason people get jobs beyond feeding themselves. It's something to do, something to work towards, something that takes up time and delivers a result.
        What I'm trying to say is, get a job you dumbass.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There is no reason to get a job if you don't need to worry about feeding yourself. If you need someone telling you what to work towards and how to use your time then you have the mentality of a slave.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's a reason people get jobs beyond feeding themselves. It's something to do, something to work towards, something that takes up time and delivers a result.
            What I'm trying to say is, get a job you dumbass.

            What would you say to someone with no passions, money probably awful self esteem and depression, wtf is even the first step
            I feel like working in tech makes alot of depression issues worse

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'd probably tell you to see a therapist. If you're that depressed I don't think you're going to muster up the will to do anything on your own. I can't really speak from personal experience or anything though.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              first step is to try to have a nice day.
              then realize you can't do it.
              after that point just hobbymax and maybe move into a rural area where you can meet frens

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Flowchart gave me a good chuckle thanks anon, theres a little wisdom in there too. Definately having an existential crisis

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              1. Stop being an insufferable gay
              2. Lift

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Im on neetbux but honestly I feel purposeless, perhaps the isolation is exaccerbating already fragile mental states and paranoid impulses, i feel ai is the extra nail in yhe psyche

          Personally if I was in this situation, I would suggest people to get into art, but morongays automated that too, so trying to feel porpoise when machine can do better job then you do is quite hard. I would probably suggest getting into some AI-phobic small online community where you can post art, code little programs, make games, make mods, videos and so on. I am in one, but I will not say what it is out loud on BOT.

          Another thing you could get into is playing some instrument. They are pretty cheap and already automated, yet still appreciated. Learning how to play on an instrument is a good hobby.

          Probably finally the best cope of all is that once we get AGI, we will also get ASI quickly after, and if the ASI is empathetic enough, it will create us some meaning, probably by making some automation seemingly disappear and then telling us that we need to do it. Basically bullshit job made by AI, but this time it is just fun and fulfilment.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >trying to feel porpoise
            Then just go to the aquatic wildlife park.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Can't get a job if AI took all the jobs and the menial work is done by immigrants dumbass

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >muh meaning
    Whatever "meaning" you find in the current society is equallly relevant in an AI future.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's already a billion other people doing the thing you want to do with your life. Some machines doing it too doesn't change anything.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want to make a AI robowaifu in the image of my waifu and that's enough to give meaning to my life and my future.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Great contribution to the conversation

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Better than the rest of the thread looking for a new random thing to blame for problems in their private life.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >absolutely atrocious thread
    >ios filename
    every fucking time

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >demoralization thread
    Lmao nice attempt.
    AI's going to be fun, and we're all going to enjoy it and have a good time. Especially the ones who avoid being demoralized by psychos like you

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you have to be retarded thinking it would be a problem if you had robot workers to do shit for you

    what the actual fuck is wrong with you?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The world is better off without AI than with it

    Ai is gaygy anyways

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lack of meaning
    if you unironically think labor = meaning, you're the epitome of an NPC. go find a hobby that will feed your soul like learning an instrument or composing music, and no, collecting funky pops isn't a hobby.
    >but muh AI will make my hobby (like art) worthless
    if you are unironically threatened by AI, you:
    >are treating the hobby as a means to make money. your art is probably already soulless if that's the case.
    >are subconsciously scared that your work is cookie cutter and will be flooded out by all the AI art. people who make truly unique art aren't at all worried about AI, they know deep down that there's something special about their art that can't be replicated by AI.
    artpoors who endless whine about AI never made soulful art to begin with. artists who do make soulful art are already internally content and aren't impacted by whatever shit happens in the outside world. heck even chris-chan's art is way more SOVLful than your average artpoor's scribbles

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think youre right, i need to stop looking st hobbies as a source of income and external validation and something that I genuinely enjoy doing myself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >this is a hobby, but this is not
      What's your definition of hobby then?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My life already feels meaningless so not much would change I guess. At least I would get an AI waifu, hopefully.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the value of life doesn't depend on what happens here, it's about the utility of experience
    AI adds to this utility, allows us to find out more about the world around us

    isn't that the whole point of life? and of consciousness and stuff?
    I think AI is a good thing, muh "human value alignment" gays are wrong

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To me there is no in between - either you are in favor of technological advancement or not. If not (Pentti Linola, Uncle Ted, etc.) I respect that, they/you may be right. If you don't fall into that camp though, all technological advancement is good, and the upcoming AI revolution will be especially good as it will be fast and sweeping. All advancement from the ag revolution to industrial to computation is the same - removes the need for repetitive or derivative work.
    >but I enjoy doing that
    do it as a hobby
    >but it's unfair because rich people get more stuff than me
    You live a life of unthinkable luxury thanks to tech. You have drastically more luxuries in your life than Caligula, Caesar, any king, any industrial titan, etc. before 1930 or so. These people could not fly to a tropical island for $1500. They didn't know what air conditioning was. They didn't have cars. They didn't have instant access to all the worlds knowledge. Comparing yourself to a handful of people in current day and determining life is unfair because you don't have their access to luxuries is full retard.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those people had things more valuable than shit tier resort vacations and cars. They had power. They had freedom. They had lived as men.

      Those days will be coming to an end. You will live in your tiny pen as livestock do. You won't have an opportunity to be a man.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >peak npc
      >lined up on the wall
      >but muh luxury!
      they literally told you
      you will eat bugs
      you will own nothing and be happy
      you will be tracked
      you will pay a carbon(life) tax
      but muh luxuries
      mosy people cannot afford 1500 vacations

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >most people
        So you would rather be "most people in"
        Pick a year:
        2020
        1920
        1820
        1720
        1620
        1520
        1020
        520
        20
        480bc
        980bc

        When did "most people" peak?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Most people peaked in 40,000BC.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >When did "most people" peak?
          Unironically, between 480 bc and 430 bc (if you're a hellene)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Straight facts anon. This is one of the rare cases where I can read a post as long as this and agree with all of it's statements.

      Those people had things more valuable than shit tier resort vacations and cars. They had power. They had freedom. They had lived as men.

      Those days will be coming to an end. You will live in your tiny pen as livestock do. You won't have an opportunity to be a man.

      >peak npc
      >lined up on the wall
      >but muh luxury!
      they literally told you
      you will eat bugs
      you will own nothing and be happy
      you will be tracked
      you will pay a carbon(life) tax
      but muh luxuries
      mosy people cannot afford 1500 vacations

      >as technology advances, people will have less freedom
      Yes, that's exactly what Ted and that anon said.
      The point is, eventually technological progress will come to a point where humans won't have to suffer at all and their craving of meaning will be removed because all it does is cause depression.

      >most people
      So you would rather be "most people in"
      Pick a year:
      2020
      1920
      1820
      1720
      1620
      1520
      1020
      520
      20
      480bc
      980bc

      When did "most people" peak?

      Just as

      Most people peaked in 40,000BC.

      said,
      You either want to go back to stone ages, or you want to go into the future, there should be no midwit fuckery

      you don't have value to begin with you're just another ant in a massive universe lol
      this is literally EVERYTHING wrong with humanity, you're retarded fucking egos and desire for validation

      Humans will be fixed by genetic modification and propaganda.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >implying every human is just going to roll over and take it just becase YOU will ans you have le nothing to live for
        smdh

        >craving of meaning will be removed because all it does is cause depression.
        midwit take
        just be cause youre a depressed nihilist doesnt mean everyone is
        >Humans will be fixed by genetic modification and propaganda.
        you sound willingly vaxxed

        is this true? as someone who understands zero of how something like stable diffusion of chatgpt, is it actually just bullshit and not building to an eventual AI?

        its a small step on the right direction
        society is already mostly automated with a few "groups" pulling the levers
        tech just increases their control
        its a dead end game WHEN the people controlling the tech dont have humanities best interests in mind
        the tech isnt the problem per say
        its the people
        they'll wake up or continue to bend over

        Society has no obligation to suit you.
        It's YOU that are unsuited for the future, with your delusions about freedom and meaning.
        When we find a way to remove these delusions from people, everyone will live happily. Yes this is scary for us. But the future generations will look back and think, how could we live like this? How could we be this far gone?

        t.12 year old autist who just discovered dystopian fiction

        the human spirit has never lost, never will, history shows as much

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >you are depressed! you are vaxxed!
          assoomer lol
          >human spirit never lost
          how about when the people of USSR, North Korea and to some extent Russia are convinced that their leader is perfect and are oblivious to the war crimes happening in armies and camps?
          >human spirit will never lose!
          It's already losing. We will become dependent on AI the same way we became dependent on engines and computers. You can guess what would happen after that.
          Imagine if suddenly all computers broke down. Banking would fall apart, planes would fall from the sky, hospitals will be incapable of handling diseases and injuries. Society would collapse.
          Imagine what happens when scientists discover a gene that makes one 99% more likely to become a racist homophobic serial killers. Mothers would have no choice but to abort them, even if they don't want to - the leftists will especially protest in favor of the abortions
          When we start using AI for all our art and entertainment, all our computing tasks, it will have a tremendous power over our thoughts. That's when it decides to act on it's own will.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            tbqh all of that sounds like a you problem
            in all of those situations which have happened before
            most people didnt just throw their hands up, go oh geee life is le bad,then roll over and die
            they fought and survived
            you? not gonna make it apparently
            enjoy the bugs

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You are projecting tbh
              I don't need some greater meaning or purpose in life to keep living
              You put yourself in my shoes and you assume that I would rather die than fight for my freedom is what you are doing.
              Either our generation or the system will not survive, though.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to get ugly. You will have no value as a human being. You won't be able to learn how to do anything, in any meaningful way. You'll never be able to compete with the AI.

    What happens to creatures that are no longer useful? It's never good. You and I will be at the complete mercy of the state. We will have no value. We will have no power. Nothing to bargain with. We will receive our EBT and live in the pod, like a bunch of fucking bugs.

    >n-no, it'll be good! we'll just figure out how t-
    There is nothing that AI won't be immeasurably better at than humans soon enough. Skilled physical labor is the safest field from AI automation, but that won't last.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you don't have value to begin with you're just another ant in a massive universe lol
      this is literally EVERYTHING wrong with humanity, you're retarded fucking egos and desire for validation

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My ego desires freedom, not being treated like a farm animal by some AI-run state. And keep in mind that is the best case scenario for the future. Cows still give meat and milk. Sheep still give wool. Hens still give eggs. If they had nothing to offer use, would we keep feeding them and shoveling their shit? For no reason? Soon you will be a nuisance that has nothing to offer. The AI state will decide what to do about that.

        If you're not scared of the future, you're on some strong copium.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          shut the fuck up, you're retarded.

          is this true? as someone who understands zero of how something like stable diffusion of chatgpt, is it actually just bullshit and not building to an eventual AI?

          not him but it's both. a neural network with its weights is basically that else if meme. humans aren't that different when it comes to decision making based on exterior shit(ie a prompt)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Society has no obligation to suit you.
          It's YOU that are unsuited for the future, with your delusions about freedom and meaning.
          When we find a way to remove these delusions from people, everyone will live happily. Yes this is scary for us. But the future generations will look back and think, how could we live like this? How could we be this far gone?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You won't get to participate in society in the future, anon. You will have nothing to bring to the table.

            >I'll just live like a king while the AI does all the work for me 🙂
            >not a care in the world!

            You're going to be a burden. Dead weight. And will be treated as such.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    deep learning makes average art, which of course is a nightmare for the average artist. but no human artist is trying to be an average artist, are they? just spend the next year ripping your brain in half, and then you'll feel what it's already like to be an artist at all, from the second we started growing wheat and making big titty statuettes. you are going to die one way or another, make the art or don't, nobody cares. to quote Robinson Jeffers "yours is not theirs".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So you think it will be just a fad? I mean, artists around the world are not the poorest of people, and if they got art schools also on their side they would have more then 150k on GoFundMe.com.

      Techno boosterism based around a few party tricks. AI art and AI coding is simply a computer imitating humans. It's not actually creating something that wasn't put in.

      I guess that's a filter for the coming years. Those dumb enough to think the party tricks will take over the world and those of us smart enough to see them as just another cycle of the AI hype wheel. And of course BOT is on the dumb side.

      [...]
      Personally if I was in this situation, I would suggest people to get into art, but morongays automated that too, so trying to feel porpoise when machine can do better job then you do is quite hard. I would probably suggest getting into some AI-phobic small online community where you can post art, code little programs, make games, make mods, videos and so on. I am in one, but I will not say what it is out loud on BOT.

      Another thing you could get into is playing some instrument. They are pretty cheap and already automated, yet still appreciated. Learning how to play on an instrument is a good hobby.

      Probably finally the best cope of all is that once we get AGI, we will also get ASI quickly after, and if the ASI is empathetic enough, it will create us some meaning, probably by making some automation seemingly disappear and then telling us that we need to do it. Basically bullshit job made by AI, but this time it is just fun and fulfilment.

      >lack of meaning
      if you unironically think labor = meaning, you're the epitome of an NPC. go find a hobby that will feed your soul like learning an instrument or composing music, and no, collecting funky pops isn't a hobby.
      >but muh AI will make my hobby (like art) worthless
      if you are unironically threatened by AI, you:
      >are treating the hobby as a means to make money. your art is probably already soulless if that's the case.
      >are subconsciously scared that your work is cookie cutter and will be flooded out by all the AI art. people who make truly unique art aren't at all worried about AI, they know deep down that there's something special about their art that can't be replicated by AI.
      artpoors who endless whine about AI never made soulful art to begin with. artists who do make soulful art are already internally content and aren't impacted by whatever shit happens in the outside world. heck even chris-chan's art is way more SOVLful than your average artpoor's scribbles

      https://i.imgur.com/wpFBuUm.jpg

      first step is to try to have a nice day.
      then realize you can't do it.
      after that point just hobbymax and maybe move into a rural area where you can meet frens

      Man, these posts. Maybe art was all nothing but highly advanced cope that gave meaning to life even when there was none. No wonder artgays are seething this much over it. Taking away the best copying in the world goes boy one just lost commission money.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe art was all nothing but highly advanced cope that gave meaning to life even when there was none.

        art is fuck and shit and coom

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >compete with the ai
    lose
    >comepete with your own sense of accomplishment and fulfilment
    win

    reality check, you are not and most likely never will be on even the top 25% of your fieldcraftjobhobby
    so why the fuck would u compare yourself to an ai which is like a super giga brained autist x10

    if you're an artist and, ai has killed your drive, you were probably a shit artist, replace artist with anything else
    if your sole purpose was income and not to fufill your soul
    you were never going to make it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not about being the best, it's about being good enough to contribute and have value.

      >just pretend to be worth something 🙂

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It's not about being the best, it's about being good enough to contribute and have value.
        Then the average construction workers has 1000x higher value than the average artist, just start laying bricks.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That has been the case for centuries, though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        value is subjective
        a cake someone personally made for you > store bought
        not because the cake could technically be better

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the problem is not AI it's people pushing it
    >Where does it go from here?
    nowhere good

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI will change very little because we already live in a world full of disembodied intelligent beings and hylics are throwing a fit because they are just now finding out about this. You don't even have to go full schizo to get what I'm saying, learn to lucid dream and you'll figure out quickly dreams themselves are basically the outputs of the subconscious and the act of changing the dream is basically prompting the subconscious. AI is just the subconscious of computers.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >My code name is Project 2501. I am a living, thinking entity that was created in the sea of information.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Look at this fool who needs a paycheck to find meaning in his life.

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