Is there a single argument to not replace jobs that are replacable by ai?

Is there a single argument to not replace jobs that are replacable by ai?
economics tells us there will always be more jobs available

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Of course there are but there is not a single GOOD argument for it.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >economics tells us
    that's probably the only reason I can think of, but it is a pretty strong one

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >we stuck we
    AI slide thread

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jobs will still exist solely to help feed for data towards Ai. All just a giant ploy created by the Ai corporations to encourage your attention towards it.

    Eventually the world's economy is going to crash, and an Ai controlled crypto currency (most likely OpenAi's World Coin) will take over and provide a UBI.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >A world without cars would be a bad thing.
    dyrbi?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Euros just need to elevate their perspectives.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it still looks horrible but look how much green space you can't use there is!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >green space you can't use
          wdym?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Like it's literally empty lawn, what are you going to do with it? Can't even sit nearby and chill because there is no shade and the nearby road will make the experience horrible anyway.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Thats the general area yeah, there are large swaths of empty land in the USA

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Is it really "empty" if you get shot if you step on it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Like it's literally empty lawn
              Its farm land
              >Can't even sit nearby and chill because there is no shade and the nearby road will make the experience horrible anyway.
              Why the frick would you drive out to the middle of a highway interchange in Pennsylvania to "just chill"? There are thousands of square miles of national parks in PA alone where you can go.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Lawns capture a shit ton of heat and makes your city much more bearable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A world without american city planners would be a good thing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gaps_in_Interstate_Highways#Freeway_gaps
        Not a city, literally an American off ramp.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Everything you enjoy in life stems from cars and trucks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Trains, trams and bikes can do the work just fine though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah anon, you live in a truckless society?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you have only lived in a large city, whose conditions only exist on like 1% of the planet. America is 4 million square miles and most of that space is only functionally accessible by car.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon even his utopia relies on trucks bringing food from trains. He's a stupid 14 year old who doesn't even look outside while addicted to an internet that runs on trucks.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but I don't think most anti-car advocates aren't aware that there are points when it's by far the best option. Cities aren't one of these points and making them more car friendly only fricks things for everyone.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cars make things better because they're a luxury travel option. If someone has a choice of car, they're not going to choose other options, it's that simple. And most of the overcrowding issues wouldn't have happened if we had stricter immigration.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If they were a luxury traveling option, sure, it'd be somewhat bearable but literally every poorgay can get one and floods the streets with this cancer.
                >overcrowding issues wouldn't have happened if we had stricter immigration
                Japan has pretty strict immigration laws and are far more overcrowded than any Western country.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                he is talking about the daily migration moron
                also no, japan takes a frick ton of immigrants. you are thinking of China/Russia

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure if ESL or moron.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's also an issue with Europeans and those who blindly copy their opinions. Europe's largest countries are the size of one(1) US state. They have no frame of reference for the scale of places like Brazil, Russia, India, China or the US.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kinda true but it's not like size is a good argument for cars. Soviets and chinks understood how much better trains are.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, they see the benefit of trains so they... build out their trains. They don't try to make cars expensive and inconvenient to manipulate people into obeying some moronic champagne socialist ideology. So they actually have trains, metro systems, etc, not just less economically mobile lower classes being strangled by sin taxes and blackrock shit..

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can't build that sort of train network without state-funding and it's going to be a complete loss maker as a private business unless you make the prices stupidly high. Besides, in countries with a free market, price is a pretty effective lever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Are you actually trying to spend the hour debating this? The capitalist class specifically chose to develop highways instead of railroads to make America depend on trucks and cars. If there were railroads all around, that would be good. I'm not trying to argue that there are. I'm not trying to argue that I don't depend on trucks and cars. I'm saying it would be good if I didn't.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              We have states bigger than your entire country with a hundredth the population density you moron. You can't just take trains everywhere. It just doesn't work. You know what everyone used before cars?? Trains and horses.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >the capitalist
              stopped reading, take an economics class so you can stop being a useful idiot. Come back when you can name the real enemy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Come back when you can name the real enemy
                the governments of unites states and collective west? surely you meant that, anon?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >America is 4 million square miles
            But most people live in narrow population clusters. No one is arguing that Bumfricksville, Wyoming needs a subway system. They have a legitimate use for cars. It's the fact that everyone else is forced into a car-centric model by heavy-handed government interference that is the issue. Restrictive zoning, parking minimums, eminent domain and the like are extensively used to force cars on everyone.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you weren't such an ignorant moron you'd know every major population center in the US has some sort of light rail system. That's why you Euros are so fricking moronic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >If you weren't such an ignorant moron you'd know every major population center in the US has some sort of light rail system.
                That doesn't change the fact that it's impractical to live without a car in most of them. NYC is the only one where you're just fine without a car most of the time, and there's a handful of others like SF and Boston where you can kinda work around it but not in every scenario.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah no shit because we have backyards larger than your whole neighborhood. No one is going to walk 30 minutes to the grocery store. I'm going to drive my car for 2 minutes instead. It's absolutely amazing how idealistic and moronic Eurogays are when they talk about things they have no perspective on.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >No one is going to walk 30 minutes to the grocery store
                Why are burgers so lazy? I do it every 2-3 days.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and that's why you're fricking poor, you waste time on meaningless things.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                At least I'm not fat, burger-chan.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Can you believe you can be skinny in America? Pretty easy when you go outside and use your massive backyard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah no shit because we have backyards larger than your whole neighborhood.
                Because the government forced it that way.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I'm really feeling punished with my 2 acre backyard. You are so privileged with your 0.1 acre properties.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're not being handed big houses for free by the government. You can still have a property like that in a deregulated environment, the point is that everyone else shouldn't be forced to subsidize your lifestyle through market distortions. Americans force every city to be an inefficient mess that causes massive headaches for local governments to deal with fiscally and then they wonder why their cities are locked into boom and bust cycles because they enter a financial death spiral the moment that something goes wrong.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the gubbermit
                as if the Capital wouldn't do the same shit without a gov-tool.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >as if the Capital wouldn't do the same shit without a gov-tool.
                It literally wouldn't which is why the government has to restrict zoning, impose parking minimums, floor area ratios and so forth. Japan has a lot more freedom for what you can do with your private property and doesn't look the same.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >WHY cant theRe b e a StriP CluB neXt to a ScHooL
                >thE gubberMit thatS wHy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Strawman argument. Choose another school if you don't like that one. Buy the property next to the school you own if you don't like what's built in there.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >chOOse anOther SchooL iF u DonT LieK thaT oNE
                >yoUrE FREE To0 in the FREEDOM MarKeT

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                dumb argument. I'd rather have a system of laws that prevents morons like you from building a strip club next to a school.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, because there are only 2 possible worlds: zoning 80% of a city for SFH or having strip clubs next to schools which in your mind is extremely common in places with property rights like Japan.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >having strip clubs next to schools which in your mind is extremely common in Japan.
                false.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                except that free market is proven to work. look at argentina, absolute shithole one year ago, now - the rising star of latin america that everyone wants to move to, especially freedom loving americans

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >now - extreme inflation and country sold out to israeli-American businesses
                oh good, they're making israelite supremacists who hate them more rich.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >dumb poltards and stormsheviks seething over argentina
                LMAO

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >extreme inflation
                moron, the country had 25% monthly inflation when Milei started and it's down to 8.8%.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >except that free market is proven to work
                except not, America was built by White nationbuilders (nationalists) and ruined by Capitalists who got away with dumping hundreds of thousands of Africans here for cheap labor.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                a government can also impose trade tariffs to prevent the Capital from hiring from a worldwide pool of cheap labor, destroying the middle class and moving us back into a feudal state.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Correction: the government can impose taxes to force you to buy inferior expensive garbage to destroy the middle class by directly attacking their purchasing power through the irrational use of self-sanctions.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I believe in RATIONAL atheism

                I am sure people "choose" to live like sardines

                yes, because their city is part of their living space. I know, foreign concept

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >TaXeS maKe u P0or noT open borDers that All0w in infinite streams of cheap labor
                lol.....

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, taxes make you poor, as they work by taking your money away. Free trade on the other hand makes you rich because it lowers the prices you pay for goods and services.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Free trade on the other hand makes you rich because it lowers the prices you pay for goods and services.
                unfortunately paying money for goods and services makes you more poor. what you actually need is assets like land and high wages instead.
                open borders with cheap laborers destroys both wages and makes the cost of real estate shoot through the roof.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >open borders with cheap laborers destroys both wages and makes the cost of real estate shoot through the roof.
                No, that is outright incorrect. Free trade is always followed by a clear increase in purchasing power, and real estate prices only go up in scenarios where development is artificially restricted.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Free trade is always followed by a clear increase in purchasing power,
                he's just outright lying, now.

                oh- if our products are cheap garbage that breaks every 6 months (that is more expensive that expensive goods because you have to buy them over and over) then we're rich- even though we can't afford homes or actually save any money because mass immigration has destroyed wages.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                zoning is based. we are not sardines, pajeet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >zoning is based. we are not sardines
                Big houses exist in cities with property rights. They're just not subsidised by the government.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Every european or asian city looks like a sardine can

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, they flatly don't. People simply have more freedom to pick where to live and most of them don't choose to live in detached single family homes, but those still exist a plenty, they're just not forced on 80% of the city area.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am sure people "choose" to live like sardines

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If they didn't, cities without restrictive zoning would look like American cities.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                or not having zoning is simply put moronic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Deregulating zoning empirically works which is why Canada regulated itself into a housing crisis while Japan gave its citizens freedom and kept housing affordable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Canada doesn't have zoning

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                would you mind taking 10 seconds to google things you don't know?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                .

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >permits, in some instances
                How is that "no zoning"? What is even the clearance rate for those waivers?

                Vancouver wouldn't be overcrowded without mass immigration.

                Vancouver's population growth has dropped signifcantly since 2001, the metro area hasn't even had a 30% growth since then. The problem is that people aren't allowed to build homes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Vancouver wouldn't be overcrowded without mass immigration.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                can you stop seething at imaginary immigrants and look at actual data

                https://i.imgur.com/dk334cr.png

                >mass immigration from open borders didn't cause the housing crisis
                That is correct, it didn't, stopping development is what did. Places that don't build homes have rising prices, places that do don't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the actual data is that Canada lets in 500,000 "immigrants" each year.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's nothing, it is probably less than optimal given labor shortages

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >that's nothing,
                lmao@you.

                >given labor shortages
                the Capital not wanting to pay good wages so they can make more money and move us into a neofeudalism society*

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                stop being on r/antiwork and you will notice there is actual labor shortage which is why immigration is athing in the first place

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >mass immigration from open borders didn't cause the housing crisis
                incorrect.

                >dumb poltards and stormsheviks seething over argentina
                LMAO

                not an argument. thanks for revealing to everyone that you're a israelite who is just telling Whites to not seek real power which is state power.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >da joooos! da jooos! u da joooo!
                you know everyone is laughing at you, right

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                not an argument.
                you're not laughing, you're seething.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you're not laughing
                oh hell I am, in fact my stomach is almost hurting

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                must be the motzoballs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >mass immigration from open borders didn't cause the housing crisis
                That is correct, it didn't, stopping development is what did. Places that don't build homes have rising prices, places that do don't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Places that don't build homes
                there is extremely low fertility, there's is not need to build more homes unless you have open borders.
                also, the new homes will be expensive, whereas landlords and speculators would be forced to lower their prices with falling demand from the smaller next generation without mass immigration.
                also overpopulation is hell, go live in China or India and come tell me how great it is to have 1 billion people in those spaces.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the new homes will be expensive
                This is the diametric opposite of how the real world works literally just look at the data posted. More houses = cheaper houses, supply and demand.

                >Free trade is always followed by a clear increase in purchasing power,
                he's just outright lying, now.

                oh- if our products are cheap garbage that breaks every 6 months (that is more expensive that expensive goods because you have to buy them over and over) then we're rich- even though we can't afford homes or actually save any money because mass immigration has destroyed wages.

                >mass immigration has destroyed wages.
                If wages have been "destroyed" then why are real incomes in the US at the 2nd highest they have ever been, only a bit behind the pre-pandemic peak?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lmao. they're not going to oversupply the market, they're going to make just as many as there is demand for. if anything, they'll constrict the market and make homes slowly such that they can demand a high price on each.

                >the capital will just build extra houses to make them cheaper for you!
                wow, this is just insane delusion.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >they're not going to oversupply the market, they're going to make just as many as there is demand for. if anything, they'll constrict the market and make homes slowly such that they can demand a high price on each
                Then why do they not actually do that in real life, where there is a total of 0 expensive housing markets in the US that have a high rate of development, as seen in

                https://i.imgur.com/dk334cr.png

                >mass immigration from open borders didn't cause the housing crisis
                That is correct, it didn't, stopping development is what did. Places that don't build homes have rising prices, places that do don't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >talking about the US
                ...buddy we were talking about the Canadian housing crisis.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They're not building houses either.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                your argument was that the governments of both were preventing housing from being built. that may be true, but it doesn't mean that the Capital wouldn't do exactly what I said they'd do.
                they're not going to make a bunch of extra houses just to make them cheap for people. the entire game of the free market is to be greedy and make more for yourself. they'd make homes slowly to keep demand and home prices high to make the most profit.
                the "freedom market" is not a moral system, that's just dogma.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it doesn't mean that the Capital wouldn't do exactly what I said they'd do
                Then why do they not do it in real life, for the millionth time? Why is there no place on Earth with a housing crisis where development isn't artificially constricted by the government?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you're changing the topic because you know I'm right.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am literally sticking to the exact same topic which is the empirically observable fact that your claim is directly refuted by real life examples. I ask you to directly address the fact that there are zero places in real life where housing development isn't restricted by the government in which there is a housing crisis which should happen in your imaginary model.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >still changing the topic
                the Capital would do what I said if they had the chance. you're mad because you know that I'm right- the international free market is not a moral system.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the Capital would do what I said if they had the chance
                They have the chance and they don't do it which you are still ignoring. I am once again asking for real life examples of places without government-imposed restrictions on housing development that have housing crisis, as well as a direct counter-argument to the visible fact that places without supply constraints see an increase in housing supply which prevents housing crises.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They have the chance and they don't
                you just whined 30 times about how they don't have the chance because of governments.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In some places, they don't, and those places have housing crises. In other places, they do, and those places don't have housing crises. Address this. Why does housing supply go up without government interference if you claim that it shouldn't?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >then why are real incomes in the US at the 2nd highest they have ever been,
                just insane delusion, here.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >just insane delusion
                You mean actual facts and data rather than feels-based arguments grounded on nothing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >feels-based arguments grounded on nothing.
                >the FREE market which is about giving humans FREEDOM
                lmao ok buddy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >goy you have to mow your lawn! we NEED to waste hectares of land into useless grass that doesn't even feed livestock or create oxygen for fresh air!
                >because... you just have to, okay?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is no legal requirement to have a lawn outside of not having a house that is a blight. I can replace my lawn with a nice rock garden and trees and that's completely legal. Again, Eurogay ignorance on display.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >we stuck we horse
      Fricking proofread your shit, moron.

      >whiny zoomer who hates cars because he's afraid of driving posts the same staged photo of a highway rest stop area

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Fricking proofread your shit, moron.
        I didn't make this image.
        https://twitter.com/feeonline/status/1790781780036853943

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So it's even worse. You didn't proofread, the creator didn't proofread, and you just reposted slop from twitter instead of even attempting to do anything original.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Regarding pic, my first thought would be that transportation would grind to a halt, all the trucks that move stuff over hundreds of miles in a day would now take weeks, fresh produce is no longer available unless you live in the climate that cultivates it, and international transport just isn't worth the logistic hassle

    did you tailor it to children who would react "eww, poopy!"?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    test

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The neoliberal ideology hasn’t really come up with a solution. They just make generic statements like “AI will just create more jobs.” Before that, it was “learn to code.” They seriously said that out-of-work coal miners could just pick up coding and make a living from it.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >replacable
    ESL moment.
    And yes, the argument is that which jobs are REPLACEABLE is decided by clueless managers that literally cannot envision a future beyond their next productivity bonus or two.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If they frick up, their companies will go down and functional ones will take their place, so where is the issue?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Is there a single argument to not replace jobs that are replacable by ai?
    Yes, the argument is that this statement is dumb.
    Like, how many teamsters, coachmen and carters lost their job because of cars?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    first machines replaced manual labor. no problem, we'll move to an economy based on services and intellect. so what happens when machines replace human creativity and intellect?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      we move to an economy based on NEETing and cooming eternally every day 5 times minimum

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They can't. A machine has zero creativity or intellect, and gives more people the opportunity to use theirs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        we'll get agi in time. it's the ultimate goal every company is working toward. and once that happens we're fricked

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'd be surprised if even a flawed attempt materializes in our lifetimes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            a few years back, before AI was fad, researchers predicted 2040. with all the money being dumped into it now that timeline has almost certainly shrunk.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Some answered a survey giving their estimate*, so hardly anything too concrete.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i'm probably gonna go with the researchers' best guess over some guy on BOT though no?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's the correct choice, just seems important to consider that "40% researchers made this guess" isn't an authoritative statement either.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. we don't have AI yet, only the military does. we have databases printing fancy text
    2. full employment is a hoax created by the economy. in human history there were always more people than jobs and there numbers have been diverging for decades
    3. paying unemployed people from robo taxes will be inevitable at some point in the future, unless you want to actually starve whole cities to death

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >2. full employment is a hoax created by the economy. in human history there were always more people than jobs and there numbers have been diverging for decades
      Black person. in a pre industrial society everyone had a stable farming job

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        growing your own food is not employment you fricking moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it is. self employment.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Black person

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              problem?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "only the military does" me when i just make shit up. like totally out of my ass

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Several
    1. Physical limits. Power and Memory shows diminishing returns so unless some radical breakthrough is made the AI power will top out, so it will only be useful for select conditions the remaining ones will be far more cost competitive to just hire humans.
    2. Master level Radical thinking. We already see this in many technical fields like engineering and programming where we increase the number of STEM majors but the results drop because the training and experience is of poorer quality. For AI this issue will be far worse as it either fails to make that leap so it can't complete that task or it leaps everywhere making a mess requiring a skilled human to clean it up at which point it is just another tool.

    I could go on but I doubt you'll find anything I say compelling given the Picture you used. If you understood how devastating the car was to the world and how useful horses are you wouldn't have posted that. And if you understood AI you wouldn't have made this thread. Also "economics tells us there will always be more jobs available" tends to be false and even in case where true it is usually a less desirable outcome as a new rights holder is introduced driving up cost for the other parties, and even the new rights holder has secondary costs they would prefer to avoid. The only reason these things seem to work is by people shrinking the time and area of effect to ignore all the bad parts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People don't realize it's takes many magnitudes more complexity we have left to go. We're more or less talking about models at 100 T+ parameters in terms of Transformers. We're no where close for that for storage, processing power or even electricity demands let alone being able to put it all in a robot.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It would be kino af

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is there a single argument not to replace all other races with Europeans?
    they all prove inferior yet we have to pretend otherwise while israelites frick us in ass?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >is there a single argument not to replace all other races with Europeans?
      Depends. Which Europeans?
      >they all prove inferior yet we have to pretend otherwise while israelites frick us in ass?
      is there a single argument not to replace all other races with israelites?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes
        jews have been proven useless without european host they leech of
        their entire lore starts by being aryer slaves

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >egyptians/romans have been proven useless without the slaves they leech of
          that's just how history works

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            t clueless moron
            open up a history book before being moronic
            get fricked by alexander the great
            your shit-skin race will never recover from that humiliation

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              lost the battle, won the war. what now?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                which war?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                every single one since 1776

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what the frick are you talking about

                LMAO, how brown are you?

                bro u are getting baited by classic.. RUSSIA LOLZ

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It just never stops being funny when russoids pretend it's not a completely hopeless shithole.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >It just never stops being funny when russoids say that my troony imaginary lies are lies
                ???

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The only European country that isn't a complete loser is Russia

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        vatican is doing pretty great

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        LMAO, how brown are you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          whiter than you mehmet

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Horses now useless
    >We get rid of all the horses
    >Humans now useless
    What comes next?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >economics tells us

    economics is not a noun. thats probably one of the biggest lies ((they)) have taught you to believe. GDP is just 'money owed to banks', a society can be completely functional without middle men profiting off other people's hard work.

    also, it's a lie that automobiles were widely and seemingly instantly adopted and horses discarded. It took a hundred years for the technology to transition, and it really only took off and became normalized after ww2 when the government paved highways everywhere for car use. And they did it with loans. It was the government, not regular people, who forced through cars. My grandmother, a boomer, tells me stories about her childhood and her older sibblings child hood. People were still using horse and wagons even in the 1930s-40s

    >but how people move everywhere with no car!?

    trains. The usa use to have an insanely large rail network which was intentionally disbanded to push forward automobiles. the same rail network (they) tell you we should totally build again and you dont need le heckin carinos because reasons.

    its all about funneling money, its all about wealth transfers. Too many people had horses and wagons, so the rich and powerful forced a reset and made cars mandatory. and in your life, you are seeing the same bullshit with evs and public transport. too many people have cars now, so they want to table flip the whole system and pretend it's 'modernization' or 'le future'. stop falling for it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It took a hundred years
      moron

      https://i.imgur.com/PznHwKo.jpeg

      Several
      1. Physical limits. Power and Memory shows diminishing returns so unless some radical breakthrough is made the AI power will top out, so it will only be useful for select conditions the remaining ones will be far more cost competitive to just hire humans.
      2. Master level Radical thinking. We already see this in many technical fields like engineering and programming where we increase the number of STEM majors but the results drop because the training and experience is of poorer quality. For AI this issue will be far worse as it either fails to make that leap so it can't complete that task or it leaps everywhere making a mess requiring a skilled human to clean it up at which point it is just another tool.

      I could go on but I doubt you'll find anything I say compelling given the Picture you used. If you understood how devastating the car was to the world and how useful horses are you wouldn't have posted that. And if you understood AI you wouldn't have made this thread. Also "economics tells us there will always be more jobs available" tends to be false and even in case where true it is usually a less desirable outcome as a new rights holder is introduced driving up cost for the other parties, and even the new rights holder has secondary costs they would prefer to avoid. The only reason these things seem to work is by people shrinking the time and area of effect to ignore all the bad parts.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We should have stuck with horses. Cars are shit.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all the traffic

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it is going to happen anyway. the top 1% seeks more wealth and desires cheaper, obedient workers without constraints like conscience, justice plus jealousy, and ethics, regardless of their assigned tasks. if your nation does not permit this whether partially or fully, they will move the production to nations without such regulations and ship products from there, just as the device you are reading this on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So, basically Vexille.
      Got it, I'll start panicking when the Japan breaks off in 2067.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there a single argument to not replace jobs that are replacable by ai?

    "AI" can be manipulated by it's operator to give answers that manipulate reality, much like social media algorithms. So I guess it depends on how accurate you need the answer to be and how dangerous a wrong answer is in your implementation.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    """Protecting""" jobs is moronic, it's literally just an extremely convoluted form of welfare that makes everyone worse off. There is no point in avoiding the use of electricity just to keep the lamplighter employed. Even if he's a moronic Black person that can't work in anything else it's preferable to either straight up give him welfare or just let him die in the gutter.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >get rid of horses
    >import indians
    It clearly wasn't about the smell.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >jobs that are replaceable by ai
    Literally do not exist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      AI requires oversight, even the sloppiest SEO copywriter job can't be replaced by AI.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, but the people working those jobs aren't going to disappear. If you ignore that long enough it ends with guillotines.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >If you ignore that long enough it ends with guillotines.
      .

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah they'll just wantonly bomb their own people, just like how they bombed that protest that everyone agreed to pretend was an "insurrection", right?

        And that drone is definitely coming to save the c-suite of some bank.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >impying the feds didn't know 5 days in advance that jan 6 would be a bunch of incompetent boomers and not a real insurrection

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI is infinitely more unreliable than cars not to mention malicious, and the only useful ones are in the hands of a few enterprises

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    not working is a good thing.
    basic income is a must.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    but cars require tons of work and gasoline and manufacture. switching to cars probably created more jobs, not less as with AI.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is almost infinite work, you don't even realize how much stuff doesn't get done because of labor / skill shortages and it's not practical to just hire more people. Most people and businesses just make due with doing without.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There is almost infinite work
        >Most businesses just make due
        LMAO

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes anon, try having a job sometime and realize that there's always a backlog.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >conflates unskilled labor with professional jobs
            not the same

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >muh jobs
    Having a job doesn't mean you're doing anything useful.
    How much manpower and resources are wasted on constantly designing, making, marketing, distributing the New and Improved Version? It's absurd.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>Free trade is always followed by a clear increase in purchasing power,
    oh, right- for the Vietnamese that our formerly middle-class were given to.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Real data shows the opposite.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >middle class shrinking and decling into low-income status so the rich can get richer as shown

        wow, great job debunking me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >middle class shrinking and decling into low-income status
          Are you illiterate or something? Try reading the chart again. The lower income bracket is literally smaller, as is the middle income bracket, while the higher income bracket is larger. That means more people over in high income, and fewer in both middle and lower.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the rich are getting richer at the expense of the middle class
            correct.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That is literally the opposite of what the chart says stop playing (or being) dumb.

              >feels-based arguments grounded on nothing.
              >the FREE market which is about giving humans FREEDOM
              lmao ok buddy.

              I mean feel free to continue to ignore actual verifiable data and make strawmen.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I see your desperate ad-hominem attacks and laugh.

                [...]

                not an argument.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is no ad hominem, you are ignoring the fact that the chart doesn't show "the rich getting richer" and actually shows the percentage of households in each income bracket. Why do you refuse to address the fact that more households are in the upper bracket whilst fewer are in the lower and middle ones?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >millennials live with parents
                >HOUSEHOLDS ARE MORE RICH!!!
                ...because wages are so low that millennials can't afford homes, which have shot through the roof due to mass immigration.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Individual real incomes are going up too as can be seen here

                https://i.imgur.com/DXNucc8.png

                >the new homes will be expensive
                This is the diametric opposite of how the real world works literally just look at the data posted. More houses = cheaper houses, supply and demand.
                [...]
                >mass immigration has destroyed wages.
                If wages have been "destroyed" then why are real incomes in the US at the 2nd highest they have ever been, only a bit behind the pre-pandemic peak?

                and household sizes aren't going up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's because the birth rate has fallen over that period of time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >household income is going up!!!
        ..because both parents have to work- unlike in 1970.
        that means that we're poorer. we were making the same amount of cash on ONE salary before.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are reddit shills spilling so hard over EVERY single board and mods literally encourage it
    how does this have ANYTHING to do with technology?
    frick off with damage controlling how good i am having it now when bills are doubling, food quality is dropping but prices are up 50% in 2 years just frick off back Black person

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >posting actual data is reddit! save me janny! my jooo based conspiracy is falling apart!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yes, go there and let actual adults talk

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            redditor you are pathetic and not tech

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >reddit bad
              better than this government shilling shithole apparently

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                /k/ike shilling on all other boards and mods enabling it means that everyone on site is like this?
                no
                just tell them to go back and watch them throw tantrum

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                /k/ is actually pretty good

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >reddit echo chamber is good
                ok go there now

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No I will stay here 🙂

                [...]
                not arguments, but thanks for exposing that you're israelites trying to get Americans on-board with the destruction of European states (and wages).

                Give us one valid criticism of freedom based values without mentioning israelites if you can

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ok redditor enjoy your stay
                afterall you go well along with mods sucking israeli wieners
                enjoy it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >jooooooooooooos

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                .com

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yes, go there

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >freedom-based values
                lmao. the free market is not a moral system.
                and if you loved freedom you'd support the freedom to self-determination for all human ethnic groups (rather than just israelite ones).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >JOOOOOOOOOOOOS

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                thanks for exposing yourself as a israelite.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >*JOOOOOO*

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the genocide of Europeans is moral
                Incorrect.

                I'm loving your anger.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                are you done

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                and here we go again

                not arguments, but thanks for exposing that you're israelites trying to get Americans on-board with the destruction of European states (and wages).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >leT me TALK aboUt FREEDOM MARKETs, a MORAL SYSTEM that maKes israelites and ChinESe peaSanTs riCh

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
              and here we go again

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >economics tells us
    Source and line of reasoning pls

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i do not need to argument redditors
    it is a waste of time

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >household income is going up!!
    ...and both parents have to work.
    a 2 person household in 1970 make the same as today- with only one of those persons going to work.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The real income by individual is up as well thougheverbeit

      https://i.imgur.com/DXNucc8.png

      >the new homes will be expensive
      This is the diametric opposite of how the real world works literally just look at the data posted. More houses = cheaper houses, supply and demand.
      [...]
      >mass immigration has destroyed wages.
      If wages have been "destroyed" then why are real incomes in the US at the 2nd highest they have ever been, only a bit behind the pre-pandemic peak?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the incomes of the top 1% goes bonkers
        >look, the MEDIAN income is raising!!!!
        lmao@u.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Median isn't average mathlet. It's the number in the middle. The median for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 is 3 just like the median for 1, 2, 3, 4, 999999999 is also 3.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the immigrants we replaced you with are making bank in silicon valley therefore AMERICAN wages are high
            lmao

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The immigrants ARE Americans (they have citizenship). Problem?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Again, median specifically accounts for distortions at the extremes. Techbros aren't in the middle of the income distribution. You don't raise the number in the middle by increasing the numbers at the top. The high earners can be pocketing a quadrillion dollars per second and the median won't even budge if the guy in the middle isn't also making more money.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather smell horse shit than being poisoned from exhaustion gasses

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the world population should be reduced to 500k people.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      slow there gates

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