Is it worth it anymore to learn how to code with the raise of open AIs now?

Is it worth it anymore to learn how to code with the raise of open AIs now?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only if you are top 1% genius tier coder. for everyone else its over, unless as a hobby.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How true is this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AI generated code will still have to be checked over, only elite coders will be able to do this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Companies like OpenAI will use aligned AI to solve alignment problem,even elite coders can be replaced

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            BOT is a place where no one codes but act like they are programmers

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hey Amazon is hiring
            not that type of amazon
            i meant in the factory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not, the AI would have to understand the reason the code needs to exist and specify what it needs to do. In my experience just figuring out WHAT my code needs to do is way more work than the actual act of writing it.
        >t. control systems integrator

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I simply don't understand the mindset of people who do hobby coding. Painless maybe, but fun? You'd have to be an obsessed hopeless autistic.
      It's a means to an end, and they are way more fun things you can do, even if you like building things or solving logic puzzles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ngmi

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I code for a living, but with specific data-driven applications. I'm not some webdev codemonkey who would do it for free.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one likes to be a webdev.
            However many like to develop the Linux kernel and shit. Just git gud son...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if you actually enjoy coding for its own sake, it's probably because you are a genetic mistake and you shouldn't reproduce. That's all I'm saying.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is this how you cope at your incompetence? Linus Torvalds is like that and he is more sexually succseful than you ever will be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Linus Torvalds
                who's that?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actual baiting moron have a nice day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you weren't a genetic mistake you wouldn't be here. And it's still better to have "unironically likes Lisp" genes than "would be Pol Pot with a modicum of power" genes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How true is this?

      You realise someone needs to develop that AI, right? You can't just magically throw AI at a problem, you need someone who understands how to gather and process suitable data, build and train a model in tensorflow, and convert the result into something efficient for production.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Training model was automated in data science. There are no more jobs in training ML anymore. Learn about AutoML.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he fell for the AI meme

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i mean you tell me

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, although I expect people are going to need Math/AI credentials to do good in the future

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's over
    Learn to speed clean my bro

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it's over. Have you seen copilot? You can write some words and it will return some code that might work. That's exactly how I program irl. At work my jira tasks have some words on them and I return some code that might work. It's over I'm afraid

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The person who will code the singularity has already been born.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me lo dijo un pajarito

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cuando tenia 6 años vi un pajaro siendo comido por hormigas.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Buen provecho

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Buen provecho

          speak English beaners

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Aprendes español puto
            Silicon Valley startups have begun hiring Mexicans. It's going to continue to become more and more common. Mexicans work harder and take more pride in their work compared to pajeets. Cost less and better timezones. LatAm is the future

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As soon as programming AIs get good enough, companies will start using them in place of most of their human programmers, so if you plan to get hired by a company to work on their code, you may not have much time.
    But if you want to work on your own project, then this is great news, as it will speed up your work and make more ambitious projects a more realistic possibility for you (or your team), your budget, etc.
    I see the industry moving in this direction in the next 10 to 20 years, where hordes of newly jobless programmers and idea guys just flood the market with bullshit little programs and the companies who need programmers for their projects and internal systems will take the top 0.01% (plus a few diversity hires) to program with the help of AIs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      programming will only last for people who are actually good at math

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The most useful general skill you can have is math. If you suck at math, you will never become a good programmer in the first place, period.
        If you're good at it, you will find something else to work on.

        Math is good for some efficient algorithms but that's not all a good program consists off

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it is and it is useful for so much more. Even relatively simple business requirements.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this the state of CS grads, after handing out degrees to any retard who can code and memorize leetcode question patterns, you get retards like this working on large scale projects and unironically telling you math is useless.
          >what are engines
          >what is geometric computing
          >what are simulators
          >what are emulators
          >what are navigation softwares
          >what is medical software
          >what are AIs
          >what is ML
          >what are data intensive applications

          Honestly I can't wait for AIs that can code, this will purge the software community, right now people feel much smarter than they are and spout shit like that and it's the reason why every other engineering fields consider us to be retarded. Once math and physics is reinforced in shit-tier school CS curriculums nature will heal.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nice but I'm not saying math is useless. Math alleviates bottlenecks and provide some surprising features but the math tard conducting the AI has to have other senses apart from just "math".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            are you getting ready for the chainsaw man anime?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Gunt Worshipper

            Image sauce?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most useful general skill you can have is math. If you suck at math, you will never become a good programmer in the first place, period.
    If you're good at it, you will find something else to work on.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meh, the AI can't replace coders yet. Give it another 10 years minimum

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Learn math. that's future proof believe it or not. when you learn math you can actually start thinking straight and solve problems not only in tech but in the whole economy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI can easily replace mAtHmAtIcIaNs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why are people so retarded?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any recommended order to learn math if the intention is programming, anon?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    learn IT/system and data security, AI is really shit on those areas

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Companies are still struggling to get automated testing to work for anything that isn't dirt simple, what makes you think we're anywhere near the point where an AI can write an entire codebase

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People have this odd misconception that AI is some sort of android that comes to sit on your seat and does everything from zero.

      Automation isn't like that. Automation is a chainsaw; it helps an expert getting a job done quicker, meaning less of them are needed for a given task, meaning the demand goes down. That also means the price goes down, which means new projects are now viable where they didn't use to, and supply will meet an equilibrium at some new point.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    proper coding requires general intelligence. all AIs so far are only for special use cases and general AI is still very far away.
    AI will probably only replace braindead webdev and design jobs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just far away doesen't do it justice, we're infinitely far from a general intelligence with our current model of computation. It's provably impossible with _any_ turing machine of infinite speed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's provably impossible with _any_ turing machine of infinite speed
        Another csmoron doesn't know shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Problem is with the word general. You can't have a general algorithm that can consistently answer an arbitrary question correctly.

          You can have a scoped algorithm that can give a satisfying enough answer in it's specific circumstances, but that is no longer general.

          What marketing today tends to call "general" AI is just several single-purpose statistical tools. That doesen't make it any more general, it just answers several questions in those several predefined areas.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For whatever reason when I ask copilot for something, it results in functioning code. Yet when my aunt asks it to do something, it fails 9/10 of the time

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you think you can be replaced with an AI, then maybe you should.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Writing, programming and art are over and are only worth it as hobbies. Go into a trade.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Writing, programming and art are over and are only worth it as hobbies. Go into a trade.
      BOT is the unironically the funniest board, how does it attract so many retards?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cope. AI is the worst it will ever be when it comes to creative fields. It is only going to get exponentially better from here. For trades, there is too much red tape to cut through for them to be replaced anytime soon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >AI is the worst it will ever be when it comes to creative fields
          He thinks AI are developed for creativity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You realize that DALL E 2 Is already out, right?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Code monkeys will be phased out in the coming decades.
    Most of the money will probably go to top coders and managers.
    My recommendation is to learn programming in conjunction with some hard science or math.
    Also becoming a code god will be useful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      The era of the general programmer is over. From now on only domain specialists will rule.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are safe, for now. Most companies will eventually need a smaller team since AI assisted tools will increase the average programmer productivity.

    Get good fast or get ready to become a professional neet.SR28KV

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.
    This future is inevitable simply because you refuse to do anything about it.
    You deserve this.
    A nuclear holocaust is too forgiving for our sins..

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Be the guy who can make sure the AI generated code is doing what it needs to.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    webshit has been automated to hell and back, and there are still more webdev positions than ever
    you need AGI-tier intelligence to turn ambiguous/contradictory/retarded customer requirements into something that works

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw electronics engineering chad
    CSlets sneed.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you need to ask then no, its over for you

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does it know how to use a debugger?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    idk lol. I work in accounting and learn to code as a hobby in my free/company time.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cursed thread

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Test

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If co-pilot and shit are good enough to write production ready code, then there is no reason other pencil pusher jobs can't be immediately replaced by AI as well. So I would expect for things like accounting, risk management, banking, etc., to all be replaced around the same time, and if that happens we're looking at mass layoffs of people who are typically some of the highest wage earners in the country. It would either cripple our economy and throw us into nightmare level depression like we've never seen before, or would force the government to begin some sort of universal income.

    While I think that situation is inevitable, I would like to think that is at least a few decades away. So in the meantime I wouldn't think about it. When the AI replacement happens it's going to be a complete fucking hell ride nobody can prepare for. If it somehow doesn't play out as an apocalyptic fever dream and we all get UBI, then it doesn't matter anyway.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, learn to code or don't. The AI is coming and either way your choices in employment will not matter. Do what you want.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The bullshit you made hunts you back.
    First phase you contributed to open source, that made the pajeets from Pajjetlandia to be equal with the developers from the 1st word, because they start from the same code that is public - so not first word advantage anymore.
    2 phase of stupidity - you contributed to open source providing a lot of code for training the AI. Now with so much code available the machine learning will replace you.
    Conclusion: the developers are the stupidest humans ever born on this earth - they give their work for free to the third word and to machine learning to make possible to replace them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      open source == open death (for developers)
      Our trade should be paid not free for third world (to compete from an equal level) and for training AI (for generating automatic coding).
      The less software is open sourced, the less are the chances that AI will be able to replace the developers from that software niche.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So open source is something like developers digging their own grave. RIP developers

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only if you want to subvert the norm and become 10x that of a regular programmer. IT CAN BE DONE, IT IS POSSIBLE, PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT AND STILL DO IT.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he does it for muh money

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes code your own ai.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_IOS
    Learn to build AIs

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