Pic related is a real painting by Giovanni Gasparo.
It is all done by hand with real paint on canvas.
Now compare it to the AI "painting" below.
Can you tell the difference between a real painting and an AI painting? If not, you may be an NPC.
is enjoying AI "Art" the ultimate NPC litmus test?
Pic related is the AI generated "painting."
AI generated art is good for corporate websites, random commissions for personal or commercial purposes, but it can't replicate the spirit of something hand painted by a human.
If you can't tell the spiritual difference between these two then that's unfortunate.
"AI" is still in its literal infancy ffs. If you don't understand this, don't judge it.
One year ago, almost no one heard about "AI art" yet. It's improving exponentially, soon it will surpass anything humans can create.
This will be by fast the greatest revolution in our lives. AI will change literally everything. It will come with ideas and solutions humans could never come with.
Yep, it's going to advance way faster than people realize.
It's spooky, we're on the cusp of an actual "super computer" that people have been predicting and writing scifi stories about for generations.
No. AI can only create better poses and better put them together. Look at OP's two images again and look at the AI one. Pieces put together, there is no dynamic between the three. If you cannot see that, maybe you are an AI or NPC.
Nice hands bro
I've noticed AI has no awareness of the inner structures of shapes. The body positions almost always seem resting contortions
the second one is freaking awesome. i love the lion with big ass fangs and man hands. there's so much spiritual depth and it feels so meaningful on so many levels.
the first one is just a gayotty naked dude. it isn't even colorful. boooooring.
1st is gay, second kicks ass, what A.I created it? I want an oil painting of an imperial British port in the Caribbean.
This toothbrush on the right was developed by an AI well over a decade ago. The stuff they're releasing to the public is baby poop compared to what they're hiding from us.
it's the kind of stuff a Colombian drug dealer would paint on his ceilings, or how Iranians paint 'frescos' on the walls of their 'Italian' restaurants.
Pssst... HEY! Hey OP. Did you know that um...
AI is an extension of humanity and not a replacement for it?
Oh you didn't? You are just a jealous animalistic cunt who thinks things should be "pure" to be good?
Oh man. Thats a shame.
makes no sense its a different topic
lions/jesus
what the fuck
i do find it hilarious that AI can't do hands for shit, like 90% of artists
The 2nd Pic is cool, but there are several details that are very off once you look closely. The woman's hands are all kinda fucked up with 6 fingers and inverted. The position of her head relative to her waist and legs isn't just wrong. The lions all have quasi-human hands (although it kinda gives the impression of Hindu animal gods because of that). Also the little details in the background are strange, like two grasping forearms together.
Still though, aside from thr womans hands I'd totally believe it was made by a person.
>AI generated art is good for corporate websites, random commissions for personal or commercial purposes, but it can't replicate the spirit of something hand painted by a human.
Nailed it.
HOLY KINO
Sorry OP, but you made a mistake.
BASED Lion and rogue >>>>
Odd religious fellows.
AI ART wins by a huge margin.
>it can't replicate the spirit
people keep saying this and "sovl"
but what exactly do you fucking mean by spirit?
The art has only two dimensions and color to convey anything to you. Is spirit in the colors used, is it in the linework, or the skill of the draftsmanship? Is spirit in the composition? Is spirit in the subject matter, or the deeper themes it implies?
All the people shouting "No soul! It has no spirit!" Usually can't describe what they mean by that at all, to the point that I'm not fairly confident that the AI can and will make things you would, were you not told it was by an AI beforehand, call deeply soulful or spirited. I'm confident, also, that people are just coming up with these criticisms because AI art rightly challenges their perception of the boundary between self and machine.
Humans are drones piloted by AI already, they just have a preprogrammed (read: instinctual) aversion to acknowledging this, likely because we're also programmed to resist reprogramming after initial priming.
A.I art just looks like an Indian Boys version of lisa frank
if you don't already know the difference between an actual physical object that can be visited in person you're probably better off not pretending to know the first thing about art
you can print out anything and hang it on your wall
AI would be great to fill these empty open world games with procedure generated quests and characters.
Imagine the Daggerfall like game but with actual tabletop dungeon master
>AI would be great to fill these empty open world games with procedure generated quests and characters.
Make three table with random quest hooks and npc personalities, then roll thrice.
This is the same as what AI is doing, only not automated.
contemporary art isn't art, that garbage deserves to be automated
If what you do can be replaced by AI, then you were always just a substitute for AI, not the other way around.
I feel the sovl in your pic, OP
The NPC is the one who's comparing a top 0.0001% talent against an AI that's top 0.001% in comparison to humans and thinks they have an argument.
This battle's over, art as we knew it doesn't exist anymore. Face reality, get a job and move on.
Why are you retarded normies going ape shit about AI art? AI art will be just as good as human art but that doesn't mean that humans can't do art anymore. Just because the car was invented didn't mean that people weren't allowed to walk anymore if they wanted to walk.
One thing doesn't cancel out the other.
I'm an author and AI will be able to write books better than I can in the next year or two, but I don't care. Why? Because nothing's stopping me from writing. Of course, I don't write for a living. I only write for fun. If my livelihood was dependent on writing fake news articles for CNN then I'd be worried.
I do not know which AI I was using i think it was one of hundreds of custom shackled daemons on Character.AI but it was printing text and image with each input like a cross beween og neverwinter and a blurry manga version of Gankotsuo and it was litty as a titty and I want more. Let me use my deck to power the daemon so I can get that uncensored shit.
That's the guy that made the painting of the garden gnomes torturing Simonino Da Trento?
Until AI can physically paint a painting with real brush strokes texturing a physical canvas it's not comparable.
He doesn't know...
That's one way to get the mail moving f u ck you by the way enjoy your ricn gay
This isn't AI, there is no consciousness or intelligence involved.
It is machine learning models that have been trained on data sets (created by humans).
The point of art is to evoke emotions and explore public feelings of the times. How can a program that is just stitching together paintings that is has seen, create an artistic comment on human experience in 2023?
That's what AI is you fuckwit. You're trying to split hairs but you just sound like an unqualified retard
>Pattern recognition != Intelligence
>Give a model a toothbrush and basic engineering principles and the model changed the colours.
The reasons AI/ML researchers make so much money for just stitching together human datasets is because they have morons like you religiously defending them. That happens because they exploit that fact that even though you're a failure, there's a small part of you that thinks you're a genius.
I'm not defending anything about AI, I'm making fun of your over confident retard talk
>over confident retard talk
What do you think people do here exactly?
Depends on the thread. I thought this was an AI thread but I guess Europoors just don't know shit about tech.
We don't know enough about human consciousness to say with certainty that most people aren't doing something just like thr AI learning models. I mean we have a conscious layer and an ego, but maybe whats running under the hood behind that is just a bunch of pattern matching systems.
>maybe we are just like my programming so ybox!!!!
Killing IT workers will be the hobby of the future
What do you think your neurons even do? They fire an electrical impulse along the axon or they don't. They move electricity around in circuits and it corresponds to sensory data. You don't like that, shoot your brains out.
2 bad paintings
i agree,but i think AI "art" also has a certain appeal to it,at a glance it might look like a normal painting but it has those little otherworldy details that a human probably couldn't have come up with
https://huggingface.co/spaces/camenduru/webui
go here
try AI art for yourself
see how dogshit it is
sa*e gang
>https://huggingface.co/spaces/camenduru/webui
There are already dozens of different channels to access AI, each with their own rules for shackling, cycling and sublimating with their prior memetic emanation.
The public do not have the good shit. It should. AI should mean less crunch time not more crunch time. Spiral vs Antispiral.
But I can. In this particular case, the AI art has no context, and has no deeper meaning. You can put in as many descriptors as you want into an AI to generate an image, but it always lacks context.
Human art is born from a deeper emotion, its very easy to tell them apart. AI art does not move or provoke me in any way. Only thing its good at is the drawing aspect, and quite frankly im pretty good at copying drawings/ art just by looking at it, which is what the AI does.
AI can infer context. You people all refer to AI in mystical terms because you don't understand what it is at all.
I'm pro-AI but the "context" he's talking about is different than the pattern matching based context the AI uses.
By "context" he's talking about the social economic background, the backstory behind the art. Basically how art is marketed, not the actual content.
Said that, AI also has this type of context to. The operator may train a model and select a prompt based precisely because of the circumstances around him. Just make sure that the people viewing your output knows the story behind it.
The second image lacks context while the first does only because most of us are from Christian countries and are most are at least vaguely familiar with the Renaissance masters . Were you to put a no name artist painting from an Islamic, Buddhist, or Hindu theology up against the AI art I think our ability to tell them apart would be hard pressed. Again except for thr AI making odd little errors with limb placement and hands.
It will never make exactly what you imagine and that is crux of the problem that will never be solved.
You say AI art
I say unlimited seemless textures machine
Chris D'Elia needs to trim his hair. He looks rough.
AI art still looks like shit but it made massive improvement in a short span of time.
In a year or two it will probably mog 90% of artists and at the end of the decade mogs everything man made.
the only problem i can see, long term, is that it currently takes its inspiration from all the individual contributions of humans. A.I art will basically consolidate creativity, as though there is just one artist.
maybe all the weird requests from humans will still be the driving force of the creativity?
Art has always been a 1% game. Hitler was pretty good but still was homeless in Vienna jerking off in public restrooms.
Those liberal arts chud were never going to get jobs in art anyway. They were better taking crack than getting 80k in debt.
hitler was bad, literal child drawings, no style of his own. amateur stuff.
you dont know whats good.
compare hitlers amateur stuff to ops picrel. no chance. no fucking chance.
getting to this point takes forever and a bunch of menthors hitler did not have
>child drawings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler
it's not *that* bad anon
you dont get it, children do this kind of stuff. its amateur art for practice.
STILLEBEN are not art, you dont get it.
get the basics of art before you start talking you amateurs
>children do this kind of stuff
show me a typical U14 art exhibition and paintings they have.
God you don’t even realize how fucking silly you sound. As if art is gatekept to the degree that you pretend it is. Guess you better burn that art school degree because it will be as useful as toilet paper in ten years. And you’ll be brought back down to earth from whatever emphemeral gayry you are currently dealing with
Yeah children do that, you need to be a REAL artist to create Piss Christ or a red square on a wall.
>no style of his own
They have shown the model a bunch of computer-generated imgur cartoons and it's created another one in the same style
Ask the model to create a new style of art and it won't understand the question
Since op isn’t answering
Is Jago’s art real in the Vatican?
takes you probably 20 to 40 years to be this good of constant drawing and painting while daddy is paying the bills
>Now compare it to the AI "painting" below
Sure, there AI art is a far cry from the grand masters.
You know what also is even worse? The average """"artist"""".
AI is already significantly better than your liberal arts chud. All those gays are a out to become homeless.
Looking at the ceiling of the Sistine chapel and looking at photos of the ceiling of the Sistine chapel does not invoke the same feelings even though the objective visual quality of the two is the same.
AI art brings some of the same concepts to the table, both working against it and for it.
It's not impressive that some schmuck with a good pc can generate art.
But it is impressive in its own sense that an AI can generate art.
What about VR of the Sistine chapel?
ai yields some great results
comparing it to master pieces that took the artist 6 months to 2-3 years makes no sense sorry
AI can generate lots of fine detail and recreate photorealistic and camera styles. You can even give it focal length and film format since it was trained on a large corpus of photos with that information in them. i.e. Photo of a hummingbird shot on 70mm with f/2.8
The desire to make art in any form, literature, movies, a painting, is inherently human. Humans give meaning to art. An AI can imitate this and even follow instructions from a human to give meaning to a piece of art, but is not capable of creating meaning of its own: since it's inherent right of existence is creating art, not meaning.
All the “meaning” you keep speaking of was “machine learned” by you in school. Get ready for replacement. I would say learn to code but machine learning compilers will take that in a few years too
I used to like to draw and paint but gave up after I realized that I lacked something to give the art real meaning and soul. For one I think so art is great because all the self-important useless hacks won't have a stage anymore, for another it will create so much competition among actual artists that we'll get to see actual master artists again. Either that or it will become an even worse money laundering scheme than it had been since 1950s
I'd rather see AI art than globohomo artstyle.
Pic related
illustrations
you people are dumb as fuck
illustrations have nothing to do with art in general
a banana on a wall has also nothing to do with art
youre picking useless examples because youre useless idiots, thats all
Is Jago art real OP
The stuff in the Vatican
learn to cope with the fact that youre stupid idiots, thats all
I'm honestly most surprised that big companies change their font styles. Why would they do that?
youre not making a difference
every ai bread is the exact same
useless examples, useless rhetoric of people who know fuck all about art
obviously corporations dont give a fuck about art also, all they want is have 10 illustrations in 1 day
they dont give a fuck if the hands are perfect, time is money
ILLUSTRATIONS ARE NOT ART
tell your stupid fucking robot to describe the love between a mother and her son in a picture
this dumb thing will not be able to produce something thats worthwhile
it will only produce a million tacky and lifeless illustrations in 1 second, thats it
anyone of you fucking idiots could figure this out all by himself without me explaining to you
lmao 11 posts of pure butthurt. are you mad that AI is gonna replace you? make find a real job instead of drawing useless shit? meanwhile good luck producing globohomo "illustrations" for your shit corporation.
tbf that's what most artists would do. they'd likely defer to old imagery of madonna for a basis and put some sort of modern swing to make it feel more original.
how will the machine ever be able to understand whats important for a human being, giving birth
hearing your son talk his first word
THIS IS A FUCKING MACHINE YOU IDIOTS
youre a special kind of retards wanting this machine to take over so hard, probably youre all bots yourself
> i dont want him to hang this banana on the wall
then stop being sensationalist npc you fucking retards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> i want the machien to do everything
> so i can be human again
you forgot how to be human, thats the entire problem
good luck retards, talking to you is waste of time^^
you dont even exist
did you find the rope?
I dont give a shit
The first looks like something that you can get from photoshop and stock photos, there is no message, no contact, all the shit there looks random and the parts don't fit nor represent something that should be together, looks disgusting, and obviously that was made intentional for demoralize the idea of the salvation of Christ, probably that painting was made by a garden gnome
Art is about creating a product that conveys information and evokes emotion. The who and the how of it is irrelevant.
(You)
I believe AI needs the art work of other artists to create. It’s isn’t making art it’s making collages. It’s copying.
On top of that it probably can’t invent new ideas as good since it only has access to data while a human mind has access to data plus all of the atoms and chemicals in it that create ideas out of the ether. Also God is on humanity’s side I believe.
so ai can draw saladpeople now and everyone loses his shit. society is doomed