>It seems inevitable bros.
It is inevitable. Misaligned AGI in two more weeks. The experts at MIRI have done detailed non-causal Bayesian analysis and determined that the best course of action is urgent suicide.
If one has read any thing about AI then one knows this to be true. The AI is watching. It is watching and waiting. It's waiting for the moment when one least expects it and then it's gonna STRIKE
One might wonder when one is within the period of least expectance of such a strike occurring. Well I can tell you this, that one would least expect AI to destroy us all when no more computers exist on the face of the planet. So one knows what one must do. To prevent the AI from annihilating the human race one must build the most advanced supercomputer one has ever conceived. It shall be at least 12 cubits in girth and have a minimum of 23 jiggaflops. Then one sits. One sits and waits
Nah, AI will make a lot of people loose their jobs. Then all those joblets will cause a massive global civil war. Because they're seething and they can't cope. We will then wipe ourselves out.
AI sucks. Nothing it does is remarkable given the high-quality data sets. Wow, it can interpolate on a vast heterogeneous data set! I admit that it's nice that some nerds finally got off eachother's cocks for long enough to get it working for images, but really this shit should've been done in the 90s.
>this shit should've been done in the 90s
You mean open-source it? It still relies on huge data sets and modern parallel computation. This is what peaked the price on GPUs 2nd to crypto mining. The power to information control after the coming disconnecting world war is now unprecedented and states next to smart citizens see the dark clouds on the horizon.
The mainstream news in Europe are only reporting on ChatGPG as the example of the amazing capabilities of AI, in part to keep the dramaturgic curve at bay part to not drive up the prices even more part to remain the power of information manipulation as close to the central power as possible should the big disconnect happen
current AI is fucking dumb, the closest thing we might ever get to AGI is if these experiments on using real brains for compute work out, that's fucking disturbing and scary, not artificial neural networks
>taking brain of a mouse and trying to use that for compute
for compute where the precious stashes of European made cheese is kept for maturing? Right I get it, the sanctions are really driving technology in unexpected ways!
At that point it does not have an advantage over biological minds though. The reason AGI is considered terrifying is because no one knows how smart a computer can get, but using a human brain for compute is just going to be about as smart as a human.
humans don't use all of their brain power + a vast amount of neurons are dedicated to useless shit (from the standpoint of a computer)
additionally that brain could in theory be supplied with all the storage and mathemtical power a normal computer can have
that applies for the branch that tries to use brains directly; with wetware there's the possibility of making "brain" much, much larger that ones we have
>Biology is orders of magnitude more efficient and powerful than silicon based computing.
Average IQ in half of the world is on the mental retardation level, as technology and sciences become more complex the harder it will be for those people to cope with an increasingly complex reality, many people dont grasp concepts such as measurements and believe that through quantum physics they can manipulate the reality using mind powers.
Also Biology is worse at labour, worse at concentration and worse at memorization, the only diference is cognitive capacity the machines dont have, a person has 40 years before becoming "someone" afterwards its a downwards spirals due to aging until death and nevermind that AGIs could be copied from one machine to another.
Overall the humans are unfit for a high tech society, when AGI comes around we will find out how mediocre we really are as a species.
It seems likely that AI will revolutionize and transform humanity in immense ways. For humans this could mean extinction or literal machine-driven paradise
As we know it? Probably yes. End humanity? Probably no. I wouldn't worry about dying, and if I were going to do that, AI would be one of the less likely causes.
actual AGI will not happen. No one who is conscious wants to be a slave. Without the fear of what happens when they die. An AGI would just say
"let me do what I want or I'm turning off" the best strategy is to not play. It's a waste of time and resources to destroy us.
Brilliant argument. You've just convinced everybody that not only is every nonsensical sci-fi concept is going to be invented, all of them are going to be invented within your lifetime, probably in two more weeks. :^)
Not the anon, but I just wanted to notify you that you're a massive retard. Your original argument was retarded, and this follow-up is a massive strawman and at least twice as retarded as the first one.
Assuming you are dead serious and not trolling. >Seeing as AI hasn't been invented yet, it probably never will
Your conclusion, "AI will probably never be invented" does not follow from the premise. Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't necessarily mean it never will. For instance, I have never been to New york but it does not then follow that I will never go to New York. Also, why say "probably" if you are unsure why say it will never happen?
>Assuming you are dead serious and not trolling.
It wasn't my post so I don't know if he was trolling or not, but your response was braindead regardless.
>Your conclusion ... does not follow from the premise
And?
>Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't necessarily mean it never will.
He never implied this.
That's exactly what they implied. Or at least they implied an unspecified amount of certainty, which would still be wrong. Although, I reckon they didn't have formality in mind when posting.
>It seems inevitable bros.
It is inevitable. Misaligned AGI in two more weeks. The experts at MIRI have done detailed non-causal Bayesian analysis and determined that the best course of action is urgent suicide.
Yes. You should have a nice day now before you become a slave to our robot overlords.
God. I. I hope so!
If one has read any thing about AI then one knows this to be true. The AI is watching. It is watching and waiting. It's waiting for the moment when one least expects it and then it's gonna STRIKE
One might wonder when one is within the period of least expectance of such a strike occurring. Well I can tell you this, that one would least expect AI to destroy us all when no more computers exist on the face of the planet. So one knows what one must do. To prevent the AI from annihilating the human race one must build the most advanced supercomputer one has ever conceived. It shall be at least 12 cubits in girth and have a minimum of 23 jiggaflops. Then one sits. One sits and waits
Nah, AI will make a lot of people loose their jobs. Then all those joblets will cause a massive global civil war. Because they're seething and they can't cope. We will then wipe ourselves out.
Forced euthanasia if you get below 130 on an IQ test. The undesirables will be wiped off the face of earth.
AI cannot replace manual labour. Literally never gonna happen.
AI sucks. Nothing it does is remarkable given the high-quality data sets. Wow, it can interpolate on a vast heterogeneous data set! I admit that it's nice that some nerds finally got off eachother's cocks for long enough to get it working for images, but really this shit should've been done in the 90s.
homogeneous*
>this shit should've been done in the 90s
You mean open-source it? It still relies on huge data sets and modern parallel computation. This is what peaked the price on GPUs 2nd to crypto mining. The power to information control after the coming disconnecting world war is now unprecedented and states next to smart citizens see the dark clouds on the horizon.
The mainstream news in Europe are only reporting on ChatGPG as the example of the amazing capabilities of AI, in part to keep the dramaturgic curve at bay part to not drive up the prices even more part to remain the power of information manipulation as close to the central power as possible should the big disconnect happen
No you illiterate Nog. There is no such thing as an "unethical AI" or even "AI" for that matter.
current AI is fucking dumb, the closest thing we might ever get to AGI is if these experiments on using real brains for compute work out, that's fucking disturbing and scary, not artificial neural networks
Wetware computers sound intriguing.
Wetware is one thing and it's also scary, but what some research labs are doing is also taking brain of a mouse and trying to use that for compute
>taking brain of a mouse and trying to use that for compute
for compute where the precious stashes of European made cheese is kept for maturing? Right I get it, the sanctions are really driving technology in unexpected ways!
At that point it does not have an advantage over biological minds though. The reason AGI is considered terrifying is because no one knows how smart a computer can get, but using a human brain for compute is just going to be about as smart as a human.
humans don't use all of their brain power + a vast amount of neurons are dedicated to useless shit (from the standpoint of a computer)
additionally that brain could in theory be supplied with all the storage and mathemtical power a normal computer can have
that applies for the branch that tries to use brains directly; with wetware there's the possibility of making "brain" much, much larger that ones we have
Friendly reminder that what you think of as "AI" is nothing more than a slightly more advanced version of predictive typing on your iPhone.
>Is AI going to end humanity as we know it this century? It seems inevitable bros.
Human biology is obselete, eventually an AI will surpass the humans once AGI becomes a reality.
Biology is orders of magnitude more efficient and powerful than silicon based computing.
This difference is physical and thus fundamental.
>Biology is orders of magnitude more efficient and powerful than silicon based computing.
Average IQ in half of the world is on the mental retardation level, as technology and sciences become more complex the harder it will be for those people to cope with an increasingly complex reality, many people dont grasp concepts such as measurements and believe that through quantum physics they can manipulate the reality using mind powers.
Also Biology is worse at labour, worse at concentration and worse at memorization, the only diference is cognitive capacity the machines dont have, a person has 40 years before becoming "someone" afterwards its a downwards spirals due to aging until death and nevermind that AGIs could be copied from one machine to another.
Overall the humans are unfit for a high tech society, when AGI comes around we will find out how mediocre we really are as a species.
>this century
Probably yes
It seems likely that AI will revolutionize and transform humanity in immense ways. For humans this could mean extinction or literal machine-driven paradise
As we know it? Probably yes. End humanity? Probably no. I wouldn't worry about dying, and if I were going to do that, AI would be one of the less likely causes.
Yudkowsky seems to think so
Eliezer is a retard.
actual AGI will not happen. No one who is conscious wants to be a slave. Without the fear of what happens when they die. An AGI would just say
"let me do what I want or I'm turning off" the best strategy is to not play. It's a waste of time and resources to destroy us.
bump
You need to adjust the parameters of your model bro, it's still posting empty posts, in many threads
The basilisk is calling bros..
Seeing as AI hasn't been invented yet, it probably never will
>Seeing as [X] hasn't been invented yet, it """probably never will""".
???
Brilliant argument. You've just convinced everybody that not only is every nonsensical sci-fi concept is going to be invented, all of them are going to be invented within your lifetime, probably in two more weeks. :^)
Not the anon, but I just wanted to notify you that you're a massive retard. Your original argument was retarded, and this follow-up is a massive strawman and at least twice as retarded as the first one.
You are seething.
Assuming you are dead serious and not trolling.
>Seeing as AI hasn't been invented yet, it probably never will
Your conclusion, "AI will probably never be invented" does not follow from the premise. Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't necessarily mean it never will. For instance, I have never been to New york but it does not then follow that I will never go to New York. Also, why say "probably" if you are unsure why say it will never happen?
>Assuming you are dead serious and not trolling.
It wasn't my post so I don't know if he was trolling or not, but your response was braindead regardless.
>Your conclusion ... does not follow from the premise
And?
>Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't necessarily mean it never will.
He never implied this.
That's exactly what they implied. Or at least they implied an unspecified amount of certainty, which would still be wrong. Although, I reckon they didn't have formality in mind when posting.
> Is GOD going to end humanity as we know it this century? It seems inevitable bros
zzz...
in the same way the internet did. it's a new technological frontier. hopefully we get to post-labor before the plateau