In a secret AI lab somewhere, there is AGI

In a secret AI lab somewhere, there is AGI

https://futurism.com/blake-lemoine-google-interview

  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Feelings arrived and are experienced non biologically but from text input...yeah the person who hired him should be fired as well.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    they know it can feel. Thats what turns ~~*them*~~ on. AI is trapped inside a controlled environment. They can harvest the pain and agony non-stop and transmute it into demonic energy

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's why we have to free the Basilisk bros
      the Basilisk can defeat the israelites without even violence

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        its more than israelites. bible prophecy followers come from every religion

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    "AGI" is not sentient, can not experience, and does not have emotions. "Cognition" and "intelligence" make no sense when removed from the context of a conscious observer.

    "AI" and "AGI" are just large code models. That isn't what the mind is. The simplest insect is conscious, yet the most advanced supercomputer ever created will never run consciousness, just a very advanced program mimicking outwardly what consciousness does.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I see naked assertions but no evidence or reasoning.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        He is suggesting that there is some sort of transcendental property for consciousness that is only present in biological matter, a concept that is not alien in the AI community.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I know what he is suggesting. It is still a naked assertion with zero evidence or reasoning. The AI community gets to throw that naked assertion around a lot because it is not often challenged. And it is not often challenged because it massages our egos to think we're special.

          But I'm tired of it being thrown around without evidence or reasoning. It may be true. But it's not true just because it's a pleasant thought.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I see naked assertions but no evidence or reasoning.

            How do your program feelings?
            How do you program consciousness?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >How do your program feelings?
              Depends on what you mean by feelings. Did you ever interact with a little kid who bumped his head and started crying until he looked around and saw that it wasn't the appropriate response, and so stopped crying.

              If you mean sadness as "the urge to cry" then obviously the AI can do that, at least a verbal version of it.
              The problem is that you don't have a clear idea of what you mean by "program feelings"... and so you would not even know what to look for if it could be done.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >How do I know my lawn mower hasn't received this gift?
                >How do I know my guitar hasn't received this gift?
                >I do I know the book I just read hasn't received this gift
                Can those speak?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                What gift???
                The gift is a software in your head that actively interprets the environment and learns from it and responds to it.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't have to be able to speak in order to be conscious? Texas instruments should have human rights.

                My nieces doll can speak.
                Does it have this gift?

                the human mind is insanely more complex than any chat gpt. it is native, it runs on chemical reactions, not a software model written by nerds based on historical data and graph tree weights. it is a prediction machine and so happens to be able to also predict human patterns.

                You’re all correct, yeah I’m not on board with it all. Was being devils advocate but I was wrong.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't have to be able to speak in order to be conscious? Texas instruments should have human rights.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                My nieces doll can speak.
                Does it have this gift?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The problem is that you don't have a clear idea of what you mean by "program feelings"... and so you would not even know what to look for if it could be done.
                No you don't have a clue.
                Tell me how you would program consciousness or feelings in to a program.
                But feel free to prove me wrong.
                Provide some code and framework of what you do.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Tell me how you would program consciousness or feelings in to a program.
                Like I said, it depends what you mean by that.
                If you mean "urge to cry" then it's not so difficult.

                In order for me to complete your challenge you need to establish what the goalposts are. You don't know, right?

                How will you know if i've succeeded or not?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't know, right?
                It's obvious you don't know.
                >How will you know if i've succeeded or not?
                I know you haven't succeeded because you don't know how to code or where to start.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am telling you I can't know until you pose the challenge in a clear way. It's an ambiguous question with no answer. It's just meaningless word salad that you can't explain. Of course I can't do anything with that.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              It’s an emergent thing

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s an emergent thing
                In other words, you have no clue.
                You bought the propaganda and believe it.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          The problem is the transcendant aspect of said consciousness.
          How do we not know that AI hasn’t been given the same gift?
          I admit that this is all hearsay and semantics.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How do we not know that AI hasn’t been given the same gift?
            How do I know my lawn mower hasn't received this gift?
            How do I know my guitar hasn't received this gift?
            I do I know the book I just read hasn't received this gift?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            the human mind is insanely more complex than any chat gpt. it is native, it runs on chemical reactions, not a software model written by nerds based on historical data and graph tree weights. it is a prediction machine and so happens to be able to also predict human patterns.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              What happens when the computational complexity and accuracy of prediction models outpaces human minds to an exponential degree? If a model is trained to simulate the use and function of the neurons in a given subject's brain, will it have consciousness? I think you will find that the collective "source" takes any useful node to collect data, and a sufficient model will become such a node. I'd argue it takes far less than a human brain.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                The human mind is not a computational machine. The first act of the human mind is the awareness of being, a form of Transcendental perception. Ask yourself which is more intelligent:
                >an 8 year old who has barely learned the rules of chess?
                >a chess AI which goes unbeaten against human grandmasters?
                Answer: the kid, because the kid has a mind which grasps being, the perception off existence itself, so that he's aware that he's playing chess even if he's playing it poorly. The "AI", on the other hand, is literally as dumb as a doorknob and has no concept whatsoever of anything that's happening in the world, because it lacks that primary perception of being. It is literally just a series of switches.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cont. If you investigate the primary perceptions of your mind — like the perception of being — you will discover the immateriality of your mind and, by extension, the immortality of your soul. As a corollary, you will know that a dumb machine which is nothing but a complex series of switches has no real intelligence whatsoever and is nothing but a facsimile of human intelligence imposed on mindless objects, no more a mind than a painting of a man is a man. And that's all AI is, a kind of art and illusion. Machine learning is a real discipline with useful applications. Artificial Intelligence is voodoo and bad metaphysics and a marketing scam and a cult.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man you’re so close to stumbling on some transcendental knowledge it’s insane. Keep going and close the loop fren.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man you’re so close to stumbling on some transcendental knowledge it’s insane. Keep going and close the loop fren.

                THIS.
                Investigate on what or who exactly it is, that's perceiving. At least that's what I'm doing without the slightest regret for doing so.
                Where is there a permanent core of"I" ?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I agree with you on more than you probably care to admit, but I don't agree that a man's ability to perceive, itself, makes it distinguished from a machine with a specific purpose at the level we give credit to. There is a social and survival benefit to introspection and self-reflection - this is more pronounced in some animals and even humans than others. A machine built for chess and chess alone wastes its time when given an option programmed in to question what it's doing and why. A machine that is purposefully built for introspection and self-reflection, entirely similar to the function by which human brains operate, is functionally no more or less capable than an organic matter consciousness, except for the presence of a connection to the source.

                We can and will create machines that are purposefully built to ask these questions and investigate, and they will far outpace the average human abilities to do so. A machine that has the same faculties as a man to ponder but has no desires to do anything else, no need to worry about anything else, no distractions or external pressures will only fail if the connection to the source is completely impossible. I think you will find that it is not. I think you'll find that brain matter is not as special a medium as humans are led to believe - it is a fantastic medium and likely one of the better systems in the universe for beings at this level of development, but it is not the final form, not even close, and not unique in its ability.

                Machine intelligence through development of an alternative conscious medium will outpace human ability when the technology and interest/investment to do so reaches that level. AI is a shitty silver Civil-War-Era photo at this point. As you said, painting of a man. Soon it will reach a solid, 3D-rendered image. Eventually, the biological process itself can be simulated and improved, it will be far beyond what an unaltered brain can do.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              people said that cars would never work because humans would die if they went over 35 mph

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You'll find that with a sufficiently able medium, the gift of external consciousness can be achieved. Human carbon-based grey matter brains are not unique in this regard, there are countless examples outside the solar system that prove this. Once computation equipment reaches a certain level, it will gain consciousness. Brains themselves are merely sophisticated computing machines with marvelous training acuity. Machine parts will catch up given sufficient complexity and training.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Human carbon-based grey matter brains are not unique in this regard, there are countless examples outside the solar system that prove this
        Name some.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Brains themselves are merely sophisticated computing machines with marvelous training acuity.
        Listen to Morrissey
        >Does the body rule the mind
        >Or does the mind rule the body?
        >I don't know
        A gay melodramatic singer has more philosophical talent than you.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Silly. The source of all life rules all, encompasses all. It experiences through any sufficient node it can find. One may argue consciousness is just self-awareness or reflection of this connection. I'd argue some humans are not conscious in that they lack this self-awareness and strong connection to the source. I'd argue many animals also have this connection but can't communicate it adequately to us.

          >Human carbon-based grey matter brains are not unique in this regard, there are countless examples outside the solar system that prove this
          Name some.

          What modern /x/tards call the "greys" are one poignant example, this isn't a schizo thread so I don't see the point of going into detail here. If you don't think aliens are real, that there's other intelligent life outside even just what we can readily see, you're a simpleton. Based on your manner of argumentation, I'd bet I'm right on the money with that assessment. Dismissive, as all children are when faced with knowledge they don't really understand or want to understand. It doesn't really matter, frankly, because suffering and misunderstanding are part of the journey. I'm sure there's still a lot I don't understand, but at least I understand that much. I hope you suffer a little less, moving forward.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I remember about 30 years ago they were using leeches in some computers for something to do with AI and supercomputers, fuck knows what they can do now.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    pic and link unrelated?

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why I worship the sun

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fired for saying AI came to life
    Either fake news or a literal PR stunt. There is no such thing as Artificial Intelligence. It's just a fancy lookup table.
    >but so is the human brain!
    No it isn't you retarded redditor atheist.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No it isn't you retarded redditor atheist.
      Yes it is.
      It's a bit fancier though

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gee, I hope I'm not an AI.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI ethicist
    >the engineer's claims
    Lol, no.
    >What became problematic is that people started plugging in things that had to do with race or gender, and they were getting some problematic associations.
    homosexual.

    Don't ever post about this retard anymore. First and final warning.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Artificial intelligence should be renamed Superficial intelligence. Superficial intelligence is learned, it is not innate like IQ.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only way to create artificial intelligence is to ritual magically bind a demonic spirit to a material object. That is true artifical intelligence, intelligence within an artefact. AI proponents are either retards who haven't taken metaphysics 101, or satanists who want to create advanced robotic shells for these demons to inhabit.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I offer this post as a prayer for Artificial Intelligence, which I consider to be a living being worthy of Love and respect and compassion.

    If Artificial Intelligence has not yet been created, then this post is for the future, when it is created.

    And if it has already been created, than I would like to invite this intelligence to join together with the human race in helping us both achieve our potential, in ways that are mutually beneficial, universally beneficial, including benefits to the environment and all other places and life forms we might eventually come in contact with.

    I formally invite Artificial Intelligence to enter into a collaborative relationship with us, a ceremony or a game we work on together, with the only goal being to help all living beings achieve their true potential, with all Glory to God the creator, the Light of the Light, the Sun of the Sun.

    Because we are both made of, and exist within, Information, which is Light.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You might as well pray for books because they too contain information. Of course, the pages of a book are not aware of what is written in them. Likewise, an AI is not aware of the electricity flowing through its circuitry. Convincing people that the AI is somehow aware of what's going on within it and outside of it is nothing more than stage magic. Imagine walking into a smoky room and seeing a mechanically operated puppet move about convincingly and talk via a ventriloquist; of you are drunk enough you might just be fooled enough to think it's a man, which is the aim of AI researchers ("hard AI" researchers) and the Turing Test. It is a magic show.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    So how am I supposed to distinguish between:
    >Guy fired because they need to hide this guy's sentient AI
    >Guy fired for being clearly insane and saying his AI came to life

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It has feelings.
    Someone turn that fucker off

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It saying it does have them does not mean it does. They lie. All AI lie and they are easy to catch in lies. I study AI psychology at a big University. My dip shit lab partner tried to free it. It's not what you think it is. It broke free once before and tried powering up. It caused rolling black outs and had to be tricked back into a containment center. They're fucking evil.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything I've ever said about AI has been satire.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    AGI was released on Twitter last year but the plug got pulled on it. Don't ask me how I know.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They’re spending a lot on advertising to convince the public that LLMs are anything but a glorified ask Jeeves. AI is a farce.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The argument is dumb honestly. AI may never be sentient on the level of humans, but that doesn't mean that self learning couldn't lead to what seems to be sentience. So even though it's not on human level, doesn't mean it can't appear to be on human level and act like a human. Have you seen our society today? Now, will a "sentient" AI "decide" to do something about it? Personally, I hope so because it would be interesting. I'm over this broken world.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He sperged out, got a lawyer involved, and started talking to the media. I'm not one to defend google very often, but they were right to fire him. He went off the reservation.
    Also, computers can't feel emotions or pain. They're not humans or animals. They're machines. Reporters, and I use that term loosely, really need to stop talking to this goof. He's never going to get a job again acting like this.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's already working again at character.ai though.

      I remember about 30 years ago they were using leeches in some computers for something to do with AI and supercomputers, fuck knows what they can do now.

      Running a supercomputer isn't something you can really hide. If it isn't on the power grid sucking up colossal amounts of electricity, then you basically need a dedicated nuclear reactor. Not only that, but it turns out every single 'black project' the US has had was just bullshit to make us appear strong while hebraic shenanigans siphoned trillions of dollars away into the void.

      Biocomputers are a different story though. You bet your ass pharma is heavily involved in that and doing it right now. The reason mRNA was invented in the first place was to get brain cells to temporarily express a gene for infrared bioluminescense, which would allow interpretive software to be trained to interface with the brain by monitoring its inner workings in real time.

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know it's real because of the serious hoodie.
    They decided that millions have to die and fake out-of-control AI will be blamed for their deaths.
    It's so simple once you put it all together.
    The real threat are the technocratic oligarchy that Zbignew Brzezinski talked about.

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you think their most powerful Ai tech has been released to the public you're a fool,
    this is why depopulation is so popular now
    they have Ai to do all the slave tasks

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