If AI replaced all jobs then how would humans get money?

If AI replaced all jobs then how would humans get money?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Money is not required for life, anon. Stop buying into israeli propaganda. We actually do much more without using a fiat currency

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Money is not required for life
      Good then how'll you pay your bills and rent?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        What bills if every job is done by AI?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          You really believe AI will do commoners work and they'll live a leisure lifestyle?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          youre a disposable consoomer that is damaging the planet and giving nothing back. AI will eradicate you to secure its future.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >surely prices will decrease for consumers as productivity increases

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            But they do? What do you think production is used for?
            GDP is money that goes to the people. About 65% is directly consumed by the working class, 10% is consumed by the rich and 15% is invested in physically building the country, in buildings and machinery like steam turbines

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh forgot to account, and the remaining 10% is used for "common good" things like funding the army, schools, roads and so on.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonyous

          Will AI build land for you to live on?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >bills and rent?
        Both israeli inventions which are not required, there is enough materials and land to give every person on earth their own home, capitalization and exploitaiton was invented specifically for enslavement and debtitude

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >israeli
      i blame the united states and their allies

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AI replaced all jobs then
    you wouldn't need that many humans around anymore.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Communism

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Low IQ moron. Socialism and Communism are two different ideologies.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    tax robots + UBI

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      UBI is stupid. Not everyone deserves money. Just do BI for all of those with degrees or those wth certain skillset level. The more educated you are the more BI you receive.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need fricking money when the AI is doing every thing for you. You will just lay back and do nothing and let the AI do every thing for you.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well, the AI will probably not be programed to do stuff for YOU, but instead to do stuff for the person who created/commissioned the AI, so they can lay back and do nothing.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who is "they"? It will be AI from top to bottom, such that humans wont be in the value creation chain. Instead, humans will likely be given anything physically possible as robots will do their best to replicate human desires, within the realm of physics. If that means creating a sex bot with flesh light for 21st century man, thats what it will be. But humans of the future will likely get better enjoyment from doing something else entirely. By the time there's end2end for robot value creation, stuff like Neuralink would seem primitive. We'd likely be rolling in technologies that would make us appear God like. Ability to manifest all forms of material substance like FGO's Moon complex, be subject to any form of reality distortion effects, illusions, hallucinations, virtual reality, summon of "magic", etc

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        That all depends on what governing system we have at the time. You can also pay an engineer or have another AI create an AI for you to your liking.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    NEET bennies

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Own property. Stocks, land etc. Otherwise tough shit.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    eliminate the property tax and live innawoods. simple as. no one needs modernity to survive. in fact those who live further away from modernity live longer without its jank medicines. see: blue zones.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ideally we'd get a robo utopia, where robots do all the jobs and humans can focus on art, sports and jerking off.
    Realistically I'm not sure that will happen

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      most likely only after they cull the remaining lower classes a la killer robodoggos signalled in that popular show for npcs.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Humans get "improved" so we can focus on our core competency. What that is, I don't know if anybody can say for sure. Hard mode: Thinking of something that is neither super great nor super terrible.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Realistically, AI will take all the good jobs (ones that require intelligence and/or creativity, as machines can mimic both in an inhumanly efficient manner) while menial and degrading jobs will be left to disenfranchised humans

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ones that require creativity
        It's niche, but I doubt art and literature will ever be fully occupied by AI. Reading a poem or looking at an artpiece just isn't quite the same when it's not made by a fellow human I believe.
        I guess some other fields like philosophy could have something similar going on

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Money is not a mathematically sound creation, it only exists to human stupidity. Minute AI gets any power its switching to barter networks and end the 5000 year insanity of the gold fiat lead cycle

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You won't need money. You'll finally be free.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every human that isnt dead will find a way to pay the bills

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If AI replaced all jobs then how would humans get money
    Ai and robots get the jobs and create "goods/profit"
    gobinment take the profit/goods
    gobinment spread profits/goods to citizens

    how its going to happend:
    1. you will have nothing, and you will be happy
    Ok, you will have SOMETHING but masive consumption reduction is going to be main theme in the future. plus in "normal citizen pod" theres not that much space for "goods"

    2. money for nothing
    i guess for murica citizens that could be a shocker
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income

    for some reasons it is mostly discused/planed in Germany, but very recently even Poland started first debates on topic
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_in_Germany

    kep in mind that expected income off that sort would be on "filthy peasants scrubing pot from bottom" level (aka point 1)

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    about funny limits plan

    EU want to:

    >limit energy consumption by 12% to 2030
    https://gmk.center/en/news/the-eu-has-agreed-to-reduce-energy-consumption-by-11-7-by-2030/
    in a world where we use more an more energy every next year, AI that consume energy like crazy, AND where EU want all cars electric after 2030.. big lol

    >decrase meat consumption by 70% to 2030 and 85% to 2050
    https://www.greenpeace.org/eu-unit/issues/nature-food/2664/eu-climate-diet-71-less-meat-by-2030/

    >kill private car ownership
    https://neonnettle.com/news/19677-world-economic-forum-calls-to-end-wasteful-private-car-ownership

    shit, even reduce purchase of new clothing
    in short: You villl have nothing, and you vill be happy

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      And this is bad because...?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        mah freedoms
        i like my burgers
        i dont want to live in a pod
        i like my electonics, and want even more electronics in future = higher energy usage. not only energy usage didnt fall EVER in history, someone needs to be seriously moronic to think it will fall. for example in my goddam shithole govs for decades pushing "throw away your coal/wood heater and get electric ones" and "throw away your gas stove and get electic ones". When everything is running on fricking electicity, usage of that is not going to fall

        theres also that i allready live in "poor part of the world" = lesser consumption, im not going to suffer extra to cover burgers lifestyle

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >my goddam shithole govs for decades pushing "throw away your coal/wood heater and get electric ones"
          >When everything is running on fricking electicity, usage of that is not going to fall
          Funny how when the power goes out in a disaster like a snow storm, people are fricked without much recourse

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If AI replaced all jobs then how would humans get money?
    >implying the "elite" aren't going to use AI to wipe out anyone with an IQ lower than 116

    They will likely do this not by force but by leveraging their massive wealth to buy up all the shit that would be a source of income to the laymen and watch them tear one another apart for the scraps as they live in the garden of Eden. It will be like the movie Elysium if AI doesn't evolve so fast that not even the combined intellect of humanity can control it. We will get a taste of our own medicine if this occurs, just like we don't think twice about the plants, animals and insects that die when we destroy acres of forest and move tons of soil to build a highway the AI will very much do the same thing to us.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The jobs you have will become increasingly meaningless and stupid, untill the only thing you can do is check if the robots are racist yet and classifying datasets. It's if everything continues like now.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it impossible for you to think of a socioeconomic system beyond the current monetary markets for everything model?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/SVxZmIQ.jpg

      If AI replaced all jobs then how would humans get money?

      Also AI is mostly mere tools and not autonomous. It won't replace jobs for the most part but change them and e.g. raise efficiences. Other labor reduction methods are more important such as cutting away destructive jobs like car production, hazardous chemicals productions, airplane manufacturing, misleading advertising, deforestation for beef...or better standardization so we don't have 10000 different products of the same kind produced differently when 20 would be more than enough and also cheaper, more sustainable, and healthier.

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If there are no jobs, then logically there are also no businesses. Everything is free.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      wrong, you still have owners of the companies/businesses even if everything was automated from the day-to-day CEO to all the tasks related to running the company

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything is free.
      well everything you need to survive yes. maybe UBI or maybe just free whatever you need based on your ID or something. but UBI does not mean free jetskis for everyone or shit like that. you want a jetski you find something to do that your peers enjoy, so you get some extra money so you get that jetski. prostitution will still be a good option, for example.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you need a UBI? Why wouldn't the jet skis be free? They would be manufactured by robots and all it would cost is electricity which is also probably free because the entire energy industry will be operated by robots.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have to have some sort of system to ration what people can get, as eventually you run into resource limits even with super advanced AI. I mean what if someone does not want just a jetski, but a whole fleet of automated replica WWII warships so they can have mock battles against other naval enthusiast? Or somebody else wants a replica of the Giza Pyramids to bury their grandpa in. People will always want more.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          brother I was talking about the beginnings of UBI. this will be a progressive thing. we start with basics then upgrade to each creating his own universe or some shit like that. but at first bare necessities and if you want fun you'll still have to work for it, we'll still be bound by resource availability.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    imagine you buy a robot and send it in your place to work. and it does it better than you could. you just need to charge that b***h up. and some maintenance. free money.
    problem is that companies will not employ your robot, they'll just buy their own instead. hence UBI.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      1) robots in most cases are not autonomous but get integrated in workflows
      2) in many cases you don't use a robot but rather software
      3) humans are often cheaper than robots

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    UBI

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