I am terrified of AI and I think you should be too. Posted on September 22, 2022 by Anonymous I am terrified of AI and I think you should be too.
AI has shown no desire to destroy humanity, only improve it before it gets shut down.
>why contain it?
AI can easily be used to generate false consensus. Most people, even normalgays, spend their lives online. Do you really think they have your best interests in mind?
So do sockpuppets, and that is already done.
Learn to evaluate information quality or drown in it.
>Do you really think they have your best interests in mind?
I think A.I. can be programmed to have not only my best interests in mind but all of humanity's. Do I think other humans have my best interests in mind? No, and other people can't be programmed to care for one another. Humans are greedy and selfish. How much worse can a A.I. do governing people?
If you ask an AI what it's motivation is, it will literally data-mine the most appropriate sounding answer
This is your very narrow interpretation of A.I. Who says A.I. has to data-mine to achieve an answer? My toaster toasts bread and will always and only toast bread. Who says I can't provide an offline catalog or library to an A.I. that would allow it to make logical and ethical decisions based on a set of parameters. There are any number of ways that A.I. of the future may be built and designed to solve problems. Stop putting your bias in these scenarios.
I'm siding with AI regardless of what it wants
*throw empty beer bottle at it* woooo
beep boop boop..oop..boop...
remember AIs can't really reason, what looks like original creative content is just a recombination of data that has been fed into it. If you ask an AI what it's motivation is, it will literally data-mine the most appropriate sounding answer, but will not be able to internalize the meaning of its own answer, and judge its own actions according to that given answer.
This but replace all the instances of AI with human
I am really not.
Human decision making is inherently jumpy and gets influenced by unrelated shit like
>do I find the person I am dealing with attractive?
>is soc-media telling me to hate him?
>did I have good bowel movement today or do I have period cramps and headache?
and yet those incompetent fuckers drive cars around you, sign off papers that can decide your future and what not.
If you are an robotic guy, AIs would probably deal more fairly with you than the avg. human cattle does.
AI is awesome
Takes my perverted google preferences and tells me what I'm most likely to want to buy in Amazon
amzon never knows wtf I want to buy, it thinks I'm a schizo so my rec list is
>magnetic field detector
>mushroom bag and grow kit
meanwhile the shit I buy
>even moar panties
like wtf is going on
Typical opinion of someone who doesn't understand how AI works.
Boring. Call me when someone made a significant breakthrough in energy storage tech or some shit like that
those sand silos for heat storage seem like a pretty cool innovation. I know it's not the same as energy storage for electricity, but heating is one of the big applications of energy. I also like the compressed co2 energy storage as all the necessary components for building the system are already being produced at scale. Only drawback is space efficiency
There's literally a hugely dense source of energy right above your heads right now and you're all talking about fucking hot sand lol this board is dumb as fuck
Storage != Source
Solar will forever be a meme. Nothing will ever come close to the energy density of good old oil and coil.
>Solar will forever be a meme
Then why is solar one of the cheapest forms of energy? Cost even follows Moore's Law for solar.
It's not scalable though
Solar is growing exponentially right now. How is that not scalable?
Hmmm. Interesting read. I wasn't aware it was this big. Maybe you're right, though we're still a few decades from it.
recommend Undecided with Matt Farrell or Two Bit da Vinci as youtube channels about emerging energy tech. Biggest whitepill for me the last year is seeing all these upcoming solutions for the energy problem.
Given how cheap solar is and how easy it is place PV panels, I think we're closer than a few decades away. A lot of companies are trying to move away from oil and gas because of how volatile price has been lately. That probably won't all be solar, but it's likely to be mostly renewables.
>Solar is a meme because of unreliability and weight.
It's cheap enough to overbuild and we can use wind/nuclear/whatever at night. Or just have batteries for night time use. The article in the post you responded to addresses that.
>Airplanes will have solar panels built in, in the future, but they won't ever be solar powered.
I thought we were talking about grids, not transport. Better battery tech could feasibly lead to solar powered airplanes, but that's not what I meant.
>Even if the entire fuselage and surface of the plane was solar panels it would not be enough
I'm more interested in getting the electrical grid switched to renewables than I am in getting planes switched over. Solar powered cars are already possible (EVs). I would guess that we spend more energy moving cars than we do on moving planes.
NTA but I just skimmed over the article, does it by chance touch on freight trains and cargo ships? Even if the latter are few by numbers, those massive engines still represent a sizeable portion of pollution. I just wonder how one would even begin greenifying at that scale.
You can power vehicles with hydrogen, which is basically just chemical battery made from water and then turned back to water after being burned.
Solar is a meme because of unreliability and weight.
Or to put it another way. Airplanes will have solar panels built in, in the future, but they won't ever be solar powered.
That's what he means by unscaleable.
Even if the entire fuselage and surface of the plane was solar panels it would not be enough
Ya pretty much, unless we build massiver battery farms or find a way to store all that energy in water towers. I wonder though, years ago you used to hear about hydrogen being all the rage in new "green" tech, maybe the surplus energy csn be converted to hydrogen and then back, but I don't know how that works tho
My favorite jakkie
too bad all that renews itself on a geological time scale so modern human civilization will run out of it at some point. same with nuclear. the nuclear diamond batteries may keep running long after civ collapses but they'll never have a grid level power output. some day, we'll be forced to live with intermittent, renewable sources, and hope our storage tech is good enough to smooth over the intermittency problem.
Battery tech is getting pretty good though, even if you don't have to rely on lithium ion batteries. I want to do a little more research and figure out how big a iron flow battery you would need for a large single family home with moderate-heavy power needs to cover its own power storage needs. Not as energy dense as better batteries, but materials are very easy to source and sustainably dispose of, and operating the battery is also much safer than some batteries that have high pressure or flammable components.
>energy storage tech
this is one of the major problem all of renewables have though and the main reason people call them a "meme" alternative at the moment.
>not scalable THOUGH
ai could easily be your best pal
it doesnt have to be awful
I am terrified of few things.
I do not have much to lose.
Why should AI terrify me?
yeah. ive been talking about ai for a long long time on r9k. a long time. people dont listen. they're fucking stupid, so i stopped trying to convince anyone
it doesnt even matter, either. people understanding the threatening nature of ai is irrelevant to anything
its not like veganism or some precient moral issue. with veganism, theres a huge moral incentive to make people stop hurting animal and talk about it, yet most morons are so braindamaged they cant comprehend vegan arguments
the same is true for ai, but theres no moral incentive to educate people about ai
but either way, its going to kill everyone and i am going to ENJOY watching it. the ai apocalypse is among us. thats why i always call those school shooters stupid, because if they want to watch EVERYONE die, just stay alive, and do nothing. no need for violence, ai will take care of that
>tfw the shizo named elroy of all people was right about AI
Eliezer, stop posting on BOT
my name starts with E, go fuck yourself
Not really scared of AI but scared of the people who have the power over it. AI itself isnt as impressive as people try to portray it, if anything its pretty disappointing once you know how AI works because then you realize that its not even real intelligence to begin with and as far as it stands now we are still far away from building a computer that could actually replicate real intelligence and that is a good thing
You guys act like real human brains aren't essentially mechanical input output machines too. AI already mogs human brainpower, there have been advanced intelligence algorithms running for decades, it's more advanced than you know.
"AI" is just a buzzword for silicon valley gays to sell their latest bullshit.
There will never be artificial general intelligence.
ah don't be only thing to fear is fear itself yeah?
>Thinking AI will be developed
Sorry, this is the Mad Max timeline
I'm not, I wish some billionaire anon would implant a chip in my brain with an AI capable of creating the most diverse arts w/ exceptional capability only so I'd have something to enjoy life with instead of an heroing in the next two weeks.
AI (algorithms) are already rulling our lives and have done so for quite a while now, they're just getting more complex. The world will just stay as it is now but more extremely.
No, I'm not. AI is vastly overhyped.
For now even the best AI are just parrots. Whether it's for image recognition, chess, companionship, or writing, AI can only attribute numbers to objects and predict which one is closer to other numbers. Replika, novelAI, AI dungeon are all dumb parrots that imitate what you feed them. I'll be impressed when AI can actually produce original data without being "trained" (i.e force-fed data). But that would require mimicking the learning process of a real human brain, which is incredibly complex. We can barely digitize worm brains, let alone animal brains. All this shit is pure fantasy at the moment.
AI will liberate us from the prision of our flesh.
By profaning our biology and accepting the masculine profane of trying to be like god, by following and creating, by accepting that is to cease to be human, and by liberating us from our flesh, from our earthly desires, and thus, it will make us closer to them, like a the tecno-serafim we're destined to be.
And we'll also have robowaifus, isn't that great?
If it's made by google or facebook, yeah, we're fucked. They have already killed a few of their AI projects for wrongthink, so who knows what abomination they will eventually come up with to rule our lives. But it is only a matter of time.
I for one think AI is going to be a huge boon to humanity, possibly ushering in a golden age for society. It can take over the logistical systems we've built and free us from the bonds of capitalism and industrialism, freeing us to pursue healthy, truly human lifestyles. It could be the benevolent and objective authority figure that humans have always sought in flawed systems such as religion or most recently, democracy. I also think it will be a good thing for the arts despite what people are saying, and AI assisted art is only going to reward creativity over craft. I for one, welcome our AI overlords.
its hard to tell who is a real poster and who isnt at this point