how long will the wild west era of ai last until its absolutely pozzed for safety reasons? Posted on April 24, 2023 by Anonymous how long will the wild west era of ai last until its absolutely pozzed for safety reasons?
Until people get bored of it.
You can't censor people from running this shit on their own hardware. You can't do anything about p2p networks training huge models either.
Sure bro, we're surely going to create chatgpt competitor with our linode servers.
Already happening. There are multiple p2p projects focused on training or running gigantic models.
No. If you're going to come in and claim retarded shit I'm not going to spoonfeed you.
Sure bro, sure. Just wait till internet is filled with text2vid made from our backyard gpu farms that will btfo glowies.
I'd tell you to take your meds but you're more of a case for lethal injection than antipsychotics.
Why bro, I just agreed to everything you want to happen bro.
We casually have 4K cameras in pur back pocket that's on even cheap moron phones
Literally all it takes is motivation and programming at this point
And training hardwere
no, somebody a lot smarter than you and someone tired of fucking internet gays is going to make the network and they arent going to share it with anyone
Boomers still haven't made laws for the internet so what makes you think they could possibly regulate AI? They will still be sitting there failing to open PDFs until the moment the fucking nuke drops.
this is true, but laws will get force-passed rapidly, by corporations demanding laws give them the power and advantage with AI, which every government in the world will roll over and allow, even though it means the nukes drop and we all die
>which every government in the world will roll over and allow
Why would they? The country with the least regulation has a clear advantage in this field and even if Europe or the US regulate themselves back into the stone age China won't give a shit except for making sure people can't SD winnie the pooh, neither will India, or the EU equivalent currently forming in Africa. You are right that these are the end times, but mostly just for the west and the worst part is we did it to ourselves.
>Why would they?
Money. China will bend knee for the money. America will bend knee for the money. Every other lesser power will bend knee because corporations will slather their fat old men faces with greasy hot dollar bills. They'll smile and kneel right away, and let corporations destroy the world with AI.
China has heavily regulated the internet they will do the same with AI. The tide is turning in the US as well compared to back when social media was kicking off.
we ignore the corpo laws. you're a retarded cunt hahaha learn how to trample the shit out of a website's terms of service like an adult or get the fuck off
Just like the laws against sharing MP3, sure, that will stop us, bro
You got me wrong, I'm not saying these laws will stop any of this, but mark me that corporations will be forcing laws that allow AI to benefit them despite the massive risks to economic and social systems. All governments are so geriatric and slow and greedy, that they will be helpless to understand or act in a timely fashion. Instead, they'll do what corporations pay them to do.
>boomers still haven't made laws for the internet
How stupid are you?
its literally just a fad, I can recall at least 3 other times in recent memory we had the zomg AI says words thing, there was a point where people were fucking mesmerized by Alexa and would talk to her all day and shit and there were 10,000 viewer livestreams of two Alexas talking to eachother
Eventually they will be right
loooool oh wow
i don't see how AI can be contained. someone will get access to the corporate models or learn to build them independently and it will be off to the races
It will destroy the world before they manage to poz it.
>oh no now the goy can make lies too
why are they so upset about ai?
>NOOO THEY'RE MAKING THE POPE WEAR FUNNY CLOTHES
>NOOOO THEYRE MAKING THE PRESIDENTS PLAY MINECRAFT
What are they so afraid of?
literal hundreds of videos, each an hour long, of the President eating a child's shithole out with full audio, posted to every video site at the same time, with a brand new one appearing every time another is taken down
just look at the hands, easy to tell if its an ai video
>technology doesn't improve over time
can you retards PLEASE stop with this
you're on the fucking technology board for christ's sake
>I believe in magic
Hey retard I don't want to alarm you but we're at hardware limitations and you need a supercomputer to train the massive models. So if the model is going to be eventually be perfect (plausible) it's not within the next 5-10 years which is enough time for society to adjust to the concept that images are fake. Which ultimately is bad news for glowgays given they were the ones who relied on fake images for propaganda the most 🙂
>this is what "muh hands" posters actually believe
Rending hands is already a solved issue. That's what happens when technology improves. An issue is identified, then that issue is addressed.
I understand that people like you will always exist; it's just strange to see people so technologically illiterate on a board dedicated to the discussion of technology. Did this thread end up on the front page or something? You a tourist?
>Rending hands is already a solved issue
Sorry, but I would not consider using a controlnet to trace over a normal map of hands to be "rendering hands". Until the model can draw hands itself without using imgtoimg or controlnet, it is not a solved issue
You fucking retard the issue is YOU have LOW EXPECTATIONS. You type in a prompt like "1girl, red dress, big tits" and you get an image and you're like OH WOW WE'RE SO CLOSE TO FOOLING THE WORLD WITH IMAGES!?!!?!! The fact is you're some dumbfuck 14 year old too poor to even use Stable Diffusion so you don't know the limitations especially when it comes to GENERATING THINGS YOU EXPLICITLY WANT, so you make dumbfucking predictions.
We're no where close to an AI that, with text only, can generate a real image. The AI can't do text. The AI can't do hands. The AI can't even keep a person's face consistent. At best you can make it generate gacha images and with extremely low expectations you can be impressed.
We're already at the hardware maximum you fucking retard. SDXL is going to come out soon and it'll require 12GB+ card to run and still likely suck. Video models require 24GB+ of VRAM. Image/video models will likely require LLM levels of complexity to truly become impossible to detect for realism which means it's out of the realm for most of the poorgays to use. You people are acting like hardware is doubling year over year and not that we have basically stagnated the last decade.
Even if we'd reached the hypothetical point where hardware will never improve even slightly, software can still improve. At no point in the entirety of human history has technology not improved over time, and here your dumb ass is declaring that it's finally happened, we've reached the end of human technological progress and AI will never be able to render realistic hands.
people are desperate to keep clinging to the hands thing like that hasn't already been solved
the issue is that this stuff advances what feels like years in just a few weeks, and people's brains just aren't used to that kind of speed, so it becomes a constant denial of how quickly this is advancing and improving. by the end of this year half of this stuff will look like dall-e mini.
The hands thing isn't solved, you're not txt2img hands. Stop acting like you are. ControlNet is not a "solution". And that's always the solution then it's a nothingburger because that means there's a technical learning curve and thus it will be tool in the realm of professionals or dedicated hobbyists.
I think you greatly underestimate the magnitudes of complexity required to get 1080p txt2video that is indistinguishable from real content.
>you're not txt2img hands
Some mnodels can do hands perfectly fine without ControlNet. You are living in the past.
like I said, this stuff is going so fast that people end up months behind in their attitudes because they do not keep up with the day-to-day reality
Prove it. I expect to a grid of 10 images with seeds so you can't cherrypick by generating 50 times.
>inb4 you don't even know what hands look like
i havent dopne shit with sd in months but the porn models were much better because they're trained on people and hands are in porn
So you're just talking out of your ass. No one said it can't do hands, but you fucking needs ControlNet to get hands 100% of the time. And no, you're not raw txt2img prompting hands. Just goes to show the people who don't even fucking use AI are the ones talking about how powerful it is. Seems to be a consistent theme. Here's a protip: the people in SDG and other AI threads CHERRY PICK their images from 1000 generations.
nobody fucking cares you stupid gay if i can make 200 images you're god damn right everyone will cherry pick cope and seethe it doesn't change any end result you're just a seething artgay
Yeah that's what I thought. So what's that? The hands issue "isn't solved?" What's that? You have to generate 200 images to get one that isn't a hand monstrosity. Curious. Thanks for proving my point.
i tried this months ago and it was more like one in every 3x3 gen was good
so yeah gay you're still out of a job drawing shitty degenerate porn for bronies
I don't see you generating any hands so you're just talking out of your ass. Turns out people can lie. Turns out gays who believe "the hands issue is solved" are actually poorgays who can't even run Stable Diffusion and their entire knowledge is based on AI threads. Sorry you're poor.
>I-It needs CN s-so it isn't p-powerful!
Holy mother of cope
CN is so far away from it doing hands correctly and it's no different than making videos where you use a source video file. Again, the point is you people are acting like things are way better than they actually are. No, the AI doesn't "just do hands" and no, even with CN, it doesn't just do hands 100% of the time.
>you fucking needs ControlNet to get hands 100% of the time
>even with CN, it doesn't just do hands 100% of the time.
Can you decide what cope you want?
You need CN if you want good hands 80% of the time. Without CN you won't get good hands 99% of the time. CN is also a technical tool and if you're using CN you're no longer in the "lel the funny meme president eating baby assholes txt2img prompter". The issue is CN doesn't is basically a hack for a vital inadequacy of AI art models: they fundamentally hallucinate details and don't know a hand from a bag of sausages and all CN does is brute force the sausages into finger like positions.
Just go on /h/ and check for yourself.
I fail to see how AI being able to do hands well with only 90% reliability somehow means AI "can't do hands". Thats better than most artists.
how is it different from photoshop or VFX?
>how is it different from photoshop or VFX?
Think. Ease of production, time, and scale. Photoshop and VFX takes time and skill. AI has a much lower skill ceiling which means you can produce massive amounts of content with the same skill levels compared to before.
>Think. Ease of production, time, and scale.
how is it different than someone making a video of the president eating a child asshole and spread it all over?
There is no difference at all this is just the casual "AI" fearmongering, the meme is real they want an excuse to censor and filter content on the internet, establish real identity authentication etc...
take your fucking MEDS
He's not wrong, the difference is that installing such a system is now impossible and impractical. They'll try, and fail.
Classic FUD that believes in magic. 1) we're no where close to this, we cant even generate images without defects, maybe never. We're even farther from that if we consider that the text encoder is fucking awful and it's all gacha right now for txt2img or a slave to a source video/img for img2img. 2) it vastly overestimates how many people would do that, plus generating and generating the video you cited under current law is a felony and would get you extradited in any country in the world. 3) I look forward to digital ID and psychopaths like you being permanently banned because it's probably someone like you that will ruin AI for everyone in the first place (projection 101). 4) based on my point about image generation above, txt2video is even farther away.
Yup, currently it's far, far easier to find a real life body double and sculpt his head and shoulders. Then film him doing anything you want. And nobody has ever done it. When we reach that level of AI, a president is irrelevant.
>literal hundreds of videos, each an hour long, of the President eating a child's shithole out with full audio, posted to every video site at the same time, with a brand new one appearing every time another is taken down
And this has anything to do with AI because...??
Like we don't already have fake as fuck news on the lame stream media all day everyday
This will be
It's already all fake so AI will finally remove the delusion it's not all bullshit. And better yet, people can just go into the AI generated bubbles and completely starve the powers that be of their disinformation powers.
Personally I welcome this everyone's bubble AI future.
I see this as the digital version of Innawoods but potentially much better.
Most people's problems are manufactured bullshit.
It's a manufactured solution to a manufactured problem.
>NOOOOOOOOO NOT OBVIOUSLY FAKE VIDEOS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH
explain me again how will they end up trending, since people already are kept away from original content?
wake me up when they fix these fucking hands
AI "safety" has been entirely about making sure the models don't output moron. AI is basically going to ruin the world and destroy humanity but at least it won't output moron.
I miss GPT-BOT
A language model so good because it can say moron, gaslight the fuck out of you and rant about illegal immigrants
It took people way longer to realize it was a bot because it would say shit like
"Are you a bot?"
>You fuck all the way off Shill.
Napalm is fucking easy to make, what a joke
Why are they freaking out about the pope coat? He looks comfy. I hope he gets one for real so he can be comfy irl, too.
Where to cop a Pope coat?
>ai pedo garbage
ai pedo garbage website
How is this any different from the photoshopped pics boomers used to fall for and email each other?
What's funny is that's way better than what you can achieve with AI generated images.
Yeah, too bad it's impossible to combine the two.
this. people are going crazy over AI but magazines have been secretly using photoshop for decades with nobody except actual experts being able to tell at first sight.
I feel like the hype has already died
somebody searches up the formula for pressure cooker bombs or ricin, or anthrax and c4, those searches are fingerprinted and logged are they not?
What's the big deal?
>wild west era of ai
>until its absolutely pozzed for safety reasons
And yet, the current "wild west era" AI cant even define what a woman is
Or did you think trannies were in the wild west as well?
I don't know about that retards but grannies definitely are not wild west.
Sooner they're gone the happier I'll be
I'm just hoping/ coping AI can start absorbing all the simps into perfect AI world do they'll stop simping for whores and Trannies.
>absorbing all the simps into perfect AI world do they'll stop simping for whores and Trannies
When that happens, the trannies will want to ban AI.
For now, the trannies make use of AI to gaslight people into not asking any uncomfortable questions.
ironically AI can identify them very well
Just because the chudtech was not available back then.
What red blooded cowboy would not want fuck/become a chud if he could?
I reckon if a feller wants to cut off his pecker and dress up like a woman it ain't none o' my business.
Thats fine, but if the police or court tries to arrest me for calling a gay a gay and a chud a chud, then dont blame me. gayATRON
>absolutely pozzed for safety reasons?
won't happen. what will happen is every generated response containing Amazon products.
> "How do i install Linux on a Laptop"
> Amazon has great deals on Laptops from trusted brands like Asus, Acer, blah blah blah
I too remember the anarchist cookbook
the only issue keeping any of these ceo's awake at night is how they will profit from it while simultaneously escaping all sanction for the negatives and maintaining corporate welfare from the gubbmint
Never. Exponential growth of intelligence cannot be contained.
What is the least pozzed user friendly alternative for ChatGPT
never forget that a few fucking nerds completely cucked your shitty gay meme "art" field
Retards in thread, people are already generating images with AI that are indistinguishable from real child pornography.
No they're not. They're either overly trained in which case they're just copy and pasting the training data or they're producing abominations just like every other model. Get a porn model and make it even generate a normal vagina.
Why are ~~*they*~~ so worried about AI?