hoarding ai art prompts

why do dall-e, stablediffusion, midjourney "artists" hoard prompts?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dall-e
    >stablediffusion
    >midjourney
    >hoarding prompts

    I'm finally old enough to not understand any of the words young people are using these days

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah you're just low IQ. That means you're retarded btw.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kek

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          nice self portrait

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you lurk on this board for more than 12 seconds, you'll learn what stablediffusion is.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No you won't. Not if you don't give a shit. I don't know what it is and I've been on this board for as long as it's been here. I see about a dozen threads a day on that shit and still don't read them because I don't give a fuck

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          fake and gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just buzzwords for software that creates images using machine learning from a huge collection of existing images.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Windows, Linux and Mac are also buzzwords for software that makes your computer run.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was trying to explain it in a simple way.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you can't just call everything a buzzword, retard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, yes I can.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So i know basically what these things are (dall-e and stablediffusion at least) but can someone please explain what the difference is? Or are they literally just different programs for the same thing?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They use different statistical methods and software engineering so they each have a niche (midjourney is better for creating abstract art for example).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dall-E is shit and StableDiffusion is better and open source. That's all you need to know.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you may or may not be old, but what you are is a bit retarded
      it's like if i go into a database thread and bitch about kids talking about normalization and queries

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's like person in 2005 saying "Wait what is samsung or nokia, I don't understand world anymore!"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you tried to sound funny, but only sounded like an absolute retard fyi

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know. My stuff isn't that good but I don't mind sharing my prompts if people want them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      (Alphonse Mucha:1.04), (Frank Cho:0.889), Frank McCarthy, (J Scott Campbell:0.094). Digital (painting:1.13), intricate, high detail. (Fitness Instructor:1.05) [Bryce Dallas Howard:(Elsa:1.11):0.45], (bratty Platinum Blonde:1.12). choker. (Cute). (detailed, realistic face:1.21), (seductive smile:1.05). (Bathykolpian:1.215) (muscular body:0.7), (huge breasts:1.582), (powerful pose:1.42). ((slutty) fitness bikini:1.292). (lustful woman)
      Negative prompt: ~~*(man*~~), male, (out of frame:1.21), (extra fingers:1.21), mutated hands, (poorly drawn hands:1.21), (poorly drawn face:1.21), (mutation:1.333), (deformed:1.332), (tiling:1.331), (tile:1.221), (fleshpile:1.21), (ugly:1.21), (abstract:1.331), blurry, (bad anatomy:1.21), (bad proportions:1.21), (extra limbs:1.21), cloned face, (skinny:1.331), glitchy, (extra breasts:1.21), (double torso:1.21), (extra arms:1.21), (extra hands:1.21), (mangled fingers:1.21), (missing breasts:1.21), (missing lips:1.105), (ugly face:1.21), (fat:1.21), (extra legs:1.2105), (asian:1.22), (testicles:1.331), (penis:1.105), (male:2.0), anime
      Steps: 40, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 10, Seed: 3053196898, Size: 448x704, Model hash: 7460a6fa, Denoising strength: 0.7

      Warning: too many input tokens; some (57) have been truncated:
      face : 1 . 2 1 seductive smile : 1 . 0 5 bathykolpian : 1 . 2 1 5 muscular body : 0 . 7 huge breasts : 1 . 5 8 2 powerful pose : 1 . 4 2 slutty fitness bikini : 1 . 2 9 2 lustful woman

      If you guys want it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Warning: too many input tokens; some (57) have been truncated:

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          well I never claimed I was good lmao.
          I am working on these prompts though. Cutting part of the useless fat doesnt make any difference in the picture, but some of these are important otherwise you get some ugly garbage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      those hands

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone needs to make stablebooru where the only submissions allowed are those that include prompts, model, seed, etc. Maybe even include a built in cloud hosting for gold members to make variations on submissions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're on to something anon
      retards would pay for a sub to it, it'd be like nexus mods, where people freely submit their own creations and prompts, but you paywall for users to access it

      garden gnomeery 101

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A booru where the prompts are the image tags

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nerds make a tool to let others expand their mind and push humanity forward
    >people immediately think about thinking about the best way to make money off of it
    letting non computer science, software engineers, network engineers and it workers to the internet is a mistake.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. General access to the internet for normies was a mistake.
      Reclaim what's rightfully ((you))rs!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      patreon was really the nail in the coffin for the creative web

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How?

        It seems to me that it actually just empowers creatives. They can directly interface with their audience and price themselves instead of having to go through shady bookdeals or publishers and whatnot.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      opportunists and computer nerds are not mutually exclusive, I saw a lot of crypto mining gays that were already in the field.

      >tfw people who hate capitalism really actually hate opportunists
      >opportunists would exist in socialism too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        maybe, that'll be the best way to describe it. it's just the same as modding past FO4/Steam's attempt for paid modding. introduced a flood of wannabe paid modders and it destroyed the nature of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. I try to always tell people there is nothing wrong with capitalism because capitalism is not a system. It is the absence of a system. It is people doing whatever they would naturally do. If it fails its because of the choice of individuals. It's like constantly arguing over distros. I mean look at South America, so many socialist countries that were nightmares because of corruption and greed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No. Capitalism is not the absence of a system, I appreciate the effort you've put into thinking by yourself but it's time you open up a book.

          First of all, I'm going to go on a limb here but I imagine when you think of what socialism is you imagine it's "when the state does stuff" which is a thoroughly wrong view. Of course, the state owning the means of production and the state being comprised of workers could be interpreted as the workers therefore owning the means of production. But this vision skips over one of the fundamental critiques of the capital system: hierarchical top down ownership leads to unequal power.

          Corruption is as you say a feature of human nature, I completely agree with this view but as Machiavelli put it, we need the proper structures and regulations to stop people from taking advantage of the system. Now, when you bring this critique to businesses the main point that stands out is that a structure that replicates monarchic hierarchies will be a breeding ground for corruption and inefficiencies. When marx explores the idea of workers owning the means of production a large part of it has to do with this critique of unequal decision making. In my opinion, it is much harder for corruption to thrive when power is decentralised, now, it's not a panacea and you still need the appropriate structures and regulations but to think this way you're challenging the notion of "I funded the business and therefore it is mine", commonly known as the idea of private property.

          I don't have many more words buy the next thing to explore would be the profit motive and competition, also integral parts to a capitalist mode of production and a huge part on why decentralised capitalist structures (publicly traded companies) end up doing things that harm society instead of improving it.

          Anyway, I don't know what kind of people you talk to but they're probably dumb as fuck if they accept your arguments as you've lined them out here.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > socialist countries that became nightmares due to imperial Capitalist corruption and greed.
          ftfy

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No. Capitalism is not the absence of a system, I appreciate the effort you've put into thinking by yourself but it's time you open up a book.
          >First of all, I'm going to go on a limb here but I imagine when you think of what socialism is you imagine it's "when the state does stuff" which is a thoroughly wrong view. Of course, the state owning the means of production and the state being comprised of workers could be interpreted as the workers therefore owning the means of production. But this vision skips over one of the fundamental critiques of the capital system: hierarchical top down ownership leads to unequal power. >Corruption is as you say a feature of human nature, I completely agree with this view but as Machiavelli put it, we need the proper structures and regulations to stop people from taking advantage of the system. Now, when you bring this critique to businesses the main point that stands out is that a structure that replicates monarchic hierarchies will be a breeding ground for corruption and inefficiencies. When marx explores the idea of workers owning the means of production a large part of it has to do with this critique of unequal decision making. In my opinion, it is much harder for corruption to thrive when power is decentralised, now, it's not a panacea and you still need the appropriate structures and regulations but to think this way you're challenging the notion of "I funded the business and therefore it is mine", commonly known as the idea of private property.
          >I don't have many more words buy the next thing to explore would be the profit motive and competition, also integral parts to a capitalist mode of production and a huge part on why decentralised capitalist structures (publicly traded companies) end up doing things that harm society instead of improving it.
          >Anyway, I don't know what kind of people you talk to but they're probably dumb as fuck if they accept your arguments as you've lined them out here.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >capitalism is the absence of a system
          They hated him because he told them the truth

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >capitalism is the absence of a system
          They hated him because he told them the truth

          No need to samegay your post.
          Tribalism and violence are the default state of any animal species.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Commie cope. Failed every time it's been tried. Body counts surpassing the holocaust (which, despite Michael Tracey's attempt to deny, really happened).

          Deal with it, wordcel.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most people don't really care about capitalism or communism in today's context because we live an a society that divides people between these two for the sake of the leverage of the administrative class.
        I stopped thinking in those terms long ago and only now are people getting the memo in the streets.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A whole lot of the research pushing the field forward is funded by companies trying to make money off it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You should be forced to get an autism diagnosis before you can use the internet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you think tech people are not also whores for money and completely egotistical? 90% of them are.DRWW

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just want interesting art from this. All I see is a text prompt production workstation.
      Why we're calling it AI is beyond me. It's too trapped in it's determinism to be something I would call "AI".
      What we have here is just a text prompt sampler.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if stable diffusion has done well is producing new cute clothes. so many nice dresses

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're ok, but I was kinda wishing this thing would have a more complex imagination. But clearly it doesn't have one, it just algorithmic lists and preferences of sources to reflect.
          This just confirms that our open source AI understanding in this day and age is still in it's infancy.

          Tarantino makes garbage though

          That's because you have shit taste.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >open source AI understanding
            ye pretty much, that's what i suspected. even programming AI is absolutely tough in general. I have no idea why people on /v/ keep mentioning its going to take over industries, because programming that stuff is very domain specific. very, very domain specific.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              But this shit has gotten me interested in how we can "do everything wrong" with it.
              I kinda want to use this to make the most weird shit we've seen.

              Uncanny valley is ok, but I want to go further.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve got a prompt for you…if you’re interested

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes
      i blame smartphones, it opened the gates for all the normies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      These sort of people infested CS at the very least 10 years ago.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    prompt hoarders are gays
    it's literally impossible to reverse a prompt

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need to reverse the prompt though, just come up with your own prompt that looks similar enough. I've done stuff that people say looks Giger-esque without any Giger in my prompts, for example.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        more often than not that is completely impossible

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >just come up with your own prompt that looks similar enough
        Anon, they can't do something that requires effort. The people begging for prompts are the same people that use "talent" as an excuse as to why they can't do anything.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >posting the leddit nested replies but not the image in question

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nvm, THIS is what ledditors are seething over, kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Creating coherent hands and feet in these models is pretty difficult, though I'm not so sure about an image taken up entirely by one hand

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >extra knuckle

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >extra knuckle

        this and the index doesn't align with correctly with the ring finger, besides that it's fucked up. The thumb rotation is also wrong given its position, and it looks like the woman can't paint her nails correctly. The image and prompt is shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Average American nail salon cuticle work

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is scaled up, retard. Those splotches are just 1-2 mm, no one will see them anyway.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ledditors would argue why it is white skinned instead of bipoc

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Diamond ring on right hand
        Lads, she's available.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ah, so the actual reason he doesn't want to share the prompt is because it was a fluke. It was probably "hand model, red nail polish, wedding ring" with a seed image of a hand to boot.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i dont think the exact same prompt would generate the exact same image.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      with the same seed it would

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Artists don't need to hide their techniques.
    What they did is often plain to see, and easy to emulate for another artist of similar skill.
    Real art is the process of creating that original work which grabs attention, and isn't something that can be stolen.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Real art is the process of creating that original work which grabs attention

      This.

      It's rare to have that kind of skill and understanding in how to create art that captivates. Copycats and 'routine' artists (i.e. they learn a workflow and keep doing that to sell their art for a living) won't be able to make captivating art.

      Just because someone is enthralled by your art doesn't mean you actually made good art.

      inb4
      >Everyones definition of art is different
      >If someone likes it, then that means it's good art. The art moved someone

      1/? picrelated.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        2/?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          In the music industry we call it "overproduction".
          I can already tell that these sdg images are basically the equivalent of a bad track overproduced. Dumb people might like it, but for a trained ear it's nails on chalkboard.

          But, overproduction can be exploitable as a new wave of musical style too.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think that's a good metaphor.
            These AI-generated images may look good at first blush, but the longer you pay attention the more disgusting they become.
            I think the obvious counterargument is "but the AI is only going to get better", and that's true, but I'm only going to get better at spotting flaws. The first time I saw an AI image it took me about 2 minutes to see the cracks. Now it takes me a few seconds. A person who grows up in a world where AI art is common may be able to do it instantly.
            I also agree that it's a valuable tool if used intelligently. It's ideal for doing something like making art for a horror game where being vaguely unsettling is the first line on the design doc.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The first time I saw an AI image it took me about 2 minutes to see the cracks. Now it takes me a few seconds.

              What do you see? The only things I can see are:
              >that if you don't explicitly dictate the prompt to make good hands or anatomy, they become garbled monstrosities.
              >If you don't put in an artist, the quality of the image becomes noticeably worse because the AI has less information to work into the image.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          luddite shit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah Tarantino really proved in the 90s that going back to basics really does make better content.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Tarantino makes garbage though

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is this laddie shit? All he's saying is that photorealism is kind of a poor goal. I agree. We find beauty in the abstraction of what real is: to boil something down to its essence. He's completely correct about it being boring too.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's the exact same problem as with music and other forms of art, it starts to look like a polished turd.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Prompt hoarding" is just retarded. Imagine hoarding napkins with scribbles on them. Actual trash lmao. Probably some kind of psychological issue.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >atheists
    >hoarding information
    classic

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolute stupid.
    > Nuuuu Mah Precious Prompts!
    > Can't have that!
    > Noo I'll have to get a real job otherwise!

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They imagine themselves 10th century alchemists.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    based. no-prompters will always seethe towards the good prompt engineers. they have no reason to give up their creation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >prompt engineers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel this whole 'prompt crafting' is just an anomaly which will vanish just as rapidly as it came, as the technology develops.

        based. no-prompters will always seethe towards the good prompt engineers. they have no reason to give up their creation.

        BAHAHAHAHA

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can make money by typing buzzwords for an AI?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          AXAXAXAXAXXAXXA

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel this whole 'prompt crafting' is just an anomaly which will vanish just as rapidly as it came, as the technology develops.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not likely.
      Much of "prompt crafting" is trying to work around the dated CLIP model's idiosyncrasies.
      A lot of it is using a crystal ball to figure out the labeling for the source material dataset.
      The rest of it is discovering artists and abusing prompt editing for unique effects.

      As it goes, there is no better way to generate an image than to use a thousand words.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >As it goes, there is no better way to generate an image than to use a thousand words.
        Once someone figures out a way to make the models default to good-looking, coherent images you would end up getting good art even without any prompting at all. Prompts would only be needed to steer towards a specific outcome rather than poking the model towards making something pleasant.

        The "trending on artstation, 4k" thing could just be turned into a slider that tweaks the "details" and "quality" neurons directly once they have been identified.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Once someone figures out a way to make the models default to good-looking, coherent images
          You just need more data and a larger model, it's not complicated.
          >without any prompting at all
          Not true. The models will always have edge cases due to limitations in human expression and excessive restrictions.

          For example, if you prompt, "Jessica" all by itself, you are pretty much guaranteed to get something that looks good.
          Every token you use is another restriction on the model, an entire set of possibilities cut off. The more restrictive the model, the more artifacts you will have.
          Good luck generating "A green-haired woman juggling bottles of champagne while balancing on a ball, inside of an office building."

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    (OP) #
    >lmao ai isn't stealing from artists
    >noooo my heckin' prompts!!!! those are trademarked! my own personally written prompts are mine! copyright do not steal!

  16. 2 months ago
    just39

    what reddit client do you use?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why do you ask? you aren't a.. PLEBBITOR are you?!?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they always type like they have a brain aneurysm?

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ah a schizophrenia thread, sweet

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >prompt selling
    You fucks were supposed to rid of commissioners, not turn into them!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i want to sell my prompt
      lol uh lol wat?

      I gonna pirate the prompts and seed it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sneed and feed those prompts

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lmao you dumb artists so fearful of AI stealing my work cry moar
    >WHY PPL STEAL PROMPT COPYRIGHT DO NOT STEAL
    lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      pajeets have no understanding of irony

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    every hobby has autistics in it.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anon whats so hard to understand you saw it before in NFTs/crypto/mods before that they had stocks or something else. There is always a group of people who wish to abuse the tools provided to them to make a buck nothing new. Just ignore and move on the prompts aren't even hard to guess.
    Or build a img2prompt AI if you think its so important.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Img2prompt might actually be genius. Probably easier to let a machine guess what a machine is thinking

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        anon whats so hard to understand you saw it before in NFTs/crypto/mods before that they had stocks or something else. There is always a group of people who wish to abuse the tools provided to them to make a buck nothing new. Just ignore and move on the prompts aren't even hard to guess.
        Or build a img2prompt AI if you think its so important.

        Already exists, called "Interrogate"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          holy shit I wondered what that did. That’s awesome

          wait so the guys who are mad at artists for not wanting their shit stolen are... hiding their prompts in case someone steals it? am i getting this right?
          imagine having the ego of an artist but not the skill. how pathetic.

          Yea it’s a joke. This whole thing is a shitshow. Artists deny it even working, which it clearly does. people steal talent from artists, then people insist it’s not stealing from the artists because it’s technically not the same. then they take pride in their creations as if they were entirely original works. Suddenly they have a sense of ownership and find themselves in the position of the artist who doesn’t want to share except they didn’t have to do anything lol. The whole thing is pretty funny to watch, I can’t stop thinking about the chad who decided to make this open source free to use for all. Truly a one off experience. It’s nice to see something completely implausible happening that’s actually fun. The circus continues

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based, don't share kino prompts with retards

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Prompt crafting is an art, as I like to call them promtistas.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    when you finally get stuff that looks good and some guy goes give me that it's natural to say 'no'.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i want to sell my prompt
    lol uh lol wat?

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is that site?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      reddit

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont want to hoard prompts but i would like an offline copy of the current AI so i can compare it to the ones in a few years/ have fun with outdated crappy AI

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally just stash a backup of your stable diffusion install? People here are hyped particularly about this one because it runs local (well, it also runs SaaS on Discord Colab etc. but that's not the point).

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    he used his good mate brian

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why do dall-e, stablediffusion, midjourney "artists" hoard prompts?
    Because they're trash and will remain trash.

    The tricks that people figured out on the prompts of course make what is produced better, and so do open sauce contributions to models, webui, the engine, model merging and so on.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Option 1: they are simply gays that want to feel special.
    Option 2: they've cheated in some way and don't want to get caught.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the same people who are trying to gate keep art and seethe over AI.
    Artists are just pretentious, insufferable fucks. The idea of altruistic help and collaboration is just alien to them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >altruistic help
      Anon, altruism is not a thing.

      Everyone always does things in their own interest. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're selfish. Providing a service for someone for compensation technically is also 'in your own interest'. In fact, just doing something for someone else without anything in return is pretty inefficient or exploitable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Everyone always does things in their own interest.
        Helping others might be your interest. I like helping others, if someone asks me about technology or programming I try to guide them in their research. I share all my code as well.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's exactly my point. You help them because it's still in your interest.

          If there was something that wasn't in your interest, wou wouldn't do it. In fact, I think there's a bazillion things you *don't* do on a daily basis because it doesn't interest you.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Want to know how I know what color your skin is?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I do want to know how you know what the color of my skin is.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI gays really think they're gonna get paid for their "work" huh?

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They have no real life accomplishment so they choose to hide how they managed to do something that looks nice and post the same exact image one hundred times to the general until everyone gets bored and the only people asking how they did it is a dedicated person that misbehaves for negative attention.
    Luckily most people are decent. It's a sort of take a penny leave a penny deal. I show someone how to inpaint faces good, somebody shows me how they managed to get nipples to poke under fabric.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's a new discipline and the prompts are the creative property that is worth protecting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arguing creative property just opens the door for AI devs to get a court gavel up the ass. AI is trained using other people's creative property.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >creative property
      This idea was always a farce.

      Arguing creative property just opens the door for AI devs to get a court gavel up the ass. AI is trained using other people's creative property.

      and this. That "creative property" is derivative of other peoples property.
      So it's like stealing from bank robbers.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wait so the guys who are mad at artists for not wanting their shit stolen are... hiding their prompts in case someone steals it? am i getting this right?
    imagine having the ego of an artist but not the skill. how pathetic.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People are happily using an AI which was trained on copyrighted content without any permissions from the artists and yet have this weird sense of ownership of the stuff the AI creates because they came up with a good prompt. It's bizarre.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Considering that everything is still in an infancy stage, I image most prompts are quickly going to be obsoleted as the models get updated.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because they think theyre artists

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      every man is just using this to create their perfect waifu

      anime creators should be worried

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No kidding, I've been at it for 5 hours straight doing nothing but drinking beer, generating images and reading prompts.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          my bro, i've been generating redheads non-stop for the past two weeks. I've never been happier

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            is that someone making REDHEADS? call hollywood, we need them replaced

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao
      go click some buttons in your digital camera you hypocrite

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      in this case the real artist is the computer, giving stable diffusion a prompt and calling yourself an artist is the same as giving an artist instructions for artwork you want and taking credit when he's done

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shitskins desperately trying to cope with lacking the soul necessary for creation
      try as he might, he can never redeem whiteness

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. They're going to start claiming they are equals to the Dutch masters (etc). Of course using technology invented by whites once again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I spent 1.5 hours, therefore it's art

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We are reaching levels of delusion that were previously thought not possible.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >spending 1.5 hours of something is an effort
      We are losing knowledge at breakneck speed if people think a little over one hour of trying is admirable

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is how artists innovate. This is how they refuse being replaced by the AI and instead wrangle it like a steppe-warrior taming his war horse.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So how long till AI will take over art industry?
    Few years or few months?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >industry
      Given current technology? Several years, industry moves slowly and the software still isn't idiot-proof.
      Given technological progress in the next few months? Hard to predict, but at a minimum it'll make artists that pick up new tools a lot faster, allowing one person to do the work of 10.

      I hope someone will build something that'll help animators to crank out more frames per hour while maintaining a consistent style. That way anime production will need less labor and become more scalable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the ai is still struggling with hands, feet and faces
      a lot of the examples you see are people who have upscaled the image and painted over the mistakes and imperfections.
      also it cannot generate high res images yet and the higher res you go the more obvious little mistakes become.
      it'll be a while, if ever. there's quite a few unsolved problems in AI generated compositions that end up making it cheaper to just hire an artist than some sweaty gormless technbro.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Five years max but in the next year or so you are going to see heavy pressure being put on artists as people figure out how to be consistant with generating art. If you are creating some generic, gacha fantasy video game then AI generated art would be perfect for that use case.

      What is never brought up in these discussions is what insufferable cunts graphic designers/artists are and how many people would rather have a substandard product (AI generated art) then actually work with one of these people.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hiding prompts
    in video games there's already replays hiding culture
    people just showing their fastest speed run, or highest scores without videos so their strat can't be analyzed and copied
    those people simply just afraid of competition tbh

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I remember people hiding the skill bar in mmo pvp videos

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am fairly sure this is just super autist people who are just passionate about the tech right now
    they'll settle down, i don't think anybody knows what the monetization model is going to look like for artists who solely use SD

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is pure brainlet cope
    Why are you not more excited about discovering it yourself?

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    aaand already you gays are as insufferable as artists. Full god damned circle.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because you could spend whole days with 3-4 hours of sleep refining a specific prompt designed for one specific thin. The gambling nature of "rolling prompts", long hours of trial and error, and and the final reward of finally achieving your goal makes proompting feel like actual hard work.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Because you could spend whole days with 3-4 hours of sleep refining a specific prompt
      how slow do you type? honest question

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me how you can't make shit worth a damn without telling me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >long hours of trial and error
      do you retards actually just sit there waiting while it cranks out images
      just make a list of slightly varying prompts and run them all while you do something actually useful

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad he's dabbing on reddit gays like you OP

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because they're grasping at straws, trying to make some part of the art piece their own.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Art lol. I just use it as a self-help tool

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hell yeah game of the year

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks sick

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a way to chunk terms? It's frustrating to have adjectives get put on the wrong subject. I've tried quotation marks, apostrophes, commas, semicolons, parentheses, and I'm not sure what else.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because they're fucking gays, that's why. it's pathetic as shit that all of these people are going out of their way to make fun of shitty tumblr/twitter artists because they're being replaced, and then IMMEDIATELY turned around and started acting like pretentious art snobs. like, don't get me wrong; i certainly do believe that AI art is art, and i also think it's funny that twitter "artists" are getting buttblasted, it's just lame to see the people who are replacing them take on all the exact same snobbery and bullshit that made the tumblr and twitter art world so fucking insufferable in the first place.

    my grandfather was a fairly famous artist, so i was exposed to quite a bit of the art world since childhood, and one thing that's very, VERY different from the "high-art" circles and the people who post on twitter is that internationally renowned artists all love sharing their techniques, teaching, writing, and helping people understand how to make better art. the people who are gatekeepers about it are almost always shitty retards who everyone hates.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      exactly.
      they immediately fell into the egotistical artist bs when the entire reason they supposedly claimed was that the ai would prevent this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yep, thankfully it doesn't really matter because it typically only takes a half an hour or so of fucking around with it to get it to produce what you want, so even if they are being obnoxiously protective gays; they're hardly "protecting" anything.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          prompt?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            sexy frilly (anime), (alphonse mucha) lacy (satin gown), wavy fluffy hair, ((blush)), (yoji shinkawa), (mignon), ((shoujo manga)), (kusanagi_tonbo), (sophie anderson), (flowers), (midriff), ((volumetric shading)), (princess), ((art nouveau)), ((sparkly eyes)), ((bloom)), (alexandre cabanel), (soft skin) (airbrushed), ((pastel)) (oil on canvas) (garden gnomeelry) (earrings) ((blue hair)) (cute) (holding bouquet) (embarrassed) (Anders Zorn) starry, (necklace)

            and in the negative:
            (head_out_frame), extra_limbs, ((bad_anatomy)), flat, cartoon, photo, photorealistic ((oversaturated)) hands
            ((uneven)), ((asymmetry))

            you'd be blown away by how much just changing the hair color will give a radically different look to a girl. SD is insane how it immediately figures out complementary colors for the entire composition

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              is that the syntax? is there a way to do that with multiple subjects?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I am new to this. Which tool/website do you use this prompt on?

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT
    >I lack imagination and refuse to do research
    There's dedicated websites for you shitters

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Half the fun is figuring it out, It does help to have references of what works and doesn't
    1 Write a sentence describing your scene
    2 Tag an artist(s).If you want a general style vs a specific artist's sytle. I recommend adding 3 names. Go to artstation find a artist that roughly has the look you're going for if you don't know any names.
    3 Apply art style you want Illustration by artist, line art by x,
    4 add adjectives as tags
    5 Technical additions, types of camera, types of lens, rending software, game engine.
    6 types of lighting,
    7 reference sites, cgsociety, artstation, pixiv etc

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    god i fucking hate those ai fuckers
    just cryptobros 2.0 at this point

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they upload photos and make money from them. Why share them?

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you mean it's like creating art but instead of photoshop you textshop? lol, yet again it turns out ai is a tool, not a replacement.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Prompts are actually the only thing most people have to feel proprietary about, since the artwork is a combination of the model (they did nothing) and the prompt (something they actually did). It's the only place their egos can feel validated. Personally I will release every halfway decent thing I find because it makes us collectively better.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that is one plump prompt, you lucky man, you.

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    he's not wrong tho

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Spending a few hours trying to close in on the one image that looks like what you're going for our of the hundreds of trillions of latent space images is creative in it's own way as you're battling a system that has zero understanding of what an image even is let alone which tiny few of those images are somewhat aesthetic. Without the human end of the equation it would take longer than the lifetime of the universe to randomly find the one good image.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He just used his brian

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Midjourney wants me to sign and and give my phone number? Oh fuck that. I hope lighting strikes their lab and blows up everything they've worked to create.

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was clear as day that even if Artists become deprecated you'll still need "prompt composers".
    Once this becomes deprecated you'll still need people who will work with whatever abstraction follows that simply because most people like being helped and by a real person and not an AI assistant

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you'll still need "prompt composers"
      Until someone clever trains a language model to write prompts for you.
      I give it a year before you'll be able to conversationally interact with an image generating AI, describing what you want plainly and then iteratively telling it to adjust something if you don't like the result.

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At a certain point, prompts really don't matter when you're using img2img on it several dozen times while tweaking the words with every iteration.

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They need to feel like special snowflakes

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine hording prompts when the way this shit works will probably be changed within a few months anyways.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can generate variations with dalle2. There is a finetuned version of SD that does the same. No prompt needed, just input an image, and it generates variations.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I post my prompts with my generations
    I like photography, dabbled professionally a few years. but lost all my shit in my divorce, like that bitch will have any clue what to do with my Japanese glass... oh well. I find dalle interesting to try and create a photo I have in my minds eye. I also like a little painting and drawing but suck, dalle is fun to experiment there.
    while I'm sure someone will leverage these tools into money, the same prompt generates different outputs or am I mistaken? why hide the prompt?

    in the end ai is just photoshop with different ui

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because some prompts have value. And you wouldn't be shitting, pissing and creaming yourself to get them otherwise.

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