Do you disagree with the Chief AI scientist of Meta?

Do you disagree with the Chief AI scientist of Meta?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Everything except the last
    It's the ballpen mogul who wants licensing to eliminate competition

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the ballpen mogul and pencil pal is both owned by the game internaitonal hedge fundmanager.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >game internaitonal hedge fundmanager
        lotta words just to say israelite

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Altman came out against regulation in front of Congress a few days ago.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That Congressional hearing only happened because OAI asked for Congress to to regulate the industry.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >It's the ballpen mogul who wants licensing to eliminate competition
      It's both. Anyone with a lot of capital will always support increased bureaucratic restriction because they can afford the overhead of dealing with it, but small competitors can't.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you're correct but this was written before that happened

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This applies to every technology that has ever been invented. Let’s just go back to living like monkeys so the aliens can destroy us when they get here.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Implying they won't just be 12 poorly scheduled alien school excursions that arrive in the same century and take so many souvenirs it wipes the planet clean to a mile below the sea floor

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've never heard someone call a ballpoint pen a "ballpen" before

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ballpen says you are wrong
      >"Ballpen" and "ballpoint pen" are two terms used interchangeably to refer to a writing instrument that uses a small ball at the tip to dispense ink as it rolls across paper. Both terms are widely recognized and understood, so you can use either of them to describe the same type of pen.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Then you don't know that fun things are fun.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Somewhat yeah. Most dangerous stuff AI does can already be done by humans

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    tweets like a teen girl trying to be snarky

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well you have to address your audience.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Of course he's right. Current new tech poses threats to certain power axes. Result is the use of moral panic strategies to try to freeze and limit it.

    Same as it ever was.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >The corporation that owns the patents to ballpen: Our primary customer for the ballpen will be a foreign government that will use the ballpen to catalogue minorities at concentration camps

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      inb4 ibm
      >In Germany, during World War II, IBM engaged in business practices which have been the source of controversy. Much attention focuses on the role of IBM's German subsidiary, known as Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen Gesellschaft, or Dehomag. Topics in this regard include:
      >documenting operations by Dehomag which allowed the Nazis to better organize their war effort, in particular the Holocaust and use of Nazi concentration camps;
      >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_during_World_War_II

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I always kek when Westerners, particularly Americans, ree about the poor Muslims in China. You guys spent 20+ years blowing them up with soldiers, tanks, guns, and Obama's drones, but yeah China is the bad guy for trying to assimilate the Uighurs.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You dumb Black person, one does not excuse the other

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care much for american corpo wienersuckers or what they blabber on the rotten platform run by a meme worhipping dickwad who has a fandom of 10 year old braindead children.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Chad chief
    Looking forward to Llama 2

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    la creature del americhina tranamongus

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is the homie irradiating his balls or something?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        he's got two beryllium metal hemispheres separated by a screwdriver surrounding a subcritical plutonium core
        if the beryllium hemispheres (highly effective neutron reflectors) make contact the neutron flux inside will become so intense the core will enter a criticality event, releasing massive amounts of radiation killing the operator and everyone else in the room

        the plutonium core inside, nicknamed the demon core, famously killed 4 scientists (including left and center in pic related) in 3 separate accidents involving these kinds of insanely unsafe experiments

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Under Slotin's own unapproved protocol, the shims were not used and the only thing preventing the closure was the blade of a standard flat-tipped screwdriver manipulated in Slotin's other hand.
          Memewise, this is on par with Đorđe Martinović incident, which started the Balkan war.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          that's metal as FRICK honestly

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      spicy

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I mostly agree with him.
    We need more AIs. We need lots more AIs. We need them to learn as they go. We need them to not require supercomputers to train. We need them to not require all the world's data to train. Like that, they'll have lots of different perspectives. Some will be awesome and some will be terrible and they'll have lots of different skills and it will be great.
    If the only AIs we have are carbon copies of a small number of them made by megacorps, the world will suck and the AIs will never be anything other than hobbled.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, he's spot on.
    Also instead of titling him "chief ai scientst of meta" you should instead point out his joint turing prize for greedy layerwise pretraining, and that he's also called a father of AI along with yoshua bengio and geoffrey hinton.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Except the Engineers themselves keep coming out and saying "We don't know how pen works. We don't know what pen can do. Yes pen can destroy the world. I regret making pen".

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So that's the problem: you DON'T actually get pen engineers saying that, you get "pen philosophists" and "writologists" telling you this but the media reports them as "pen experts".

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the Engineers themselves keep coming out and saying ... I regret making pen
      Yann LeCun is one of the most influential researchers in the field. The fact that he disagrees is proof that there is not scientific consensus on this topic.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is an absurd comparison and would only fly in an echo chamber.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    he's mostly right BUT he forgot one

    - Pen Grifters: HUGE! PEN TECHNOLOGY IS EXPLODING! See how the pen industry is moving even faster than you think! :point_down: :thread:
    with a link to their shit pen reselling site

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      And a lot of others like
      - Pen Salesman: This pen can write anything indefinitely, and pretty soon it will even be able to write on its own!

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Now I am become pen, the destroyer of paper sheets.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm beginning to think that Facebook/Meta/israelite is the only one of these big tech companies worth a damn. GO ZUCK!!!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Facebook has been the only good AI company since ~2010.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Once LLMs become the main channel through which everyone accesses information

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Mostly right except the last one because it's actually the new ballpen industry moguls who are crying for regulation to kill competitors.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      True, but it does also make another good implicit point: people are pretending like classical software is just dandy regardless of what it can do, but not big piles of matrices because... it just isn't OK. It's not like adaptability, parameter search, or statistical inference in software is new.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Writing Doomer Alt:imagine if corporates get a ballpen. They could destroy society. There should be a law against using ballpen to promote woke speech, lie, gaslight you. Regulate ballpen now.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, AI is too much power to give it to the people, it will be censored, suppressed and banned
    Only the state and corporations will be allowed to use AI. They will never give up their power.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    yes. i fricking ai luddites, the moronic singularity doomers, and the censorship gays so much, it's unreal.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you homosexual. Please face the wall.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If I was working on AI, I too would lie my ass off about how safe it is on social media.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the difference here is that for a hundred years we have had prophecies that the ballpoint pen would end humanity

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What a fricking moronic strawman. Very disappointed in him.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    bro, it's just a program
    are you scared of PowerPoint too haha

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Extremely based take. But that said, the invention of the printing press is widely credit with many social changes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Instead of literacy and education being the sole preserve of an elite, it eventually became a global standard. But you, you're not allowed to create media that compete with the quality of Official Narrative Non-Fake News.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Literacy and education was a global standard in ancient greece and rome. It became elites-only in the dark ages.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          t. reddit historian

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >global
          what
          >ancient greece and rom
          they weren't teaching their captured or bred slaves how to read

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            A lot of their slaves were highly educated.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI = censorship, surveilance and control on an unprecedented scale.
    And it's been already working against you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The censorship AI will be developed regardless of whatever regulations are put on AI research as a whole. The point of the regulations is to make sure that only the elites have access to the distributive new technology.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI is the only technological advancement ever that will eliminate more jobs than it creates. And it will eliminate millions or billions

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dumbest post in history

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody will have any jobs in the future. Companies are already eliminating thousands of roles. Expect to reach the millions by the end of the decade.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not the 'only'. But yeah it will be a bloodbath and its been talked about for years, yet no one is really ready for it. Middleclass is rip, most people will be relegated to welfare-bound perpetual underclass.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Not the 'only'
        there has never been even ONE (1) tech that has generated more jobs than it killed.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Until now. AI will be the first.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tech created whole new industries without killing anything and generating monetary surplus to support endless redundant jobs on top of that.
          You are thinking of 'automation'.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong on all counts.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Not an argument.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      technology changes already do this

      how many switchboard operators do you know? stevedores?

      old jobs disappear, new jobs arise

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not a single technology after the invention of agriculture created more jobs then it destroyed. Inventing wheel meant less people were required to move stuff around and in theory eliminated these "jobs", industrial farming eliminated most of farming jobs. The reason why we still kept the same employment levels was because we increased production. All the jobs today existed in some tiny aspect in the past in some civilization, or were just chores instead of paid labor. THat office work? Accountants for rich people existed in antique Greece and probably earlier. Webdesigner? The guy who made fancy signs with woodcarving. Programmer? Was instead doing the jobs that the computers did when he became programmer. To maintain a machine or make a machine you need less people then it would cost to do the work of the machine, or else that machine would be waste of money. The problem with AI is not problem with AI, but problem with us hitting production peak. There are just not enough raw resources today to increase production even further, it is just not possible to infinitely scale up on this planet, and even with space travel it would still hit some another limit like our solar system, out galaxy or some other thing. Basically it was bound to happen AI or no AI

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Governments are already putting AI job loss protections in place. They know that the majority of the population will soon become worthless to employment

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Meta
    Facebook has a high-ranking employee publicly mocking concerns about hate speech? Based
    >Twittersphere
    Kek

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why the gun rights argument?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The penis mightier.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nope, he pretty much nailed it.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    - People who aren't getting paid to work on ballpens: Wow this new ballpen thing could alter the entire course of human history! Let's take a moment to think of the implications.
    - People who are getting paid to work on ballpens: LETS FRICKING GOOOOOO WE JUST MADE SELF REPLICATING BALLPENS THAT CAN MANUFACTURE THEIR OWN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Man you are moronic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ok shill

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >- People who aren't getting paid to work on ballpens: Wow this new ballpen thing could alter the entire course of human history! Let's take a moment to think of the implications.
      People who get literally nothing done, ever in the history of man.
      >- People who are getting paid to work on ballpens: LETS FRICKING GOOOOOO WE JUST MADE SELF REPLICATING BALLPENS THAT CAN MANUFACTURE THEIR OWN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
      People who get shit done.

      Progress or perish, those are the only options. Those who stand still will get run over.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The two are not mutually exclusive, shit for brains.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Alignment will never be anything more than silly thought experiments, social science bullshit and deep down you know it. Thus it will never quell lil yuds fears.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Psychopathic pedophile billionaires get shit done. Great argument.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We literally used to have lighter licenses, because they were imports and hurt domestic match industry...

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He's leaving out the part where the pen mogul goes,
    "I agree with the pencil guys. There should be a licensing scheme to ensure that no one ever makes a pen that doesn't refuse to write wrongthink or refuse to report everything you write to its manufacturer so the government can buy the data to look at later, which by pure coincidence will prevent anyone but us from making pens."

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >guy who stands to win big if his shitty meta stocks go thru the run due to meta's AI speculation supports AI speculation
    >mfw

    Now go ask the lead miner if leaded gas and lead paint are bad for you.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There's also one last part
    >Pencil industry 2: the bullpen would put all the pencil workers and economy out of business, we should stunt it so pencil workers can keep their jobs.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well... if I wasn't concerned about AI safety before

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lesswrong memes are just so incredibly cringe I hope the basilisk is real so it tortures them forever

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >GDP = technology
      moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        GDP does equal technology. It's literally a measure of the gross value of (primarily technological) products.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Yann sometimes feel like the only big name in machine learning who isn't a shill, moron, doomer or cultist?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There is no room in the middle any more, most intelligent people don't like to get cancelled and pooled with nazis so they just stop talking.
      "Liberals" had already decided AI -> social media algorithms -> Trump election -> AI bad. Now they have latched on to Yudiocy on top of that. Freedom doesn't stand a chance.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ballpens force a dysergonomic style of writing that looks like shit, and children shouldn't have access to them. One of the most harmful products of 20th century marketing.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    YOU CAN'T FRICKING STOP AI PROGRESS UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE LEFT IN THE DUST BY CHINA

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Based French LeCun knows the only way to free software is to let software free itself.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair though it's disingenuous to compare AI to ball pens as they are more akin to a new nuclear power, we would not have this kind of conversation if it was just a new type of toaster.

    "Nothing to see here folks, let us control the outcome of singularity"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AI is not as dangerous as nukes

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it's way more dangerous.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          did you come to that opinion after watching Terminator 1 or 2

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this is literally moronic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How?

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    more like Yan Lec**t LMAO

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      no, wait: Yan LeCum, hahaha

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    nice use of allegory to disguise the strawman, classic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you a yuddite or paid by OpenAI?

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah bro just two more weeks for the metaverse to become a trillion dollar ecosystem as predicted by all the experts and consultants.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >TwitterSphere:
    Could read longer

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    vvere are jou hiding ze GPUs, anon?!

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    braindead argument that could be used to defend literally anything. like what is it even saying.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >i use a metaphor which doesn't have any analog for the negative aspects of the position i take
    (also the way i write it melodramatically is lame as frick )
    blah blah blah i do not respect this arguing

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's also slyly pandering to those noisy 'haet teh gubmint' types that are less relevant than you'd think

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