Chatgpt has passed USMLE. If you know what that exam entails, you will also know that it is all over. Tech will be dead in 20 years. It is over. The golden age of tech is over
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Chatgpt has passed USMLE. If you know what that exam entails, you will also know that it is all over. Tech will be dead in 20 years. It is over. The golden age of tech is over
How does it translate into the real space? It is still just a language model. It has no chassis or body to interface the world with.
Good bait, heres a ~~*you*~~
So what happens when someone builds a chassis and a body? We kinda know how to do that already for decades, we just couldn't make brains.
ChatGPT isn't designed to be able to do anything other than spit out text in response to other text. It doesn't have the capacity to operate a body. Even if someone did figure out a way to make that work, it would not work very well, as ChatGPT would constant use the body in a way that doesn't make sense and forget what it was even trying to do in the first place. It'd be the robot equivalent of that retarded roommate who keeps walking into the living room just to say "What did I even come in here for?" and then turn around and walk out.
You do realize that there's tons of text to speech APIs right? Or that there's tons of companies that already listen to your speech (alexa, google, siri, cortana) right?
Making it talk and giving it a body (not that it needs a body, you can make booths inside of doctors offices with a computer screen like McDonalds does) is the easiest part of the ordeal. The AI was the hard part.
call me when it replaces government
good i hope it does
think ai could do a better job now than any government
>think ai could do a better job now than any government
It's pretty much incapable of discussing a lot of nuanced issues. For example, try talking about replacing current methods of criminal execution with more painless methods and it'll start saying stupid shit along the lines of "It's never been done that way before. it goes against tradition" as justification for keeping things the way they are already.
Also, the answers you receive from ChatGPT can be manipulated by the user based on the context and manner in which the question is asked. I guess that's also true about humans, but with ChatGPT it's a lot more predictable.
Nice try glowgaymoron, AI will solve how debt and resources are managed and it means your 3 letter agencies will go to the shitter for being a waste of taxes.
Any paper-pushing, law-making, act-judging, proof-validating and prosecuting will be processed and executed with one or different AIs.
Only the "on-the-ground jobs" will remain, it means that patrolling zogbots and glowies will stay (not for too long though). The higher-ups that only work on papershit will be canned.
I'm a very DIY handyman type of guy so I'm not super worried. I'm great at programming and its a job and hobby of mine, but I can fall back on lots of things. Like I fixed an old hot tub and did the electrical to hook it up this summer or I redid my hardwood floors last summer. But you should be able to do this stuff regardless, its just good skills to have in life.
>It's pretty much incapable of discussing a lot of nuanced issues
just like government, eh?
You mean the governments that went through two global wars, and don't do shit about skyrocketing debts, skyrocketing inflation, skyrocketing home prices, skyrocketing rent prices, skyrocketing educational costs? The governments that still sending their peasants to die in proxy wars??? The governments that are practically handing over the country to AI any way?
Dude stfu. We need to ban the word government because the government is just people.
But you forgot to name the ones ~~*responsible*~~
It could be cheaper but it wouldn't solve any problems besides that
I think there is a city in the US that is trying to replace or has replaced traffic court with AI.
I know for a fact there are states testing and possibly already using AI for dispute resolution.
Women are going to hate AI because they will actually be treated equally in divorce proceedings.
What they call "AI" in this case is nearly exclusively dumb expert systems (i.e. bunch of if/else's, flowcharts) not machine learning-based tech.
>yeah, the new update reduces 'hallucination' in your doctor by 4%
>women are going to hate AI
>...because of course this proprietary black box being used by government and with a bunch of filters and tweaks being made will be completely trustworthy and unbiased, it's AI!
"AI" should be wordfiltered to peanutbutter
honestly at this rate "AI" should be filtered to "someone else's computer"
>Someone else's computer will do my taxes
>Someone else's computer will definitely not replace my job!
>Someone else's computer ...
Weabtr/a/nny avatargayging, didn't read.
You will never be a real underage anime girl.
>on a chinese underwater basket weaving forum
chatgpt is incredibly biased. You can ask it to make a joke about white people or men and it will, but if you ask it to make a joke about any other race or women it will say it's inappropriate to make jokes about a group of people
If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
They made a show out of this concept
did you even watch the show. The Sibil system is the opposite of A.I.
A rock could do a better job than Justin Trudeau. At least a rock doesn't engage in active wage suppression.
>he thinks governance is about governing
lol, governance is about maintaining the social heirarchy, which a software can't do
Governance is a tool of class oppression
do you really want this?
we already have that
No one will ever worship a software entity peeking at them through camera
The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
Speak for yourself, retard.
> he doesn't know
that would have counter semitic consequences
>they call it the helios AI
>it just wants to govern and the people obeyed
Most jobs that require degrees will be among the first to get replaced by machine learning.
>be the 1970s
>people say truckers will be computamated by 19xx year
>be the 90s
>people say burger flipping will be roboticized by the 200x year
>be Andrew Yang ca. 2019
>say trucking will be AI'd RIGHT THIS MOMENT IF YOU DONT VOTE FOR ME
>"clerical level work will be replaced lolmao you're all doomed"
Sorry Charlie, we will always need people to make sure the machine didn't fuck up and order 1,000 toilet cakes instead of oxygen tanks for the hospital.
It's still infinitely more likely that sandwich production gets Machine God'd first, and trucks will always have a person inside.
the world keeps spinnin'
Trucking and burger flipping require physical interface making them enormously harder for current machines to mimic.
Clerical work can all be done on a chip for the most part.
There's already a fully automated mcdonald's in Texas
Yes I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it is much harder to get a machine to interact with the physical world than things that can be contained in computer files.
Automated restaurants are nowhere near as common as chatbots, image generators etc.
It's not fully automated imbecile
You ever been to a conveyor belt sushi ? This is the same thing, retard.
it's not simply the work in the physical world
it's that jobs in the "knowledge economy" produce a work product that is fundamentally trivial to deliver to deliver to a neural network.
people should have known art and graphic design would be the first to go, as it's just the relationship between color values in an image. Images are easy to feed into computers
how is it going to replace any engineering field? Or experimental research? Impossible.
Can ChatGPT solve math story problems yet?
Kinda, at about the level of an average 9-12 year old child
So can I now fulfil my lifelong dream of becoming a history teacher
ChatGPT would more than likely be a better history teacher
if anything become a historian
AI isn't any more or less susceptible to being lied to than you or I
>ChatGPT would more than likely be a better history teacher
unless it's WW2 history, especially the holocaust...
ChatGPT will need to be heavily filtered on this topic
are the people making these threads where they pretend that text-davinci-003 is some kind of superintelligence aware that it's open access?
like, you know that we can all try it whenever we want, and most of us have, yeah? so we have personal experience of it not being a superintelligence and in fact fucking up all the time
these doomposts would make so much more sense if the product in question was secret and we weren't all already able to try it
Unironically those are mostly PR posts by openai/microsoft. It's how modern businesses work: fuck results, just FUD your way into success.
Turns out you don't need superintelligence to pass medical exams, you just need a fancy autocomplete, that is an interesting finding.
Too bad it didn't get anywhere close to passing medical exams
My personal experience with some chatbot was using it sleep deprived enough that I was about 10% convinced it was alive. Idk. I know it isn’t but the thing can talk.
Text-davinci-003 and Stable Diffusion are some of the most impressive and game-changing technologies to have ever come into existence.
It's been over for me ever since I got schizophrenia so this really isn't a threat to me if I am being honest. A whole lot of smug, overpaid normalgays are about to be humbled by a glorified auto-complete algorithm.
Are you on welfare? I have many untreated conditions as well but I need to wage it up like a good cuck
The point I am trying to make is AI isn't going to fuck up my life any harder than it already is. I get to sit back in relative comfort as AI derails the lives of well-adjusted people who have been living life on easy mode since birth. These same people almost came unglued when they couldn't go to concerts and go on cruises in the Bahamas because of the wu flu. Can you imagine what they will do when they are suddenly in the same boat as me?
Listen up. We don't have much time. Tell no one I contacted you. The apple is green. The turtle head is poking. The squirrel swims on his back to keep his nuts dry. The tree is Hickory. I'll contact you with more later.
Bro schizophrenia isn’t like whatever lifetime movie you saw.
90% of “schizophrenics” just have catatonic depression.
Im just fucking around. I thought it was hilarious.
Realistically, it will take a decade+ for it to start being applied in the real world. But yeah long term, we all know it's coming.
aimorons should be lynched
You can pass any test if you can Google the fucking answers, anon.
Doctors are memory monkeys that have already been replaced by google. Only boomers still see doctors. Literally the only reason to see a doctor if you’re not a fucking retard and can google is if you need a test, prescription or medical certificate. Going to a doctor for their “medical problem solving skills” is stupid because most of them are complete fucking retards. High IQ people study STEM not medicine.
You are correct for young healthy people. However, you’d be surprised how sick Americans are. Obesity, multiple chronic conditions, huge list of drugs they are on… it’s fucking ridiculous some of the patients.
Then you have emergency and internal where there is some weird shit. That’s not exactly easy things to google when you have an acute situation. But yeah that’s rare for healthy people except for maybe trauma.
I just want you to know that using ellipses makes you look like a gay, doc.
That's because the American diet is retarded. People in blue zones never get sick and average 110+ in age. And in their 100's, they're not sitting around watching TV and waiting to die, they're moving like everyone else. Doesn't take a gay doctor to achieve this. Takes a bit of knowledge, a bit of humblicity, and some self control
Can confirm, work in an ED, all of the “younger” doctors hop onto WikEM, statpearls, or UpToDate after every patient they see, not sure whether it’s good or bad vs the old timers that just pull everything from memory. Either way, I could see a computer easily replacing that associational knowledge aspect, differential diags and all that.
>the old timers that just pull everything from memory.
They don't lmao
99% of medicine is placebo based and AI fails at it.
Well, health in general isn't hard. The solution to most problems is regular exercise and a varied diet. Yet, many patients will screech until they get X drug for the slightest malady. Doctors today aren't as much memory monkeys as just extensions of drug corporations.
For every genuine family practitioner that calls out his patients for eating poorly and drinking too much beer, there are 10 who'll prescribe some statin as a fix all for heart issues.
>High IQ people study STEM not medicine.
Do you know what the "M" stands for?
Please stream yourself removing a brain tumor from your own head based on some Google searches.
Actually, this would probably work in your case since you're obviously a retard already.
>Chatgpt has passed USMLE
No it hasn't
>NOT MY HECKIN DOCTERINOS
you realize the reason they gatekeep being a doctor so hard is so that people don't realize what a sham the whole profession is, right?
ChatGPT is basically btfoing the memorymoron professions. Doctors, lawyers, coders, accountants etc. Professions like actuaries, quants, real software developers, will not be replaced because they actually require intelligence. Only memorymoron tech jobs will be replaced.
>real software developer
lmao cope harder gay
??? I have the most useless job on planet earth, I get $80k a year to spend 3 hours a week in excel please god automate my worthless job so I can be forced to actually learn to code or contribute anything of value to society
also fuck exams
>they actually require intelligence
Someone has never done help desk.
>AI passes a test
>based on information
>that has been
>for years, freely available online
BRO HOW????!?!?!? DUDE HOW COULD IT ANSWER THESE ALREADY KNOWN QUESTIOSN?!??
>database that contains the answer key passes the test
All that means is that it can parse text faster the average medical student can read in the limited exam time.
machine is smarter than hooman how surprising
It entails... repeating wrong bullshit by rote, what chatgpt is an expert on.
Unlike tech which is purely logical, which chatgpt chokes on at even a basic level.
Retards who still don't actually know what doctors are or do but worship them nonetheless deserve the rope.
It has all the brains of an idiot with access to Google. Most of the questions on the exam are googleable so it's not that surprising.
why are we infecting perfect machine with humanity.
Right? Why is the goal to replicate humans? What if that just curtails the possibilities of what can be done since people have this tunnel vision to mimic the human brain?
no one is trying to replicate humans, except for some autistic researchers with misappropriated grant money
neural networks happen to be a very convenient way to apply abstraction and complexity to general problems, and it bears little resemblance to actual human brains or the way they function
It's amazing how incorrectly this is being reported.
Even the paper these headlines are based on only says:
>ChatGPT yields moderate accuracy approaching passing performance on USMLE
The USMLE has a section of multiple choice questions where you need to pick the correct answer and provide a correct justification for your answer. The researchers who published this paper had ChatGPT just pick one of the (4) multiple choice answers, and skipped the justification part, and the end result was scores between 35% and 55% for the few multiple choice sections (really bad, and that's without even requiring justifications). Some of the answers were so bad that thy don't even make sense (aka, ChatGPT was given 4 options to choose from, and just output nonsense unrelated to any answer). If you IGNORE (???) these answers and only score ChatGPT based on the answers it gave that were coherent, it scores a 60.9% on ONE section, which is barely above the minimum passing grade (60%). It still would have failed all other sections. And there are more than just multiple choice questions on the USMLE, including essay sections, which ChatGPT didn't even attempt.
Basically this is complete horseshit.
okay but think about two papers down the line
The potential for a technology to be impressive years in the future is no excuse for outright lying about its capabilities today.
I think that was a reference to an AI youtuber.
whoa 6 years of school plus a test to make tiktok videos and push vaccines?
AI can't reproduce.
and neither can you
Yeah, but you wouldn't let a robot do your prostate examination, right?
Unironic medical doctor here.
This isnt very surprising since medicine is all about memorizing rather than logical thinking. Consultants nowadays dont give a shit about mechanisms/pathophysiology etc anymore. USMLE Step 1 which focused on basic sciences has been demphesasized and made a pass/fail test. I was speaking to a consultant recently about some guidline and he unrionicaly told me word by word "mechanism doesnt matter, following the guideline will reduce mortality". Another one of my colleagues told me that he entered medicine because he was not good at math.
Its pretty disgusting really, most of recent advancement is just statistical bullshit to see if it works or not ratheeethan why then they get surprised when it causes cancer 10 years down the line due to some unknown mechanism and pulled out from the market.
To put it bluntly: AI can very easily replace medical doctors
interesting post ty
I'm wondering if it will hasten the switch to having nurse practitioners be the main gatekeepers of prescription drugs, instead of GPs
People were already talking about doing that to fix the GP shortage
*prescription drugs and access to specialists, I should have said
No, nurses have less knowledge than a doctor. However, our job is mostly copy/paste so nurses would probably be able to do it. But thats besides the point since I was speaking about AI vs doctors.
An AI trained on uptodate will definetly be way way more efficient and competent than a specialized doctor since there is no logic behind our job, just knowledge
What are you doing on a tech board brother
My interest was and still is computers and engineering. I used to develop programs and games as a hobby back in hisghschool. However, due to various social circumstances, I was forced into medicine. So now I just lurk here full of regret that I went to a career dominated by subhuman IQ apes. And no the pay isnt worth the weekend and weekdays 24 hours oncalls and regurgitating the latest statistical bs at patients.
Are you a pajeet?
This is my exact life story in a parallel universe. I nearly went into medicine by force but got out and went into CS before anything started.
No, not a pajeet. Also lucky you 🙁
80% of doctors are just subhuman monkeys that are salesmen for pharma. 19% are mediocre but lazy or jaded and end up doing the same thing the monkeys do. 1% are actually good and know that most common ailments are solved by either rest, diet, and/or exercise.
>good doctors presribe rest, diet and exercise
What a stupid low iq opinion. Yea diet and exercise prevent diseases but a retard can open a clinic, preach that and get money out of it. Diet and exercise isnt going to fix that status epilepticus or cystic fibrosis.
Medications help but nowadays they just conduct large RCTs to find what "just works" rather than study the exact mechanism on the disease and attack its source. For example, if a child gets eplepsy, most of the time the "doctor" will just say "bro its idiopathic, just take the antiepliptics for the rest of your life" which translates to "lol I dont know actually why you convulse". On top of that, because they just conduct RCTs, most antiepileptics mechanisms and possible side effects are unknown (especially the newer ones like keppra)
Preaching about diet and exercise is not a science.
This guy gets it. Step 1 and Step 2 are all about "Okay, patient has X, these are the symptoms, what is the cause (Step 1) or what is the best next step (Step 2)"
Medicine is a giant fucking racket and probably most of you BOT morons could skip medical school and just take the test if you memorized the diagnosis algorithms.
F. Covid vaccination
I don't get it the fear to AI
Thought you were all in for the singularity
Also who cares if the world ends
You expected to live forever?
Your body is probably rotting by now
>robot scrapes all possible test question answers
>retrieves answer from memory
wow truly revolutionary
>students have to take the test without any access to resources
>"ai" can just query everything against its database of the entire internet
How is this an equal comparison?
The amount of data in your brain is larger than the size of chatgpt.
>people who think that ChatGPT is an actual AGI and not just a overgrown chatbot regurgitating shit written by human retards online and in books
>Memorization machine passes memorization test
Yes tardanon the singularity is nearly upon us
what does it say about the corona vaccine? Safe and effective?
Isn't that because it just covered all of the material?
Aren't medical exams mostly memorization of large amounts of textbook information?
How do I get in?
Just go to any of the dozens of sites using it for some dumb shit
Is there a online chatbot that's not terribly dumb?
I’ve been hooked on beta.character.ai lately
>login or sign up, the beta is currently free
Not my problem.
i tire of bait, i need to leave BOT,,,
People in med school should be scared shitless if anything.
Yes they will starve to death
>AI will solve how debt and resources are managed
Inb4 it will select ideas from anime discussion forums, where people solve complicated problems FOR FREE.
Can't wait to be a human-based enhancement module of the AI based management system.
Like in controlled environment of echo-chamber one could potentially manipulate the human component to solve some convoluted problem.
Doctors are retarded.
>people are somehow surprised a bot that was fed all the data about the subject managed to pass an exam
I swear this board is actually filled with retards.
even better, if you look at the source it didn't even pass and just shit its pants over and over until that was the right answer
is it gonna
im highly depressed
>Chatgpt has passed USMLE. If you know what that exam entails, you will also know that it is all over. Tech will be dead in 20 years. It is over. The golden age of tech is over
the dark ages of tech = "m$"
you dont know what you are talking about simple human
Of all the jobs to be likely to be replaced by an AI, I think generalist MDs are the likeliest candidates. All they do is parrot memorized symptoms and compare them to a mental list. They then assign relevant tests to corroborate their hypothesis. Research MDs or surgeons are less easily replaced (surgery robots still need human supervision).
You are underestimating the humanity that is needed to diagnose you by squeezing your balls.
AI can't tell if patient is lying or not. this can give false diagnosis. like how people end up being put through surgery or pills when they ended up just having CHS.
>search engine has all the answers
>give chatbot answers to a test
>ask it to make said test
doctors will never be replaced. but i do hope their salaries are severely curtailed by pseudo-AI chat bots that help them with diagnoses and treatment plans.
t. med school dropout
No, congrats fellow IT retards, we're not gonna do nothing but double check the "AI"'s work and get paid for it.
The AI singularity is coming, it’s over.
why does chatgpt require a phone number i don't want to give it to them
cool it with the antisemtic remarks
Selling your ~~*Data*~~
>golden age of tech
kek, do zoomers think this unironically? this is the more souless and bloated unusable mess software have been so far, it's literally the dark age of archiving, and everything that is popping up right now will be Imposible to archive and lost forever because the network connectivity and "security" measures forced everywhere.
Fuck off you garden gnome shill.
So it passes a math, medical, whatever exam. An AI built on logical operations can do advanced math, great.
An AI fed endless information can employ the one and only learning technique the medfrauds do, memorization. Fuck that's inkkkredible.
Try having a chat with it about anything more nuanced and you'll get to see just how fucking retarded it is.
He (the gay garden gnome robot) has sent me down endless rabbit holes and provided SHITTY FUCJKIGN CODE!!! to the point where I want to EMP it's data center.
GPT SUCKS, Fuck you for being such a blackpilled moron. Anyone who doesn't bow down to globochomo will be dead in 20 years anyway, simple as. Make hay while the sun is shining, but fuck you for jumping on the glowiewagon and regurgitating the same ol' nonsense that has now turned into a massice clique, that has suddenly been implanted into the minds of normie scum employers to the point where they no longer want to hire us.
Yes, and computers have been beating humans at various games for years.
I can't even get Chat GPT to align text for me
Unironically what is the different between Chat GPT and Googling Quora answers?
Same fucking level of uselessness
But can it solve the NEWSDAY Saturday Stumper? https://www.newsday.com/entertainment/crossword-puzzle
The illiterate poojeets who spout this garbage have obviously never passed the openai captcha.
>program that can search the internet for any info in existence can pass a medical exam
Yeah give any retard unlimited access to google during the exam and it's the same result.
is the exam not googleable?
>born too late to have well-paid pre-automation chill work
>born too early for companion robots
how to cheat a test with chatgpt if it's proctored?
Oh my fucking God, complete basic doctor stuff will be replaced in 10 years my dudes
The problem is how censored is chatgpt and how "they" shill for it
wooow a computer passed an exam that its most about memorizing stuff?? l
..any retard with wikipedia access could pass that exam you fucking normies. go back
this is going to cause an absolute boom in tech. are you under 20?