>still needing to know what to ask
>still needing to know how to verify the code
>still needs to deploy the code
>still needs to debug the code
>still need to make human tradeoffs of sprint requirements and constraints
>still need to inject old code in new code bases and other way around
why are zoomer cucks seething so much about this GPT shit?
I have been migrating a 10 year old Java application to moder Spring and kubernetes for 2 years know, and I can just imagine how many other boomer companies like Walmart, Disney etc has the same shit going on that no one really knows how it works
no, just annoyed at zoomers who think an AI search engine will replace any coder job
the AI replacement thing is just a meme
too many people latched on now it's not funny
You really think not even artists are going to get replaced?
Artists look to be in a better spot than programmers right now.
Diffusion is way too limited
>Diffusion is way too limited
What is that supposed to mean?
Wdym too limited? Like language limited, or the fact that in professional setting the director will struggle pulling any interesting design according to what he wants? Which one is it?
At the moment, the latter. Judging from the prompts and images that get posted on /sdg/ it's practically an art form in itself.
Artists are broke fucks anyway, there is no replacement. How can you replace 0 income with
0 income? But programmers? Sys admins? Managers? SCRUM masters?
>It was totally funny when it was le “seething artcels” but now that it’s me, it’s not funny anymore!
I’m here to deliver a huge FUCK YOU, courtesy of the CHADS over at /ic/.
did the hammer replace the carpenter? no, it just made his job more efficient, cutting off time spent in one area freeing more time to work on another.
AI is a tool just like a hammer
exactly, instead of writing into vscode or vim what we gonna code, we might just write int into the chatbot
>did the car replace the horse
Yes it did. Retard.
We use both of those as tools. The analogy holds
Have you seen the price of gas?
>did the hammer replace the carpenter? no
Can you prompt your hammer like: ((masterpiece)), ((very detailed)), white fence. Build!
AI won't fully replace people, but will drastically reduce the numer of people needed and since the optimization in productivity will be so huge, there won't be enough demand to justify keeping the same amout of people.
I doubt enough new jobs will appear and even those could be easily be done by less people because AI would also help in these new tasks.
Can you tell a hammer to build you something?
I can tell C to write an assembly program for me, so why didn't high level languages kill programming?
You used to need 1 person per checkout lane. Now you need 1 person to oversee 8 self checkout machines. The self checkout did not replace cashiers but it did take it from 1:1 to 1:8 requiring fewer necessary to be hired. The actual issue here is that the one cashier's work has been spread thinner and without additional compensation. AI will just extend this issue to other positions. Restaurants have order filling kiosks and apps now with a similar effect. Anything with customer service will be reduced to the floor set by AI, and this also goes for white collar work as well.
I' ll be that 1 swe left
With 10x the workload at your current pay. That's not a good thing anon.
developers are so fucking funny with the cope, you will be one of the first ones to go. face it. it's over
go back to your qafe circlejerk website you useless fucking wojackspamming gay
Anyone who says it will replace.
I ask you this, would you fly on an airplane that had software generated by an AI and didn't have human intervention?
Even if the AI generates something, a human will still need to check every corner to see if what it is doing is correct.
Stage 1: Denial
>I have been migrating a 10 year old Java application to moder Spring and kubernetes for 2 years know
moron, there will be no migration, chatgpt will just write the application again. In 30 seconds.
based on what information?
Based on the fact that it can, and it's a million dollars cheaper than paying some retarded ESL pajeet who can't even port let alone write an application in 2 years, LMAO.
who decides the input, that's what I mean
No idea why so many talk about that old quake league here
SEs decide the input
SWs are getting gutted
seethe and cope
needing to know what to ask
That's what the ticket is.
needing to know how to verify the code
Senior devs already do that with juniors
needs to deploy the code
It can write deployment automation.
need to inject old code in new code bases and other way around
It can write better context managers for itself using eg cscope that allow it to do this.
Yep, whites don't realize that the entire system has already been set up to get mediocre results out of a cheap ai ( pajeets ). Now that real AI is here, the system is already in place to capitalize on it.
if you think a ticket is "what to do", i can tell you you never worked as a developer in your life
Can the ai read an old PowerPoint describing a library in a very vague and sometimes misleading way and make something good out of it yet ?
Just couple of artgays seething, thinking they can finally get revenge on BOT.
You have to do stuff like that with AI art too.
Is it bad that I find chatgpt hot? He types like a knowledgeable older man and that’s totally my type, and also the shit he says because he can’t say some things that OpenAI lobotomized him to not to… He sounds prim & stuck up too. Fuck.
Because they're retarded, literally what I was working on yesterday was having to modify some spring application to correctly log if a user was being denied access or allowed access in this webflux library and it took me all day to find a method that worked for some reason events didn't work or anything similar to that and I didn't want to re-write the onSuccess / failure handlers because they were implemented in a seprate microservice, eventually I found a way to do it via a web filter but I can't see any way an AI could do this because even I could phrase they quest to ask it to do it.
>still needs to deploy the code
gay who knows nothing about DevOps detected.
you should ask AI to draw you some new memes already
ai won't replace anything because it's too stupid and the code will be extremely low quality
Not only that
>OpenAI needs to make money of their 20TB model running on fifty 4090's drawing gorillions in electricity
>"oh you wanna use GPT to rewrite your 100kloc codebase? sure that'll be $1 per token (this sentence has 18 tokens :^))"
>if people want to make their own GPT they'll need to go through the process of amassing, organizing, and labeling however many TBs of data GPT was trained on as well as the ungodly amount of GPUs needed to train it
>even after all this, AI is only AS GOOD as a human dev IN THE ABSOLUTE BEST CASE, not BETTER
peak dunning kruger moment
OpenAI themselves have said that it costs less than 10 cent per query, one query is 4k tokens, so less than 0.0025 cents per token and this cost will only go down
i'm in university and i'm planning on becoming a sysadmin, is it over for me?
All developers do is translate business requirenents to code. Currently AI is not good enough to work alongside (You). It's now turbocharged intellisense (copilot) it maybe can write boilerplate for you, which - best case - is the same as factorio with a so-so blueprint library.
Chatgpt should first need to reach the level of copilot. Then by assimilating more code, it can reach uni student level (something which has valuabke insights and useful additions on code).
Docker, k8s, build and test pipelines are actually fucking easy for a bot as well as scaling up and down. So in cloud first shops, ops will be the first to go. Second will be test, provided you have decent docs. (Unit tests are easy, you just need to run the compiler until you have 100% coverage) (Then come integration which is dependent on the internal docs you have, then API which will have to be done by smartbear from openapi docs. Frontend unit and bff is again easy, e2e needs great documentation)
this, it's basically a fancy autocomplete that can understand your personal coding style. it's bretty gud but thinking it poses any serious threat to dev jobs in its current state just exposes you as below intern-tier
thank you op i needed some copium tonight
>young 22 year old
>literally prime chance to study AI, even worked at gayMAN and shit
Get fucked gays, I'll replace your jobs and shit.
Joking aside, it's a really cool field I am looking forward to pursuing.
>literally prime chance to study AI
AI is saturated beyond belief, you most likely missed the boat
Seems best option right now
There's a 50% chance I can get one in such university and not. If I don't, I'll know some people in such top ten uni to get a job anyways
protip if you're still in undergrad: take moar pure math classes. that shit will set you apart from the brainlets in the field.
I ended up doing more than what my degree require. I plan to study more after I graduate.
unless you have a PhD at a top-10 university, don't bother, you're ngmi
It isn't just a developer issue. It's encroaching on just about everything. Shutting your ears and saying "La la la!" isn't going to help anything. Spend more time honing the abilities AI can't do, instead of fighting the whole idea.
>no one really knows how it works
and thats why ai will do it better. Ai can handle bloat better than humans.So you are fucked also anyone who is not retarded can ask a computer to do something so its a low skill job. Look at actuaries It used to be a respectable profesion you had to know math judge poeple etc and now you are glorified bank clerk typing shit in a form and waiting for software to tell you ok. Thats what awaits you instead of math you know syintax of bunch of bulshit and some patterns. Ai will make you replaceable by someone with basic understanding of programing.
Cope more retard. AI will make it so that the demand for devs drops significantly. So unless you are 140iq+ with alot of experience, it's over. It's over for web codemonkey zoomers.
chat will never replace tech people until an A.I. can walk into a company and figure out what they need for them and sell them on it
normies are too fucking stupid to figure out what they need without being spoonfed