Can an AI be taught to solve puzzles?

Only 60 people in the world have solved this puzzle. But they managed to do it because they were intelligent. If AI is an artificial intelligence, could the AI also solve this or any other puzzle without using brute force methods like computers normally do?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah but this is something that you can just solve with a constraint solver once the rules are properly encoded. Like just put this shit in prolog and let it run. That's what the field of AI was like some decades ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But if you're just going to run a brute force search, that doesn't require any intelligence. And the AI is called an intelligence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is not a brute force search if it takes into account all the given constraints during the search. And by the way how would you even define an "intelligent" solution to such a puzzle? There is no magic element to intelligence that makes you just know the solutions of puzzles without any reasoning behind it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Regardless of whether you use a brute force search or not, you're still taking into account all the constraints of the puzzle am I right? Because otherwise you would not have a unique solution and you would possibly end up with a wrong solution.

          "Intelligent solution" would be a solution which you were able to find as easily as possible. That's how I would define it. Something like picrelated as an illustration of my point. A dumb person would use the quartic formula or something to solve the equation in a complicated and robotic way. But a more intelligent person would realize that the problem can be reduced to something simpler and solved in a much easier way. How would you program a computer to do something like that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            is "there is a unique solution" part of the clues/puzzle?
            >How would you program a computer to do something like that?
            It depends. A constraint solver could start by listing the amount of possible numbers according to the current state of the puzzle, then start with the one that has the least number of possibilities (i.e. I see at least 1 square that you can fill in right at the start and know for sure that it's correct). But for some puzzles you can't know what's the easiest path to the solution without actually trying many solutions.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Only 60 people in the world have solved this puzzle.
    That’s because only 60 people have tried. It’s an easy puzzle with no intellectual merit. If you want a real puzzle then do all the Advent of Code problems!

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Only 60 people
    *61

    That was trivial.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you in picrel?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anon0

    Are the people who claimed they solved this puzzle actually only using their brains, or just using their brains to write a computer algorithm to do it for them?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gib link

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://app.crackingthecryptic.com/sudoku/Hf9QqQMD7J

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mmm, challenge accepted. will post solution if/when I get it

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it. It seems like A should be 1 or 2, and B should be 1,2, or 3.

    If B is 3 then that forces a "region" of size 9 (WLOG the blue region in pic). But now A has to be 1, and its own region is stuck between the purple region of size 9, so A's own region must have size <9, contradiction.

    If B is 2 or 1, then A must be the opposite, and we quickly get a contradiction based on regions as well. This exhausts all cases, so there is no solution

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If B is 3 then that forces a "region" of size 9 (WLOG the blue region in pic). But now A has to be 1, and its own region is stuck between the purple region of size 9
      Why couldn't the cell a itself be part of the region that a points to (i.e. the purple region in your diag)?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why couldn't the cell a itself be part of the region that a points to (i.e. the purple region in your diag)?
        Because if A is in region N then those are in region N+1.
        >not true
        Yes true, because the same number cannot appear twice in that row.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          d'oh, forgot the basic rules of sudoku while focusing on the weird shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If B is 2 or 1, then A must be the opposite,
      not true

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why couldn't the cell a itself be part of the region that a points to (i.e. the purple region in your diag)?
        Because if A is in region N then those are in region N+1.
        >not true
        Yes true, because the same number cannot appear twice in that row.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If B is 3 then that forces a "region" of size 9 (WLOG the blue region in pic).
      >But now A has to be 1
      says who

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >WLOG
      blue region could contain all 3 cells right of “B”. this changes everything. retard

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "AI" doesn't exist. You can count on it that some corporate chimp is going to train a bot to solve this kind of puzzle at some point and declare some kind of imaginary victory, but no existing or even realistically conceivable iteration of current technologies can deal with this without being specifically trained to.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm confident I can solve that, but if a solution is already public, I'm not interested.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. How do you know that only 60 people have solved it?
    2. Is a solution already available? If so, this puzzle offers nothing to the intellectual flexer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's from here
      https://logic-masters.de/Raetselportal/Raetsel/zeigen.php?id=000BD7
      but when I follow the penpa+ link the UI looks different from what's in the OP

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