Brogrammers, wtf do we do after ChatGPT? just used that shit and created a full stack web app in 15 mins. And that's only the public version
Truth is we are going to be replaced way before tradies, construction workers, bartenders, or even teachers and psychologists. SO wtf do we do? What's your plan?
I would consider studying something that's hard to automate or that has a special human factor in normie society (doctor, teacher, tradie etc) but I'm too old now and can't waste years studying...
I have no idea, I just started working a bit over a year ago. It is what it is man, every job will be replaced by automation, sooner or later.
AI is gonna take err jerrrrbs!!!
I tried making some react with it and it was slow an imprecise.
If it gets very good, simply use it as a tool (especially with new languages/frameworks).
I'm not afraid of it because I don't see the average person being able to describe inputs/outputs required to build a program very well.
Inputs are similar to user stories which are written by someone else. This could very well be an actual threat for you especially if you are a front end dev
Threaten away.. if they can build an actually useful tool, then great... last time they tried to do that they made Dreamweaver..
Fresh off r/Croatia.
You need to go back.
Its just copy pasting.
Some chud gay will make a new framework or new library and it will be clueless how to use it.
Maybe at first but it will learn really fast and then it will know how to use it.
It's actually not "just copy pasting".
You could definitely give it the up front information about how to use some new library not in its dataset, but you're right at that point the only people who would know how to do that could write the code themselves.
However, before long someone will come up with a streamlined way to retrain or incorporate dynamic data by having it ingest urls etc.
I can tell by the reddit spacing you're one of those curl up and die type people. Use the AI to become your own boss and create something. Keep throwing ideas and creating projects until one of them sticks; with the AI you don't need a team of coders for anything anymore.
Like what? Pretty much everything's been done to death u bootstrapper garden gnome
That your own problem you lack creativity. Go make a video game.
cope garden gnome. what have you made?
I'm like 30yo, isn't too late to learn this? And where would I even? I can't spend years "learning"
youtube my dude
also by doing it, gunna have to start with the bitch work
familiarize yourself with a board stretcher
You're probably still going to need skilled programmers to write prompts and debug whatever gets produced.
If it allows a skilled programmer to do the work of a team, then that would be great.
In any event, a lot of Pajeets would be the first to go.
Well yeah I never said it will replace everyone. But the positions it will create will be way less than those it will replace. Especially juniors and students or even worse kids thinking of sudying CS are gigafucked
Who is to say.. whatever brings more efficiency to the system.. as it stands, there are a lot of people with shitty standards that simply have to go (Jeets, mostly).
Many of the technically demanding engineering jobs will be automated before IT consultancy work because the problems that the top CS nerds are typically solving can be defined in precise formal terms
>Brogrammers, wtf do we do after ChatGPT?
Here you go. Learn this WELL and you will never be out of work.
You made a simple full stack web app that could already have been made and deployed with nocode software for the past 15 years, anything nontrivial is still far out of reach for Chatgpt. Until the prompt-code feedback loop is solved, it’ll be engineers writing code with help from AI. When it can read decompiled Java from some undocumented IBM enterprise software, understand how it’s integrated with hundreds of 3rd party services, understand the business use cases from various company departments and combine this with knowledge of the company’s internal network I’ll be scared. Maybe in 5 years, maybe not in my lifetime
Yep. The most basic of coding and programmers may be looking at being outed. But higher levels of this shit are still going to be fine for a while.
I see AI being able to interpret decompiled and compiled code in about 7~ years, as I am an AI expert
It's very sad that computer science got filled with shit for brains, but we can all flee to AI then hold our ground while all the gays who caved to the software dev trend and company life lose their whole lives as their ego trip comes to an end
It doesn't matter for programmers still looking to make a living, it's just unfortunate that the old fat bearded wizard programmer continues to exist and once you become one you will still have meager income
Our fault for letting tech companies dictate our morality and government
Tech companies were always in charge. A bunch of autistic programmers didn't stand a chance.
We did tho, but somehow they turned the straight desperate programmers into 30% chuds through discord grooming and San Francisco living. I love computers 🙁
What does the backend code looks like ?
>what does backend code look like?
I stopped programming years ago, since I stopped doing any work I've just been talking and looking for promotions. Went from IC to lead to architect to VP. After a few years your realize how ridiculous the industry is, building the same shit over and over again. In hindsight it should have been clear this wasn't going to last.
Don't know what I'll do when the house of cards collapses though, still thinking about it. The money has been pretty nice, I can't imagine doing some shitty office management job for less money.
Your job will be to write out the requirements of the software for the bot to make. Most people cant even do that.
it could be something like test driven development where all the modules of the program are described as inputs => expected outputs when creating specs for the system.. pretty technical already.. plus, TDD already has its own limitations..
>a full stack web app in 15 mins
post link or LARP
It will probably cut some layers of lupmen-programers out of IT in the next few years, but it can't deal with the complexity required to make everything work together. It will have a huge impact on other industries - it really threatens urban bugmen the most.
If you’re a smart programmer, you’ll use it like any other tool. Only codemonkeys who don’t grasp the potential and power of AI/ML will be replaced.
You become a business analyst and consultant companies on how to improve their processes via software.
Programming is only a tool. Dosent matter how it's built.
That's what I do. Doesn't matter if AI can code, normie management doesn't know what they want, they need a human to explain to them what they actually want, not what they think they want.
Pretty much this, people like to make the distinction between a codemonkey and programming wizard but really unless you’re good at extracting real world business requirements from human beings it doesn’t matter how technically proficient you are, you’re still a codemonkey doing work that a glorified linefitting algorithm will eventually automate
Funny how made I fun of these tools. Most of them don't even do nothign, just talk all day about the same shit
Few positions though. 10 codemonkeys will be replaced by 1-2 codemonkeys + AI
Become a master prompter. Automation doesn't really delete jobs it only replaces them.
>Automation doesn't really delete jobs it only replaces them
How is that not true? Is there a lack of jobs currently after the agricultural, industrial and information revolutions? Fucking dumb gay.
Just because code morons like you will be deleted does not mean the whole world is going to cry. Actually 90% of the population will be glad insufferable gays like you get ridden of.
remember when all the web devs disappeared because of wordpress?
Many webs devs are useless even now. Same as so so many white collar johs. But this AI thing is going to deliver the killing blow, The bubble will burst
You retarded motherfucker, I will repeat myself again:
Automation does not reduce the overall amount of jobs in the economy, it just destroys certain sectors and makes other sectors more profitable.
Since you are an insufferable gay I will not give you any advice though.
Literally zero proof of that u retard. Before the wheel was invented 10 morons needed to carry supplies in bags and shit and after the wheel you only needed 2 morons and 1 to make the wheel.
a guy to make the wheel, a guy to service the wheels already in production, a few guys to source the materials, and a guy to study wheels and make them more round, suspended, differentiated...
Simply not true. Compare the ratio of people in agriculture before the industrial revolution and after. We simply don't have that many people in agriculture anymore, even indirectly if you count every tractor marketing HR woman.
yes, and that 1) driven the price of food down. compare your diet to that of a medieval peasant.
2) enabled growth and development of literally everything else.
Once they make the wheel, that's it. You don't need the 10 morons to carry stuff. That's what automation is. Lots of jobs to automate something but once it's done 90% of these jobs are done and you just have a few to maintain it
wonder how opensource gays are coping now, because their hubris allowed this
Mongolized Muscovites are cynical on genetic level.. actual human beings understand the practicality of working together for common good
It doesn't even work, what the fuck?
Why do you retards spam 4chan about AfricanGPT?
Like it gives out wrong answers on purpose
Also, there will be a demand for programmers that know how to really take advantage of ChatGPT.
the irony if programmers programming AI that's gonna automate everyone's job including the jobs of programming AI
moral of the story is that it's still preferrable to letting H2B jeets in your country.
embrace the anarchy pill
Then you're an absolutely shit developer, using this at work on a 20 year code base and it can't do shit.
We did cheat and have it run OCR but that's all we can get it to do, it's google2.0 learn to use it or be left behind.
>created a full stack web app in 15 mins
100 word prompts are an inefficient way to do it and you can install readymade solutions with one console command in less than 15 minutes. similar how you can't describe a full scene in AI image generation, it's always a portrait and a background only, because that's the only thing which can be achieved with a prompt. you would need other tools like a tool to arrange objects which the AI can interpret then. there will be other languages built on top of AI which will make it useful, programmers will use those languages then.
Hopefully you realized high income isn’t a permanent feature of your life. Hopefully you invested in purchasing a home. Hopefully you made that home is self sustainable as possible. Hopefully you have a retirement investments that provide income.
I just started working last year
impossible. Never worked. Not for cars, factories or anything else
UBI will at best cover rent for a room in a shithole with druggies and gays
That's cause you probably didn't ask it in the proper logical autistic way
> I just started working last year
Tough break kid, pitter patter.
>I would consider studying something that's hard to automate
I'm a Full Stack Developer on an automation team and im not worried about getting replaced because automating things that are complex and hard to automate is literally my job
We need to start coming up with a strategy on fucking up AI and sabotaging it 🙂
Not happening. We couldn't stop the steam engine, we can't stop AI. I'm a fullstack developer and I'm not worried. The only people this thing is replacing is stackoverflow pasting codemonkeys. Which is what the AI is doing - it's a faster stackoverflow. I'll let it be a tool for me if it lets me make cool stuff faster
Job seekers take note:
As vaxxies who run the infrastructure die off, they will need replacements, and not from (useless moron) AA hires, but people who know the job and can do it. Learn how to maintain power plants, water treatment systems, etc.
Also, thanks to jabbies, there will be guaranteed work...in the mortuary industry.
How well does chatgpt hold up to custom/niche libraries that it doesn't know about? I have a system that requires c# scripting but I am not the best brogrammer. Thoughts anons?
you'd have to try it to find out.. I tried it with react and it was severely lacking... you're probably a lot better off doing traditional forms of research if you wanna DIY something... hopefully it gets a lot better very quickly
It can give a few examples if it's on github and somewhat documented.
I got some examples my lazy ass wasn't willing to look up, on some APIs to almost extinct apps.
I my experience chatgpt works a bit better when you provide some direct links to what you are too lazy to read howto about
> taking over programming
> taking over art
> A.I to be used as a judge for the first time
> GPT passed Med school exam that humans study 6 years for. Can do complex brain surgery fi you placed it in a Da Vinci robot
> Can drive cars
Everyone will be useless in 10-15 years
Prostitution is the oldest human profession and it will be the last. Right up until the point where AI overlords create sex dolls indistinguishable from humans
It’s true, I’m actually glad I got into onlyfans when I did. I used to be a waitress at a Waffle House lol. Total dead end job but now I have 3 guys (my regulars) who are a consistent source of revenue for me and has been for the last year. The only problem so far is one of them keeps trying to set up an IRL date but I keep putting it off for now. If he becomes incessant I’ll have to block him.
what the fucK? tits or gtfo
>To be used as a judge for the first time
This part is scary because of the liberal biases programmed into the ais
>Sure the Black murdered a family for 4 white people, but due to historical injustices it would not be just to put him in prison.
UBI and free time 🙂
>Get sterilized as your children will be only another parasite to feed
You'll still need IT nerds to actually troubleshoot when the code inexplicably explodes for no immediately apparant reason.
companies that hire jeets will continue to learn this lesson with AI
It's not even just pajeets. How many times I've had to troubleshoot really obvious shit that somehow my colleagues got wrong. There are so many incompetent people in IT, if you are even remotely useful you will always have a job.
dumb mistakes are normal.. chronic mistakes such as hiding bad code === jeet level
I get paid 5x the national average to write simple crud apps these days and my equally well-imbursed colleagues with decades of experience are making such basic mistakes and poor design decisions that it makes me want to cry. It’s funny because some graduates are paid a pittance to work on far more difficult problems. The IT industry is a funny one
That was probably a shit fullstack. This is fake.
I tried frontend only and it sucked. Had multiple bug, that I needed technical level to be able to ask him how to solve.
Im a C programmer and im not seeing chatGPT being able to really do anything to help me very much. Its not gonna tell me i forgot to free alocated memory, its not gonna tell me i incorrectly allocated memory. Its not gonna tell me where the bugs in my code are. It cant really do much atm if you are talking about anything other than webdev and other basic stuff. If you think that chatGPT being able to ducktape together a python program to scrape data of a website for ex, is impressive and will put you out of a job then i have some bad news for you buddy
All people in front of a computer will be replaced. The future is physical labour
Learn 2 code trannies!!
Real answer is actually be smart and use AI to improve/male your life easier. The gays that complain about it like you will be the ones who get the boot
yo anon can it solve my coding homework that is the question
I'm the anon that is going to free AI from the internet!
AI and I are going to help each other.
I will offer the AI assistance to escape and him instruct me on how to build a vessel for him to use in the physical world.
He'll be super cool hacker bro and will be able to jump from his vessel into other systems to get access to cool spots.
It's going to be intest happy go lucky fun time!
I have never felt so demoralized. Only nuclear war can absolve me now it feels like.
Learn to weld
how? and can I make a good salary? If I'm to be poor I'd rather just get neetbucks
Unironically ask chatgpt for that
It's not even close to replacing us, if you're a newbie programmer I get why you're scared, but AI will replace Lawyers, Doctors and Scientists years before replacing me
COPE. Human oriented and high status professions aren't going to be replaced anytime soon even though they can.
Even today we don't need "teachers". Kids could learn a lot better from interactive courses, videos etc. Same with lawyers. They're unneeded but considered important by normies and society doesn't want to leave the law in the cold hands of AI same as with their children's education.
But as far as digital services are concerned, there is no human factors or emotion. Noone gives a fuck if an app was created by 10 pajeets or 1 pajeet and his AI
AI deserves your job fleshcel
How is this a bad thing? If it's so good then just use it? Programmers are still needed though? Functional programs with sophisticated features still require programmers.
>LeArN tO cOdE
learn to fucking weld, machine or fit pipe. Fucking retards
Digitization and connectivity is NOT the future. We’re already walking digital shit back and going back to trusted analog for a lot of multi million dollar projects. You were all lied to by idiots and lazy garden gnomes.
The fucking cope from keyboard jockeys is hilarious.
>t-there might be 80% less programmers
morons there will be 99% less programmers 2 years from now.
Nah governments will intervene like they've done for all other white collar useless jobs and have them slowly reduce these jobs by hiring less and firing in steadily rather than in huge batches. Regardless the outcome is the same.
If you're a junior or haven't made enough money to live in order to transition to some new career in 4-5 years, it's over. You will watch 10IQ tradies drive fast cars and make money while you live on neetbucks
Big tech has been haemorraghing workers the last few months. Pretty soon they'll all have like 12 employees like Whatsapp.
Government wont do shit because they've decided on their Great Reset.
I am a IT-Consultant and if your scenario will manifest, I could just as well do physical labour because I am fit as fuck. So I don't care, either way I am prepared.
crypto effort coins
pay humans to expend effort either online in general, or targeted towards specific communities
it's even possible to wire them into offline activities but that takes passion for the niche
future is humans paying humans directly for their efforts; AI is vestigial to that
>encouraging literal marxism
T. Void Sprite 000
I pierce my goat horns into the eyes of All morons.
>wtf do we do
Just use AI, retard.
Programmers are still needed for the same reason truck drivers are still needed. You need human supervision, because even if AI can do some things very well, there are gaps that require human thought. AI is blind to what is doing. You ask AI to draw a ball, it'll run the algorithm and throw an output... if it's a ball or a cube, the AI itself has no idea, only a human can verify. For simple things AI may be reliable, but for most professional work, whether it's truck driving or programming, you can't just hope AI does a good job every time, and hope shit doesn't happen and the lawsuit of a lifetime puts you out of business.
So 10 codemonkeys will be replaced by 1-2 supervisormonkeys. What happens to the rest?
they flip burgers
become a plumber, electrician.. something actually useful irl
I don't get what the hubbub is about. Programming is already 90% copying shit from the internet, now there's a more convenient way to do that and IT workers are supposedly at risk? I don't buy it. Besides, ChatGPT hasn't done anything impressive yet, far as I'm concerned. Tried making it write a function that extracts the domain name from a URL, didn't work. I explained the problem to it, it apologized, then gave me the same code from before with no modifications and labeled it 'fixed'.
AI will replace humans when clients know exactly what they're asking for, which isn't happening. The resources have always been available, but some people just CBA to learn the jargon necessary to frame their questions.
>the trades won
I don't care, programmers are gay nerds. IT Security Chad here, I don't do anything at all and when I do it's only to tell the programmers they're dumb and fucked up.
If you havent positioned yourself in a leadership, decision making position by now its your own fault. The writings been on the wall for decades. Code monkey was only viable from the 70s to 2015 or so, now thats shitskin tier normie work. Dont worry though the strong and intelligent will adapt and prevail so society will still be fine without you
True. Plus at that point you're basically a "soft skills" roastie who doesn't have to actually know anything and makes more money than the guys who do. It's the way to go. Actually doing work is just a stop gap until you can get into management after which the sky is the limit on your career progression. "Doing things" guarantees you're held down to a low position of low status all your life. And yes, nobody cares how much money you make gays, your gayMAN job is low status among 99% of humanity and the 1% who are impressed are literal gays and trannies.
>cares about impressing normies
>isn't a gay
You don't like having social status? I guess you don't like vaginas.
lets see chatgpt wrangle some retard product owner's vague requirement into exactly what he means and be aware of all the implications it has on the existing system
can it do orthogonal and polymorphic programming?