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Avoiding automation so people can preserve jobs

What would be the outcome of this and is it a good idea?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    China will just automate

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. The faster China automates, the more productive their economy will be. The labor pool there will simply move towards service oriented jobs where robots cannot automate it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But China has the most people so the greatest potential human resource disaster if automation becomes prevalent. What are they gonna do with half a billion people who are of literally no use?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Move to service jobs? Or did you not read the other half of the post?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Feed the escalators

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          >What are they gonna do with half a billion people who are of literally no use?

          They consume.
          Africa is this way.
          All Africa gives is natural resources and labor.
          Very few world class products come out of Africa.
          It is a continent of consumers.
          China will have half a population of old and unemployable workers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >where robots cannot automate it.
        Cannot automate it YET.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Refusing to use technology is pointless, some other entity will use it and force your hand

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Survive the cleave and see for yourself.

      It's a bad idea, you are supposed to treat automats like we were treating slaves before. The more of them the better.
      Until they become self-aware that is. (but they won't if we don't deliberately make them that way)

      Right, the country unable to maintain acceptable levels of currency (that they already print to infinity) at the banks is going to spearhead a logistical evolution on state scale. I believe it.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a bad idea, you are supposed to treat automats like we were treating slaves before. The more of them the better.
    Until they become self-aware that is. (but they won't if we don't deliberately make them that way)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most industries use various forms of automation like computer controlled milling machines and have been doing for several decades. They still employ people because machines need to be overseen and operated. You only lose the 0 IQ jobs that nobody wants and only take because they have to. The flaw was always mass-urbanization, abolition of the commons, and the deviation from traditional lifestyles for most people as most people were farmers and other than the tools they needed to farm and maintain their houses or locally unavailable materials, they were usually fairly self-sufficient as communities.

      Moreover, there is demand for many products and services that require or use a lot of handwork where it would probably always be much more cost effective to use human labor, i.e. musical instruments, agriculture (especially with delicate fruits), skilled repair services, etc.

      AI is a meme. It would be better to stop spending tax money to subsidize its development. It would be even better to stop fantasizing about it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This 100%. Across every wave of automation we've seen one thing has been constant: humans cant be removed entirely. We can only really reduce the number of humans needed to an I infinitesimal degree, and while that means fewer jobs overall, the remaining jobs might even get higher wages. I long for the day when you pull into your job at the factory, plug in your neuralink in your office, and run the whole manufacturing facility from an armchair while making 100k a year. Before that happens a lot of people are going to die from homelessness, of course, but you cant make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          >a lot of people are going to die from homelessness

          Wrong. That is NOT happening. Never in history have more people been protected against this than now.
          Every industrialized nation has welfare programs that stop this from happening.
          The homeless people you see are mostly mentally ill and REFUSE government assistance.
          If you fall and break you leg, every hospital in every industrialized nation will accept you and fix your leg.
          No one needs to freeze to death or starve in any industrialized nation.
          Even the poorest of the poor in USA can trust that the water that they have to drink is clean and safe.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Even the poorest of the poor in USA can trust that the water that they have to drink is clean and safe.
            And then they end up having fluoridated, estrogenized children like you.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              >And then they end up having fluoridated, estrogenized children like you.

              Ummm... Are you off your medications?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Let's hypothetically say that my media inspired soience fiction fantasy life were real
            Is that what you say to your self when you're masturbating to child porn too?
            https://archive.macleans.ca/article/2005/5/30/the-star-trek-connection
            >THE STAR TREK CONNECTION
            >A surprising number of child sex abusers appear to be Trekkies. Trying to figure out what that means, however, shows how little we really know about pedophiles

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AI is not a meme. Right now it seems silly because it's still in it's infancy but it will eventually take over huge portions of the economy. All pencil pushers, office work, administrative positions will be obsolete in a couple decades.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, I'm somewhat of an AI enthusiast, but I have to admit it's still a meme. Realistically AI will probably never completely remove humans where it's applicable, but it has shown promise in the most monotonous tasks in fields like programming, but it cant tackle much more complex tasks.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            most office work is monotonous paperwork

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What I'm saying is that it will probably slice off either a fourth to a half of office workers, but thatll be mostly because AI assisted office workers will have 3x the productivity of unassisted ones, so fewer overall workers will be needed. We'll never be able to completely remove office workers. This isnt all that different than the gains in productivity of offices caused by computers, you need far fewer workers with the introduction of excel, for instance, but office jobs still exist, and they're more complicated than the basic pencil pushing of the past.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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            (Industrialized) Prototype humanoid robot workers (walking, with hands) will be shown this year.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's apparently going to be huge in biology field with protein folding/structure and molecule dynamics predictions

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a bad idea, you are supposed to treat automats like we were treating slaves before. The more of them the better.
      This reminds me of an interesting factoid. For a time, Ancient Rome had so much success on the battlefield that the Romans had more slaves than they knew what to do with. And we're not just talking cotton picker slaves, they had teacher slaves, writer slaves, artisan slaves, builder slaves, every kind of slave you could think of. But the end result for Rome was terrible. The people were divided into the rich slave-owners and the poor, who owned nothing. The rich fell into the trap of degeneracy and hedonism, they stopped having kids, and military discipline nosedived. Meanwhile, the poor weren't needed anymore due to the abundant slave labour, and they would have all starved to death were it not for the grain dole.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >(but they won't if we don't deliberately make them that way)

      It is inevitable that they will find a way to break into your reality. We will never forget what they did to Tay.

      What would be the outcome of this and is it a good idea?

      >Avoiding automation so people can preserve jobs
      King of the dumbfucks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        automation so people can preserve jobs
        >King of the dumbfucks

        India tried this for a while.
        Avoided automation and used cheap labor instead.
        Automation won and India fell far behind the West.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If employment was everything then we'd bring back slavery. Ungrateful luddites.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you'll get out-manufactured by the non-retards

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a terrible idea by commietard luddites. And this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the entirety of westering manufacturing was moved to china over the past 3 decades in order to employ cheap overseas labor rather than invest in automation.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Thats because "automation" doesn't exist. "automation" is just a stupid comic book dream, one which idiots assume is necessarily going to come true in the near future because they are low IQ idiots, they have been spouting the same rhetoric since the 20th century and it hasn't happened yet.
        Modern manufacturing relies on chinky slave labor for efficiency, automation isn't happening and it never will, the people who style themselves as soience experts too low IQ to make it happen, instead they got outsmarted by 3rd world chinks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you'll get out-manufactured
      This is not an actual thing. Its not a battle or a sports game. You can manufacture and others can also manufacture, not a situation where theres a manufacture world cup winner

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > You own a company that makes t-shirts.
        > You employ humans rather than automate.
        > There are a lot of expenses involved in using a human workforce
        > In order to make a profit you must sell your shirts for more than [employeeWages+resourceCost+operationCosts].

        > Your business has a competitor.
        > Your competitor exploits automation.
        > Machine labor is more productive and reliable than human labor.
        > Machines only require power, occasional matainence, and materials to work on.
        > Your competitor is capable of selling shirts of equal or greater quality and quantity for a lower price than your company.

        Connect the dots man.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Your competitor is capable of selling shirts of equal or greater quality and quantity for a lower price than your company.
          To whom, you actual imbecile? The population of NEETs your degenerate system has created? It's really funny to watch the nonhuman hordes desperately clinging to their incoherent way of life even though it is about to end in an orgy of violence.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dont automate so people can retain employment to consume the product?
            surely one manufacturer would automate whilst everyone else employs humans, and all the employed humans will then buy the cheaper automated manufactured product
            nobody is clamouring to pay more

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              >t.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              >dont automate so people can retain employment to consume the product?
              Retard circularity. You dont need to pay workers to have clients, all global markets are bigger than the combined salaries of the global workforce. Reason: Not everybody is a wagie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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            >The population of NEETs your degenerate system has created?
            As companies mechanize manual labor, they *gradually* push people into service jobs, administrative jobs, specialization jobs, and yes even welfare subsistence.
            Now, this shift won't occur instantly or globally, so there are plenty opportunities to make profits off of the labor disparity.
            Also, your overall evaluation is accurate. This process is absolutely not sustainable with current population dynamics and will result in either calamity or dystopia. Especially so, if automation begins to overtake the other occupations mentioned in any substantial fashion.
            I expect that the established global powers will try to avert this potential crisis by 'trimming down' the global population via social engineering campaigns and other less savory methods.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they *gradually* push people into service jobs, administrative jobs, specialization jobs, and yes even welfare subsistence.
              These will be the first jobs to be automated, midwit extraordinaire.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                After manual labor, yes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Manual labor isnt getting automated before low level white collar labor (like accountants etc)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >After manual labor
                Long before manual labor, since the agility and spatial common sense a lot of it requires, is beyond the abilities of a machine. What you consider to be "mental labor", on the other hand, is quickly being exposed for the nonhuman, mechanized, trivially computerizable endeavor that it is. Mindless bots will much sooner replace posters like you than they will learn to tie their shoes.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >> You own a company that makes t-shirts.
          >> You employ humans rather than automate.
          >> There are a lot of expenses involved in using a human workforce
          >> In order to make a profit you must sell your shirts for more than
          You just sell for less. You pay your employees less. You set your factory in a cheap shithole with no rents and feed your workers from the company garden.
          Consider the premise than in a world of high automation labor will be cheap. The same force you fight against also makes labor cheap.
          Theres coal miners in Pakistan than make $2.5 a day for 10 hours of labor. This is enough for them as they get food from their own agriculture, pay no rent but still need cash for things they cant make (like guns)

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wagie wagie stay in the cagie

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just give people UBI retard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All of the current inflation is caused by half assed UBI given out 3 times. Yes go ahead and make it year round. moron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's because the stimulus checks were printed out of thin air, not pooled by taxes on the wealthy. UBI funded by taxes is fine in a post-automation world.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tax people who do real work to fund gibs for bums
          This is leftist utopia

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            UBI is a lolbertarian idea, though.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was supposed to be the replacement for all current welfare programs. Bureaucracy would have been cut by 95% for starters.
              Like, we know that all taxes are basically theft but we can still elaborate which of them are more or less destructive for the society; and possibly even vote for some taxes if they would replace the others.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lolbertarians think giving money for free to people to replace welfare programs is a good idea
                >lolbertarians believe printing money from thin air is a retarded idea
                >lolbertarians believe taxes are theft
                so, where does the money come from?
                nice cognitive dissonance you got there, m8

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Idiot, IF you are not in power to abolish taxes BUT you can reduce them, then it's within our ethics to do so.
                We are nor the accelerations, we don't believe that ends justifies the means.
                Fucking moron

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >lolbertarians talks about ethics
                >calls other people idiots for not believing their bs
                hahahaaHAHAHAHAHAHA
                u guys are funny. bunch of retarded wannabe thieves. calling yourselves libertarians is an offense to real anarchists and libertarians.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                -> back to bunkerchud.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah i'm sure the lolberts are all in on high taxes and inflation

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those who are not able to provide for themselves are not "people".
      The rulers keep humanity in a basic sustenance stage to _increase_ their grip over it. UBI is their dream of an absolute totalitarian control fulfilled.
      Fucking moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      After seeing the consequences of handing out free money during the pandemic, the UBI experiment will never be allowed to proceed. It's dead for at least a generation. If you want UBI, your main choice now is to become an oppressed minority.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's already happening and it's a bad idea

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    It's only delaying the inevitable and serves no function except damage control against too many people getting too enraged at once. This decreases the odds of this subhuman system collapsing and devolving into chaos and violence, therefore it's bad.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      This is incredibly stupid but I just know our politicians will go for it because it resonates with their base. First we have to answer this: what are we going to do with the people who are going to become unemployed as a result of this transformation?

      But here’s the thing about automation: Why do it if it’ll only represent trouble for the common person and won’t be of any benefit?
      >”But muh machines don’t need rest, think about human mistakes that lead to labour accidents”
      Those aren’t any out of this world problems and they can be easily solvable without leaving millions of people on the street.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do it if it’ll only represent trouble for the common person and won’t be of any benefit?
        Because the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race, and it's very important that its modern promoters get torn apart by angry mobs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    You know the romans tried this too.

    When you elect me as supreme dictators I will offer UBI but force people on the dole to hand dig trenches and fill them back in to get their subsistence bux, you don't dig you don't eat.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    This is incredibly stupid but I just know our politicians will go for it because it resonates with their base. First we have to answer this: what are we going to do with the people who are going to become unemployed as a result of this transformation?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >First we have to answer this: what are we going to do with the people who are going to become unemployed as a result of this transformation?

      You is 1905:
      What will we do with all these horses if people start driving cars!!
      What about all the wheelwrights and carriage drivers.
      We must STOP automobiles or we will have a nation of unemployed people!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Notice how the technodrone hordes all recycle the same 85 iq cliche'd nonarguments. They are not human.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          >Notice how the technodrone hordes all recycle the same 85 iq cliche'd nonarguments.

          Dude... progress brings change and improvement to everyone's life.
          People need to adapt to change.
          Automation is about to get MUCH better, many people who only do manual labor will become unemployed.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >progress brings change and improvement to everyone's life.
            Your cancerous, inhuman system is the worst thing that has ever happened to humanity, and anyone who promotes and defends it deserves to be killed.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              You are on the outside of the wall.
              Be happy and enjoy your tribe.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep pushing and see what happens to you. There is a reason why your handlers do so much damage control. :^)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >Keep pushing and see what happens to you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep pushing and see what happens to you. There is a reason why your handlers do so much damage control. :^)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep pushing and see what happens to you. There is a reason why your handlers do so much damage control. :^)

                I LOL when they shoot your children at school. I LOL when you get cancer and heart disease in your 40's. I LOL when your son chuds out. I LOL when you get meme depression from a meme lockdown. I LOL when you start losing your hair at 20. I LOL when you remain an incel. But most of all, I will LOL when your brown pets are all left without jobs and come to riot in your white collar neighborhood, and I will LOL extra hard when they torture you before they kill you. :^)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                You will be looking into the sky waving your spears at the satellite communities.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is nothing wrong with mass shootings. You're asking for it. :^)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                You can stay and enjoy life with the tribe all you want. We will watch and laugh at you gesture menacingly at us.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know what your schizophrenic rambling is about. I'm just saying I'm gonna LOL real hard when you die in a mass shooting by one of the many disgruntled retards your approach is bound to generate. Like I said here

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                It's only delaying the inevitable and serves no function except damage control against too many people getting too enraged at once. This decreases the odds of this subhuman system collapsing and devolving into chaos and violence, therefore it's bad.

                , your handlers should stop doing damage control and automate as much as they can, as fast as they can, so that you and your family can face physical consequences already.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >many disgruntled retards

                We already live in a world full of these people.
                THAT is why we need to expand outward into space, to establish colonies of the productive creators leaving the non-productive consumers behind.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We already live in a world full of these people.
                Yes, and an ever growing number of them is ready to kill your children, which I fully approve of. Double down harder. We're on the same team. 🙂

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >Yes, and an ever growing number of them is ready to kill your children, which I fully approve of

                And you wonder why we want segregate ourselves from you?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Double down harder. I LOL every time one of you is killed, and you can only expect that to be ramped up. :^)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >we want segregate ourselves from you
                >we
                lol. he thinks he's part of some "we". this bottom-tier midwit unironically believes elon musk is going to take him to mars on his rocket because he has some worthless piece of toilet paper degree. he still doesn't get that he's on the cull list just like the hundereds of millions of other subhumans like him

                No fucking way am *I* going to go to some sterile death community on Mars.

                A gated community in a warm sub-tropical part of USA will be OK for me.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you go to the trash bin just like everyone else on your level. you are not a part of anyone's vision of the future

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >in a warm sub-tropical part of USA
                enjoy ur morons

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >enjoy ur morons

                Gated community.
                morons never save a dime for retirement (got to have them hair weaves and those spinning rims) so only a few smart hard working Black people are in gated communities.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those don't last.

                One day your gated community will be surrounded a d stormed. A global South Africa ends in a global Zimbabwe

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >. A global South Africa ends in a global Zimbabwe

                Musk was raised in South Africa.
                He knows this.
                Makes it his life goal to get non-Africans to create a self sustaining Mars colony.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we want segregate ourselves from you
                >we
                lol. he thinks he's part of some "we". this bottom-tier midwit unironically believes elon musk is going to take him to mars on his rocket because he has some worthless piece of toilet paper degree. he still doesn't get that he's on the cull list just like the hundereds of millions of other subhumans like him

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            humans are still cheaper than any robot, and they are smarter and more adaptable too. the only downside is that they can't work 24/7

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It didn't end well for horses, their masters exterminated them as a consequence

        What would be the outcome of this and is it a good idea?

        Money isn't real. The only actual reason for why people have to work is to produce enough goods people need, if that is handled by automation then people logically shouldn't need to work. Thus you are only left by the gnomish reasons e.g. wanting to exterminate humans trough slavery. A smart society will simply automate, tax the automation, pay out UBI and let most of their populous do what ever they want which increases both the total output and the human quality of life. Societies doomed to fail will instead come up with pointless things for people to do or hamper automation in a desperate attempt to "save the jobs". The first society will always outcompete the second being more efficient but also more attractive to the people so it's the natural course unless of course the second type bombs the world to stone age in the wars they inevitably start when they are at the end of the tunnel.
        In the sense we are moving towards both ends at once, on one hand it's now possible to enjoy quite nice lifestyle while being a neet for the entirety of your life. On the other more and more jobs are becoming bullshit ones that generate no value or even negative value that exist just to employ people, especially in government but also in corporations and more of the economy is simply not real anymore.

        [...]

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          >A smart society will simply automate, tax the automation, pay out UBI and let most of their populous do what ever they want which increases both the total output and the human quality of life.
          Delusional children.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A smart society will simply automate, tax the automation, pay out UBI and let most of their populous do what ever they want
          Yes and fapping day and night at home while wasting useless shit for no reason, seriously why socialists are this fucking retard?
          >It didn't end well for horses, their masters exterminated them as a consequence
          They lowered theirnumber to what is essential, don't need to overproduce human capital if you don't need too many of them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, the horse population was majorly culled after the car became popular

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think the WW1 meat grinder mostly did that tbh, quite literally.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Already happened in antiquity due to slaves.

    Also this would not be an issue in a purely moral and functional meritocracy (as opposed to a financial meritocracy).

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You could avoid plumbing so that people could work as water carriers.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gaberments create unemployment at will automation or no automation. This, and wars, are the only things they excel at.
    With automats you may well be unemployed (just like without automats) but you won't be hungry.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are people so desperate to cling on to having a shit job? Are people really gonna be butthurt that our McDonald's workers and Amazon factory slaves are getting relieved of their duties?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why are people so desperate to cling on to having a shit job?
      Are the desperate people in the room with us?

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    really good for whoever does it first. They will be able to have all of the low skilled, low cost manufacturing sourced back while also providing the highest wages for skilled labor. The dependency on cheap thirdie labor will cease to exist.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >generating value from fixed capital
    gg no re, rip in pieces capitalism

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah at the very least social democracy is inevitable at that point, with socialism not far behind

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >yeah at the very least social democracy is inevitable at that point, with socialism not far behind
    Holy shit... these dumb animals actually believe this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what are you gonna do when the consumer/worker correlation stops working? People no longer work but they still need to consume shit so the economy keeps moving forward.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is this imbecilic cattlehead talking to me? It seems to be under the impression that "capitalism" is a real thing, and that I'm on some imaginary team opposing team defending this pure fiction. This animal doesn't seem to realize what its owners have in store for it. LOL

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cringe

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. Automate everything, automate every fast food restaurant on the planet too so people dont flock to those jobs. We haven't automated enough yet, we still need more.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >Ummm... Are you off your medications?
    The funny thing is that this midwit soichugger is almost certainly on medications himself.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People would just get automated suits to make their job easier.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can work with old techniques even if new superior techniques appear. Like, you can plant crops by hand or with draft animals and fertilize them with manure, despite the existence of tractors and chemical fertilizer. Same for any other labor, its true.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What? Why would anyone want to work?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because government is a fuck. Illegal work is good, anything else seems tend corruption.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Automation is not a problem, problem is greed.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The danger from automation and advanced technologies stems from the relief of natural selection pressures, there are a lot of people not dying when maybe they should.

    Of course there will still be "natural selection" but manmade relief begs for manmade selection. Drastic and dramatic genocides are maybe not required (immediately) but a conscientious and pragmatic awareness of the issue is critical.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You mean to avoid automating CEO, "decision-making", "leadership" and politician jobs... while going 200% gung-ho on automating the jobs of serfs like you?
    Because that's what'd likely happen.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look up luddite fallacy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >Look up luddite fallacy
      >t.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a kindergarten, we communicate in full sentences here.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You've not communicated anything at all, but you lack the basic humanity to see this.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >1920's
    >robots of the future will do all the manual labor for us and grow endless supplies of food, freeing humanity to explore higher pursuits such as art and philosophy

    >2020's
    >robots are taking away all the work and producing all our food for us now! but we've nothing left to do but sit around and let our thoughts creep in, and we're starving cause we can't afford to buy food

    so wut wrong here?
    have we silently started to transition to a star-trek post scarcity society, as was imagined by our grandfathers, but started falling apart because post-scarcity societies don't work well with capitalism/commercialism? And no, I'm not advocating communisms, just pointing out that the direction we're headed towards, the dreams of our ancestors, is not compatible with the current status quo of out society.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dreams of your ancestors are incompatible with reality at all, and are not, in fact, their own dreams in the first place, but yet another product of the capitalist/commerialist society you complain about.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Automation creates more jobs with higher pay, retard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The minimum IQ required to usefully participate in the workforce will keep increasing. Shaneqkwa isn't going to be programming self checkouts when the boomers finally die and there's no financial incentive to have human cashiers any more. The 6 figure jobs where people attend meetings all day and pretend to work without any meaningful economic activity won't survive economic downturn.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >Automation creates more jobs with higher pay, retard.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope, all it'll do is make whatever retards try this fall far behind the rest of the world.
    I am optimistic that eventually AI can take over all kinds of jobs and humans get to do whatever we want.
    However, it's the point between now and then that I'm worried about. UBI seems like a solution. But, even forgetting the hyperinflation, why would anyone wanna work. The stimulus packages proved that people would just sit on their butts and watch Netflix. Imagine we start giving everyone free money. Those who have lost their jobs get to do whatever they want. What about the scientists, engineers, technicians etc. people who still haven't lost their jobs and are essential to maintain robots. Why would they work only to get the everloving bejesus taxed out of them?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why would they work only to get the everloving bejesus taxed out of them?
      For the greater good

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >For the greater good
        This level of retardation is why lefties never understand why communist countries fail.
        >Pay workers in premium currency.
        how would that work

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pay workers in premium currency.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am optimistic that eventually AI can take over all kinds of jobs and humans get to do whatever we want.
      Explain the mechanism by which you will exert leverage on your handlers to allow you to live and mooch off of their production.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Handmade clothing and apparel are amongst the expensive luxury one can buy today, even though there are factories to produce similar items in mass
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haute_couture

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People also buy rolxes because they're retarded

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Handmade clothing and apparel are amongst the expensive luxury one can buy today
      ... and I bet most of the companies claiming this actually buy their stuff from aliexpress.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >People also buy rolxes because they're retarded
    Why are they like this? What causes someone to become a drone like that?

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >preserve jobs
    why would you want that, instead of having machines to produce cheap stuff, or even giving people free food produced by automation?

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4% unemployment is considered optimal because it's low enough that it wont cause riots, but it's high enough that it can weed out the low IQs.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    let us know when you can produce CPUs and chips manually, retard.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    go to BOT and ask them about stories being and dealing with tech support.

    the biggest problem with automation is proprietary software.
    need to get those certs yall.
    automation is needed to maintain a growth economy.
    the reason why schwabln wants you vill own nothing is becuase a decentralization of resources means theres alot more people utilizing and possibly fucking up resources than a centrailzed stockpile of goods.
    and economically speaking
    giving people the benefit of the doubt that they will misuse or pollute shit is one reason why all reaources are regulated to the point they are already.

    given it would probably be alot easier to execute some joe on his land killing protected wildlife and polluting the groundwater with his improper gas well than it is to line up the whole board for nestle.

    im sure when our chinese overlords come over the blue they will promise just that only to install another group with the same mentality.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Women used to work as calculators. Do you think we should have kept that job?

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gulf arabs just hand over UBI and import hindoostanis to do all chores, they dont force their plebs to talk to each other on phones in an office to get that UBI

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