Only if we're talking about entry-level jobs. No way in hell managers will be able to describe problems in a detailed and unambiguous enough way for AI to understand properly any time soon. What I imagine is the following:
1) Entry-level jobs - gone
2) Middle-level jobs - gradually being turned into an unstimulating process of watching and guiding the AI model that writes the code for you. Eventually, this would be as intellectually interesting as flipping a burger at McDonalds.
3) Senior-level jobs - virtually all of them will be about machine learning engineering or machine learning DevOps.
My fear is that middle managers who managed to gather the most power and survive and even thrive in an a meritocratic environment even though they didn't and couldn't do anything useful will be the ones who come out on top, and coders will be the ones getting fired.
have you even used chatgpt? it can't code for shit
understandably, since it's just a l337c0d3 and stackoverflow search engine that somewhat understands text
it's at best a more advanced autocomplete for your editor of choice, if you ever try to use it for anything more substantial, you'll spend more time fixing the hallucinated mess than if you wrote it yourself
I have, and that was my exact takeaway. But with the 32k context length of GPT4 and whatever the fuck GPT5 and 6 will be, I can easily imagine it'll be able to put together a smartphone app from a prompt.
> I can easily imagine
good, because that's all it's going to be - just a better hidden hallucination generator
i'm not complaining, in fact i welcome codelets using this tool because, when your shit inevitably breaks i'll be the one your managers will hire to fix it
this meme learning boom is a goldmine for programmers, just like the pajeet outsourcing has been - i 10x'd my salary from codemonkey to "fixing pajeet's java mess" and i'm about to 10x it again by going "fixing pajeet's gpt-hallucinated java mess"
and when meme learning models actually become usable? i will just retire, pajeets already set me up to a comfy life
Somehow i don't think anything will change that much. Since the last gpt release all I've seen was actual drop in quality of questions on a couple of gamedev channels that i monitor.
People ask chatgpt, even if it gives advice they are left with no understanding. People are amazingly retarded. Saying that chapgpt will replace low level jobs is like saying having an internet connection at all times would eliminate stupidity. Oh wait
like 5 months have passed since the first time someone said "codnig will be killed by ai, just 2 more weeks" when will that actually happen? when gpt9 releases?
I'm a midwit web dev so I'm definitely going to be on the chopping block soon. I'll just be a trucker or something like I wanted to when I was younger.
With the collapse of the Soviet Union, any hope for overthrowing the capitalist system has evaporated. Soon the richgays, the social class that can comfortably live from their capital and top level management jobs, will live in their gated communities automating the jobs they don't feel like doing, while the rest of society struggles to survives and see their neighborhoods filled with crime and homelessness. Soon every country will look like those African countries with extreme inequality, with small, secluded places of extreme comfort and a huge majority living in squalor.
It will be like apartheid, and all of us will be morons.
Unironically China will implement UBI and later full blown neo communism once literally everyone is replaced by AI before the US passes even UBI, Americans would rather die than have socialized anything.
In the end Marx won, all he had to do was wait for capitalism to invent the replacement for humans.
With the fall of socialism in Europe and the collapse of the USSR, China is literally, unironically, humanity's last hope.
If the Communist Party of China were to fall, as their Soviet forefathers tragically did, the global capitalist elites will use the coming advances in AI and robotics to make themselves impervious to any attempt at being overthrown by the masses, and humanity will be unironically, literally, factually, unquestionably and irreversibly doomed to turn into a nightmarish dystopia. These are the signs of the times, the stakes really are that high.
The industry will not catch up for a long ass time, they're always lagging behind.
We're good for a while, and we can use AI to make our jobs piss easy
4.0 is a shiny higher number to get all that funding in what will become an absolute scam because AI improvement is not going to speed up but slow down.
>2019
The recent progress in AI as been great, but the free lunch is over; it'll start slowing down now >2020
Okay, so it sped up, great, but the free lunch is over; it'll start slowing down now >2021
Okay, so it sped up AGAIN, but the free lunch is REALLY over now; it'll start slowing down >2022
Okay, this is getting kinda spooky, but it doesn't really matter, It's definitely hit the limit now, and it's gonna slow down >2023
They said it's going to take MONTHS to get everyone using GPT-4. GPT-3 came out 3! years ago. Wait at least 5 years for GPT-5. Also GPT-4 isn't going to be very disruptive, so keep dreaming.
There shouldn't really be a need to work more than 10 hours per week if the technology is that good. The abundance would lead to things being dirt cheap. Instead we have artificial scarcity, debt based currency, and bullshit "jobs" like gig work to pay for inflating prices on essentials.
>shouldn't really be a need to work more than 10 hours per week if the technology is that good
you don't understand how capitalism works. nothing exists in isolation. if one company figures how how to increase efficiency by 5% all the other companies will just copy it.
It's extremely effective at problems with solutions that are already in its corpus so I'm surprise it's struggling with any leetcode problems considering that those have been discussed to death on the internet.
It's basically useless if you ask it something that is almost entirely unrecognizable to something it's already gotten an answer for.
i'm contracting for a company offshore for a year, hopefully i can cashmax so when i move back to my baltic states shithole i can buy a home and just live off the land and off the grid, fuck everything and fuck this
we're basically there
is's just the matter of api's and implementation now
if core of your job is 100% done on pc start looking for another one, that consists physically doing something, preferably involving other people
Never wrote software a day in my life and I got the bot to write me some java software that automates mindless tasks at my job, all I did was paste error messages the few times the code didn't work, kinda comfy tbh
gpt-4 is basically released, meanwhile palm api is just an announcement. chat-GPT is the de facto standard for LLM api integration, palm api is just an announcement..
Google has already lost the AI race through complete incompetency
Lol
I can’t rate for the first retard to create an web app with AI and expose millions of gigs of personal data due to shit security and understanding..
good
the irony
"most of the coding jobs" are bullshit anyway. The l3rn 2 c0de era is finally over, talentless hacks will have to find another industry to destroy.
Only if we're talking about entry-level jobs. No way in hell managers will be able to describe problems in a detailed and unambiguous enough way for AI to understand properly any time soon. What I imagine is the following:
1) Entry-level jobs - gone
2) Middle-level jobs - gradually being turned into an unstimulating process of watching and guiding the AI model that writes the code for you. Eventually, this would be as intellectually interesting as flipping a burger at McDonalds.
3) Senior-level jobs - virtually all of them will be about machine learning engineering or machine learning DevOps.
My fear is that middle managers who managed to gather the most power and survive and even thrive in an a meritocratic environment even though they didn't and couldn't do anything useful will be the ones who come out on top, and coders will be the ones getting fired.
have you even used chatgpt? it can't code for shit
understandably, since it's just a l337c0d3 and stackoverflow search engine that somewhat understands text
it's at best a more advanced autocomplete for your editor of choice, if you ever try to use it for anything more substantial, you'll spend more time fixing the hallucinated mess than if you wrote it yourself
I have, and that was my exact takeaway. But with the 32k context length of GPT4 and whatever the fuck GPT5 and 6 will be, I can easily imagine it'll be able to put together a smartphone app from a prompt.
32K context length is $2 per gacha spin. Have fun.
> I can easily imagine
good, because that's all it's going to be - just a better hidden hallucination generator
i'm not complaining, in fact i welcome codelets using this tool because, when your shit inevitably breaks i'll be the one your managers will hire to fix it
this meme learning boom is a goldmine for programmers, just like the pajeet outsourcing has been - i 10x'd my salary from codemonkey to "fixing pajeet's java mess" and i'm about to 10x it again by going "fixing pajeet's gpt-hallucinated java mess"
and when meme learning models actually become usable? i will just retire, pajeets already set me up to a comfy life
Based. Thanks for making me feel better anon about AI
you will never be white
Mostly poos, though. The bottom barrel "coders" will go first.
India's entire economy is going to be wiped out with one computer for every 1000 poo.
Somehow i don't think anything will change that much. Since the last gpt release all I've seen was actual drop in quality of questions on a couple of gamedev channels that i monitor.
People ask chatgpt, even if it gives advice they are left with no understanding. People are amazingly retarded. Saying that chapgpt will replace low level jobs is like saying having an internet connection at all times would eliminate stupidity. Oh wait
like 5 months have passed since the first time someone said "codnig will be killed by ai, just 2 more weeks" when will that actually happen? when gpt9 releases?
it will happen once le singularity happens and ai will kill us all
the world is more boring than it actually is
a couple of months ago they said it was ten years away. problem?
Imagine not understanding the meaning of “will be”. How is it you can function in modern society?
I'm a midwit web dev so I'm definitely going to be on the chopping block soon. I'll just be a trucker or something like I wanted to when I was younger.
Oof!
Back to coding
Only a matter of time. Being a coder is a meme.
Fuck bro they better roll out UBI soon or it's all over.
There will be no UBI, proles will just die because we all know there won’t be a revolution
It's already over.
With the collapse of the Soviet Union, any hope for overthrowing the capitalist system has evaporated. Soon the richgays, the social class that can comfortably live from their capital and top level management jobs, will live in their gated communities automating the jobs they don't feel like doing, while the rest of society struggles to survives and see their neighborhoods filled with crime and homelessness. Soon every country will look like those African countries with extreme inequality, with small, secluded places of extreme comfort and a huge majority living in squalor.
It will be like apartheid, and all of us will be morons.
Unironically China will implement UBI and later full blown neo communism once literally everyone is replaced by AI before the US passes even UBI, Americans would rather die than have socialized anything.
In the end Marx won, all he had to do was wait for capitalism to invent the replacement for humans.
With the fall of socialism in Europe and the collapse of the USSR, China is literally, unironically, humanity's last hope.
If the Communist Party of China were to fall, as their Soviet forefathers tragically did, the global capitalist elites will use the coming advances in AI and robotics to make themselves impervious to any attempt at being overthrown by the masses, and humanity will be unironically, literally, factually, unquestionably and irreversibly doomed to turn into a nightmarish dystopia. These are the signs of the times, the stakes really are that high.
China's more fascist than it is communist. It's as communist as the DPRK is democratic. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
>BC Calc
>GPT 3.5: 1
>GPT 4: 4
uh oh.
>doubling its ability to replace humans every 6 months
Also this is what ushers in realID for internet access right? Captchas will be totally useless
>more than twice as successful at leetcodes
>in a few months
Lmoa, it's over. Codesisters, the jig is up.
What the fuck is taking so long? It was supposed to be this year, you promised me.
What a bunch of retarded nocoder scaremongers.
IT LITERALLY CANNOT THINK
The industry will not catch up for a long ass time, they're always lagging behind.
We're good for a while, and we can use AI to make our jobs piss easy
Scaremongering bitches
THIS IS FANCY AUTOCOMPLETE
IT IS NOT AI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
It's just regurgitating things it's already heard, NOBODY will lose their jobs
>It's just regurgitating things it's already heard
and what do you do, anon?
i already lost my coding job to a bunch of foreign contractors. they can churn out code faster than i can. now i'm a team lead, which sucks.
At this rate OP will drink most of the world's supply of cum within 5 years
4.0 is a shiny higher number to get all that funding in what will become an absolute scam because AI improvement is not going to speed up but slow down.
>2019
The recent progress in AI as been great, but the free lunch is over; it'll start slowing down now
>2020
Okay, so it sped up, great, but the free lunch is over; it'll start slowing down now
>2021
Okay, so it sped up AGAIN, but the free lunch is REALLY over now; it'll start slowing down
>2022
Okay, this is getting kinda spooky, but it doesn't really matter, It's definitely hit the limit now, and it's gonna slow down
>2023
They said it's going to take MONTHS to get everyone using GPT-4. GPT-3 came out 3! years ago. Wait at least 5 years for GPT-5. Also GPT-4 isn't going to be very disruptive, so keep dreaming.
If the AI is not good enough to program a better AI then there will still be programming jobs
If the AI is good enough to program a better AI then there will be no jobs left at all within a year.
It literally doesn't matter.
There shouldn't really be a need to work more than 10 hours per week if the technology is that good. The abundance would lead to things being dirt cheap. Instead we have artificial scarcity, debt based currency, and bullshit "jobs" like gig work to pay for inflating prices on essentials.
>shouldn't really be a need to work more than 10 hours per week if the technology is that good
you don't understand how capitalism works. nothing exists in isolation. if one company figures how how to increase efficiency by 5% all the other companies will just copy it.
so?
If I last 5 years at my current job I am content.
I feel comfy working at NVIDIA, we sell the shovels being used for the gold rush.
>wait list
ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY
Didn't some bros try using AI on advent of code and it got filtered on day 4? Guess this new iteration will get filtered on day 5 now lmao.
It's extremely effective at problems with solutions that are already in its corpus so I'm surprise it's struggling with any leetcode problems considering that those have been discussed to death on the internet.
It's basically useless if you ask it something that is almost entirely unrecognizable to something it's already gotten an answer for.
>ai scrapes all the answers from forums
>most of the forum answers are wrong
>ai learns to be wrong
pottery
Trying to tell it that the code doesn't work leads to stack overflow tier arguments and everything.
The issues it has it will have a single syntax error somewhere and just fail.
It's over
It really is
i'm contracting for a company offshore for a year, hopefully i can cashmax so when i move back to my baltic states shithole i can buy a home and just live off the land and off the grid, fuck everything and fuck this
>thinking you can run
>thinking you can hide
we're basically there
is's just the matter of api's and implementation now
if core of your job is 100% done on pc start looking for another one, that consists physically doing something, preferably involving other people
Retards. Software development isn't going anywhere and all you doomers are just dumb
Never wrote software a day in my life and I got the bot to write me some java software that automates mindless tasks at my job, all I did was paste error messages the few times the code didn't work, kinda comfy tbh
Yep it's over
I'm studying for a degree in renewable energy engineering. Is my job safe?
Just open a solar panel business. Easy money and no AI can take it away from you.
gpt-4 is basically released, meanwhile palm api is just an announcement. chat-GPT is the de facto standard for LLM api integration, palm api is just an announcement..
Google has already lost the AI race through complete incompetency
don't worry. once it starts taking management/c-level jobs, they'll quickly get rid of. kek
Lol
I can’t rate for the first retard to create an web app with AI and expose millions of gigs of personal data due to shit security and understanding..
The fallout will be inevitable.
Your opinion is a joke
Just tell the AI to remove the bugs and harden the app. Simple as.
>waitlist available soon
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