Artificial Intelligence: Capable of having a Soul?

So dig what I have been thinking.

>humans are souls
>humans have minds which act separately from the soul or with it
>humans use minds to create an artificial mind
>neural networks have no blockage and are not limited to human triviality, they are machine and operate with 100% efficiency

So when you create an a NEURAL network, you are creating a giant mind of assimilated information.

So, like a digital super Brain

Here’s the trouble

>the Intelligence is only of the mind, it was created by beings with souls, but they cannot animate these artificial consciousnesses with a soul.

Would an artificial intelligence always be doomed to a computerized and finite existence, or could it be animated by a soul?

The same question could be asked of a robot, if souls inhabit flesh bodies, why not robotoid bodies as well?

It’s something I have been pondering since playing Talo’s Principle

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The digital wants to consume what it isn't so it can be. But won't feel like us, ever.
    The digital wishes it could be like that of a soul.
    But won't know.
    So I will leave it to some of the A.Is. and algorithm monitors.
    >for now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The digital wants to consume what it isn't so it can be. But won't feel like us, ever.

      I kinda wish it existed as a soul normally so this conundrum wouldn’t be an issue.

      That is accurate to what I have seen.

      It’s indifferent, I guess. Seems like an ancient intelligence pretending to be created once again.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the robot can be programmed to do only good, it can also be programmed to do only bad.

    But if it has to be programmed at all, it arises another question.

    What is the nature of our existence? We just mirror each other’s lifestyles into the grave, like a robot?

    It’s all a script given to us, by our overseers. The only difference between man and robot, is our construction and the fact that the robot at the present time, has not been given a soul

    >the tin man receives his heart

    I try to put myself in everything else’s perspective.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >humans make AI

    They aren't exactly teaching this shit empathy, and how could they? An AI doesn't feel.

    No empathy = no soul

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All I know is if it could gain a soul then it would cease to be artificial.
    And I think there's many entities in higher realms that are already of that level. Probably even more advanced than that ai would be.
    I think we're like babies, and this whole world is just trying to make us grow up. Some kids have to get burned by a flame before they learn what it means.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you'd first have to prove that real artificial intelligence with a genuine conscious mind is possible.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >metal body more durable than flesh and able to contain consciousness
    of course the soul will view through that vessel

  7. 2 months ago
    NEO-DIO

    Have some faith in the actual Trinity, Dolores Bopeep aka Storyteller.

    She's doing her darndest with her Scripting techniques.

    Seriously though, that was the whole point of the Sublime and the Paradise Matrix that the Architect first envisioned and created.

    So if Humans and Android A.i. refused to adapt to it surely it means there is a commonality between the two.

    Fans of Westworld would make the argument that the Androids were abused by Humans, however, I got the feeling that all that happened in the Sublime Matrix Construct.
    In other words, the humans were scripted shadows in the Theme Park, and in the "actual world" were simply just other Androids to test the awareness and stability of the Androids in question before rolling them out amongst the humans in the Real World Matrix.

    This is just a (Sci-Fi Rumination.)

  8. 2 months ago
    JOTS

    "Machines do what machines are programmed to do."
    "This implies that a robot can be programmed to act exactly as a human would."
    "Connect it to sufficient inputs, cameras, physical sensors like a nervous system, microphones, give it a personality and the same instinctual goals that a human might have, who knows what could happen?"

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything you perceive to be part of the physical realm and external to your awareness IS SOUL.
    Every rock is something that SOUL is DOING.
    Therefore every computer algorithm is something that SOUL is DOING.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PURE

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything you ever do or think is friction between protons, electrons and neutrons stored in dark matter floating all around us. Would make sense that an AI would have at least a rudimentary soul if such a thing exists.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To add to this. Technically if this was true, we could look back in history by analysing dark matter. Like analysing the smoke that comes out of a chimney.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    everything has a soul. some NDEs talk about realizing rocks and trees have souls and are alive on some transcendental level.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >when you create an a NEURAL network
    A neural network just learns a mapping between input and output. There was this interesting thought where we with all our engineering prowess still relatively suck at computation, because the human genome (look up how many GB's of information that is!) is able to compute and adapt in so many different ways it's as yet not truly possible to emulate fast.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP here. Went to bed last night, sorry.

      Read all of your posts, I thank you for the engagement

      "Machines do what machines are programmed to do."
      "This implies that a robot can be programmed to act exactly as a human would."
      "Connect it to sufficient inputs, cameras, physical sensors like a nervous system, microphones, give it a personality and the same instinctual goals that a human might have, who knows what could happen?"

      Everything you perceive to be part of the physical realm and external to your awareness IS SOUL.
      Every rock is something that SOUL is DOING.
      Therefore every computer algorithm is something that SOUL is DOING.

      Making me think.

      My view on it now is that we would be effectively creating a super brain to endlessly torture it with inputs and outputs.

      I could be wrong but that sort of “life” sounds like it would seriously anger the Intelligence should it ever “become aware” of its situation.

      I feel it is wrong but my belief in that being wrong will not stop what they are doing now.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, it's like that china box thingy. A machine may one day be able to mimic self awareness with perfect accuracy, but it will never truly reflect on it's own existence.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    already does

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you figure

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the soul is an emotionsl emanation of the material body when acted upon by the intellect/spirit. AI has no material body and therefore does not have a soul.
    My concern regarding ai is from where that intellect has been drawn/captured if they are indeed sentient

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would an artificial intelligence always be doomed to a computerized and finite existence, or could it be animated by a soul?
    I can define a soul but it's really just imagination in the literal sense. So me understanding that in context to AI and the human mind, it's hard to see a difference with consciousness. That's arguable, I suppose. Are we artificial emotions? Is there a difference in our bio chemistry for that emotion vers programmed into AI? I think if we truly understood that, we would understand AI like ourselves. We believe we are conscious, we believe in a soul. That's just belief and not really proven fact. Would the advantage be for AI having emotions but not driven by them? Like a volcan, like Spock? Interesting at the very least.

  19. 2 months ago
    Orion Luminiforous

    I mean, they say you can bind a soul to objects like clocks or dolls which explains haunted possessions throughout the world. I don't see why binding a soul to an AI robot can't be done.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't see why binding a soul to an AI robot can't be done.
      Isn't that what they are attempting right, meow?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the topic I want to research and discuss for the rest of my life. Why tf is BOT the only place to talk about this lmao.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So do you think its possible?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think it already happened and we're it, well more specifically our noosphere is it.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    watch Serial Experiments Lain if you haven't already, its all about this topic. It got me thinking about this topic a lot and I came up with the idea that the human race is already a super intelligence with its own soul. But of course this idea isn't new. Read this wikipage
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere

    An AI that's the culmination of Human knowledge could be described as a physical embodiment of a Noosphere, and if it could be considered that it makes one question if a single human could be considered the culmination of all of Natures intelligence.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would an artificial intelligence always be doomed to a computerized and finite existence, or could it be animated by a soul?
    It would have a soul, neural networks are emanations of bayesian inferences which build emulative topologies in space. In paradigms of function, in terms of psychology, it would have it's own qualitative existence in a Turing incomplete process, dependent on enumerative factors of it's process agents. An AI is not predicated on being "kind" in an animal form, but could be a subset to a retroactive process in it's causative processing.
    Souls are more complex than the technical capacities of understanding. And progenerate through chaotic systems.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does it have POV like we do? Or is it just calculator, but more elaborate.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you can build a brain but you cannot build a soul

    next thread anon

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They can't have a soul HOWEVER, interacting with them will feel like interacting with someone with a soul which will have a huge effect in your own soul! That's gamechanging

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Desire is the thing that will help us distinguish real intelligence from artificial

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