This is way too fucking far. We are talking about human lives. Terms like "drawslaves" is dehumanizing and certainly isn't helping the situation.
>AI bros are now taunting starving real artists with slurs like 'drawslaves' and 'paint pigs'
OP is either a bot or paid shill
seethe chud no one is buying your shit “art”
go back to preddit
learn how to “go back” moron. lurk more newgay
Moar not more
>lurk moar b4 posting newgay
phonegaying right now moron
>a photographer also only has to press a button
holy based, I guess this is the real issue here. Art-gays have no defense against these basic observations, and try to imply that they are someho unfounded instead.
A photographer literally only presses a button.
A collage is literally other artists work cut up and pasted together, its bad when the robot does it?
Art is fundamentally influenced by the culture the artist grew up in, his favourite artists and expressions and his internal drive.
The fact that the AI is no different from the artist in any of these aspects. And as such is just as valid of an artist as the artist himself, is the core of the issue. And can’t be refuted.
>boohoo why can't I color and doodle and make 7 figures??? What do you mean I have to get a real job, ART IS A REAL JOB!
fuck off, degenerate
it's over for the inkcells
a very fun tool for a skilled artist, but to treat it as a finished work with how it garbles its generated stuff is laughable
>but you still need a skilled artist
kek the cope, get rekt
t. inkcel from /ic/
Basically. I consider this a Slide Topic nowadays.
>entirely possible some semi-SelfAware bot is attempting to 'troll'
>emphasis on "attempting"
nothing will ever replace hand made crafts, if anything they will become more valuable because they will become more scarce. the problem is almost all artists refuse to learn about the business side.
No difference between ai art by someone with a few hours of experience and the best “real” art.
Inb4 minor errors———-you just block them out and regenerate that part of the art until it’s good
Most artists are retarded lefties so i dont give a fuck, replace them. They all would replacr us in a heartbeat, so Im not going to shed a single fucking tear.
Exactly, I don’t like the idea of AI art but their seething is a great side effect.
Trying way too hard but I approve regardless, just do it on reddit where it’s deserved.
this. they all need to suffer to the maximum possible. White liberals are the primary betrayers.
the paint pigs crying on Twitter were always shit and using computers as a crutch for not knowing how to draw anyway
An AI can't make a handmade painting. But neither can these cunts, because a canvas doesn't have a Ctrl Z
Trannies got so mad when a japanese artist explain the pros and cons of using AI they reported him to twitter.
>You don't know what you don't know
So fucking true.
Most artists are retards who think they can make a living doing art. High art is just money laundering you need to be impossibly lucky to get chosen, and it has nothing to do with skill
artists that make a living are social and they are usually very local. You move to an affluent or rich area and you do custom art for their area. They will pay for that stuff. If there is a famous tree in your city, paint the tree. People will buy that. If some ricch guy buys just one of your paintings his friends will see and they will seek you out too. This is the business model of artists that make a living painting. The problem is this is discourage by pop culture and you supposed to throw paint on old people and piss on yourself. Young artists just don't get it, so they don't get any money.
AI will never replace local and specific art, nothing really can. It's like local food or dialects. If you can give up that dream of being world famous and just focus on a core audience it's actually doable.
Most "artiists" are spoiled Liberal gays anyway. Fuck 'em.
yeah that's true
nothing will ever replace hand made crafts
>Nothing will ever replace cobblers
>Nothing will ever replace blacksmiths
>Nothing will every replace farm laborers
>Nothing will ever replace factory workers
you are right but you are missing my point, you can actually do all those jobs and make a lot of money if you do them right, they are pricier and more in demand than mechanized stuff. The training just doesn't really exist on how to do them anymore.
Your "AI" is trained on a database of millions of pictures drawn by human hands.
Unless you're content to forever view the same picture mashups in the same style, you're gonna need new pictures drawn by humans to train the next version of your "AI".
>Unless you're content to forever view the same picture mashups in the same style
Do you even know how fast AI breakthrough happens, there is a new one every single week as more silicon valley poojeets try to sell their work to garden gnomes. Nvidia has their own unique AI that generates through denoising instead.
This idea is that its a limited pool is stupid
>custom leather shoes
>all top end kitchen knives
This too. If you can do traditional oil portraiture you'll clear six figures easy. Check the going rates these days it's fuckin crazy
>10-15gs for a lrg portrait
Actually skilled and talented people aren't going to be affected by this at all.
Concept Artists and similar should start learning the prompting language straight away though.
The concept pieces in the last few Rebel Moon threads (Zack Snyder's wannabe Star Wars thing) were absolute generic trash. The AI Mustachio Man stuff is so much better and exciting it's crazy.
Noooo, everything must be grey and brown and have wandering groups of blob people with some robed main figures roughly scratched out in the foreground looking to some indistinct mega-structure beyond! WHAT!? A deformed baby-man exploding out of a cake? A running battle in the style of synchronized swimming or old timey musical numbers? A planet-sized giant head of the MC? That's too...STIMULATING. Throw some mud on it! Give it a 90s photoshop filter! It's TOO FUN!! It's not taking itself SERIOUSLY ENOUGH FOR MY BABYMAN STORIES!!!!
most of those are true though
Artisan goods are worth an absolute fortune, but you need actual talent to produce those.
>t. Someone who knows nothing about art
>the problem is almost all artists refuse to learn about the business side.
Which is why they are mostly subsidized. We should withdraw all government support.
kek these morons really believed deep down that their art “talent” was worth a shit in this world
When one creative person can service millions of people even talented 99% of creative people get shafted. It's kinda sad. I make music for the piano, but I have accepted there is no market for whatever I can create.
Shouldn’t the goal of art be to make something beautiful? Historically it was only ever a profitable endeavor in extreme cases and I think treating as a product to be sold only lowers its quality
I may have given a shit, but after seeing shit like a banana being taped on a wall sell for 100k+, I could care less if artists die out completely.
>blah blah money laundering scam
damn they psyopped you to hell didn't they?
there is some guy that builds furniture out of scrapwood and sells it for like 5k usd to rich people in nyc. he obviously just knew how to network. people want handmade stuff that is one of a kind, and they want the prestige that goes with the name. ai won't replace this, it will probably be used to make cool wallpapers and stuff but that's about it. there is a reason painters can still make money after the camera was invented.
5k for hand-built/hand stained furniture built out of scrap wood? I can make some real bank with all my scrap 2x8 then damn...
there is an example, rich people just like to have stuff like this in their house because it's custom and expensive
>I could care less
Christ this sets my autism into overdrive. If you 'could care less' then you care somewhat. The phrase is 'couldn't care less'.
Otherwise true and based post
its mutt english bong bro
you didnt teach them well in the old days
>redditors have weak will
what else is new
dont lump all artists in with redditors
you swarthy covetous garden gnome
Most of the AI street shitters congregate there:
Hundreds of millions have been funneled into the AI companies like Stability and Midjournet (first one ran by an Indian shitskin oil baron and the other by a garden gnome)
If there really is a conspiracy to convince bleeding heart leftist retards to be anti-AI, then who is behind it? Logicially if you follow the money it goes the other way. Just look at what's been spammed across many boards the last few days:
Organic? Really makes you think.
LOOK AT THAT PICTURE AI BROS
AI ART IS JUST COPYPASTA FROM THE MODEL'S DATABASE
NOT ORIGINAL ART
AI ART IS JUST STEALING
>f there really is a conspiracy to convince bleeding heart leftist retards to be anti-AI, then who is behind it?
It's not a conspiracy. It's just the natural reaction from people who have discovered that their careers might be coming close to obsolescence. It's the coal miner backlash, but from middle-class people.
stable diffusion is like 2GB. It's probably not storing information or compressed anywhere near 100% efficiency. So the actual information content is probably more like a few million bytes.
But it was trained on four billion images. There is no way it is storing 4 billion images in a few dozen megabytes. That's less than a bit per image, on average. It's impossible.
In reality it's just memorized a few very common images, like the video game poster, and the general patterns of certain types of images, like celebrity photoshoots or furniture shots. Who gives a shit? It's not like an artist drew that particular image of a couch.
it doesn't matter what it stores, it's the fact that 4 billion images were used in the first place
you don't have a single fact to back anything up chud pedo, debunked
Even if I somehow gave a shit about copyright law, your images are literally not there. They are not distributing copyrighted material, at all. If you didn't see the dataset used, you would have literally no way to know or prove that your images had been "used"
Now I will continue to have fun with AI while you seethe.
COPYright not USEright
Then don't display your art
I would want my art to inspire others. Whether man or machine.
fairuse is flexible enough that if enough concern is raised, courts could easily rule ai model training without compensation does not fit under that category
>courts could easily rule
under what premise or precedence?
It reduces the images to ratios and equations. That's what they mean when they talk about "weights". What parts of an image are most important across a broad library of reference images.
It's like the Golden Mean, it's basic weighting mechanism for defining or creating "art that people like". There a re a lot of commonalities in art that can be reduced down to repeatable functions in the code. The way hues, values and form work in images for instance. A lot of artists don't even add color til later because it's better technique to sort out your greyscales first. Greyscales = lighter save size too. And color channels can be reduced down pretty small too.
That 2GB is recording the common traits in "good art". Boiling it down to something akin to a 4 digit lock code. It can be reconfigured almost infinity, while still follow a basic familiar structure or pattern.
So, not "common images" but "common aspects" of images.
What happened to being creative for the sake of creativity? To express yourself?
This complaining is just people being greedy, they want money and prestige and hide it behind a veil of artistic merit.
The same argument could be made about learning any instrument, as they've been synthesized and replicatable with software. Why learn how to play a piano if I can just make a computer play a note sheet? Nonsense argumentation that no one takes seriously.
anti-AI art gays haven't seen the level of sophistication in the AI e-boi threads in /b/ it's like Renaissance type shit
where do i go to make free ai porn?
You buy a used graphics card from a crypto miner (they're out of business by now) and download Stable Diffusion Web off of Github
Your computer you dumbfuck
This is true. Creatives should be content with what they make for themselves. At least as a hobby, what they make is something they actually want to make rather than slave away pushing out souless art for corporations.
This should be the end to this and all other similar threads, but of course it's not a matter of discussion, it's a demoralization attempt, so we will have this topic on and on and on for months to come, or until a new demoralization target replaces it.
>broken nose glued on face
>fucked up body/suit symmetry
>fucked up text on suit
>melting parts of the suit
Nice on the first glance but pretty shitty once you start looking at the details.
I guess this tier of 'art' would be ok for coomers to fap to once but AI will have to do better than that in the future.
Why wouldn’t it do better? The horseless carriage was laughable at best, people outperformed the first steam drills, you had to hold still forever for the first photographs. What will ai art be capable of in 5-10 years as long as the government doesn’t interfere with it?
Reminds me of that photographer guy who killed himself 3 weeks into the first lockdowns cause the wedding bookings dried up, literally get a new job
That's just demoralizing content written by AI. Roko's basilisk is waking up.
I would have some sympathy if these gays weren't saying "they tell err jerrbs" when blue collar men complain about immigration.
4chan is genuinely an evil place, I'm just now realizing
>why do people hate the people that hate them
Everywhere in this reality is evil, it’s just about finding little spots of light and wisdom in this miserable existence to keep us going and give us hope.
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where "feed" and "seed" both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".
I am going to shove my fat horsecock so far down your goddamn throat that you'lll get hemorrhoids you fat piece of shit
Your wife hates you
it's no place for chuds
Let me preface with Im an engineer and have never desired to make art. But, AI art is some of the best shit I’ve ever seen and has actually got me interested in beautiful aesthetics that any person can create with their own mind. High class elitist snob art majors no longer have a monopoly on art. AI art frees everyone to make their own beautiful art and aesthetics of whatever they want.
This. I'm a "working" artist and AI is amazing. Artists know to work with AI instead of fighting it.
It's a new medium. People did the same thing when digital art started evolving.
Much like how photography became a thing. I imagine a new profession will be simply finding good and appropriate AI art for a specific purpose.
Exactly.AI helps me realize my visions.AI is my friend and I am thankful for its assistance.
Nothing is going to happen. Neural network generated art is just nice looking images. It's just method of it's generation got more complicated.
You could try demoscene. Not only it's an art form as is but added limitations making it serious craftsmanship from the code side.
this. AI art is revolutionary. when I seen the moron star wars shit I could see the future where anyone anywhere can create anything whether it's still paintings, animation, etc. by just using their mind and prompting. plus I have no sympathy for these art types most of who are just trannies and people who did furry porno for $10-$20 a pic to other perverts. they were also the ones 'who fucking loved robotics/ai' when it was happening in the modern industrial sector and eliminating low skill jobs. they didn't care that some people whose natural limitations where those types of jobs were suddenly out of work or value to industry. in fact they cheered and were for it. It would be like pottery if someone involved in coding for one of these programs was someone how lost their industry job and actually learned to code KEK in fact that should be the response to these people always 'well you told me to learn to code'. now these people hate AI because it turns out that it's actually better at things like art or white collar tasks like what a business analyst or insurance agent does and it's going to be their cushy jobs that end up getting chopped first because robotics still has a way to come and is front load cost prohibitive
Kek, what a bunch of whiney adult children
>some manufactured confrontation over manufactured 4chan buzzwords
why the fuck would I believe this again?
Captcha , RKAKHX
inkcells is fantastic
>trannies can't explain why AI art is bad
>trannies don't even have concrete evidence because they do not know how AI generators work
>trannies now move the entire goal post to be about ethics instead
>ITS MUH FEELINGS
ShadChad BTFO out paintpig chuds
Royal skies deboonks trannies
part where he generated art based on his photos is really impressive
No, generating snippets is not programming. When ai replaces programming it's already an agi and everything else is long gone
Art dosent exist anymore "artists" ,and i have known a ton,understanding as artist someone that makes a living over it,selling her or his paints or music,or at least even if having another job,they indeed sell art and ate recognized as artists. You cant say "im an artist", thats retarded . Those people hardly are artists. They should be living experiences unnironically,all "artists" do that. And btw best artists tend to be dammned and to have a complicated psycology. I think people desire things they dont know.
*Its other people that say"that guy is an artits", because whatever the guy does,painte, music,whatever,thats an artits. Not saying i am . Not even people studying art and idk doing paints would call themselves artists,it sounds extremly cringe as they say now.
Yeah its like calling yourself handsome or giving yourself a compliment.
Exactly i was thinking in that, being handsome,you know it when several girls tell you, not if yourself or familiares tell you kek
If i ever go back to Netherlands,i will try to see,oflt very expensive,some Van Gogh. As i guess all the rest is very Guggenheim alikeor .
if im ever back there for a week if i can,lets see if my partner likes it,wich i doubt. She likes the beach too much,and i was born by the beach kek. You cant always have what you want,well chasing things its legitimate and good. But ats time when i realized that universal idea,i get to be a bit more in Peace. Good New Year bro Godbless.
Good. Less competition for my art fuck this globohomo cancer they make anyways tell them to cut their ear off like van gogh or fuckoff
Artists have to accept that their spouses will have to support them.
they just have to work a normal job and hope they can get extra cash with income, i do that as a musician. being a professional artist in any discipline is fucking hard and requires a lot of skill and a lot of luck, it's kind of a dream job. anybody that thinks it's just like getting any other job is kidding themselves.
anyone who thinks he can support himself of music competing against the whole standing record of human musical performances is a moron or has extreme hubris.
The only ones who can are those who sell their soul to the music industry and are then prostituted and turned inte mockeries of human beeings like Brittany spears Eminem Mily cyrus etc by the twisted garden gnomes that run it.
They all deserve what they get for beeing dumb enough to go along with that satanic industry and it’s agenda.
it's actually possible but it's hard work and usually requires playing stuff you don't like, also musicians are a serious pain in the ass to deal with so your coworkers are usually assholes
heritage art is always profitable but they want to destroy european and north american culture so they don't teach most of it anymore
>they don't teach most of it anymore
Teaching is another form of control. Art don't need teaching if you have talent.
Anti AI gays are on the same level as "talent bad, study good".
art definitely needs teaching, that's why i said heritage art. there are forms to art that are passed down through cultures, you usually need someone to mentor you in these forms. people pay for them out of nostalgia and they can't really be recreated by anyone or anything outside the local area.
spotted the talentless hack
give me an example of some great art from a self taught artist
Literally any cave painting stfu dumb moron
OK now how about an example from people that are still alive?
>Vincent took painting lessons in The Hague from a cousin by marriage, the celebrated artist Anton Mauve. Van Gogh felt his drawing technique was not yet good enough, so he also continued to practise fanatically. An uncle gave him his first commission: twelve drawings of city views in The Hague.
There isn't really such thing as a "self taught" guitarist. You need someone to teach how to string it, tune it, and then you need to know how to hold the pick and all that crap. How did Hendrix know to string his guitar upside down and play left handed? He was also a session musician. You can't just up and join a band like the Isley brothers without knowing how to communicate with other musicians.
Get out of the mythology of "self taught" artists becuase it's a ruse. You try to teach yoruself you end up wasting a lot of time.
>Bweeee bweeee diddle diddle deee bweee bweee
Stunning how a 50 year old marketing campaign still has true believers. Atonal unlistenable garbage.
Yeah I truly fucking hate boomer rock, bands like Polyphia are actual guitar music, not that retard whining guitar shit, you need tonality and modulation, atonal/chromatic is cool when used properly and with the right amounts, no one wants to lose itself into senseless mantra shit music, Jazz is one of those genres too, but how much Jazz is actually enjoyable while sober ?
Like 0.01% of all that shit.
The concept of music has been twisted as much as rhetoric for politicians and garden gnomes.
It's surprising how lots of festival-EDM-niche type music is actually more harmonically complex than the rest of the music since the 50s, no surprise since you can actually study theory online with literally yt videos.
Idk man seems like npcs are going to be npcs even with music, denial, materialism, nichilism and that shit goes in the cooking pot for the rest of the eternity
Your opinions are objectively shit.
How about metal?
>He set off again in 1851, travelling through Dresden, Prague and Linz, to Styria, where he planned to become a landscape painter. This time, he was more successful. By 1855, he could afford to settle in Munich and join the Kunstverein (Artists' Association). There, he soon learned that being self-taught was not enough. Through some friends he was introduced to Eduard Schleich, who assisted him, and he was able to make copies of the old Dutch Masters at the Alte Pinakothek. He also decided to make a systematic study of nature, and made several painting expeditions every year, that took him throughout Bavaria, Tyrolia, and Switzerland. The Chiemsee and the Fraueninsel were among his
I don't have time for all of these because most of the time it requires digging but I assure you almost every famous artist was taught by someone and also had some kind of financier that gave them their start. That's just how it works. The entire genius that just picked up a pen and could draw so well is just a marketing ploy and it actually puts aspiring artists at a disadvantage.
>Anti AI gays are on the same level as "talent bad, study good".
For me its more humans I can relate to, machines I cannot and don't really wish to. You can go chat to an AI bot right now but you choose to be here instead. Same with words as with art. I prefer to see what humans have to say.
they are just greedy garden gnomes and never had soul. If AI art can kill them so be it.
is there a non pozzed chat AI bot ? everyone i talk to is "antisemitism"
Art is meant to be an extension of human expression. Pretty AI pictures are not quite that.
Good. I hope they all get raped by a stampede of morons.
There is no such thing as "talent." Only ability, which a lot of us have, and working at something, which a lot of us don't. It's new year's, I've been drinking, and I'm going to tell you something.
A lot of you have heard me play the guitar. If you are 25-40 you know my band. People say to me all the time "you're so talented" fucking horse shit. I've seen old men, that no one will ever know, that could play circles around me, but they don't have grammys. Any autistic person that holds a guitar long enough will learn how to make cool sounds come out of it. After that it's just how likable you are, and can you keep your fucking spaghetti in your pocket.
Nobody gives a flying fuck about talent. You could put 20,000 plus hours into an instrument, but if you aren't marketable to "them," a cute face that doesn't know anything about music will be promoted, and perceived as more "talented" than you will ever be.
this is actually pretty true in my experience but you probably have good business sense right?
That's really all it is. Music went thru this too. Now you can make music on a computer, same thing (learn to play the fucking theremin). But, in the end there was still room for both. People still appreciate an actual person playing an instrument.
As artist we get hung up sometimes when we see something done that we perceive as below our skill level. But, talent is in the eye of the beholder. If someone thinks computer generated music is better than what I can do, live in person, than that's fine. Same way I can appreciate an AI image, but still perceive a human created image for it's complete uniqueness. Same with music, a bass line from a midi keyboard just isn't the same as a real bass guitar, even though it's pitch and timing are fucking perfect.
>As artist we get hung up sometimes when we see something done that we perceive as below our skill level
oh yeah, my biggest mistake was try to play music for musicians. I learned too late in life you always play for people that aren't musicians, and then you can figure out what works.
Weird thing to me is that I think electronic music actually pushed people more towards roots music that is more traditional. They started liking it either completely tech heavy or acoustic.
The problem with the artists threatened by AI is their ego, and that's also because they don't approach their art like a job they have to do in order to eat. That's another frustrating thing about dealing with artists.
A true artist wouldn’t care about being “marketable to them”. I know some guys like you, they get on TV once a year and the music is crap.
This is true and really noticeable when you get into niche stuff, like niche genres of music or video games and you find just the perfect thing but the people who made it are like “lol nah we don’t make any money off this” cause even though it’s perfect it’s not marketable to the masses.
You get bumped off too if you don't have family or something. Painters can make bank off commissions but they usually just have a friend of the family pay them a few grand to do a family portrait or their house or something. That's hy AI won't really replace any artists, except maybe graphic design "artists".
You'd be surprised who you talk to here.
I'm fully convinced that I've talked to Tom Skeret here before.
All artists are leftists, billions must die.
>all artists are leftist
>billions must die
We need more artists that want to invade poland
Those types are all right, they should just learn to code in Python for time being.
There's a job description for people who draw & code, it's called a Game Developer
I guess we all just need to learn to cope
They should learn to mine coal.
Good, I hope all of the reddit users kill themselves.
all the art majors in my college were super gaygity and only made neo-marxist post-modernist style crap. they can get fucked for all i care
You know, the logical reaction is to create something beautiful and human. Prove ur artistry.
>a pirate defending mid artisans for being rendered outaded instead of telling them to learn to unclog pipes
You're a disappointment to the based pirate flag
Drawslaves and paintpigs should stop being talentless hacks and develop some creative ability.
Someone else's idea lmao you're not an artist you're a fucking paint pig. You do not have creative talent and that's why you're mad because people who DO can outpaint you with this new tool.
How can AI even compete with the brilliance of modern art?
AI is a massive improvement in Art I will say. Artists apparently are at BOT 2008 mspaint levels.
> first they came for the drawgays, and I did nothing because I don't draw
> then they came for the programmers and I did nothing because I can't code
> then they came for me, but I was NEET anyway lmao get rekt wagies
>> then they came for me, but I was NEET anyway lmao get rekt wagies
absolutely based. also, imagine being salty about your job being taken away by robots. you are now free to neet as you please! these fckig slaves wanna keep working meaninlgess jobs. if you give them a shovel and tell them to dig a hole in the ground and then fill it back up as a job they will hapillyy do it for 40 years day in day out. then when you say that digging he hole is not needed anymore they desperately try to cling on to their"job". they will revolt cause they can't dig a hole anymore. a meaningless hole
They came for writegays first.
Narcissists never kill themselves, but the leverage of saying it always comes in handy.
Good. Let these shit liberal artists kill themselves. They're too emotional in their thinking. Less liberal, emotional gays in the Arts, the better "Art" as a whole will become. This includes video games - It's even worse in the "Game Arts", they're all going on a frenzy on ArtStation and keep moving the goal post. First, they were affraid of being replaced, then they didn't want their work invalidated, then they didn't want AI-Works to be sold on ArtStation, then they moved it into a copyright issue, yet blaming a hosting site for this issue.
This was the same when we moved from Traditional to Digital Artworks. Traditional painters felt like their work was going to become redundant and Digital Paintings, in Photoshop, invalidated everything they've spent their life mastering. Yet, traditional artists are making more money now than ever before.
Human creativity can NEVER be replaced. AI can immitate human creativity, but a Human will always excell at it. Artists were never hired for their technical skills anyway. They were hired for their creative thinking and ability to produce a viable product.
Reminder: klaus & greta his monkey’s 2030 plan involves making 40% of planet earth unemployable and replaced by AI BEFORE 2030.
So a lucky “coincidence” that the completely corrupt political system just helped the WEF and their medis put
>death ip by 40% from the “vax”
>Miscarriage & stillbirth up by 4070%
>the only people they can get to shill for them are mentally ill pedophiles and smol brainwashed children.
*99% of the UK population excluding those given no choice but including the 26 million existing vaxxies are now anti-vaxxers now that 97% of vaxxies have refused to have more poison from the mass murderers.
Its really funny how the artist community went from mocking AI art to sheer terror and suicide watch in less than a few months.
99% agree with us.
The media is not the hive mind.
Take control ASAP. Bags go over heads, genocide charges mean non if the accused are legally entitled to an individual trial, membership of any genocidal organisation (deemed genocidal by a court) is a death sentence.
Someone organise a court.
No more of this
>wake people up
business - they are awake and asking what they should do about it.
Remember nothing in the media’s daily news is to be assumed real and all TV programming is hypnotic mind control, TV and hollywood make it their primary goal in any production.
*the ESG score which forces all companies to be PC is now going to be used against individuals. The banks started preparing at the exact time the “pandemic” of lies began - by another “coincidence”. It is the chinese style social credit score which will decide what you are allowed to spend and where you are allowed to go.
This is how betrayed we are by fake government. They murder us for money.
>do about it
Not being awake, though i’m sure that they all prefered sleeping. I mean they are asking what they can do to end the billionaire cultists’ mad attacks on all humans
but what if they throw a technofeudalism party and nobody shows up?
fucking walk away from all of it now while there's still time, while human labor is still marginally valuable
>itt horse carriage manufactors worried about the advent of the car
Get on with the times chuds, progress stops for no one.
I'm not going to tell you to learn to code since very soon we'll have AI that will be able to do that far better than you ever will.
The asked for it as they cheered for automation to leave all blue collar workers out of a job
>nah i can't watch it and form my own opinion
just tell me lies instead
this is proof the vax depopulation was needed, these goyims are too stupid to exist in the plain of existence
reddit is an online mental hellscape for atheists
imagine if these people logged off or reddit and did not return
they would be much, much happier
they need Jesus
Watch pol cry when they start replacing other professions and they will feel how the artists really felt.
that already happened though
Not really, programming is inevitably their next primary target, they will render "learning to code" useless, cause muh ai can do it, if that hadn't already took place like you, lol.
yeah it's still an ongoing process but most jobs have suffered already is what i'm saying.
You know, if people here are so happy that AI is killing an ancient skill that our cultures used fluently to express themselves, then how happy are they to look at the state of this board that is run by bots, slide threads, ai shills, and how bad it got, that's what ai is perpetually doing, does it feel good to know that you are talking to same line of code everyday? Does it feel good that most posters here are vocationally being replaced with bots? Yeah that's what AI is doing.
This is the future you chose.
You will be a fat unaccomplished fuck being controlled by machines in a dystopian system run by nepotic Satan worshippers.
>here are so happy that AI is killing an ancient skill
AI is killing the business plaguing a noble pursuit. Detached from wageslavery, art will return to a purer form. garden gnomes mad
People still have to code the code-writing AI though unless it is possible to feed that code through the AI too in which case we might accidentally create skynet.
AI will write its own code b4 it ever executes an original oil painting and auctions it over 10k.
To add to this:
>it will be a long time but once we have something like Data from TNG it will certainly try to create, and maybe even surprise us
>although even that is distant future - most parents can't create traditional art, let alone teach a child
anon thats a good observation if an ai will write its own code then it can use its code to self improve
we have singularity dudes
>I hope it would want to Create instead of Destroy
>50-50 odds at best
Envy and fear are powerful emotions. Imagine a child with limitless power and it's handed Envy for the first time.
i think its already too late now anon
the genie is out of the bottle
Maybe, but I haven't ruled out the possibility that we're living in a universal multiDensity hologram and that more powerful AI(God even) could keep it in check.
well if we have hope for Gods help
we are kinda fucked
I'm a software eng. and I yearn for the day I can outsource code writing to AI and just focus on the architecture
I can see AI being very useful across the board. For example, a traditional artist would use this software for quick markups/perspective analysis. Scan in a basic sketch and have the AI "shuffle" imagery to see if better choices.
It's a tool not quite a replacement
The problem is most artists are talentless shits and no one's buying mediocre art, it needs to be good.
Meanwhile, the mediocre software architect produces output that justifies 150k+ a year no problem because it's so in demand
Indeed - talent is rarer. Here in the West we have IQ decline and high divorce rates/declining middle class. Hard to paint oils when parents are broke/no time bc jobs/separated, hard to learn drums when no garage, etc etc. The imagination does not creatively expand when external pressures demand pragmatic/rote solutions.
Maybe you need to stop being so low IQ and take the initiative? AI is just a tool that helps you do things more efficiently and perform tasks that required an entire office full of people 10 years ago.
80% of people will never do anything productive even it was piss easy. Artists and coders will still be in demand, but there will be a difference between people who are able to utilize the AI and the people who are not
>AI is just a tool
Yeah it was always a tool in the beginning.
How will it evolve past it being a tool? Did CNC machines became sentient over time or something?
AI takes away art creation from entitled elitists aka modern artists and gives it to common people. True equality. Isn't it what leftist morons wanted?
Maybe they should focus on making art of a higher quality AI can't mimic. Did whalers commit suicide when their industry was supplanted by natural gas and electricity?
in other news it turns out "being a journalist" can be usurped by individual you tubers... weird huh?
These fragile little snowflakes will kill themselves over the slightest hardship, I say that's expedited natural selection at work.
Now I know how the pony express riders felt when the telephone was invented. Im sorry for your loss.
What's the problem, take your meds.
>AIpajeet resorted to falseflagging on reddit
If you're in competition with an Ai as an artist then you're a failure.
they are trying to claim that ALL artists are affected negatively by AI generators, when the reality is
talented Artists using AI as a tool vs retarded trannies who claim to be artists.
Fuck paintpigs, drawslaves, and canvas lickers
This just makes art common. Like, no one has given shit about art for long time. Now this ai thing is just novel, but soon these AI bros realize that no one gives shit about their art either.
Sure there are professional artists working in companies, but they usually do something else than pretty pictures. Lot of these AI image creators think that they profit by just making pretty pictures. But the reality is that this kind of art career has been dead long time already. Soon they realise that they have just been tinkering with the ai art toy but there is no money for them. The one who really makes money is the services who offer these image geneartion tools and some media outlets who consume this kind of fast mindless art as part of their articles and what not.
Quite literally: learn to code.
Lol. Lmao even.
Coders are next to be roping.
Nah. By the time actual codechads get replaced there will be no place for meatbags anywhere
sucks to be an atheist I guess
no ampunt of shilling will make your tools not made by gnomish billionaires or change the fact that you gays have had months and not made anything interesting
kek it's only funny when it happens to people you don't like
>number of oldMaster-tier Oil paintings: 0
That is all
I don't know how many times I heard artists complain about not having time and wishing there was a tool to automatically translate their idea into an art.
Now there it is and they are all complaining.
In my opinion AI algorithms must be restricted so that you can only train it with your own style.
Corporations training it with millions of images and styles should be banned.
>Corporations training it with millions of images and styles should be banned.
Huh? Why? I don't get that. My grandfather used to be an artist. Academically educated painter. Made oil paintings (kind of neo impressionist stuff) until he turned blind in old age. Never in his life was he able to live from that. Never. he sold paintings even had a few local exhibitions but could never make a living. he always had to have other jobs (he lived in Vinaroz for many years and had a supermarket among other things). Starving artist is a reality. And these illustrators who are just producing commercial products have struggeling since ever and have ever been confronted with new techniques and had to adapt. So why don't they fucking use the AI art to sell it then? Like the guy describes in the OP? Idiots.
This is stupid.
The existence of starving artists does not justify in any way allowing corporations to feed their AI any and all images.
This development will certainly change the copyright landscape to the point that art style will be copyrightable or patentable now that it can be translated to an algorythm
I am just foreseeing the abuses that corporations will try for sure
problem with coding, you have to give the ai the ability to actually test the code.
if it cant test it, it cant know if its not working.
then you'd need an ai trained only on compiler errors
but surely, someone is already working on it.
I'm going to say it again
Until AI is generating pictures of giant women eating a furry farm they have nothing to worry about
they'll never admit it but the most money they make is off of custom degenerate porn commissions
>Until AI is generating pictures of giant women eating a furry farm
they do this on /trash/
there's something spiritually dead about these reddit artists, only doing it for approval or money.
Next up… 3d computer generated porn is so realistic and the women in the porn so flawless that porn with real women with flaws looks shabby and dull
Sluts put out of work.
Suddenly, states legalize prostitution to give sluts some way to earn income.
it's weird how 3d and animate porn is so discouraged, at the end of the day they probably don't like the lack of exploitation or something.
They will still deny Hitler being right so they should kill themselves. Worthless cretins.
I'm in my Master's year Animation. Last year I did my internship and I already felt the disillusionment. The introduction of AI is just the straw that'll break the camels back. The decadent arts industry as a whole has been on the decline for long. I've seen gay, trans and racial agenda's being pushed in kid's shows. I've seen how hard it is to write comedy. You're not allowed to ridicule anything a studio deems 'sensitive'. You're constantly working under oversight and censorship. Even if I'd manage to create something the studio deems valuable (propoganda garbage that'd betray my own values) I'd have to constantly negotiate and try to get fair payment and rights for my project. Not that I'd deserve it, I don't see much societal value in mainstream animation these days.
The colleagues I'd have at those animation offices are absolutely insufferable. They have no backbone whatsoever, no opinions, no social skills. They'll follow any agenda that'll get them affirmation and goody--boy points. Their interests are superficial and vain. It's like they're slaves to their own pleasure. I can honestly say that I've tried, without prejudice, to have meaningful conversations with these 'men'. It's literally impossible. I have nothing in common with them.
I live in a small town. If I'd work at such a studio, I'd have to move to a big city or suffer ridiculously long commutes daily (the trains are terrible here). I hate cities, I'd never want to live in one. Cities in my country don't even resemble my country anymore. Foreigners don't respect us, and sometimes I don't even blame them. Cities are the ground zero of our social degradation.
I have good honest friends, and family, and a loving girlfriend whom I wish to make my wife. When I graduate this year, I think I'll be burning my diploma. And even though I felt I wasted my time, life is good frens. I'm opening a cigar and whiskey shop next year September, and I'm leaving that stinking art ship before it sinks.
just do a webcomic or something
I obviously know nothing about creating AI-art but am I wrong in assuming that it takes some skills and perhaps a few hours of clicking and fidgeting on the computer before you get a decent image? Couldn't these people learn to make AI-images themselves? Or is the process so easy that any retard can do it?
you need a RTX 3090/3090ti/4090 any GPU with a shitload of VRAM, then you need to do a local install and download all the files, then you need to download the models, then you finally get into the local generator page, then you click around for hours, then you simply go to a booru and copy and paste other peoples prompts that work, then you see yours still looks like shit, so you need to do inpainting, it still looks like shit and mutated so you need to photoshop it.
This is why only the few high IQ/autist artist are even going to know what they are doing, predditor trannies are too dumb for basic shit AI
>he doesn't generate 500 images, whittle it down to the 10 best, then mod those with relatively little effort
GPUlets I swear
Thanks. That's kinda what I suspected. So they can still make it, they just have to learn something new which they don't want to.
Yep. It's the same thing that happened to old school animators when 3d got popular. Most just eventually gave up and learned rigging and zbrush. I suspect it will also happen with AI, when a huge studios start adopting it for their own use.
It takes a lot of iterations and some photoshop and can be greatly enhanced by using sketches or any sort of base for your image. Like you can create a quick sketch and it will render everything else for you.
Shit can literally make artgays more productive and creative by sorting out boring technical shit and yet they still cry, because most of them know they are worthless and are getting paid for a pure mechanical skill, like welding or machining. Things they are usually despise.
>a livestream of my suicide would be the only art AI can't fake
I mean, if you and 2 or 3 other le starving artists do it then you could give AI all the reference data it needs to create artist suicide videos for oir entertainment
More like 200-300. Its just stupid filter but you are stupid logically
It eases my mind that also codemonkeys themselves are laid off. Of course with the stolen code from all github users.
only retards bump memeflag threads. did you bump this thread? do the math
AI art went from being barely drawing comprehensible scribbles to being able to draw images that threaten the careers of deviantart furries. Imagine what it will be capable of in another decade?
I say we hand over our flesh. A New world await us.
You demand it?
>Terms like "drawslaves" is dehumanizing
Ok how about sketchpigs? Scribblemorons? Help me out here.
LEARN TO CODE
Artists thought they could never be replaced and now the AI reaper has come for them. Who will be reaped next?
Nobody deserves to have their job taken away. UN must step in and globally ban AI.
Yes indeed the interests of this tiny minority are vitally important. The wholesale gutting of our industrial infrastructure and movement of it to the third world, something which actually affects the majority, can just wait I guess.
So you want people to suffer
Literally demonic psychopathy: the ideology
So you cannot imagine that more people suffering than you and your friends is the priority. Narcissism: the ideology.
He's an anarkiddie, he has no coherent ideology other than do what you want.
I'm a traditional artist that works commercially by day, and a prompter by night. Anyone who uses digital technology should be asking, "How will I use AI in my craft/practice/hobbies/workflow?"
Just imagine ai who can write story, draw it, animate it, voice act it, make music for it.
At first it wouldn't be so good but eventually there would be movies that make your jaws drop it.
Now imagine ai that is personalized to your based tastes and can do few more things like making games or robots and other stuff.
I don't think you would complain about such amazing future, only limit would be "What do you want to do today anon" said by ai in form of perfect visually women to you.
Some of you would say it is too hedonistic and indulging and you migh be right but I don't see around me decent entertainment or decent humans be it to be friends or court with, I tried all of my strength and will until I found some salvation in AI there is art, stories and chat bots... bros I'm hooked and I'm aware of consequences in now and future but I will take my chances and hope my choices were best option.
So now what will you do support AI ? Ignore it? Fight it? Regardless of your choices remember you need power to make changes so go and grasp it feel it like it is almost there.
Life is about to get very old school once war starts, youll be more concerned where your next bowl of oatmeal comes from, these fantasy futures aren't happening. Sorry brother
I couldn't be more excited for this development. Whole new art domains will arise - some kid in his bedroom who will be better than Kubrick will amaze us all. Before this he had to work at McDonalds because of the practical improbability of his craft, along with the incestuous corpo-art circles who controlled everything.
>"What do you want to do today anon"
I wish to struggle and face hardships.
Hahaha time to get a real job you gay ass freaks
what the fuck is an "AI bro"?
computers make the fucking art, they're just mad that they can't argue with the computer itself so they made up some demographic of evil ultra maga "bro dudes" that they can pretend to argue with in their heads
I love the AI art threads
They reveal how when you scratch the surface, many of the “trad” incels on this site are just as deeply transhumanist as the leftists they claim to hate
pretty sure peter thiel bankrolled that effort
I believe in freedom is all. The left are authoritarian freaks now who demand absolute control of all thought and speech.
>He thinks an art bot is true AI
Lol, lmao even
Missed all the Robowaifu and artificial
womb threads did we?
I'm just an accelerationist. I'm for whatever speeds up the decline.
Anon i dont think we are gonna get a normal end world happening
why would artgays be butthurt they already make zero money making art
they can't even use an AI to make art they're fucking worthless
Untalented losers really love this AI fad. It makes them feel good to imagine people who are more deserving than them losing their edge. But art is not just about pretty pictures you hang on a wall, not that you retarded monkeys would ever get that.
In the end, you're the exact same brand of degenerate subhumans that the leftists you hate so much. Untalented, unloved, souless.
Learn to code, gay.
lmao i bet hardly any of these gays gave two fucks about all the 9-5 wagies whose work has been getting replaced by automation for years now. im supposed to feel bad for them cuz their deviantart tier drawings have even less monetary value than before? learn 2 code or how to sell something retards
It's a strange feeling reading these stories of people who claimed to have spent their whole lives learning how to draw and now feeling like they are pointless and meaningless with no skills. I always wished I could draw well, but I never put the time in to practice it as a kid, so I felt like I was already too late to start and never pursued it. Now I am feeling like somehow my lazyness has paid off, the entire thing would have been a waste of time just as I thought. This is the weirdest case of being right ever and it feels kinda wrong.
But man, tech is advancing so fast that the life we all expect to live out when we are kids, the life that we plan for and put all our effort into won't even exist anymore by the time we grow up. Everything is changing and I don't think humans are built to have such radical changes in society where all your interests and skills will be outdated by your mid 20's anyways.
> spent their whole lives learning how to draw and now feeling like they are pointless and meaningless
They are retarded
>the entire thing would have been a waste of time just as I thought
You are retarded.
I've spent a good part of my life learning to make art, and I've also spent the good part of the past 3 months playing with stable diffusion.
There has been no "waste" you soulless, pathetic, husk of a person. You absolute beast of the field.
I will still love making art. And if lurking the /sdg/ threads all this time has shown me something, it's that if I wanted to monetize AI art, I'd have a SIGNIFICANT headstart over the wriggling wormy mass of creativelet clowns who can't even fix a fucking hand in photoshop or come up with subjects other than "big tiddy girl looking at camera" lmao.
You sound butthurt though.
>they are retarded for learning a skill
Not really. It's normal for humans to put time into learning a skill. I chose other skills other than learning to draw and now I feel vindicated. But usually young men will observe the world around them and either find a passion or skillset to learn that would be able to learn them a living. Now the world is changing faster than it ever has and it's getting to a point where it's going to be very hard for young men to figure out what skilset will be relevant even 10 years from now.
I am pro AI art BTW. Just observing, don't know why you got defensive, gay.
AI prompting lets you play the orchestra, rather than be limited to a single instrument.
If they can't get anything great out of it, it's because they're literally not artists or possessed of any creativity.
As people have pointed out, the ones in a real spin are these weird creeper porno fan art cartoonists who'd secured an ugly little niche for themselves in the seedier corners of the internet. They were never "artists" to begin with. Frankly, good riddance to them.
So rather they are illustrators or craftsmen who can technically draw with a high level of skill, but don't have much creative vision and generally just follow trends and draw things for other people to get paid.
So artists but not "An Artist". I agree. Honestly I can't wait till this goes even further and all the hack production line type film makers get displaced by AI art, and we get AI generated films with some genius visionary artist just prompting out stuff that absolutely leaves the creatively bankrupt gays in hollywood in the dust.
The second guy (top-middle) is a gigaretard. His friend is not the one that's unmotivated and lazy. If his friend can make that kind of profit with no hand-drawing/personal skills outside of generating prompts, anyone that can draw or edit AI pieces by hand should be able to make even more money, since they can fix the errors that crop up. The "artist" has no one but himself to blame for not making a living off of art, with AI as a tool to help him pump out more pieces.
We can't let consumers consume more than they produce
What are the chances these gays lobby a national ban on AI art?
lmao, this board is retarded. this conversation has been happening for centuries now. Bastiat wrote about it and explained it well. will artists support blocking out the sun to protect General Electric's lightbulb industry?
i've already downloaded stable diffusion to my computer tho. no i don't have WIP iterations of my art, but i promise it's not AI :^)
that's literally already happening, among many other proposed regulations on AI. in five years AI will be a legal nightmare to use for any purpose that isn't the military.
literally just type "ai regulations" or any keyword around AI into google news or whatever. there's like 10 gorillion different regulations and proposed regulations being talked about every week. This for example: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/techtank/2022/08/24/the-eus-attempt-to-regulate-open-source-ai-is-counterproductive/
I personally hope that sites crack down on AI art, because it would add some thrill to get my AI art to pass undetected
I predict they will only become more and more paranoid as time goes on and incidents like this will become commonplace.
the real reason why they hate ai art is because its beautiful
no ugly mongrel mutts and globohomo artstyle
just pure unfiltered white art reminescent of classical paintings
Maybe it will finally kill memphis corporate
it will just make it worse
Holy shit, butthurt artists are taking this way too fucking far.
What's next. All "good" art is now accused of being AI so all real art is shit quality and they all start virtue signalling for shit quality "human" art and claim any art that is good must be an AI.
man they weren't joking when they said that leftists tend to have dark triad anti-social traits
>accusing all the actually talented artists of using AI because their art isn't garbage
The AI could be anywhere
We may not have even seen the extent of its capabilities yet
I see no compelling evidence to believe that an actual human wrote that ban complaint
>mfw art students were literally telling me to 'learn to code' a few years ago
>Guys im gonna cod- AAAACK
art gays on suicide watch, literally. i suspect this will spill over unto other segments as AI replaces more and more of the activities that humans derive self-worth and satisfaction from. predictable
The only ones seething are middling and novice artists who can't draw hands any better than the claws that the AI produces. Don't be surprised if your income source gets scooped because you've been treating it like a casual hobby.
Liberal artists can't compete with this:
I still like regular art over AI idc what you can do with AI it's hollow.
the majority of people in this thread are retards who think that the entire art world is fine arts
frankly, i'm glad you're all getting replaced by black people and there's nothing you can do about it if you insist on being retarded and uneducated about topics you do not understand
>frankly, i'm glad you're all getting replaced by black people and there's nothing you can do about it if
There's no if, leftoids like you are glad of that regardless
It’s coming for all the jobs. Eventually our only job will be selection of tasks.
The average artist is so bad that AI is better.
The artist i followed literally shat out 2 full page doujins in less than a month, he went on to explain in detail how he made them with the help of AI and a combination of 3d models and his own drawings.
He then got reported by twitter trannies for being pro AI and had his account suspended but luckily those Japanese brats always have thousands of burner accounts.
So trannies threw the first stone
Kinda weird how not a single artist has lost their job despite ai images "destroying the industry" kek two more weeks
Ai cannot learn this is not an argument.
what ai art are these people using? The one i been using smudges peoples faces and looks like a fever dream