Are AI-proof captchas possible? Or is there no hope against the flood of GPT bots?

Are AI-proof captchas possible? Or is there no hope against the flood of GPT bots?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw can't answer this
    Rural schools are the worst.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Most people can't answer this.

      But rural schools are indeed the worst.

      t. school counselor

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you aren't supposed to if it makes you feel better
      unless it is a very specific job that requires you to learn it, you won't need 99% of math that aren't basic four operations
      so don't feel bad if you aren't fitting in an specific niche autism, it is clearly a question made by niche nerds for niche nerds

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Half true since you're downplaying the breadth of jobs for which understanding statistics is useful, e.g., any job for which you'll need to derive insights from data.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So are niche specific captchas the way to go?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This one does not work, it's actually easier for AI than for humans to solve.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            A human with prior knowledge could solve that very quickly. AI is gonna have a hard time categorizing all those slightly different animal pictures.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The problem is that the answer is usually not clear in most cases to a trained human. An AI has 95%+ accuracy for this, though. If the market you're looking at is "fur is roughly this tint on a grey-brown scale" but the lightning sucks, you're fricked. AI doesn't care and gets it right usually.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Disagree, someone who knows what these species look like will pretty much see the answer clearly right away.
                And you'd first have to train an AI on all those images just to spam a single site, nobody is that obsessed.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >disagree with fact
                whatever helps you sleep at night

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                that was not a fact

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So what did you mean when you said "trained human"? I thought it would be someone able to distinguish simple patterns of things within their own area of expertise.

                https://i.imgur.com/nosJJZb.png

                Also you couldn't be more wrong about 'AI is gonna have a hard time categorizing all those slightly different animal pictures", it's precisely the opposite. It's been used extensively on animal species and plants, and on things like mosquito larvae.
                On the other hand, there is currently no model I know of that's good at telling if, given 2 3D views of objects, the objects are the same or not.

                Your pic shows them at the same angle and the same white background, and even then it doesn't get it right all the time.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's not even about whether it's possible for AI to solve, it's about the effort. If every site implemented their own topically specific captcha, the effort required to solve them all by AI would become unreasonable (even if it were theoretically possible).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Also you couldn't be more wrong about 'AI is gonna have a hard time categorizing all those slightly different animal pictures", it's precisely the opposite. It's been used extensively on animal species and plants, and on things like mosquito larvae.
                On the other hand, there is currently no model I know of that's good at telling if, given 2 3D views of objects, the objects are the same or not.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >rural
      homie no public school could prepare you for this shit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      High school stops at basic algebra because normies can't handle more. I never took honors, but they probably just crunch calculus equations and hand out scratch-n-sniff stickers.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    require people to attend a signing party and rate limit by pgp signature

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      gpg sig at birth managed by the government

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    11*(10 choose 2)*(8 choose 3) so 27720

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      to follow up, just formulate this as a ball coloring problem.
      >color 1 ball as yellow (not member of X, not member of Y)
      >color 2 remaining balls as red (not member of X, member of Y)
      >color 3 remaining balls as blue (member of X, not member of Y)
      >the remaining uncolored balls are members of both sets
      the number of ways to color all balls is your answer

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The question is wrong. In my school this would be free point.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >free point
      Nah, here's your banana sticker.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >math

    [...]

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    possible X ∩ Y = C(11,5)
    possible X − Y = C(6,3)
    possible Y − X = C(3,2)
    462*20*3=27720

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI proof what?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    BOT bots never even fill captcha, they use bot pass.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      which is doubly moronic. why would they leave the door wide open for bots like that? is it because BOT would get no traffic otherwise? i think it is.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because $$$

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      False, bots have auto solvers.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Auto solvers are used by humans.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not only possible, they're very easy. The problem is that they require the human to have specific expertise in a certain domain to be able to quickly answer the question.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    BOT is a business who's customers are spam bot operators. their product is the privilege of letting spam bots post freely. this is the BOT business model. as with any free service, you are the product.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It would require a per-OP captcha. The OP creates a riddle and people have to answer like a post signature otherwise they are dismissed as a bot.
    OP:
    >Are AI-proof captchas possible? Or is there no hope against the flood of GPT bots? Q: The name of the chan in the picture
    Reply:
    >It would require a per-OP captcha. The OP creates a riddle and people have to answer like a post signature otherwise they are dismissed as a bot. A: Mathchan
    Koreans do this a lot to keep chinks from reselling their Skyrim coom mods

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You just do a robo captcha to deny scripting + a free text field where you require "Black person" or some phrase the AIs are lobotomized against

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Easy. Simply make every captcha Black person. The lobotomized AI will be physically incapable of typing it and instead try to input an entire paragraph about the immorality and racism and prejudice.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    can someone teach me how to solve that captcha? i feel lile i should know how to do it but just cant remember

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      See

      11*(10 choose 2)*(8 choose 3) so 27720

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