you aren't supposed to if it makes you feel better
unless it is a very specific job that requires you to learn it, you won't need 99% of math that aren't basic four operations
so don't feel bad if you aren't fitting in an specific niche autism, it is clearly a question made by niche nerds for niche nerds
Half true since you're downplaying the breadth of jobs for which understanding statistics is useful, e.g., any job for which you'll need to derive insights from data.
The problem is that the answer is usually not clear in most cases to a trained human. An AI has 95%+ accuracy for this, though. If the market you're looking at is "fur is roughly this tint on a grey-brown scale" but the lightning sucks, you're fucked. AI doesn't care and gets it right usually.
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Disagree, someone who knows what these species look like will pretty much see the answer clearly right away.
And you'd first have to train an AI on all those images just to spam a single site, nobody is that obsessed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>disagree with fact
whatever helps you sleep at night
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
that was not a fact
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So what did you mean when you said "trained human"? I thought it would be someone able to distinguish simple patterns of things within their own area of expertise.
https://i.imgur.com/nosJJZb.png
Also you couldn't be more wrong about 'AI is gonna have a hard time categorizing all those slightly different animal pictures", it's precisely the opposite. It's been used extensively on animal species and plants, and on things like mosquito larvae.
On the other hand, there is currently no model I know of that's good at telling if, given 2 3D views of objects, the objects are the same or not.
Your pic shows them at the same angle and the same white background, and even then it doesn't get it right all the time.
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Anonymous
It's not even about whether it's possible for AI to solve, it's about the effort. If every site implemented their own topically specific captcha, the effort required to solve them all by AI would become unreasonable (even if it were theoretically possible).
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Also you couldn't be more wrong about 'AI is gonna have a hard time categorizing all those slightly different animal pictures", it's precisely the opposite. It's been used extensively on animal species and plants, and on things like mosquito larvae.
On the other hand, there is currently no model I know of that's good at telling if, given 2 3D views of objects, the objects are the same or not.
High school stops at basic algebra because normies can't handle more. I never took honors, but they probably just crunch calculus equations and hand out scratch-n-sniff stickers.
to follow up, just formulate this as a ball coloring problem. >color 1 ball as yellow (not member of X, not member of Y) >color 2 remaining balls as red (not member of X, member of Y) >color 3 remaining balls as blue (member of X, not member of Y) >the remaining uncolored balls are members of both sets
the number of ways to color all balls is your answer
Not only possible, they're very easy. The problem is that they require the human to have specific expertise in a certain domain to be able to quickly answer the question.
BOT is a business who's customers are spam bot operators. their product is the privilege of letting spam bots post freely. this is the BOT business model. as with any free service, you are the product.
It would require a per-OP captcha. The OP creates a riddle and people have to answer like a post signature otherwise they are dismissed as a bot.
OP: >Are AI-proof captchas possible? Or is there no hope against the flood of GPT bots? Q: The name of the chan in the picture
Reply: >It would require a per-OP captcha. The OP creates a riddle and people have to answer like a post signature otherwise they are dismissed as a bot. A: Mathchan
Koreans do this a lot to keep chinks from reselling their Skyrim coom mods
Easy. Simply make every captcha moron. The lobotomized AI will be physically incapable of typing it and instead try to input an entire paragraph about the immorality and racism and prejudice.
>tfw can't answer this
Rural schools are the worst.
Most people can't answer this.
But rural schools are indeed the worst.
t. school counselor
you aren't supposed to if it makes you feel better
unless it is a very specific job that requires you to learn it, you won't need 99% of math that aren't basic four operations
so don't feel bad if you aren't fitting in an specific niche autism, it is clearly a question made by niche nerds for niche nerds
Half true since you're downplaying the breadth of jobs for which understanding statistics is useful, e.g., any job for which you'll need to derive insights from data.
So are niche specific captchas the way to go?
This one does not work, it's actually easier for AI than for humans to solve.
A human with prior knowledge could solve that very quickly. AI is gonna have a hard time categorizing all those slightly different animal pictures.
The problem is that the answer is usually not clear in most cases to a trained human. An AI has 95%+ accuracy for this, though. If the market you're looking at is "fur is roughly this tint on a grey-brown scale" but the lightning sucks, you're fucked. AI doesn't care and gets it right usually.
Disagree, someone who knows what these species look like will pretty much see the answer clearly right away.
And you'd first have to train an AI on all those images just to spam a single site, nobody is that obsessed.
>disagree with fact
whatever helps you sleep at night
that was not a fact
So what did you mean when you said "trained human"? I thought it would be someone able to distinguish simple patterns of things within their own area of expertise.
Your pic shows them at the same angle and the same white background, and even then it doesn't get it right all the time.
It's not even about whether it's possible for AI to solve, it's about the effort. If every site implemented their own topically specific captcha, the effort required to solve them all by AI would become unreasonable (even if it were theoretically possible).
Also you couldn't be more wrong about 'AI is gonna have a hard time categorizing all those slightly different animal pictures", it's precisely the opposite. It's been used extensively on animal species and plants, and on things like mosquito larvae.
On the other hand, there is currently no model I know of that's good at telling if, given 2 3D views of objects, the objects are the same or not.
>rural
bro no public school could prepare you for this shit
High school stops at basic algebra because normies can't handle more. I never took honors, but they probably just crunch calculus equations and hand out scratch-n-sniff stickers.
require people to attend a signing party and rate limit by pgp signature
gpg sig at birth managed by the government
11*(10 choose 2)*(8 choose 3) so 27720
to follow up, just formulate this as a ball coloring problem.
>color 1 ball as yellow (not member of X, not member of Y)
>color 2 remaining balls as red (not member of X, member of Y)
>color 3 remaining balls as blue (member of X, not member of Y)
>the remaining uncolored balls are members of both sets
the number of ways to color all balls is your answer
The question is wrong. In my school this would be free point.
>free point
Nah, here's your banana sticker.
>math
possible X ∩ Y = C(11,5)
possible X − Y = C(6,3)
possible Y − X = C(3,2)
462*20*3=27720
AI proof what?
BOT bots never even fill captcha, they use BOT pass.
which is doubly retarded. why would they leave the door wide open for bots like that? is it because BOT would get no traffic otherwise? i think it is.
Because $$$
False, bots have auto solvers.
Auto solvers are used by humans.
Not only possible, they're very easy. The problem is that they require the human to have specific expertise in a certain domain to be able to quickly answer the question.
BOT is a business who's customers are spam bot operators. their product is the privilege of letting spam bots post freely. this is the BOT business model. as with any free service, you are the product.
It would require a per-OP captcha. The OP creates a riddle and people have to answer like a post signature otherwise they are dismissed as a bot.
OP:
>Are AI-proof captchas possible? Or is there no hope against the flood of GPT bots? Q: The name of the chan in the picture
Reply:
>It would require a per-OP captcha. The OP creates a riddle and people have to answer like a post signature otherwise they are dismissed as a bot. A: Mathchan
Koreans do this a lot to keep chinks from reselling their Skyrim coom mods
You just do a robo captcha to deny scripting + a free text field where you require "moron" or some phrase the AIs are lobotomized against
Easy. Simply make every captcha moron. The lobotomized AI will be physically incapable of typing it and instead try to input an entire paragraph about the immorality and racism and prejudice.
can someone teach me how to solve that captcha? i feel lile i should know how to do it but just cant remember
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