Anti-AI artists should admit it's (mainly) about money.

Anti-AI artists should admit it's (mainly) about money. And I think most artists, truly, deep down, they know, but they are sorta embarrassed on saying that out loud, because it shows they are more worried with how will this affect them financially than worried with making art by the sake of making art.

And if you take the money out of the equation– let's suppose money is not an issue and everybody has their needs taken care. What reason there would be for one to not like this, or at the very least to be indifferent to it (like, you do you and I will do me)?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    pretty much. they were arrogantly pro-automation when it came to truck driving and other blue collar work but now that AI art is directly threatening them, they're suddenly anti-automation. I unironically hope all arrogant inkcels die of starvation

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Anti-AI codermonkeys should admit it's (mainly) about money. And I think most codemonkeys, truly, deep down, they know, but they are sorta embarrassed on saying that out loud, because it shows they are more worried with how will this affect them financially than worried with making art by the sake of making code.

    And if you take the money out of the equation– let's suppose money is not an issue and everybody has their needs taken care. What reason there would be for one to not like this, or at the very least to be indifferent to it (like, you do you and I will do me)?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a dev, literally nobody here is threatened by AI. if anything, we're using it to get shit done more quickly. the whole idea that devs are unironically threatened by AI is pure inkcel cope

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ArtChad status: Comms Full ; )
        Techtroon status:

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          US is firing people based on trendiness, EU has a huge hiring streak, though we probably won't take your diversity hires

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >codemonkeys resorting to making up fictional realities to cope now
            Sad!

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              When I asked for sources from an AI it did generste links, but none of them lead anywhere . You've gotten too enamored with a statistical toy

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Bing is connected to the net while ChatGPT isn't. Techjeets don't even understand the technology they're competing with.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                GPTs hsve been trained on internet data all day long, you'd think it could grasp what a link is. Except that it doesen't really comprehend anything in a similar way that tags on pornhub don't actually know anything

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >A chatgpt stan alleging making up fictional realities.
              Nice projection, hope it was a troll and you aren't actually that lacking in self-awareness.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >big tech culling diversity hires and scrum masters is a bad thing

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >i-it's j-just the d-diversity hires!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Lol. Like they're going to fire their diversity hires.

            https://i.imgur.com/jcoHQAd.png

            Anti-AI artists should admit it's (mainly) about money. And I think most artists, truly, deep down, they know, but they are sorta embarrassed on saying that out loud, because it shows they are more worried with how will this affect them financially than worried with making art by the sake of making art.

            And if you take the money out of the equation– let's suppose money is not an issue and everybody has their needs taken care. What reason there would be for one to not like this, or at the very least to be indifferent to it (like, you do you and I will do me)?

            >it's (mainly) about money
            No shit, moron. It's all about money.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Diversity hires are always the first to go when money becomes more important than image

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Proofs? Do you have any proofs of that ever happening? Diversity hires are more valuable than codemonkeys.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Codemonkeys are offshored and not on the company's list. They're shafted day in day out. Of course there's no way of proving anything I say is true, i'm just a supposed real user on an imageboard.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://fortune.com/2022/11/16/tech-layoffs-human-resources-diversity-dei-teams/
                two seconds of searching you stupid motherfricker

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          now post a chat of how many people were hired during the last few years. some big tech companies doubled their employee count over the last 5 years

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like a lot of bloat. Luckily we have ChadGPT now so we can cull the superfluous hanger ons such as yourself.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Dad owns trucking company
      >be both artist and coder
      Lol why must modern life rape me...

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Has making art never really been about money? Practically nobody makes a living out of it in the first place, much less after SD. That's excluding furry artists of course, some of which are raking more than 60k/mo right now on patreon.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's more than that, the guild is losing the legacy of status and mystique that drew them to the field then telling us that there is no soul in superior content not certified by them.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >animu shit is dying
    good

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >making art by the sake of making art.
    are you moronic or just 12 years old? of course artists want to make money

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >autismo doesn't understand the point of art
      Yes anon people make art just for the sake of making art. They suffer and die poor and are then forgotten forever, such is the fate of 99.9% of all artists in human history. 0.1% painted churches and nobles portraits, those are the famous ones

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Doing work just for the sake of work.
        Black person if this was a post-scarcity commie world you'd make sense. But this is a capitalist world with limited resources and people has to make ends meet however possible. Money is necessary for survival. The only people who can really do "art for art's sake" and thrive are only those whom have already reached the top (basically anyone that is well-off).

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I make art just for fun. I like the process.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So you don't understand why art even exists. Should have just said so.

            That's cool and all but if you want to get good at art you'll have to spend a lot of time both learning and doing. Not something wagies have much of. Making art as your labor of choice is one way of getting good with the craft.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So you don't understand why art even exists. Should have just said so.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >0.1% painted churches and nobles portraits, those are the famous ones
        That's not true, being a painter was a trade, the paint was very expensive.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They should offer you a cut of whatever down the line is made from that - even other models, and you should have the right to refuse it. I realise this can make some funny circumstances
    >hey, we trained a 1 trillion model on the work of thousands of artists,- do you want your data to be used in this way? We'll cut you in for 0.1% of the proceeds of the
    >nah lol
    >are you sure?
    >no, frick off and retrain it. Not my problem.
    But it's fair. This is an intrusion into their property rights, money or not. I don't work in law or art, although I have a law degree, and I just can't get past this. When I train an embed, I'm using other people's art. It doesn't seem to me to fit in with existing legislation to allow people to sell the product of that.

    Unfortunately, legal systems take time to adapt, and it's a question of how much damage and
    >well, we already do this now, you're too late, think of muh jobs
    the fast changing tech industry will be able to do before then. It's already normal for companies you know nothing about to swap your personal data - things that anons can use to track you down and frick your niece - like baseball cards, no matter how GDPR and other legislation is implemented.

    It's like the ESL third worlders lurking every ai thread, asking how they can make money and sharing their sloppy prompts (or in the case of the chatbot threads, their scat and mutilation fics for some reason), but with silicon valley companies. How far can they go before the mods just consider it normal on our blue board world?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ai "art" is committing fraud

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Anime
    >Manga
    >Anime Art Commission
    The former two are more passionates compared to the third ones.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Most people don't like others taking credit for their work, for example an artist has a very distinct style and someone trains on it, posts a bunch of pictures, and it doesn't say that they are following that artist style.
    It was even a thing before the AI. (Not an artist and I have a potato so no AI either)

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    God you guys are pathetic. AI art has not really managed to do anything to artists yet: the best you can point to is one-off examples of things where people used AI art, but there is no evidence that AI is taking over anyone's job yet. Frankly, for the time being, it'd be surprising: stable diffusion is still quite limited, and even GPT-4. We're nowhere near AGI yet. The scary part is the rate of progress, but people panic too soon because it's not even clear how much progress it'll take to legitimately replace people. They just see the rate of progress and get terrified.
    What AI will do for now is assist people, because it is still not capable of acting as an agent on it's own. Will this take people's jobs at a measurable rate? Remains to be seen, but I doubt it for now. If adding more layers and parameters really just keeps working all the way to true AGI or something close enough to where it doesn't matter, then well, we'll have to figure out what that means.
    But for today? Just have fun, everything could be gone tomorrow anyways, it doesn't take an AI apocalypse, a cosmic event could wipe us all out in an instant and nobody would ever know anyways. If you must be a doomer, then take advantage of what you can today and build savings. The last thing you'll ever regret is that you didn't spend more time on BOT doomerposting.

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