Ai wins photography contest

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wow it's so cool how AIs will automate all of the creative and knowledge jobs leaving us with nothing except the fricking wage cage.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Make better photography than an AI. Draw better than an AI. It's not that hard. Just don't draw bottom of the barrel abstract concept art or anime coom. The AI suits its pants generating anything else.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is those take time to get good at. How many people do you think will want to practice art in the world where they can just proompt better stuff in minutes?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why people commission portraits made with traditional materials on canvas if you can just make a photo and print it out?
          There would be still market for man-made art just because some people want something more luxurious than a picture generated in 10 secs.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Most art moved to digital and fictional stuff that you cannot take a picture of. Nobody really learns to be a portraitist anymore, meaning you only have older ones that already have decades of experience and finding work is difficult for anyone else. You don't have to be black and white about it. Is there literally going to be 0 traditional artists left in the world tomorrow, but why would a young person of today or a year from now learn art?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >We don't need to fear AI if we just run faster on the treadmill it creates.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ER240pG.jpg

        [...]
        [...]

        Majority of artists affected by AI art are commission artists on the internet drawing smut for several dozen to hundreds of $ a piece.
        The rest are professional artists that will be using AI to speed up their work pipeline and go through far more iterations and variants before they decide on their final design. Until an AI can take over most of the creative pipeline of game/anime/movie development, real people are still needed.

        And again, why the frick are you morons treating "artists" as something special? They make up a minuscule % of jobs and 99% didn't even care about artists and "human art" until AI started walking over artists' toes.
        You morons feel like tw*tter homosexuals who whine about AI just to virtue signal or something.

        Yeah, true. AI can't make anything better than an animu girl showing her breasts. Of you feel intimidated by that bullshit, sorry, maybe you weren't good in the first place.

        *for now

        look at the progress is just the last six months, and project that out abother three months.
        wasn't it only three or four weeks ago that AI couldn't draw fingers or other little details?
        wasn't it just a few days ago that ChatGPT wasn't really accurate?
        look at what bing is doing - there is nothing left. wothin fice years TOPs the ovwrwhelming majority of online content will be both AI generated and INDISTINGUISHABLE from human content.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >look at what bing is doing - there is nothing left. wothin fice years TOPs the ovwrwhelming majority of online content will be both AI generated and INDISTINGUISHABLE from human content.
          Give me one objective reason why that's a bad thing.
          AI does NOT prevent people from drawing. If you stop drawing just because something or someone else can draw better and faster, then I feel no pity for you as it was never your actual interest or a hobby.
          Again, making art is something people (should) do to ENJOY not to earn money. You can earn money from it and some people will lose their income because of an AI, but they are not the first nor the last to have a rug pulled underneath them, e.g. painters that drew portraits on canvas before the invention of camera.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            In fact, the invention of camera even made artists experiment with their art more. Some artists started drawing realistic art than is very similar to photography (like that Ivan the Terrible killing his son painting), and others started drawing very abstract shit. Artists adapted. Why can't they do it again?
            The only thing I see for artists to do is adapt traditional mediums again and create a market for that sort of art.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Give me one objective reason why that's a bad thing.
            if you give everyone a nuke you give everyone a reason to NEED to see in all of your drawers at all times
            if you give everyone military AI, you give everyone a reason to want/need mandatory digital ID at all times

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Whatever you say, schizo.
              That has nothing to do with diffusion models and AI generated art.
              Call me once a basic Joe can run an AGI on their budget phone and it's capable of taking over the world's superpowers' nukes and other military installments in a few hours. Which is never and your ideas are utterly nonsensical.
              You should probably get off the internet and stop talking about shit you've no clue about how it actually works.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                when everything online is easily faked and AI generated, how can you trust a single thing? how can a bank trust that a human made that transaction?
                the only way is with mandatory idenfitication of all humans. all your AI will include fingerprints that link back to you so there are consequences of your generated content.

                call me a schizo but remember this post in fice years, ten years, however long it takes. it will happen and I warned you.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >when everything online is easily faked and AI generated, how can you trust a single thing? how can a bank trust that a human made that transaction?
                While I see some possible issues stemming from AIs capable of perfectly mimicking speech and other stuff, which would allow it to verify itself through phone to your bank and stuff, there are far too many hopes and requirements for that to actually work that I don't see such issues being a genuine issues for 99% of people.
                Let's say I want to steal your bank account.
                I'd need a long enough recording of your voice to synthesize it, at least a few signatures to fake yours, your account number and password and/or your phone, ID stuff (e.g. your date of birth, ID number), most likely some sort of 2FA token, access to your email etc.
                There are far, far too many things that will prevent someone abusing AI to get to gain access to someone else's accounts and data for this to be feasible in 99% of cases.
                >the only way is with mandatory idenfitication of all humans. all your AI will include fingerprints that link back to you so there are consequences of your generated content.
                What the frick?

                Seriously, anon. Get off the internet and stop even thinking about AI. It's clear to me you're just another moron talking about stuff they don't understand.
                You just see AI as this "bad thing" that can do a lot of stuff you previously thought would be impossible so now you fear it and create these nonsensical issues because you don't understand it. Just like 99% of all other morons that speak against AI.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you will remember me, midwit

                ai is no more or less evil than a sword. but give every man a sword and you start to realise you can't fight them all. intentionally give everuone a sword, and you manufacture public consent for restrictions on swords.
                "i don't want to get stabbef, do you?"

                ban ai generated child porn, and then when thats all kosher, ban all ai under the guise of "you arent one of those ai child porn freaks are you?"
                we saw the same happen with guns and now AI because they are afraid.

                la li lu le lo
                you will remember me

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Drawings are not real

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Seriously, anon. Get off the internet and stop even thinking about AI. It's clear to me you're just another moron talking about stuff they don't understand.
                They already do this.

                >I used ElevenLabs AI for the voice synthesis. Ironically, they recently mentioned on their twitter that they have the ability to detect if a voice clip was generated with their service, and which user generated it, in order to ban users who "abuse" the service. They also just put the voice cloning feature behind a paywall for the same reason, so everything you generate is tied to your credit card info.

                https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5pIVVpoz5zk

                Given, he just copied the statements from that video, but that video is correct on all points so far. Every AI generated piece will have a fingerprint, associated with an account ID and credit card number = real life person. You will be able to track who is watching what, whose creations reach what people.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He saw this video

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Ironic how this video it;s self is a deep fake

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's not a deep fake, but a script read out by elevenlabs AI. According to MSG fans, it hits the tone the creators of those games had. And content wise, it's correct, all statements apply. Look what Disney and the copyright alliance are going for. They are going for total censorship. I get that you feel uncomfortable, but the facts are facts and denial doesn't help anyone.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Seriously, anon. Get off the internet and stop even thinking about AI. It's clear to me you're just another moron talking about stuff they don't understand.
                They already do this.

                >I used ElevenLabs AI for the voice synthesis. Ironically, they recently mentioned on their twitter that they have the ability to detect if a voice clip was generated with their service, and which user generated it, in order to ban users who "abuse" the service. They also just put the voice cloning feature behind a paywall for the same reason, so everything you generate is tied to your credit card info.

                https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5pIVVpoz5zk

                Given, he just copied the statements from that video, but that video is correct on all points so far. Every AI generated piece will have a fingerprint, associated with an account ID and credit card number = real life person. You will be able to track who is watching what, whose creations reach what people.

                You're mentally ill morons.
                Your entire fear rests on corporation being able to connect your identity to what you generated through THEIR service?
                Are you actually insane?
                Did you know Google also scans your emails and has access to them? Or that they track your YT history and their other services to create a profile of you?
                Maybe don't use their services if you don't want to be tracked?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You're mentally ill morons.
                Ad hominem, dismissed.

                >Your entire fear rests on corporation being able to connect your identity to what you generated through THEIR service?
                Strawman, that was not the core of the argument. The core was censorship and tracking, to change public opinion and limit expressions of AI works that go against the narrative/corporate interest.

                >Are you actually insane?
                I am not, ad hominem, dismissed.

                >Did you know Google also scans your emails and has access to them? Or that they track your YT history and their other services to create a profile of you?
                I do know that, that's why I don't use them.

                >Maybe don't use their services if you don't want to be tracked?
                See above, that's what I am doing. The thing about AI is that they are new technologies (at least available to the public) and that they offer unlimited potential for freedom of expression, especially artistically, but also for architecture, gamedev and political bloggers etc. If this potential is limited by political censorship and corporate interest, then it harms our freedom massively. Your own examples show that this happened in the past. You are insulting critics because this happened before, while at the same calling us mentally ill and insane? What a troll.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You are manufacturing consent with a video that aligns with your views and not with what the original writers wrote.
                I can understand if you want to meme all day with your le randum deepfaks humor but your narrative is actually pretty off.
                Any signature used by a human to verify if they are human can easily be copied by a bot even now much less later by AI.
                Disney has always been a plagiarism blight but it's silly to compare Disney shills to some secret society that runs the planet. Not to mention as this entire thing is unfolding and you are missing people calling for the outright ban on GPT and deep fakes.
                It's still too early in the game to be calling the winner and being fed by goyslop misinfo on this site ( a site full of shills and bots post 2016) is just stupidly ironic.
                >According to MSG fans
                It's MGS.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You are manufacturing consent with a video that aligns with your views and not with what the original writers wrote.
                I am not manufacturing anything, I am pointing out that the anon above has his points from that video and that the points are nonetheless correct. Disney has already started doing exactly that, so has elevenlabsAI.

                >I can understand if you want to meme all day with your le randum deepfaks humor but your narrative is actually pretty off.
                I have no fricking idea what you are rambling on about, mate.

                >Any signature used by a human to verify if they are human can easily be copied by a bot even now much less later by AI.
                Depends on the authentication system, but yes. So what?

                >Disney has always been a plagiarism blight but it's silly to compare Disney shills to some secret society that runs the planet. Not to mention as this entire thing is unfolding and you are missing people calling for the outright ban on GPT and deep fakes.
                Why is it silly? The amount of sickening control Disney tries to exert is politically relevant when it comes to AI. They want to neuter this tech before it can blossom. I am not missing anything, I was merely pointing out the less extreme developments, but yes there are calls for bans. The bans would be for the public, corporations would still use it with their own data and have the advantage. Also Disney is not the only actor, the copyright alliance and various governmental bodies such as the EU are trying to go hard on AI tech.

                >It's still too early in the game to be calling the winner and being fed by goyslop misinfo on this site ( a site full of shills and bots post 2016) is just stupidly ironic.
                Your whole ductus reeks of online degeneration. Try talking in a normal language without using meme words every two seconds. You don't even read what I write, you just smear your blueprint thinking on everything other people say so you can squeeze shit into nice premade molds.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You're mentally ill morons.
                Ad hominem, dismissed.

                >Your entire fear rests on corporation being able to connect your identity to what you generated through THEIR service?
                Strawman, that was not the core of the argument. The core was censorship and tracking, to change public opinion and limit expressions of AI works that go against the narrative/corporate interest.

                >Are you actually insane?
                I am not, ad hominem, dismissed.

                >Did you know Google also scans your emails and has access to them? Or that they track your YT history and their other services to create a profile of you?
                I do know that, that's why I don't use them.

                >Maybe don't use their services if you don't want to be tracked?
                See above, that's what I am doing. The thing about AI is that they are new technologies (at least available to the public) and that they offer unlimited potential for freedom of expression, especially artistically, but also for architecture, gamedev and political bloggers etc. If this potential is limited by political censorship and corporate interest, then it harms our freedom massively. Your own examples show that this happened in the past. You are insulting critics because this happened before, while at the same calling us mentally ill and insane? What a troll.

                >Double spacing
                >meme posting
                >goyslop disinfo tier posts
                Get out shill. You should try to be less obvious next time.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >readable format
                >referring to sources
                >hard facts already proven by sources
                Try harder, troll. Try speaking English first.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >My source is a parody of a video game cutscene.
                If you were serious I would be telling you to come back when you are 18 so you can legally post here.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ignores the publications from Disney and the copyright alliance, as well as the EU
                No.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      nobody wants to accept that socialism is the only thing which solves this problem

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Specifically of the national variety

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          unironically
          that's why israelites fought tooth and nail to destroy it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ooooooooiiiii STOP !!"" YOU ARE BEING BASED!!! CALL THE POLICE!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is those take time to get good at. How many people do you think will want to practice art in the world where they can just proompt better stuff in minutes?

      Most art moved to digital and fictional stuff that you cannot take a picture of. Nobody really learns to be a portraitist anymore, meaning you only have older ones that already have decades of experience and finding work is difficult for anyone else. You don't have to be black and white about it. Is there literally going to be 0 traditional artists left in the world tomorrow, but why would a young person of today or a year from now learn art?

      Majority of artists affected by AI art are commission artists on the internet drawing smut for several dozen to hundreds of $ a piece.
      The rest are professional artists that will be using AI to speed up their work pipeline and go through far more iterations and variants before they decide on their final design. Until an AI can take over most of the creative pipeline of game/anime/movie development, real people are still needed.

      And again, why the frick are you morons treating "artists" as something special? They make up a minuscule % of jobs and 99% didn't even care about artists and "human art" until AI started walking over artists' toes.
      You morons feel like tw*tter homosexuals who whine about AI just to virtue signal or something.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, true. AI can't make anything better than an animu girl showing her breasts. Of you feel intimidated by that bullshit, sorry, maybe you weren't good in the first place.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, AI can already do pretty impressive stuff, but it's still just not there yet nor at the convenience level where your grandma could generate whatever she wants and easily modify it. It will get there at one point.
          However, I've no pity for "artists" who learn to draw just to earn money.
          If your only reason to pick up a brush was to sell your works then you're not an artist worthy of actually preserving as you lack any personal interest and passion in the craft.
          And if you do love making art, AI shouldn't dissuade you from enjoying it. Making art can be a source of income, but it should also be one's hobby and something that allows people to express themselves.
          The idea that AI will somehow prevent people from being creative and artistic is utterly nonsensical.
          Yes, there might be fewer jobs for artists and less people being willing to fork over their money and wait for the artist to complete the commission (which can take days or weeks), but so what?

          tl;dr If you cry for "artists" losing their source of income, did you also cry for painters that were replaced by photographers? Don't give me the bullcrap that (most of) those painters just became photographers because they definitely did not.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Majority of artists affected by AI art are commission artists on the internet drawing smut for several dozen to hundreds of $ a piece.
        Even this is false. The reason why people comission shit from artists is not because cheaper alternatives aren't available, it's because they want to see that artists' take on it. Programmers are way more unsafe than artists.

        Artists truly are moronic, the meme is accurate.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >The reason why people comission shit from artists is not because cheaper alternatives aren't available, it's because they want to see that artists' take on it.
          lol
          lmao
          Most people that pay for (lewd) art and commissions mostly care about what they want. It's a service.
          You're completely delusional if you think that large majority of those people are some simps that just want to give away their money to their favourite artist.
          They simply like their style. If they could get exactly what they want in the same, similar, better or different style they would not put in the commission, fork off a lot of money, and then wait for days or more than a week to get their commission back. Especially when they could get multiple variants and even animations, instead of just a static image, for disproportionally cheaper and in less than a day or two, depending on what kind of HW the AI is using.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          people comission shit from artists ... because they want to see that artists' take on it
          wtf, you do know there's even a word for this crap: "on model"
          bad artists can't draw on model and add moronic stylization to hide their lack of skill
          good artists can reproduce the original style and those are the most popular by far
          AI is almost strictly onmodel especially if you have embeddings or a lora. not to mention you can vary as much as you want

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if getting artists to seethe like this is actually productive
    their interests are aligned with a number of major corpos and 'grassroots' support is all those corpos need to successfully push further extensions of IP law without causing any public backlash

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What should we do instead? Not rub it on their faces?

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    look at those artefacts, how can this image win a contest when it looks like it was made in 2001

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >it looks like it was made in 2001
      Vgh

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Its a good pic.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >sun is directly up but shadows are cast diagonally
    >wave direction suddenly changes 90 degrees
    I guess the judges were AI too.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    mediocrity is out done by AI. the bar has been raised. no more lazy artists. the outstanding one will shine out more and the average will get filtered

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